This is a perfect example of what makes Obama such an ass

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Channeling both Alinsky and Machiavelli, Obama once again took to attacking private US citizens:

President Obama made a political and an economic case for solar energy Monday, telling an industry summit in Las Vegas that the explosive growth in solar power “has some big fossil fuel interests pretty nervous.”

“Now, it’s one thing if you’re consistent in being free market. It’s another thing when you’re free market until it’s solar that’s working and people want to buy and suddenly you’re not for it any more,” he said.

“When you start seeing massive lobbying efforts backed by fossil fuel interests, or conservative think tanks, or the Koch brothers pushing for new laws to roll back renewable energy standards, or to prevent new clean energy businesses from succeeding, that’s s problem,” Obama said, singling out industrialists Charles and David Koch for the first time in a climate speech.

“That’s not the American way. That’s not progress. That’s not innovation. That’s rent seeking. That’s standing in the way of progress,” Obama said

Charles Koch was having none of it. The Koch’s are not against clean energy- and pay attention- they work to end all corporate welfare:

But Koch, who is chairman and CEO of Koch Industries, said his opposition to subsidies for clean energy companies — or any other private businesses — doesn’t mean he’s against their success. Rolling back corporate welfare is one of the top issues Koch is pursuing with his richly funded political network.

Koch said his company also opposes subsidies for fossil fuels. And he portrayed Obama’s remarks as an unwarranted personal attack.

“I was absolutely flabbergasted that he could say so many things about us that were the opposite of the truth,” Koch said. “I was really dumbfounded. And I know he was there with Harry Reid. So we expect that with Harry Reid, but I didn’t expect that from the president.”

Koch said he has never met Obama. “The only thing I can think of is he was there with Harry Reid, and it was kind of a farewell gesture to help Harry Reid,” Koch added. “I can think of no other reason to single us out in his remarks in his efforts to promote his favorite forms of energy.”

Koch said his company is “opposed to renewable energy subsidies of all kinds — as we are all subsidies, whether they benefit or help us.”

“We are not trying to prevent new clean energy businesses from succeeding,” Koch continued. “Any business that’s economical, that can succeed in the marketplace, any form of energy, we’re all for. As a matter of fact, we’re investing in quite a number of them, ourselves — whether that’s ethanol, renewable fuel oil. … We’re investing a tremendous amount in research to make those more efficient and create higher-value products.”

Obama went on to prove he knows squat about free markets:

Obama continued: “I mean, think about this. Ordinarily, these are groups that tout themselves as champions of the free market. If you start talking to them about providing health care for folks who don’t have health insurance, they’re going crazy: ‘This is socialism, this is going to destroy America.’ But in this situation, they’re trying to undermine competition in the marketplace, and choke off consumer choice, and threaten an industry that’s churning out new jobs at a fast pace.”

Koch shot back: “I don’t know whether he knows what that phrase means, but ‘rent seeking,’ of course, is, in economic terms, is getting the government to rig the system in your favor. And that’s exactly what these so-called ‘renewable energy’ proponents are doing.”

Having singled out private citizens for ridicule and having those private citizens respond, the pissy Obama again took to another personal attack.

“I’m not sure whether to describe those comments as remarkably rich or utterly predictable,” Earnest said in response to a question from a POLITICO reporter. “It’s that when the president is advocating, for example, the end of tax subsidies that benefit oil and gas companies, that somebody who has made billions of dollars leading an oil and gas company, might not think very highly of that policy proposal.”

Uh, no

“We think it is hypocritical that Mr. Earnest attempted to tout the merits of a free-market system while promoting a new round of taxpayer-funded loan guarantees for the Administration’s politically friendly special interests. That said, Mr. Earnest’s statement about Koch is inaccurate. We have not lobbied for government subsidies or mandates, and we have lobbied against subsidies that directly benefit Koch. The fact is – and the White House should know this – we have fought against government boondoggles for decades because corporate welfare wastes resources, stifles innovation and has pushed our country to the brink of bankruptcy,” Ellender said in a statement.

“Now, if the question is, ‘Has Koch accepted subsidies?’ the answer is ‘Yes,’ and we’ve been clear about that. We participate in these types of programs where they already exist so that we can protect our 60,000 U.S.-based employees and not put ourselves at a competitive disadvantage. But to reiterate, we would eliminate all subsidies and mandates today if we could, including those we receive. ”

Earnest continued the ad hominem attacks;

“I guess. Yeah,” he said, remarking that Obama is not particularly surprised to see criticism of his policies from people like the “millionaires and billionaires” who “start to squeal.”

And I guess one billionaire special-interest benefactor chose to squeal to a POLITICO reporter,” Earnest said.

This is disgusting and intolerable, especially from the pantywaist President who started the whole thing.

As long as we’re talking hypocrisy, let’s throw Obama into the pile of dog doo. Despite the millions of dollars he’s made during his Presidency, despite his calling for “fairness” Obama still takes all the tax deductions he can to avoid paying his fair share. Obama paid only 18% on $600,000 income in 2013.

And what of the magnificant solar energy that Obama touts? Solyndra, which misrepresented facts to get loan guarantees from the government, failed gloriously at a $500 million cost to the US taxpayer. A list of 36 Obama solar energy failures can be found here. These “clean energy” projects are usually more about crony capitalism than not and are veiled in the costume of progress. Let us not forget that Obama not only called out and vilified Romney donors, he managed to persuade the IRS to audit them. Now he personally attacks industrialists who employ tens of thousands of people, pay millions in taxes and are big time philanthropists. They are America and liberals hate them for it. Obama does what he can to nurture this hatred of them.

About these personal attacks, Charles Koch said :

“It’s beneath the president, the dignity of the president, to be doing that.”

He would have a point except for one thing- Obama has no dignity. Every day he further demeans and soils the highest office in the land. Obama wouldn’t recognize dignity if it bit the head off his putter. He is an ass.

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Stock prices for coal companies have crashed by about 90% Peabody Coal is the US biggest their price has fallen from 75$ to 2 bucks in the last 4 years. Coal is a Victorian age fuel source and will be phased out. Solar prices have dropped 2/3s in the last 4 years.
Thanks Obama!

