A former fetus, the “wordsmith from nantucket” was born in Phoenix, Arizona in 1968. Adopted at birth, wordsmith grew up a military brat. He achieved his B.A. in English from the University of California, Los Angeles (graduating in the top 97% of his class), where he also competed rings for the UCLA mens gymnastics team. The events of 9/11 woke him from his political slumber and malaise. Currently a personal trainer and gymnastics coach.
The wordsmith has never been to Nantucket.
Rauf mentions things began snowballing in May, due to some politicians. But the politicians only jumped on the bandwagon after Pam Geller and Robert Spencer began raising the ruckus; Back around December of ’09, Laura Ingraham interviewed Daisy Khan:
And basically wished her the best of luck (saying “I like what you’re trying to do”).
Mata provides a timeline link.
The Muslims have been crying out for tolerance in their quest to build a mosque at the site of ground zero.
Now a church pastor in FL wants to educate the Muslims on Freedom 101. This lessons involves the mind as well as the heart. Your heart must been in tune with the Constitution of the United States that makes it possible to hold a peaceful protest and burn a book. The Koran is a book. Islam is NOT a religion but rather a political form of domination.
Freedom 101 teaches Muslims that in a free country, one can object to the lawful acts of other that are contrary to ones own belief and still survive. It teaches that burning the Koran is not an act of violence but of protest. The church pastor has the right to protest against what he believes, or perceives, is the slow creeping nature of stealth Sharia law in America. American’s when questioned about Sharia Law, if they know what it is, would reject it soundly.
Freedom 101 teaches that it is preferable to hold a Koran burning rather than organizing a terrorist group of Christians to secretly kill Muslims in their sleep. It is non-violent.
And, the morning after will show that everyone has not been harmed AND the worst that could have happened is that people have thought about what they want for their country. Cowtow to the Islamic ways or celebrate the energy and strength of the freedoms we cherish within our Liberty and right to peacefully protest, as a free expression of our ideas.
Nevertheless, if the church pastor decides he does not want to burn the Koran; he wins in a win/win because then he throws the gauntlet down directly to the imam wanting to build a mosque at ground zero. Either the imam backs down or he will face the same wrath that almost 70% of New Yorkers and Americans can muster.
Obama should be ashamed of himself. The usurper should defend American’s rights to their constitutional rights as he does his Muslim pals. Obama says that this Koran burning will incite Muslims to violence. I have news for the dump Obama, the Muslims are always and already incited toward violence … read the news! Besides, flying the American flag in Muslim countries must be as much of an insult to them as burning the Koran. Obama is a traitor. Obama is a Muslim. That’s why we have the mess we have in this country due to Obama’s rage against the American way of life.
now this fraud rouf says that if the mosque isnt built at ground zero, where the “extremist” muslims murdered 3000 people,
the extremist muslims are going to get angry and use this as an excuse to murder more people,,,….. what?
got that? he is basically saying hey, I know those “extremists” over thier murdered some of your family, and Im sensitive to that, but we are in a bind here, if you dont let us “moderates” rape you, those “extremists” are going to get upset and murder more of your family.
this will only hurt a little but, because im sensitive to your pain……
Rauf is an enemy of the United States and should be treated accordingly.
@ minuteman 26, do you think that the Amateur Hour Eric Holder DOJ would toss him into GITMO and prosecute him when the USS Cole Bombers got off scott free?
Just askin. Rauf has Civil Rights Doncha know…
OT2 – My wish for Rauf is a small entrance wound and a very large exit wound.
@ Rule .308 Hollow point serves it up keenly at 800 meters or better.
I prefer .45 JHP, double tap, at close range. No worries mate. 1911A1.
OT2 – Works for me.
@AdrianS, #2: “Freedom 101 teaches that it is preferable to hold a Koran burning rather than organizing a terrorist group of Christians to secretly kill Muslims in their sleep. It is non-violent.”
It’s a calculated public insult to someone else’s faith. How would the Florida pastor feel about organized Bible burnings by American Muslims, in the name of Constitutional freedom?
That’s a hypothetical question, of course, because American Muslims don’t do such things.
in related news the koran burning was called off. rauf on the other hand has declared that he wont give up on a ground zero mosque, becuase the location is just too juicy!
got that?
free speech (even repugnant as a book burning is) is called off becuase of the threat of violence from “the religion of peeeece”.
the mosque at ground zero must go on becuase of the threat of violence from “the religion of peeece”.
it seems that compromise, sensitivity, and understanding is a one way street, and you dont want to be a pedestrian on this one way street of islam
American Muslims fly planes into building and kill 3000 nationals from many countries.
American Muslims also design victory monuments that point to Mecca to celebrate.
