Hollywood Learjet limousine liberals have been doing it for a long time. It’s a tradition. At movie, television, and music awards.
https://youtu.be/NxyGmyEby40
I haven’t watched the entire speech (won’t be watching the Oscars, either). My liberal FB friends are all bravo about it, though. I know more about what she spoke about from my newsfeed than what she was actually honored for. What was her award? Best actress for a movie?
Actually, never mind. I don’t really care. If she wasn’t in Rogue One or a superhero movie last year, I’m 100% certain I have not seen it.
As Dr. John reminds us, it’s unlikely that Trump was mocking Kovaleski’s disability but Kovaleski himself for supposedly backpedaling on an article he wrote. You’re a retard if you can’t see that it’s just a thing he does in imitating a flustered person. He gave fair and equal treatment to mocking Kovaleski the way he’s treated other opponents who don’t have a disability.
I heard Streep gave a great speech, though. What else did she say that was “spot on”?
Again, I haven’t watched the entire speech. And yes, I’m blogposting and opining, anyway. As a conservative who did not support Trump in either the primary or the general, I might even agree with some of Streep’s assumptions/presumptions/criticisms.
One of the reasons I quit caring about these music, television, and movie award shows is for the very reason that Hollywood learjet and limousine liberals use it as a soapbox for political opining and whining; bloviating and demagoguing.
I’m pretty sure I’d be annoyed as well if a Hollywood conservative, instead of simply accepting his award and thanking whomever, launched into a political tirade. Funny thing is, I don’t know if I would be or not because I can’t recall a Hollywood conservative doing that at an awards show honoring achievements in entertainment (not politics).
Predictably, Trump allowed his button to be pushed and he could not resist the urge to tweet a response. After all, our president-elect is on the thin-skinned side, himself.
On the flipside, it’s good that Trump is outspoken in standing up for himself. I believe one of the failings of the Bush Administration is in aggressively answering back against media attacks and allowing opponents to paint a distorted narrative instead of challenging them.
I do not believe Trump mocked Kovaleski’s disability. But if he did….I say so what? Yes, I said it. SO….WHAT.
It’s hitting below the belt. It’s classless. It’s unpresidential. It’s in poor taste. It’s unseemly and speaks poorly about the person who made the attack. But so what?
Is Kovaleski not a grown man, able to defend himself? Is he so emotionally and mentally fragile that he cannot weather bullying? Words? Why is his disability off limits? Why do we laugh when comedians do it? What happened to being treated equally? In other words, why can we make superficial attacks about Trump’s orange skin and hair yet not superficial attacks that draws attention to a physical disability? Why the condescension and the coddling? Why feel sorry for the disabled and not allow them to speak up and fight for themselves, as equals?
But then….Trump did not make fun of the disability. He mocked the reporter’s action of flustered backpedaling on an article Kovaleski had previously written.
A former fetus, the “wordsmith from nantucket” was born in Phoenix, Arizona in 1968. Adopted at birth, wordsmith grew up a military brat. He achieved his B.A. in English from the University of California, Los Angeles (graduating in the top 97% of his class), where he also competed rings for the UCLA mens gymnastics team. The events of 9/11 woke him from his political slumber and malaise. Currently a personal trainer and gymnastics coach.
The wordsmith has never been to Nantucket.
the useless wood and ca is a collection of snowflakes. a state that want be break form the US but in insolvent. have a friend who’s son-in-law is an entertainment attorney in La. his son-in-law has nothing good to say-between the covered up rehab, massive drug abuse and alcohol abuse, to physical violence that is overlooked by both local and CHOPs is overwhelming.
let us pause and realize that these individuals read a script with play lines and content not relevant to human life. The narcissistic behavior is applauded by the snowflakes and political loosers. Arthur Conon Doyle in several of his works under pen Sherlock Holmes, referred to snowflakes in 1886. Most of the characters were of poor education, low cerebral function and supported only by economic position or political position. Alcohol abuse was high and drug use was also high, no different from 1886 London to today’s wood. Did di nero ever recover of is he still crying. a snowflake, cuckold, whore dog and alcoholic .yes, robert has been is rebab more than once
I guess no one sees the hypocrisy of talking about Trump and the disability and then doing the same thing in talking about Trumps hair and orange skin. Is it only lefties that someone can’t talk about?