Why should a socailist/communist care about economics of a system that they seek to destroy and replace? why bother learning about what your going to end and you think wont be relevant?

What an utter ass we have in the White House. He lacks dignity and respect for his fellow Americans. But talk about Islamic terror, and watch him get serious and rail against hate speech and judging a group of people for the actions of a few, blah blah. blah. The man seems genuinely fired-up and angry and invigorated when attacking other Americans, but when it comes to people who want to kill Americans, he calms down and often appears on the verge of tears.

@Artfldgr:

Why should a socailist/communist care about economics of a system that they seek to destroy and replace? why bother learning about what your going to end and you think wont be relevant?

ditto re the SOB being a “Constitutional Scholar” – yeh right! — study it for its weak points and any flaws that can be exploited and subverted!

@JSW:

What an utter ass we have in the White House. He lacks dignity and respect for his fellow Americans.

That is because he is an Islamist infiltrator — all the scum suckers responsible for the rat getting even as far as the senate need to be ferreted out and eliminated from the political process — this includes around 80-90% of the demo-COMMUNIST party and about half the repub’s — esp all RINOs and the gopE!

According to International Business Times, businesses operated by Charles Koch have received around $195 million in government subsidies and tax credits.

There’s also this interesting comparison, cited in an article that opposes the continuation of alternative energy subsidies.

…between 1994 and 2009 the U.S. oil and gas industries received a cumulative $446.96 billion in subsidies, compared to just $5.93 billion given to renewables in those years.

Fossil fuel industries as a whole received comparatively enormous subsidies. Apparently subsidies and special tax breaks suddenly become a problem when they’re received by worrisome competing technologies.

Strong Future Forecast for Renewable Energy

Federal funds have been directed into new energy technologies because they’re going to be very important to the nation’s energy future.

@JSW: Remember in the old days (and probably today too), Russia used to pick certain people, raise them to become Americans (they would have areas that were set up like the USA) and then infiltrate. I would not be surprised if obama is a plant from a radical muslim country. His hatred of the United States is too apparent and as the days goes on, he hides it less and less.

@Enchanted:

I would not be surprised if obama is a plant from a radical muslim country. His hatred of the United States is too apparent and as the days goes on, he hides it less and less.

How about all that time he was supposed to be attending Columbia — where no one ever knew him or saw him there. — where are all the transcripts??

@Artfldgr: @JSW: @Budvarakbar: @Budvarakbar: @Enchanted: @Budvarakbar:

Yep, This is just another example of ME being right. Yup. This is just another case that Obama haters are the biggest racists, bigots, black-hating extremists in American History. No doubt about that. To you racist pig. You must hate the fact that you have had a black president on tv. That’s must be hell for you.

What Obama said was, “the number of people who die from gun-related incidents around this country dwarfs any deaths that happen through terrorism.”

That is unquestionably, irrefutably true. Very few deaths have occurred since 9/11 from terrorism. But the US has the world’s highest rate of gun violence. Even the people who defend the right to own guns should be able to recognize the need to reduce their USE by mentally unstable people.

I’ve said it before, as well as admitted it. That President Obama has done NOTHING to fix the already damaging relations on race in America, and it does NOT help that a poll came out saying that race relations in America are worst than they are in 1992. It’s sad, but what is REALLY more sad this the the people who ACTUALLY caused it is blaming the President, who is trying (but failing) to fix the racial divide. The Racists and Bigots on the Right.

As for the racial divide, who’s really to blame? I’ve said before and I’ll say it again. Blame Fox News, Glen Beck and conservative talk radio for the deterioration in race relation in America, yes they are 100% responsible for this “us versus them” mentality that has resurfaced in our body politics. From the day President Obama was elected President these three entity decided that they would stir up the white population, telling them that blacks, immigrants, and Hispanics, the Liberal cabal, a group of educated elitist whites from the north eastern states like New York and from California was trying to change their way of life, take their guns, take their women, take their Bible, prevent them from being as dominant as they have always been, in total reorganize America for the blacks through Barack Obama.

Why does Barack Obama hate White People? Because he doesn’t.
Ted Cruz was right that Obama inflamed racial tensions? Ted Cruz is an idiot.
Is Barack Obama destroying America? No.
Is Barack Obama a Muslim? No.
Is Barack Obama a terrorist? No.

Why does Barack Obama hate America? Because he doesn’t.
Is Barack Obama an Traitor? No.
Is Barack Obama a Communist? No (If you think so – it’s guaranteed that you can’t even define that term, same goes for ‘marxist’, ‘socialist’, et. al.).

Half of Americans Still can’t come to grips that the ni—r is still occupying YOUR White House, so you exaggerate and pretend things are different just to make yourself feel better, eh? Obama isn’t destroying the Constitution, but he is destroying any hopes you Obama hating, racist tea partiers of ever being politically relevant again. Obama being elected, lured you out of the woodwork and now the world can see you all as you really are.

@Questionman: people who defend the right to own guns should be able to recognize the need to reduce their USE by mentally unstable people.

People do, Questionman.
There are laws on the books that are ignored by supposedly overworked government employees.
We had quite the go-round about how a gov’t worker looked (lazily) at the wrong zip code and thus allowed a mass murderer to get a gun that should have been kept from him.
If you want to discuss how lazy gov’t workers are look at the VA mess in many states.
Laws don’t do a lick of good unless they are enforced.
Another great example is how gov’t employees are not enforcing border law.
More laws is NOT the answer.
Cull out every gov’t worker who cannot pull his/her work load.
Only give raises to those who figure out ways to increase their productivity.

And, by the way, since the 9-11-01 attacks on the USA there have been 26,766 more terrorist attacks that each killed AT LEAST one innocent person.
Many of those killed more than one innocent.

Wow. What a pile of stupid statements. Are you, like that gay reporter, going to turn violent next? Barack nobraina hates white people and the USA. You also apparently.