American Muslims kill professors that disagree with them – they did at UofA.
American Muslims conduct dry runs of hijacking and terror.
American Muslims kill their daughters to settle manners of honor; and their fellow Muslims help them avoid the police and flee the country.
American Muslims kill their wives, beheading them in some cases.
American Muslims kill people in airports, Jewish day care centers, schools, and sidewalks.
… I’ll take burning a Bible any ole’ day.
Groan… another brain trust hits the cyber waves…
It was not “American” Muslims who piloted the planes on 911
It was not even a Muslim who designed the Flight 93 memorial in PA
Any professor, Muslim or not, who kills another is subject to American law and will be prosecuted as such. Crime, if you haven’t figured it out, isn’t confined to Muslims
Any terrorist is apt to do a dry run… just as any criminal is apt to do a dry run on a large gig. Again, not confined to Muslims
Not all Muslims… in any country… kill their daughters in honor killings. All western nations, including Canada, UK and the US, prosecute them as common murderers. Again not confined to Muslims. Witness the Pentacostal wacky lady who killed her kids. So I guess “all American Pentacostals kill their kids”?
Is Muslim wife killing and beheading running amok in the US? Gee… think I missed that news statistic
With all the Muslims flying daily, and their population here in the states, it’s amazing that anyone gets thru an airport, Jewish day care center, school, or walking down the road alive… according to you.
Your blanket hate is an embarrassment. Your knowledge of facts and statistics even more embarrassing, Adriane (not to be confused with AdrianS)
@ Adriane, I’m up at OP#1 tonight, about 2 miles away from the house and I have been smelling BS, from real cattle all evening. Why do I smell it here at FA? I’m inside the bunkhouse and we all wiped our boots off before coming in for dinner.
Did you sneak some BS in here while I wasn’t looking and why?
My BS detector went off when I read your posting. It is in the 40s here but I’m going to have to open a window now.
I was wondering when someone would bring up the Koran burning. Tell me the difference between burning a book that would insult some religious people and building a mosque near the 9/11 site that would insult even more people.
I have no problem with people holding different views but I do have serious problems when those same people ridicule and do not respect a view that is opposite of theirs. The Imam talks about the separation between church and state, yet ask him what he thinks about burning a book. The church has a right to burn any book they so desire as the Imam can build where he likes. Those who favor the building of the mosque are against the burning of the book. If you do not understand what I am writing then you have a serious problem with what liberty is really about. I am against building the insulting mosque and I am against burning a Koran in public. I am and will always be consistent in my understanding of liberty.
The Florida church was never going to burn the Koran. They were making a point and most of those who supported the mosque did not get and never will get.
The Imam does not care one small bit about the insult he is bringing to New York. The preacher in Florida knows and knows it well.
Welcome to dhimmitude.
Hi Mata –
Unlike other jihadi who learned their trade in camps in Afghanistan and abroad, the Muslims who pulled off 9-11 came to America with the story that they wished to acquire skills. America has long accepted students who wish to better themselves. America accepted them as such and our reward for our openness was 9-11.
If you would like to argue they were not American born, nor American citizens, no argument from me.
But the foot soldiers for 9-11 came from the ranks of Muslims living in America. Wadih El-Hage moved here from Afghanistan to wed an American Muslim named April Ray in an arranged marriage. He also was known to travel back and forth to Sudan – at the time, bin Laden’s headquarters. He is currently in federal prison for the Tanzania Embassy bombing. He is considered (partially) responsible for the 9-11 attacks as one of its leading planners.
Wadih El-Hage is also considered (though not proven) to a role in the assassination of the leader of a Islamic sect in Tucson in 1990 {Rashad Khalifa who preached a version of the Koran contrary to traditional Islamic doctrine}. Steve Emerson has called this murder one of the first by sleeper al-Qaeda agents.
Lotfi Raissi, was a onetime resident Phoenix, gave flight training to four of the terrorists in Arizona.
Hani Hanjoor, AA 77 lived in Tucson and Phoenix and took flight-training courses in Scottsdale. Nawaf Al-Hazmi (possibly) took flight-training in Arizona. After 9-11 agents discovered a cashier’s check for a Phoenix-area flight school in his vehicle. Khalid Almihdhar lived with Hanjoor in San Diego, and reportedly attended a flight school in Arizona.
Larry Goodson, the author of Afganistan’s Endless War, states: “These are people whose job it is to come to the United States and settle into regular jobs … They are not politically active. They do not flaunt their religious backgrounds. Their job is to lay low until they are activated. It looks like Arizona had some of these folks there.” {bolding added by me}
So … Would you like Muslims living in America better than the description American Muslims?