So, Meryl is claiming that, without illegals no movies could be made in Hollywood.
Weird.
I thought it was only “jobs Americans wouldn’t do,” that they took.
A UNION job, in a closed shop at high pay and NO AMERICAN CITIZENS would do any of them?
Sad.
And probably a lie by her.
She was most likely conflating illegals with all Americans, legal or not.
Because, to her, they are all the same.
@Nanny G:
But, that’s what she said. That interprets, as you said, that illegals are doing all the work for making movies. So that’s why movies have gone to crap.
Phooie on the golden globes their no diffrent then the oscars the awards only go to movies with leftists propeganda in them so who gives darn about some stupid awards shaped like globes or little bald men
@RedTeam:
have a friend who’s son-in-law is an entertainment attorney in La. the illegals work the scum jobs in the studios. every been to a movie lot? it is an eye opener
Meryl Streep publicly stated what she truly believes, far more eloquently than the subject of her observations has ever publicly stated anything. Good for her.
You know Curt, when I first looked at the of title Dr John’s defending Trump of mocking Kovaleski, I instantly knew it was a Dr John screed as the very title reeked with Trump butt suck up. It appears you too have acquired a a taste for that aroma.
While the video editing a cascading hand tic of Trump doesn’t remotely compare to his mocking of the reporter, that’s still quite an aside. Trump has been a promoter of violence his entire campaign. He has an indisputable record as a profound bully on most any front. He has always exploited the weak and vulnerable either for profit, for his own perverted self gratification of sexually assaulting unsuspecting women simply because of his “elite” or “superstar” status, or belittling them in public because they crossed him or disagreed with him.
Look Curt, this isn’t an ideological issue. We had 2 profoundly flawed and dishonest candidates running. It doesn’t take an Eisenstein to deduce that naturally leaves us with a profoundly flawed and dishonest winner.
Man up and get your head out of his ass.
@Ajay42302:
Did you even look at who the author is before you comment?
Talk about getting your head out of your ass…
Sheesh
Word Did you write this?
I’ve grown weary of the back and forth at F.A. Minds are set and won’t be changed.
Mata, Aye Chi and even Aqua are long gone.and sorely missed
IMO You remain as THE LONE respected voice of wisdom and reason.at this outpost.
BTW Thought Streep’s speech was needed. Trump took the bait and tweeted back she’s “underrated.” LOL
Streep made fun of Martial Arts, as if they are artless.
Had she never seen Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon?
Probably not.
Ever even go to one of her relatives or friends martial arts annual shows?
Again, probably not.
Probably never even noticed the term “ARTS” in martial arts.
Poor dummy showed how out-of-touch she is.
Hollywood’s bubble has trapped her.
And she doesn’t even see it.
@Nanny G: MMA Arts?? That’s laughable Nanny.
Now I do disagree with her on football–college at least.
Correction Our Tweeter-elect said Streep was overrated
National Championship coming up–Go Tigers
@Curt: Not sure how I misread that. Accordingly, my apologies.
@Nanny G:
Silly. Liberals don’t use illegal immigrants in high paying, union jobs. They mow grass, fill water glasses, paint walls, carry out the trash, and do it all for nearly nothing in pay. It’s why liberals want more of them. Plus, when no one is looking, they can have them VOTE for more liberals.
On a Facebook site infected with liberals, someone wrote that Streep was “accurate”. I questioned, what was accurate? Now, do you think for a second that anyone came forth with the factual basis for Streep to say, for instance, that “violence begets violence”? No. I was called names. Of course, that is how it always ends, when you ask a liberal to substantiate their position: they call names.
Trump is a bully? When? How? He faced 15 Republican candidates, 5 Democrats and 3 independents, in addition to the entire liberal media propaganda machine, and he won. Who’s the bully? Someone that faces off in a fair fight or those who attack, believing they have the protection of a corrupt media to protect them?
Trump incites violence? Trump’s rallies were violently attacked by paid liberal thugs and paid agitators, there to threaten, provoke and attack attendees. Has Trump been supporting Black Lives Matter, an organization, born of a lie, which promotes the murder of cops?