@Questionman: The only time I ever see Obama’s race being brought up–and the “n” word being used about him–is when liberals scream “You hate him because he’s black!” Of course there are folks who hate him because he’s black, just as there are folks who hate whites for being white, and who love Obama only because he’s black. But that has zero to do with this article and my comments you reacted so strangely to.

You folks are obsessed with race, and assume that since it’s all you guys think about, it’s all anyone thinks about. You addressed me as if I said he was a ‘n’ which I never did. You did what you folks always do, which is invent a fake racist, and then attack that racist and congratulate yourself for being so brave. You folks can’t stick to reality. Enjoy your bizarre race obsession, it’s only happening in your mind.

I can’t remember another president who singled out so many different individual Americans for criticism. Obama is the Great Divider.

I estimate that 99% of comments I’ve ever read or heard about Obama’s race have come from liberals. They THINK they are doing their cute little social justive warrior thing, but what they’re actually doing is showing their true mentality towards minorities.

I can criticize Obama all day because I’m criticizing his actions, beliefs–his character. This INFURIATES liberals because they obviously believe the ONLY way you can judge a black man is by his skin color–there’s just no way someone like me could seriously be judging him on his character, his beliefs, his actions.

The idea is just preposterous to liberals, who see a black man and see a man with black skin, period, end of discussion. Armed with this assurance they do their patronizing thing and go feel good about themselves, not realizing they’ve exposed their racism to all but those who are just like him, i.e., other liberals.

“Obama being elected, lured you out of the woodwork and now the world can see you all as you really are.”

Oh, the irony….

(The libs love using that word almost as much as they do ‘hypocrisy’)

@Mike: He seems to be enjoying himself when he attacks Americans. He seems like someone who really enjoyed Occupy Wall Street, so self-righteous, so full of fire as he attacks the rich and all that…before hopping in his limo and going back to his life of luxury, paid for by those idiots he attacks.

@JSW: And Christians worldwide. I never heard anyone in all my born days who claimed to be a Christian who savagely attacks, criticizes and defames Christians as much as he seems to enjoy doing.

@Questionman:

Ask any of them racists if they’d vote for Ben Carson

What else should one expect of a delusional sissy?

@Questionman: So many assertions, so little evidence to back them up. Typical.

Yeah, you folks put a high priority on evidence.

I do appreciate comedy, even when it’s unintentional.

@Questionman:

This is just another case that Obama haters are the biggest racists, bigots, black-hating extremists in American History

If Obama had a son… And if hate crimes occurred against white people… Gay black man killing a Caucasian male/female on live TV sounds about right.

Speaking of history, you need a lesson son. You’re fucking party are the biggest racist that America has known. Are you ignorant of history? Do you know nothing about Jim Crow laws and the KKK. Piss off. Get the fuck out of here.

And nigga what? Mother fucker is half white. Respect my brothers of color. Bitch ain’t no… You the racist. Wu Tang ain’t drafting him.

@Mike: That’s a good point. I’m an atheist so I have found his expression of his religion tinged by his cultural upbringing as a cultural Muslim. I do not and never have believed he was ever a Muslim, yet his Christianity doesn’t convince. I actually think his religious views are similar to my own, though I don’t share his hostility toward Christianity, nor his sympathy for Islam, which is very clear. He is not a Muslim, but to deny his sympathies are there is willfully ignorant–I mean, he wrote it.

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@Greg:

Federal funds have been directed into new energy technologies because they’re going to be very important to the nation’s energy future.

Fail

This list includes only those companies that received federal money from the Obama Administration’s Department of Energy and other agencies:

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Schneider Electric ($86 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)

When Obama travels around in a solar/wind powered airplane I’ll believe he is serious about energy and the environment. Until then it’s just political blather to impress his sycophants.

Solar and wind are high cost, real estate eating low efficiency sources of power. When the sun goes down and the wind isn’t blowing you are in the cold and dark. Energy must be stable and constant to make our country work.
Most people have no idea what it takes to power the infrastructure of this country.

@Questionman: Hey folks — lookie here – a newbie troll —

@Nanny G:

Cull out every gov’t worker who cannot pull his/her work load.
Only give raises to those who figure out ways to increase their productivity.

May I suggest a clarification/correction? — Replace “Only give raises to those… ” to “Only continue to employ those …”

@Mike:

I can’t remember another president who singled out so many different individual Americans for criticism. Obama is the Great Divider.

This SOB in turn needs to be singled out and smashed — this bastard and the demo-COMMUNIST Menshevik party’s personal attack on SINGLED out Americans started with Joe the Plumber — remember him? — just asked a simple yes/no question of the ‘Da SHITHEAD’ and the whole dam demo-COMMUNIST media complex came down on the poor guy .

@JSW:

The idea is just preposterous to liberals, who see a black man and see a man with black skin, period, end of discussion. Armed with this assurance they do their patronizing thing and go feel good about themselves, not realizing they’ve exposed their racism to all but those who are just like him, i.e., other liberals.

Actually imho you are giving the mentally disordered liberals way too much credit

@Mike:

@JSW: And Christians worldwide. I never heard anyone in all my born days who claimed to be a Christian who savagely attacks, criticizes and defames Christians as much as he seems to enjoy doing.

Uh – pardon me — but — I actually believe that you really do not still fall for that crap that the SOB is a Christian? how could anyone be that STUPID? – Any real Christian would have changed his name and made dam sure that it was absolutely CLEAR that he had utterly rejected the FALSE BS ‘religion’ of – so called ‘islam’ and never – ever had stepped foot in the FALSE scam church of the ‘rev wright’ — for God’s sake can’t you people see that the rev wright started a PHONY BS scam ‘church’ the RAT was a BLACK MUSLIM — wake the hell up!!

