It’s Official: Our American President Declares, “America one of the largest Muslim countries.”

In admitting that the US is a Muslim country has Obama repudiated the accomplishments of Battle of Tours in 732 and, in effect, given the appearance to the Muslim world of accepting the extension the caliphate to include North America ?

Worth repeating: “Just what planet is this US President on? Or is this not a statement but an aspiration?”

MataHarley is absolutely incorrect when she cites the United States Census as the source of any quantification of the number of muslims present in the US. The census bureau does not collect data about the religious affiliation of any portion of the population of the United States, including muslims.

The most current and accurate figure is that presented by the CIA World Factbook, currently 0.6% of the population or around 1.8 million individuals.

Granny, wait a damn minute here. Pelosi told you that the CIA Lies.
Who are You going to trust?

Mata never lied to me. The Government got Me deployed on the Lack of a Competent CIA and they were always glad to see me but lied to me from hiding and were sent to safety but I stayed and met the neighbors. Killed some of them and brought in Food, Water, Medical Folks and killed the ones that wanted to kill me and when it was Safe, CIA folks minus the ones like Johnny Spann returned not alive… I was in Baghram when He was Murdered and the CIA Fact Book is horse dung.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Spann

CIA Fact Book? Written by Fools and believed by Fools.

No Offense Old Girl. I know better.

Granny, if you go to the Islam 101 link, they said they used census and INS figures as their source data. Since you’re too dang lazy to click on the damn link and read their methods of calculation yourself, I’ll reproduce it here.

OVERVIEW Muslim social scientists and researchers have spent a great deal of time trying to determine the number of Muslims in the United States. Most accept the estimate of from 5 million to 8 million. That is to say at least 5 million people in North America claim Islam as their religion and/or practice. What is represented in this report is based on estimates made in 1991, the World Almanac reports that Muslim in the United States number approximately 5,220,00. The total worldwide Muslim population is generally estimated at slightly more that 1 billion. David Barrett’s publication, “International Bulletin of Missionary Research” cites a lower figure, 988,004,000.

An exact figure of Muslim population in the United States is very difficult to make. The figures presented here are based on available data.

In the United States, there are essentially three categories of Muslims: 1) immigrants; 2) American converts/reverts to Islam; and 3) those born to the first two groups as Muslims.

The immigrant population of the United States is relatively easy to document because the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the Census Bureau, and other government agencies have been keeping records of immigrants. In order to arrive at our figures, we researched the history of Muslim ethnic groups around the world and then determined their percentage as Muslim. We then correlated this percentage with the number of Muslims in the United States, which enabled us to determine the percentage represented in the overall population.

Determining the number of indigenous Muslims was more difficult. In most cases, records have not been kept by any single source. To arrive at the number of American converts to Islam, we had to look at various groups’ conversion rates and compare them against their mortality and fertility rates.

Perhaps if you click on the links providing instead of pontificating, you’d realize I was not saying they derived the information from census responses. But you would have not put your foot in your mouth so quickly had you read how they derived their numbers.

Thus, if you want to bitch, do it to them.

I use the CIA Factbook regularly, however you will notice they do not disclose their source for their figures, nor the derivative calculations. And, as we all know, the census does not include questions on religious practice. Yet you accept this non-sourced, undisclosed method of calculation by the CIA as gospel. Please explain why.

Item: Osama bin Laden delivers scathing criticism of Obama.

The message was the second from al-Qaida in as many days criticizing Obama. Analysts said the PR offensive shows the terrorist organization worries the new president will succeed in improving America’s image in the Muslim world and undermine the group’s anti-American jihad, or holy war.

“Obama’s election is just about the worst thing that could have happened to these guys,” said Tom Sanderson, a terrorism expert at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. “They knew right away that his election undermined a key part of their argument that the U.S. was anti-Islamic, that the U.S. was racist.”

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g295lp-miilKjtRfW6ZDw0lEFYYgD98JERCG0

The supply side approach to the problem of terrorists, the world’s most renewable resource, who cannot be killed or captured as fast as they are hatched; so a complementary approach is to reduce the hatch rate.

- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA

MataHarley: Good points on how each arrived at their numbers. It would be interesting to see how the CIA arrived at theirs (or maybe they’d say it was a matter of national security and not tell us *evilgrin*)

“I’ve been taking a lot of heat from my friends about my opinion that Obama was going to throw Israel under the bus. Never, they say…”

I think Obama was pretty clear on where he stood with our allies. And it sure wasn’t as close as previous presidents. Whether this is because his father was a muslim or some other reason, one can only venture a guess.

BUT since he has royally pissed off Britain on several issues, it really doesn’t matter WHY. It just matters that he IS and that is going to alienate us further from the sane world

“BTW, our fresh military grads *were* attacked by Muslim extremists. Guess the media and Obama just don’t want to face that one since it’s low death toll”

You know, I somehow would not doubt that he doesn’t want that “out there” because he knew what his plans are in the middle east. And by bringing that out, he is only going to cause more people to be more cautious of Muslims and he wouldn’t get away as easily as using his middle name now as he is.

If we should have another big to major attack my Muslim extremist that can not be ignored so easily, watch how quickly he sweeps “Hussein” under the bus. Heck, don’t be surprised if he suddenly becomes “President BARRY Obama” if that comes to pass.

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:

Item: Osama bin Laden delivers scathing criticism of Obama.

No way! This is just a scare tactic drummed up by the Obama Administration. bin Laden is a puppet creation of the CIA, don’t'cha know; and isn’t it kinda suspicious how the tape is released juuuuuust as Air Force One is landing in the Middle East? Convenient coincidence? Or a manipulation by the O-Administration to keep America cowering in fear and rally around President Obama as protector? C’mon…we all know the Overseas Contingency Operations is an overexaggerated farce! There is no Islamic terror threat!

Oh wait…that was only when Bush was in office. Dumb me: It’s all different now…..Terrorism Overseas Contingency is real, folks!

Sorry but I feel sick. I imagine things in the futute. Picture this in few years when we are going to have a mosque in the White House to celebrate Muslim heritage or that we are going to have one in every city in America. Not only that, Israel may stop existing and all the Liberal Leftists of Israel could be in America and only the Orthodox Jews will remain in the Holy Land. The countries to go and disappear are Taiwan, Israel and Greece.
I should enjoy this world the way still is today.

‘America, one of the largest Muslim countries” perhaps this is Obama’s vision for America.

@ philly_nj
A lot of historians believe Tut was a huge emissary for peace in the Middle East. They reference all the stuff he was buried with from other leaders in the region. I believe that is what they are trying to compare as it relates to President Obama.

I on the other hand would rather compare him to Neville Chamberlain in that regard.