Racism? Anti-immigrant? Anti-Muslim? I have asked on these very pages for examples to support the visiting leftists’ accusations, but with nary a substantive reply. None. Nada. Zip.
Make no mistake… absolutely NONE… this is all about being sore losers of an election liberals were PROMISED; GUARANTEED they were going to win, continuing the liberal utopia which thrills liberal elitists but is catastrophic for the rest of America. The expectation was so high and the crashing let down so devastating that, after a few days of, “oh, this is bad and I am sad, but we will endure” to Russian hacking, illegitimate Presidency, racist, violent, bully, waaa, waaa, waaa, give me a coloring book. My God, what a disgustingly weak, whiny pack of subservient little bitches.
Who really knows how Trump will perform, in the long run, but already he has brought forth positive change, generating business and jobs. He has walked his walk. To his credit, Trump extended his hand in conciliatory friendship only to have it spit on, so f**k them, get out of the way, then.
Many can see what a gigantic failure Obama has been, but a lot of people have had this fact hidden from them. Well, that failure is about to be fully exposed and Obama’s legacy will be domestic policy failure, foreign policy failure, economic failure and leadership failure.
@Richard Wheeler:
Really? A brain dead liberal who has learned to read the lines of someone else who was smart enough to write them? Streep is another disconnected rich idiot (like DiCaprio) who is totally disconnected from the very people that made her wealthy. And she is no Bette Davis by any stretch of the imagination.
She’s not paid to voice her political opinion at an event where she was given an award for being paid to act, not bloviate.
Streep, and her ilk, are the very reason I have been to only three movies in the last 15 years.
So, Trump lies again about his mocking of the reporter while attacking Meryl Streep.
And his behaviour is excused by the regulars here.
Deplorable.
@PhillipMarlowe:
Trump mocked Kovaleski. I have doubts that he was mocking the disability. Even if he were- if it were me with the disability, I’d just shrug that one off. Sticks and stones, folks.
Trump has thin skin and can’t help but elevate Streep with a Twitter response. Was Kovaleski’s feelings hurt? Does he feel elevated by others rising to his defense and taking pity and drawing attention to his disability? Are those with disabilities beyond reproach?
And this is not to say Trump is right in his original remark about thousands of Muslims dancing in the streets of New Jersey (or whatever the original remark was- I now forget); nor that Kovaleski was out of line in clarifying/distancing himself from his article.
Streep said:
Are you kidding me? Kovaleski is a Pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter! He has more than enough wits in words to “fight back”. Trump’s verbal repertoire is short on ammo. Now if it were fisticuffs, than yeah, it may be an unfair fight. But c’mon- quit coddling a grown man and treat him with dignity instead of “poor him- he’s disabled”.
Yes, Richard and Ajay42302, I wrote this.
I still think Trump is trash. But I also think in all likelihood, his mocking of Kovaleski was more to do with his apparent wishy-washiness in backpedaling his story. It’s not just the hand gestures, but Trump’s facial expression and stammering that is not unique to his criticism of Kovaleski, but appears in footage of Trump mocking Cruz and others who do not have a physical disability.
@Wordsmith: #17
“Even if he were- if it were me with the disability, I’d just shrug that one off. Sticks and stones, folks.”
Well, Word, I am disabled, and if someone makes fun of me because I need a cane to walk, I am quite capable of reducing them to tears myself.
I don’t need some brainless liberal script kitty scoring feel-good points by defending me!
I find her whole attitude condescending and insulting. Much more than Pres+ Trumps remarks.
Time for her to trade her Learjet in on a Tearjet.
This:
Joe Concha at the Hill, linking to vids including one of Trump mocking himself in a similar vein:
@PhillipMarlowe: No, he didn’t lie and if you would ever open your eyes and read what those have researched the incident have shown, you could help yourself to appear less ignorant. One wonders why Streep was so silent when Obama made fun of the Special Olympics on national television. I guess liberals get to attack whomever they want, including Palin’s Downs Syndrome son.
@Politicians Profiles: Except Trump didn’t poke fun at the guy’s handicap.