@Greg: According to International Business Times, businesses operated by Charles Koch have received around $195 million in government subsidies and tax credits.

you may not get this as your so narrow thinking but the Koch’s have been agasinst socialism communism for nearly 100 years, which is why they are such a target and they have been AGAINST corporate welfare for ages.

while a person like you may say from a high up pontificating seat that if they are against it, then why do they take it. and the reason is easy, you cant compete without it if everyone else is also getting it. its one thing to be against something, its another thing to pretend your a flagelist and hurt the thousands of people who work for you, need jobs, have to pay for school, braces, and on and on and on.

ie. they owe it to their workers, shareholders, etc… to accept such if such is on the table, and asking them to not take it, is putting the onus on the people getting things, not the people putting the large money they take from people in taxes and their picking winners and losers. tax bribery onus is on the elected theives and their bribery, not on others. but since the elected theives are democrat socialists trying to buy votes for the money, the left, like greg pretends to take the high ground morally – you know, the same peopel who will cut a babies face off to get a brain for sale…

“We’re headed toward a two-tiered society — a society that’s destroying opportunities for the disadvantaged and creating welfare for the rich,” Koch said. “Misguided policies are creating a permanent underclass, crippling our economy and corrupting the business community,” he said, “present company excepted of course.”

of course, because a comunist society is a two class society… and no middle class bridge to change the outcome of your life… just go ask an ex soviet immigre…

“Business leaders (must) recognize that their behavior is suicide, that it is suicide long term. To survive, long-term, they have to start opposing, rather than promoting, corporate welfare,” Koch

funny… but they are going to be hated for doing what the left actuall claims to want, but the left doesnt want to get rid of corporate welfare… it just wants to be able to apply it assymetrically to things like Solyndra, Enron, Tesla, CFL lamp money to china, high speed rails to no where, social programs out the ears that allow SBA 8A to endlessly make companies that invalidate equity before the law, Boeng, general motors, royal dutch shell, dow chemical, goldman sachs, google, walt disney, walmart, Abercrombie and Fitch, Bed Bath & Beyond

in case you didnt know greg, conservatives have hated the fascism called chrony capitalism that is technically unconstitutional, and they mostly also hate the idea that taxes are used to control behavior (sending politicians on the hunt for behavior problems they can use to grab more money for socialist programs).

minimal goverment would not have the money to give $13,174,075,797 to boeing
but socialist conscriptory government that seeks to pick winners that happen to be the largest oldest companies that the super wealthy have large stakes in is ok by greg and others!!

heck, warren buffet buys 100% of BNSF rail, and tom steyer and obama block keystone pipeline, sending berkshire hathaway stock from 100,000 PER SHARE to 200,000 PER SHARE in one year.

think mom and pops and small investors can afford shares that cost that much?
want to bet that steyers fortune went up HUGE thanks to people like greg sacrificing their lives and time to make him rich while beleiving the lies cause they like how they sound?

@Greg: Federal funds have been directed into new energy technologies because they’re going to be very important to the nation’s energy future.

actually they never will given what they cost if the state cant subsidize them. after all, my sisters has 5 houses, and she uses the subsidies to get solar so that she can be a lot wealthier… so in essenc, greg is making the rich richer as the tax money comes from rich and poor alike, and then goes to wealthy people who can then use it to get cheap power while the poor peoples power goes up and up thanks to policies.

too bad they cant even do back of the envelope math and see it wont work and is incredibley environmentally negative…

to make solar cells you need some VERY noxious stuff which is many many times more harmful and cancerous than what comes from fossil fuels…

and the companies need corporate welfare to survive the saudies who will pump oil and put them out of business AGAIN (as they did in the 1970s).

safe tungsten bulbs with laser treatement are as efficient as cfl, but you cant pay off chinese communists with poor peoples money in subsidies to put minute amounts of mercury throughout the americna residential and business areas if you use them… right?

and how about the big solar farms that incinerate endangered animals as they fly through the invisable beams and are attracted to the high points… we changed our power towers to save the california condor only to have them baked like a turkey in mid flight ready to eat by the time they hit the ground.

the enviros are going to love all their beautiful natural landscapes covered with windmills… beautiful long vistas with lots of windmills…

realize that you would need solar cells covering a space the size of rhode island to generate what one nuclear power plant can do… to replace the power of the US you would have to cover millions of miles of land and remove that sun from the plants which would convert it and the co2 to oxygen. ie. solar cells lower the conversion of CO2

but note this… when the tech was not subsidized, politicos and wealthy people could buy up the majority of it, and now that its subsidized their stocks are worth a huge fortune… not bad inside trading by the democrats and their very wealthy freinds like billionaires soros, steyer, buffet, gates and loads more…

@Greg: …between 1994 and 2009 the U.S. oil and gas industries received a cumulative $446.96 billion in subsidies, compared to just $5.93 billion given to renewables in those years.

yes greg.. but how much does the oil industry pay in taxes compared to the renewable industry? and why should those people in renewables get free money for technology that doesnt work, is not competitive, is more polluting and negative to the environment, but allows billionaires to make lots of money on failed companies?

i bet you dont know that the money collected in taxes in the oil industry exeeds the amout of profit they make per gallon of output?

The oil and natural gas industry is the second largest source of revenue to the federal government after the IRS. It also returns significant revenue from federal lands.

so they are not getting money without paying taxes like renewables
they are basically getting a tax return for the money they pay in taxes.

The Tax Foundation finds that governments have collected $1.95 trillion in taxes from the oil and natural gas industry since 1981. The total amount of taxes collected is roughly 40% more than the industry’s combined profits. Tax collections exceeded company profits in 23 of the 27 years surveyed.

you let us know how much tax money the renewables pay..

On top of direct industry taxes , consumers paid $1.1 trillion in excise and sales taxes on petroleum products from 1981 to 2008.

IHS Global Insight reports that in 2010, independents operating onshore alone generated $38.4 billion in corporate taxes, severance taxes, and federal royalty payments.

For every dollar the government spends administering the federal onshore oil and natural gas program, companies return $54.12 in royalties and leasing revenue to the American taxpayer.

In New Mexico, total tax and royalty payments from oil and natural gas production in 2013 totaled nearly $1.8 billion, approximately 32% of the state’s general fund. Oil and natural gas generated 97% of the revenues from state trust lands for schools.

In Utah, oil and natural gas development contributed $65 million from state lands, 61% of the total $106.4 million generated for the State Permanent School Fund.