If yea, I will restate:
I would rather Muslims living in America burn the Bible than kill 3000 people on 9-11, their daughters, their wives, people manning the Al El flight counter at LAX, people working at the Jewish day center in Seattle, people walking on the sidewalk at Vanderbilt University (North Carolina University, et. al.), et cetera.
A book can be reprinted. A dead human being can not be revived…
Adriane, Muslims who come here with, or without, legal visas are not “American Muslims”. They are foreigners with a temporary visa, which they violated… in addition to a slew of other laws – both tort and moral. So what’s your point… close the borders to anyone Muslim?
Well… gee that makes your comment soooooooo much better. /sarc
All jihadists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are jihadists. In fact it is other Muslims upon whom we depend for much of our national security intel today, and with our military strategy in the theatre.
And the day this nation closes it’s doors to immigrants based on choice of religion is the day the founding principles die.
Wordsmith, good thing you are way away in California, if you were within reach I would be tempted to either give your ear a little tug or your arm a little pinch just like my granny used to do to me. 😉
BTW, I am happy the whacko preacher called the bonfire off and hope Trump can work a little magic. Whew!
You were wondering????? scratches head….
It has it’s own thread with over 200 comments, CHill. I suspect you’ll get all the input to your question there you could desire.
Remember back in April/May of 2009 when Obama wanted to incite Muslims to violence?
He was stopped, thank goodness.
He wanted to release (he didn’t HAVE to, he wanted to) photos of more prison abuse by Americans of Muslims.
It took our military and public going ballistic before he backed down.
Had he acted (out of desire to make Bush look bad) his actions probably would have led to deaths of Americans here and abroad.
I sometimes think he was 100% right when he said moral judgment (like the wisdom of whether abortion should be gov’t subsidized or ground zero mosques should be built) was above his pay grade.
Hi Marta –
Wadith El-Hage became a naturalized citizen of the United States in 1989.
So, when exactly, in your opinion, does an Muslim who emigrates to America become an American and worthy therefore, to be called “an American Muslim” or “A Muslim living in America” for the purpose of this discussion?
I have not put any words into your mouth with my posting and I would appreciated if you did the same: it is you, not me, that points to closing the border to Muslims as a solution.
Mosque Site Just One Block From Human Remains
http://www.thefoxnation.com/culture/2010/09/10/mosque-site-just-one-block-human-remains
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/grim_map_that_widens_zero_oO8KsXYbwMogueIyoPfxCP
Democracy and Freedom are incompatible with the Sharia law. Any honest muslim will tell you that. But they are not required to be honest to non-muslims. Islam is as much a political movement as it is religious. The other people of the book, Jews and Christians, have universal truths. Thou Shalt not murder. Muslims have a different truth. Thou shalt not murder muslims but infidels are fair game.
NOTHING should be built there, because someday will bring decisions to DNA the ground so to IDENTIFY those victims for their family to reckon with their LOVED ONE;
EVEN LESS a many stages tall building which need to dig deeper in the ground to be made secure.
Adriana: hi, please tell me if I’m wrong to think that some good points of yours,
are meant “AMERICANS MUSLIMS” ” BY ASSOCIATION”;
AND you would be right to think so like many AMERICANS MENTIONNED on their comments,
ALSO The MUSLIMS who showed outrage in other country, ATTACKING AMERICANS,
AND burning THE FLAG and SPOUT violence and death wish to all THE FREE WORLD and more of
because ONE man decide he had enough of the IMAN pushing his insensitive intent to build around a site where victims in thousands died by their own brothers by simpathic association to their religion. nothing to do with that men alone with his declare wish to fight it by associating the koran to make a point. but they show their hate to all who are not with them very clearly.
bye
OLD TROOPER 2, HI, I wish this post and your comments would this SEPTEMBER BUT 2011 INSTEAD,
BECAUSE you would now talk about THE ARAB SPRING, which empower the MUSLIMS OF THE
MIDDLE EAST SO MUCH, THAT they now feel free to test their strenght on OUR FRIENDS ISRAEL,
THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, is well receive in the AMERICA, THEY ARE EVEN FREELY VISIT THE PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AS OPOSE TO MANY OF THE TEA PARTY, HAS NEVER BEEN INVITED,
AS THEY SHOULD BE, BECAUSE THEY VALUE THE LAWS OF THE LAND AND WORK HARD TO EXPOSE THE
FALSHOOD COMING FROM MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT, ALL OVER THE STATES,
NOW YOU WOULD TALK OF THE COMING ELECTION, WHERE THE GIANTS AMERICANS WILL MARCH TO CLEAN UP THE WHITE HOUSE FROM IMPOSTERS,
and we would be able to read your new ideas, that where always interesting to read,
bye