A feminist hides behind her pudenda, and she sees solidarity in a handicapped person who hides behind their disability – just so they can make fun of the healthy…
nice people..
the kind that say “let them eat cake”
i wonder if she got her swim wings on and jumped in the flood channels to save the non existent homeless that she helped create?
no? you mean all she has to say is people in cities who live in filth, create huge homeless swaths, fund baby part selling, admit its ok to defecate in public, and more… are giving people who live with nature, have good manner, work hard to help others, and are LESS RACIST than city dwellers who might as well be on a space station…
yeah.. got it..
lack of respect for diversity means you are for diversity and not an arse but a hero.. not a zero.
i now have a long list of idiots i wont see any more in movies if i have to pay for them in some way…
@PhillipMarlowe: Gotta keep you outraged somehow, so you keep pulling the Democrat lever…
Hi Greg.
@Nathan Blue: Nathan, I’m not outraged. I don’t let Trump pull my chain.
But it is rather depressing to see the way you and Deplorable Bill defend him.
Sadly, Jesus’s words still ring true: The poor you will always have with you.
In this case, it is those with poor morals.
@PhillipMarlowe: If you view someone setting your lies straight as “defending” someone else, that is your prerogative. However, it doesn’t help the serious problem you have with ignorance.
@Wordsmith:
I’ll reiterate that the interpretation of Trump mocking the reporter is irrelevant. While Streep used Kovaleski as a premise, there are tons of other examples that can apply. As I said above, Trump has been a promoter of violence his entire campaign. He has an indisputable record as a profound bully on most any front. He has always exploited the weak and vulnerable either to protect his ego, for profit, or for his own perverted self gratification of sexually assaulting unsuspecting women simply because of his “elite” or “superstar” status.
If someone crosses or disagrees with Trump, he publicly mocks, embarrasses, humiliates, destroys, or uses whatever means available to retaliate. That’s Trump. That’s who he is. Streep’s speech was spot on and would have nailed Trump had Kovaleski never existed.
It isn’t if Kovaleski is a grown man and can defend himself. It’s more about an egomaniac con man who now has the ability (along with a track record) to exploit many who can’t.
But I do understand that our ideological make up differs and the so-called conservatives of today mindset of “I got mine” kinda dismisses those that can be exploited.
@Ajay42302: You are describing liberals, not Trump.
Thanks Word—As always a well documented response and I will review and study the appropriate videos.
In#17 You said “I still think Trump is trash–”
This, I believe, is a starting point in evaluating most all he does.
@Bill- Deplorable Me:
Obviously as a trained seal, your only objective is to interrupt with fins flapping together and chanting “ork ork ork” and then await a fish toss from your masters.
@Ajay42302: Obviously you never have an original thought conceived in your on mind. Only liberal talking points.
Donald Trump Told THR “Meryl Streep Is Excellent” in 2015 Interview
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-previously-told-thr-meryl-streep-was-one-two-actresses-he-liked-962880
How will the “deplorables” handle that?
@Ajay42302:
My focus of contention is about this. Everything else you said, I don’t really disagree with.
The only other point of annoyance I have on a related note is in Streep and Hollywood liberals constantly using the entertainment awards podium as a bully pulpit for political demagoguing. But that’s become to be expected and not surprising.
@Wordsmith: The question of course is what can be done with a dangerous con man now occupying The Presidency.
The media are the arms of Democracy. I believe that if he tries to silence the press, blame their conduct in an attempt to divert the American people from HIS conduct—–Watergate comes to mind
@PhillipMarlowe: Now she’s not. What’s so hard to figure out?
@Richard Wheeler:
Don’t worry. In 8 days he’ll be gone. He’s done a lot of damage, but he’ll be gone.
@Bill- Deplorable Me: “Touché”
@Bill- Deplorable Me: It certainly feels like Trump is already in. It’s gonna be a hell of a ride–hang on.
Mattis up today. Much easier sell than A.G. and Sec. State who face stiff opposition.
@Wordsmith:
From a business perspective, I don’t think it’s a good idea for entertainers to get political or for the filming or music industry to allow it at their award ceremonies.
Other than that, one has to wonder if you experienced this “annoyance” when Van Halen or Hank Williams Jr. expressed their displeasure in the President or when Rusty Wallace advocated voting out Dems at a NASCAR event over gun rights. Last I recall, many so-called conservatives got “all bravo about it”.