In Wyoming, mineral development from the state’s trust lands contributed $219 million, 93% of the total in 2012, to the Common School Permanent Fund.

In North Dakota, the industry contributed $2.65 billion in state revenue. The school trust fund increased by $842.5 million from 2011 to 2013, with 75% of the funding, $628.75 million, from the industry and the majority of the remainder from investment income and capital gains.

In Colorado, oil royalties from school trust lands were at a record high in 2013, up 25% because of horizontal drilling in the Niobrara formation.

In Montana, over the last five years the oil and natural gas industry has contributed $160.6 million to the state’s trust lands fund, a quarter of the total. See our Western Oil & Gas Employs America portal for jobs and economic impact data from western exploration and production in every state, county and congressional district across the nation.

hey greg.. what would YOUR taxes be if you succed in killing that money and YOU have to replace the revenue from your work and taxes? how about it returning to a 90% rate like when i was young…

Following World War II tax increases, top marginal individual tax rates stayed near or above 90%, and the effective tax rate at 70% for the highest incomes (few paid the top rate), until 1964 when the top marginal tax rate was lowered to 70%. Kennedy explicitly called for a top rate of 65 percent, but added that it should be set at 70 percent if certain deductions weren’t phased out at the top of the income scale The top marginal tax rate was lowered to 50% in 1982 and eventually to 28% in 1988. It slowly increased to 39.6% in 2000, then was reduced to 35% for the period 2003 through 2012 Corporate tax rates were lowered from 48% to 46% in 1981 (PL 97-34), then to 34% in 1986 (PL 99-514), and increased to 35% in 1993.

i bet Greg would love paying 70% tax rate on his labor.. .

@Questionman:

your nuts questionman… completely racist bonkers projecting on others.
do you really think we care that a half white man you think is all black is president?

its not his communist upbringing, his hate of the US, the shredding of the constitution, the bypassing of laws and congress, the collusion with warren buffet and billionires… no none of that…

its the color of his skin cause your too stupid and race blind to think that there is anythning of substance and reduces the people who ended slavery, died to do so, created the civil rights laws and all that.

hey moron.. bull connor was a democrat… the kkk and knights of the white camelia were democrat forces that murdered blacks… the draft riots led democrat unions who were told blacks would take their jobs to riot and kill manmy of them… then there is the democrat N*egro project which name was changed to planned parenthood that has exterminated millinos of black children, so much so, more were aborted in ny this year than born… the dems who increased welfare and as they did, the black population got worse. who originally created minimum wage as a way to stop blacks from getting jobs they thought no white man would pay equal wage for (They were wrong)… and the NRA who originally started cause dems didnt want blacks to own guns like whites… or the democrats of the south who wanted to count slaves for congressional apportionment while not giving them a vote.. almost all kkk members in congress were dems. the leaders of segregation were dems.. the dems voted AGAINST the civil rights laws.

so why you so dumb?
cause the dems told you to be dumb and you listened and never learned yourself.

by the way dirtbag… i am in a mixed marraige… my wife is from a third world country, and we love each other dearly as we watch losers like you blame their own lack of success and drive on race…

i grew up in an inner city slum in ny, and watched the black men shooting up heroin into their penis across the street.. watched how their families were torn apart by dem welfare policies and feminsit hate of the father… till what you had were EBT queens…

look in the mirror…
your the “расистов” (racist)…
in fact, the term was coined by trotsky and didnt exis before the soviet union. the term race, racialist, etc did… but not racism.

“Slavophilism, the messianism of backwardness, has based its philosophy upon the assumption that the Russian people and their church are democratic through and through, whereas official Russia is a German bureaucracy imposed upon them by Peter the Great. Mark remarked upon this theme: “In the same way the Teutonic jackasses blamed the despotism of Frederick the Second upon the French, as though backward slaves were not always in need of civilised slaves to train them.” This brief comment completely finishes off not only the old philosophy of the Slavophiles, but also the latest revelations of the ‘racists.'”

in the original russian…
Славянофильство, мессианизм отсталости, строило свою философию на том, что русский народ и его церковь насквозь демократичны, а официальная Россия — это немецкая бюрократия, насажденная Петром. Маркс заметил по этому поводу: “Ведь точно так же и тевтонские ослы сваливают деспотизм Фридриха II и т. д. на французов, как будто отсталые рабы не нуждаются всегда в цивилизованных рабах, чтобы пройти нужную выучку”. Это краткое замечание исчерпывает до дна не только старую философию славянофилов, но и новейшие откровения “расистов”.

@Questionman: But the US has the world’s highest rate of gun violence. Even the people who defend the right to own guns should be able to recognize the need to reduce their USE by mentally unstable people.

yeah,.. blame the gun, blame whitey, but its the black folk that keep voluntarily pulling guns and shooting people at rates a few hundre percent higher than any other group…

blacks in the US commit more crimes than any other group… they attack in groups, they see racism when there isnt any, they ignore racism of the people who claim to support them… and more…

you really think guns are the problem sir?
most of us think that the problem is the persons who go to guns as a way of earning a living, attacking others, and more…

the bible, of whuch most blacks are christian (other than militans and prison blacks who join islam, like h rap brown who the music is a homage to his book die ni**er die… )..

how can i remove a splinter from my brothers eye when there is a board in my own

wake up dipstick… they have been lying to you for 150 years just as surely as Stalin lied to his own, castro lied to his own, chavez lied and his daugher became a billionaire as his people starve, mao lied, and more…

you should go back to the history books not the ones written by communists, racialists and such as they leave out lots of history so that ignorant ignoramuses like you can get all fired up and be their free army of useful idiots sacrificing their own lives for the cause of people that hate them and tell them to hate others who stood up for them….

cause dumb is dumb in any color…
and you are not going to have a decent life till you realize how dumb you are and how they are using you… after all, the more they help the worse off the black population is, and the angreier blacks get, and the more guns they grab and the worse they look to others…

and that is YOUR side of it…
the radical republicans are the ones that freed the slaves whether intentionally or not… the radical republicans are the ones taht fought the soutern dems racist policies of water fountains, and dogs and hoses… ever check the party that was doing that to you and if yoru part of that party? or have you just let them lie to you, fire up your life, and not see if they are shucking and jiving your ass back to the plaintation?

go through the list of senators, governors and such and see what party they belonged to… the republicans had them serve in congress right after the war, it wasnt until the 1930s that dems had blacks in their party…

Hiram Rhodes Revels of Mississippi was the first black elected as a United States senator, serving from 1870-1871 as a Republican.