This seems to be one of the many double standards of today’s so-called conservatives. They seem to want to squash or belittle the free speech of folks like Springsteen or O’Donnell. Kid Rock or Clint Eastwood? Not so much.
@Ajay42302: It’s fair criticism.
I think for conservatives, we do enjoy celebrities who support our political views, in part, because it’s not as commonly heard and seen as it is for so many entertainers in music, tv, and movies, and the liberal arts. It’s a bit of a refresher from the stereotypical “Hollywood liberal”. Everyone likes it when someone they admire for something else turns out to also hold a similar belief system or ideology.
Certainly everyone is entitled to have a viewpoint and opinion; and you have a wise point in questioning the business smarts of sharing one’s political beliefs, publicly. Some people will hold that against an artist, should their views not align with their own ideology.
I can disagree with Springsteen’s political beliefs and still appreciate his music. I can still enjoy many movies and performances in spite of personal politics.
What I question is the appropriateness of the venue. If you go to your kids team banquet awards, do you go there expecting to hear the coach or an awards recipient bloviate and opine on world politics instead of thanking the soccer community, parents, and whatnot, related to the sport? It’s just annoying.
Now there may be instances where I might choose not to support or shop or frequent a restaurant, a merchandise, an artist as protest for a political opinion. But that is rare with me; and probably a reaction to something specific about that specific person or business that turned me off. But in general, I don’t care what a person’s political beliefs are, what kind of wild conspiracy theories they may believe in- if their product is good, if their food is yummy, I’ll buy it. No guilt that in doing so I’m supporting their political beliefs or that my money is going to be donated to their causes. I think that taking things that far leads to madness in the world. Political beliefs isn’t the only thing that defines us. And there are good and honorable people on both sides of the political aisle, including family members.
@Wordsmith: Well said. Many on the right are missing a lot of great movies and music.
Only 8 more days.
@Ajay42302:
Not true at all. Rusty Wallace wasn’t driving his race car when he made that statement. Nobody was paying for him to entertain the public. But I don’t care what Meryl Streep or Springsteen say, I never hear them because I know if I see them and their mouth is moving it ain’t something I’m going to listen to.
Heard that all the Soro’s troll contracts were ending at the end of January, so adios.
@Wordsmith:
hmmm…. I wonder. Let’s say you go to his concert and he comes out and gives a 30 minute political diatribe that is full of his usual BS, then he sings a song or two and starts another political rant. Do you really think you could ‘enjoy ‘ his music under those conditiions? I think not. That’s like watching the blacks put down our country at NFL games. I certainly can’t watch ballgames under those conditions, and I sure couldn’t listen to political diatribes such as Springsteen.
@Wordsmith: some of that you get forced into. If a lib spouting out, you have to listen. If it’s a conservative, they have to serve the libs anyhow. Especially if they’re gay and it’s against the business principle. but not the other way around. Dress designers anyone?
Rich, so you acknowledge Obama a dangerous con man.
@Wordsmith: I basically assume every entertainment person is a liberal. I find it an interesting surprise when a conservative comes out of the closet. Even when one makes a rational observation, I step back and think, “Damn. Did you hear THAT?”
Overall, I don’t care what they think. However, when one decides to stand up and denigrate large groups of people for the sake of the pats on the back from their fellow lemmings, I react accordingly.
But, I allow them to perform for my amusement. That’s what they’re there for.
@Redteam: There is no attempt to shut them up (as liberals actively pursue for those who say smarter things than they do). It is merely the open opinion that, if that is the best they can come up with as a “thought”, they SHOULD shut up.
@Redteam:Damn right You tell me—
How else could a gay muslim, born in Kenya, who never attended Columbia, is married to a transvestite “ape in heels” with whom he adopted two kids, possibly win The Presidency.–twice?
middle name Hussein
Be rational
@Richard Wheeler:
I’d say too many blacks, liberals,dimocrats, dead people and illegals voting. What else could it be?
For example, why didn’t you already know all those things. you’ve voted for him twice. Are you saying you don’t know anything about the person you vote for? How much military experience did he have?