Blanche K. Bruce, also of Mississippi came after him

Joseph Rainey of South Carolina was the first black to enter the House of Representatives as a republican

United States Senate

Hiram Rhodes Revels (1822-1901); Republican – Mississippi; 1870-1871

Blanche Bruce (1841-1898); Republican – Mississippi; 1875-1881

House of Representatives

John Willis Menard (1838-1893); Republican – Louisiana; 1868

Joseph Rainey (1832-1887); Republican – South Carolina; 1870-1879

Jefferson F. Long (1836-1901); Republican – Georgia; 1870-1871

Robert C. De Large (1842-1874); Republican – South Carolina; 1871-1873

Robert B. Elliott (1842-1884); Republican – South Carolina; 1871-1874

Benjamin S. Turner (1825-1894); Republican – Alabama; 1871-1873

Josiah T. Walls (1842-1905); Republican – Florida; 1871-1873, 1873-1875, 1875-1876

Richard H. Cain (1825-1887); Republican – South Carolina; 1873-1875, 1877-1879

John R. Lynch (1847-1939); Republican – Mississippi; 1873-1877, 1882-1883

James T. Rapier (1837-1883); Republican – Alabama; 1873-1875

Alonzo J. Ransier (1834-1882); Republican – South Carolina; 1873-1875

Jeremiah Haralson (1846-1916); Republican – Alabama; 1875-1877

John Adams Hyman (1840-1891); Republican – North Carolina; 1875-1877

Charles E. Nash (1844-1913); Republican – Louisiana; 1875-1877

Robert Smalls (1839-1915); Republican – South Carolina; 1875-1879, 1882-1883, 1884-1887

James E. O’Hara (1844-1905); Republican – North Carolina; 1883-1887

Henry P. Cheatham (1857-1935); Republican – North Carolina; 1889-1893

John Mercer Langston (1829-1897); Republican – Virginia; 1890-1891

Thomas E. Miller(1849-193); Republican – South Carolina; 1890-1891

George W. Murray (1853-1926); Republican – South Carolina; 1893-1895, 1896-1897

George Henry White (1852-1918); Republican – North Carolina; 1897-1901

why not look to see when dems let blacks enter…
and who are the black dems? are they the smart people, or the dumbest ones?

The Republican Party – From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks.

• The Democratic Party – As author Michael Scheuer stated, the Democratic Party is the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

makes you kind of dumb too… eh?

Democrats formed the Confederacy, seceded from the Union and fought a Civil War (1861 to 1865) – a war where over 600,000 citizens were killed, including many thousands of blacks – in order to keep blacks in slavery because the Democrats had built their economic base on the backs of black slaves.

those that died for you, rather than say, yeah, thats a good idea, lets keep them in chains forever… are the ones your yelling your racist screed in ignorance at.

Democrats enacted Fugitive Slave laws to keep blacks from escaping from plantations and instigated the 1856 Dred Scott decision which legally classified blacks as property. Democrats pushed to pass the Missouri Compromise to spread slavery into 50% of the new states. Democrats also pushed to achieve passage of the Kansas-Nebraska Act that was designed to spread slavery into all of the new states.

Northern anti-Civil War Democrats, called “copperheads”, did not want to be drafted to fight in the Civil War. Starting in 1861, they attacked blacks in virtually every Northern city and pushed for a negotiated peace that would have resulted in an independent Confederacy where blacks were kept in slavery. In New York, anti-Civil War Democrats engaged in “Four Days of Terror” against the city’s black population from July 13-16, 1863.

The anti-Civil War chant of the Democrats, as reported by one Pennsylvania newspaper, was: “Willing to fight for Uncle Sam”, but not “for Uncle Sambo.” These anti-Civil War Democrats verbally attacked Republican President Abraham Lincoln because he fought to free blacks from slavery and make his Emancipation Proclamation a reality – a Proclamation that became the source of the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today.

Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan in 1866 to lynch and terrorize Republicans -black and white and drive Republicans out of the South.

The Hayes-Tilden Compromise of 1877 was an attempt by Republicans to end the presidential election stalemate, as well as get the Democrats to stop the lynchings and respect the rights of blacks. Contrary to popular belief, President Rutherford Hayes did not remove the last federal troops from the South, but merely ordered federal troops surrounding the South Carolina and Louisiana statehouses to return to their barracks.

Segregation – Democrats enacted the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws

Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every piece of civil rights legislation from the 1860’s to the 1960’s.

Democrats wanted to keep blacks in virtual slavery and deny blacks the promised “40 acres and a mule”.

After they took control of Congress in 1892, Democrats passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil rights legislation passed by the Republicans, including the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875. It took Republicans nearly six decades to finally achieve passage of civil rights legislation in the 1950’s and 1960’s.

The Republicans started the NAACP in 1909 on Abraham Lincoln’s 100th birthday to counter the racist practices of the Democrats. The first black American to head the NAACP was Republican James Weldon Johnson who wrote the lyrics to “Lift Every Voice and Sing”, the inspirational song that is considered to be the Black National Anthem.

Few blacks know that Republicans also started the Historically Black Colleges and Universities.

–more– in next post

@Questionman:

Democrat Public Safety Commissioner Eugene “Bull” Connor in Birmingham let loose vicious dogs and turned skin-burning fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators.

Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox famously brandished ax handles to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant. In 1954, Democrat Arkansas Governor Orville Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of a Little Rock public school.

Democrat Alabama Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963 and thundered, “Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.”

Democrat Senator Robert Byrd was a former “Exalted Cyclops” and “Keagle” (Recruiter) in the Ku Klux Klan

Byrd remained a Democrat until he died in 2010. He was a prominent leader in the Democrat-controlled Congress where he was honored by his fellow Democrats as the “conscience of the Senate.” Byrd was a fierce opponent of desegregating the military and complained in one letter: “I would rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the wilds.”

Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman’s issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military. In 1958, Eisenhower established a permanent Civil Rights Commission that had been rejected by prior Democrat presidents, including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Having aligned themselves with the Republican Party since the days of Abraham Lincoln

the first man to die in the revolutionary war was a black man who bought his freedom named crispus attucks… at the battle of bunker hill was another great black man..

it took the progressive democrat woodrow wilson to segergate the military and the progressives and dems to continue their race games playing blacks for fools for over a century

Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Democrat President Lyndon Johnson, who pushed through the 1964 Civil Rights Act. In fact, Dirksen was instrumental to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964, 1965 and 1968. Dirksen wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. hailed Senator Dirksen’s “able and courageous leadership” and “The Chicago Defender,” the largest black-owned daily at that time, praised Senator Dirksen “for the grand manner of his generalship behind the passage of the best civil rights measures that have ever been enacted into law since Reconstruction.”

Johnson did not predict a racist exodus to the Republican Party – In their campaign to unfairly paint the Republican Party today as racists, Democrats point to Johnson’s prediction that there would be an exodus from the Democratic Party because of Johnson’s support of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Omitted from the Democrats’ rewritten history is what Johnson actually meant by his prediction. Johnson’s statement was not made out of a concern that racist Democrats would suddenly join the Republican Party that was fighting for the civil rights of blacks. Johnson feared that the racist Democrats would again form a third party, such as the short-lived States Rights Democratic Party. In fact, Alabama’s Democrat Governor George C. Wallace in 1968 started the American Independent Party that attracted other racist candidates, including Democrat Governor Lester Maddox.

Behind closed doors, Johnson said: “These Negro*s, they’re getting uppity these days. That’s a problem for us, since they got something now they never had before. The political pull to back up their upityness. Now, we’ve got to do something about this. We’ve got to give them a little something. Just enough to quiet them down, but not enough to make a difference. If we don’t move at all, their allies will line up against us. And there’ll be no way to stop them. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”

do you think we care if a moron who doesnt know crap about what he is talking about, yelling about and been told to say, says bad things about people who actually care more about his people than he does?

Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Senator Al Gore, Sr. And after he became president, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Attorney General Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.

Nixon started affirmative action implementation

ffirmative action began with Richard Nixon‘s 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher who became known as “the father of affirmative action”) that was merit-based and set the nation‘s first goals and timetables. Nixon was also responsible for the passage of civil rights legislation in the 1970’s.

Fletcher, as president of the United Negro College Fund, coined the phrase “the mind is a terrible thing to waste.” Fletcher was also one of the original nine plaintiffs in the famous “Brown v. Topeka Board of Education”. Fletcher briefly pursued a bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 1995.

affirmative action was pushed by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson kicked almost all blacks out of federal government jobs after he was elected in 1912. Also, while Wilson was president and Congress was controlled by the Democrats, more discriminatory bills were introduced in Congress than ever before in our nation’s history.

Obama is a progressive who admires wilson and FDR and their policies, which harmed blacks… his presendency relied on racist black votes to win, and then his economic poliices ended up harming the black community a whole lot and his statements have caused how many to die and do nasty things that now are seen by others as representative of how blacks are… but they are not like that, i grew up with them.. .black IDIOTS and miltiants lke mr question are the ones that do all that crap.

Democrats claim that they care about diversity, but readily demean black professionals who do not toe the Democratic Party’s liberal line, slandering blacks as “Uncle Toms”, “Sellouts” and “House N-word”, including Dr. Condoleezza Rice, General Colin Powel, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and former Maryland and former RNC Chairman Michael Steele. With impunity, a Democrat Senator, the late Ted Kennedy, called black judicial nominees “Neanderthals”. Democrat Senator Harry Reid slurred Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas as an incompetent Negro who could not write good English. “Slap at Thomas stinks of racism,” was the headline of the New York Daily News’ December 7, 2004 editorial.

Democratic Party operatives depicted Michael Steele on the Internet as a “Simple Sambo” with big, thick red lips and nappy hair, reminiscent of the way Democrats depicted blacks during the days of slavry. Cartoonist Jeff Danziger and Pat Oliphant portrayed Dr. Condoleezza Rice as a “stooge” and a bare foot “Ignorant Mammy”, just the way Democrats demeaned blacks during the days of slavery.

Democrat President Bill Clinton – following in the footsteps of his mentor J. William Fulbright, a staunch segregationist – refused to enforce a court-ordered affirmative action plan while president and was himself sued for discriminating against his black employees while he was the Governor of Arkansas. Clinton also had his Attorney General, Janet Reno, file a class action, reverse discrimination lawsuit on behalf of a group of white janitors at Illinois State University to stop the University from hiring blacks. None of Clinton’s inner-circle of advisors were black, and he failed to take action to stop the massacre of over 800,000 Rwandans in 1994. Without congressional or UN approval, Clinton sent 20,000 troops to help the white Europeans in Bosnia, but refused to send troops to help the 800,000 blacks in Africa.

this country has enough idiots… why not stop being one?

and before you say i am lying… look up the facts… 3
give references as i can give them for every point above…

@Questionman: Why does Barack Obama hate White People? Because he doesn’t.

President Barack Obama, while he was an Illinois senator, provided funding for slum projects in Chicago that kept blacks trapped in rat and roach infested housing, as reported in a Boston Globe article.
As a US senator, Obama voted against the minimum wage bill and wrote a letter of support for former Klansman Senator Robert Byrd that helped that racist win re-election. After he became president, Obama cut funding for historical black colleges and universities (HBCU’s). He ended school choice scholarships in the District of Columbia and sent poor black children back into the failing DC public school system. Obama’s out-of-control spending killed private-sector jobs and created nearly twenty percent black unemployment. In his book “Dreams from My Father”, Obama described what he and other Democrats do to poor blacks as “plantation politics”.

you did read his book, right?

Democrats have been running black communities for the past 50 years, and the socialist policies of the Democrats have turned black communities into economic and social wastelands. Democrats have the audacity to blame Republicans for the crisis in black neighborhoods created by the Democrats.
Democratic Party operatives trashed black Democrat Juan Williams, calling him a “Happy Negro” for daring to expose the failed socialist policies of the Democrats in his book “Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America”.
Without remorse, Democrats deliberately keep blacks in poverty because Democrats have built their political power base on the backs of poor blacks, just as Democrats built their economic power base on the backs of poor blacks during the days of slavery. The centuries-old election year strategy of the Democrats is to keep blacks poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Every election cycle, Democrats preach hatred against Republicans and incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans, not for Democrats.

President Ronald Reagan who also made Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s birthday a holiday. Notably, in an article entitled “Ronald Reagan — More of a Friend to Blacks Than Obama?” the son of Ronald Reagan, Michael Reagan, describes in detail all the good that President Reagan did to help blacks prosper during his administration. Reagan filed more civil rights suits in housing, education and voter discrimination cases than his predecessor, Democrat President Jimmy Carter. He also signed the bill that extended the 1965 Voting Rights Act for 25 years.

unlike you… we dont blindly follow anyone..
we check he facts to realize who is using us
and its awful that some black sell outs are used by dems to convince others who dont take the time to learn the facts and history to be their little army… without pay, and who will suffer the consequences while the tricksters suffer benefits regardless of what their fools do.

but its an old progressive thing… just read Sanger, the woman that created the negr*e project to exterminate blacks… she was a dem, she was also a progressive.

We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members. Commenting on the ‘Negro Project’ in a letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, December 10, 1939 Sanger manuscripts, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, Northampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

now who wants the organization that exterminates blacks and drives blacks into the hands to increase and sell black baby parts for research? the dems?

@Greg: Yeah, you folks put a high priority on evidence.
I do appreciate comedy, even when it’s unintentional.

i do greg… and i will pound your mind into the gravel with evidence, references, empirical points and more… so YOU either start putting up the same or crawl away

time for YOU to put up or shut up…
its your turn you hateful nasty manipulative ignorant agitprop moron

hey question man…
what do you think this advocacy ruling from the bench by a democrat appointed judge result in?

This week the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that people here in the US illegally are subject to 2nd Amendment Rights. For legal citizens, some states will not allow the sale of a firearm to someone who does not LEGALLY reside in that state thus impinging on a LEGAL CITIZEN’s 2nd amendment rights. How is it that the 7th found that an illegal alien, regardless of which state they reside in can purchase a firearm when a legal citizen has to first LEGALLY RESIDE in the state?

@Greg:

Present some, and we can discuss it, otherwise you fall into the same category as Questionman.

@Budvarakbar: I never said I thought he was a Christian. Only that he claims to be a Christian. Big difference. But for one who claims to be a Christian and is an accuser of the brethren, IMHO, it is doubly bad.

No wake up call needed.

@JSW: He certainly shows more respect to the Prophet of Islam than he does to the Cornerstone of Christianity.

It is written “By their fruits, ye shall know them”. All Obama has done is sow bitterness and division.

A four-year investigation has concluded that officials of the solar company Solyndra misrepresented facts and omitted key information in their efforts to get a $535 million loan guarantee from the U.S. government. Solyndra was the first company to get federal loan guarantees under a program that was created in 2005 and expanded by President Barack Obama’s 2009 economic stimulus package. The company’s failure soon after receiving the loan guarantee likely will cost taxpayers more than $500 million. Republicans and other critics cite it as an example of wasteful spending under the stimulus program

@Mike: Sorry — I kinda of realized that but my comment was really intended as being address to the larger population — the vast majority of which seem to not be able to tell Christian from any other ‘religion’

@Artfldgr:
To all of your posts on this thread, right on!

@Artfldgr, #39:

i do greg… and i will pound your mind into the gravel with evidence, references, empirical points and more…

Perhaps you can begin with a list of evidence establishing that Hillary Clinton’s use of a private server was unlawful at the time she was in office, and that there were actually documents and information transmitted with it or stored on it that were classified at the time they were sent or stored. “Because somebody says so” doesn’t actually qualify as evidence.

…so YOU either start putting up the same or crawl away

The burden to provide proof of wrongdoing is on the accuser. Rational people don’t automatically accept unsupported accusations to be true unless the accused can prove otherwise.

You can pound the ground, for all I care. The right has a long history of pedaling bullshit to manipulate public opinion and further their agenda. I know a carefully timed effort at politically motivated character assassination when I see one. It has become a central part of the GOP’s modus operandi.

@Artfldgr, #44:

Solyndra? They went bust and could, in fact, cost the taxpayers $500 million owing to federally guaranteed loans. They have in fact been investigated for accounting and loan fraud—and one would hope investigations would follow such a failure. That doesn’t mean Solyndra represents a typical outcome of the government’s involvement in alternative energy development. Overall, the Obama Administration’s alternative energy initiative is producing exceptionally good results.

$500 million is a lot of money. So was the $60 billion lost to contractor waste, fraud, and mismanagement in Iraq and Afghanistan. Do you hold Bush administration policies directly responsible for that? Or does responsibility for private sector mismanagement and malfeasance only apply when a democrat is in office?

@Greg: Hillary had her server professionally wiped clean. This is at the very least destruction of evidence and obstruction of an investigation. Both of which are very serious criminal matters.

That she erased the smoking-gun proof you demand does not constitute a lack of evidence. It does however, indicate that she has calculated that whatever was on her server was much more damaging to her political aspirations than tampering with evidence.

@Me, #49:

It’s at the very least the deletion of her personal correspondence, which would not have been illegal. The law only required preservation of correspondence relating to official business.

That no evidence can be found is not proof that evidence has been concealed or destroyed. It may never have existed to begin with.

Besides that, copies of anything she deleted could still exist on the servers of the people who sent email to her, or to whom she sent email. Deletion of official correspondence only on her own end would be asking for serious trouble, because evidence could then be produced confirming that she did so. That would be worse than having it found on her own server to begin with.