Washington Post: We’re Tired of the Lie That the Democrat Race is Between “Moderates” and “Radical Socialists.” Let’s Face It, They’re All Radical Socialists.

This is a game the Democrats when Obama first ran. He was far, far left as a candidate when he was trying to appeal to the most radical of his party. I heard from a few Obama supporters who admitted they knew he was lying about this or that so they voted for him anyway. He WAS lying, but whether they suspected it before the fact is debatable.

Democrats today have a much more radical and further left group to suck up to. They have to go further left and tell more socialist lies to try and out-socialism Bernie and Betsie. Of course, they don’t KNOW they’re being lied to.

Bernie’s people are not going to be happy if they get screwed again. They’ve even threatened violence, and that’s not an idle threat. Let’s not forget Bernie had ANTIFA doing his bidding in 2016. But, if Bernie is the candidate, those Democrats that actually have some commons sense are not going to support him.

This is what lying to everyone gets you.

@Deplorable Me: “commons sense” Dems. will support the nominee—get out the vote—still more Dems than Repubs. and bring the reign of Trump and his trumpeteers to an end.
He couldn’t even resist going after Manchin—what a fool he is.

Kitt—RT MIS IDENTIFIES TULSI—-THEN DISAPPEARS Any clues?

@Richard Wheeler: Gimme a link, all I can pull up is how to identify Holy Basil. I grow sweet basil, chives, flat italian parsley, rosemary and mint.
Strange the Ruskies would’nt know their own agent. 😉

@kitt, #6:

You are a lying dog faced pony soldier, Heres the deal, Rudy gave his documents pointing to money laundering to the DOJ.

And that is what occasioned the question that led to William Barr’s comment.

@Greg:

Uh huh. Maybe you should have made that observation during the impeachment trial.

Uh huh. That’s a nice little piece of out-of-context quoting, little guy. Trump started to reveal Dem corruption, then all of Nancy’s platitudes about the severity of impeachment went right out the window. Coincidence? No.

You can’t actually sidestep the involvement of the DNC in Ukriane, so it’s convenient you and your party now say everything you want not to be true is a “lie”. Sure it is.

Trump hasn’t lost interest…it’s more that others have finally gained interest.

And seriously, you thought Biden was a “front-runner”? No one ever thought that, especially not the DNC while it was making deals with Mini Mike and crashing software to mask Bernie’s support.

@Deplorable Me, #10:

It’s being investigated by Ukraine and the Senate.

So says Rudy Giuliani, returned from Ukraine with boxes of b.s.

Attorney General William Barr: “There are a lot of agendas in the Ukraine. There are a lot of cross currents. And we can’t take anything we receive from the Ukraine at face value.”

The word anything ought to tell you something—particularly coming from someone who is strongly inclined to support the interests of Donald Trump.

Then there’s Lindsey Graham, now furiously back-pedaling to gain some distance between himself and Rudy and his “evidence” now that both have served their purpose:

“But if Rudy Giuliani has any information coming out of the Ukraine, he needs to turn it over to the Department of Justice because it could be Russian propaganda.”

Yeah—as the U.S. intelligence community told the Senate in a formal briefing months ago. They know where these disinformation stories started, having traced them back to their Russian sources.

From The Hill, February 9, 2020 – Graham vows to approach Hunter Biden probe with caution: ‘I’m not going to be the Republican Christopher Steele’

Close public inspection of the contents of Rudy’s box is the last thing Trump’s people want. The box was a propaganda prop. It’s what Hitchcock referred to as a “McGuffin”.

As for the republican-controlled Senate, they’ve already demonstrated how abysmally untrustworthy they are when tasked with the job of uncovering the truth. They were complicit in conducting a trial where both material testimony and material evidence were blocked by the accused. They were, in fact, the means by which that was finally accomplished.

It would be interesting to know who paid the undoubtedly enormous tab for Rudy & Company’s international “fact-finding” expeditions. Somebody really should investigate that.

@Greg:

So says Rudy Giuliani, returned from Ukraine with boxes of b.s.

How do you know? How can you be so sure? Perhaps you’ve seen some of the other investigative stories and, like Nalder, what’s in those boxes scares the living shit out of you.

You accepted completely without research the Hillary funded Steele dossier. You accepted the discredited “black dossier”. You will enthusiastically believe ANYTHING presented to you as long as it is anti-Republican. However, you can’t accept the incredibly incriminating facts of Hillary deleting 33,000 emails, she and Bill accepting millions from Russians in exchange for her support of letting the Russians take control of a fifth of our uranium, Obama spying on the Trump campaign, the Mueller investigation’s rampant lies and intimidation of witnesses, the total bias and prejudice of that investigation, Feinstein and Blaise Ford’s proven lies, the media’s blatant bias, Schiff’s unprecedented bias and prejudice in blocking evidence from tainting his hearings or the ridiculous demands of Democrats for the Republicans to ceded their control of the Senate trial. But you instantly declare everything Giuliani has uncovered as BS. He’s presented some of the documents on some programs already (undoubtedly saving the “best” for Barr) and they are not opinion, hearsay, second-hand knowledge or presumptions such as Schiff depended 100% on for his hearings.

You know what’s in those boxes? The downfall of the Democrat party.

Enjoy.

But more to the point… GIULIANI! (Here He Goes Again) – Randy Rainbow Song Parody

The rot spreads…

February 11, 2020 — Justice Department undercuts own prosecutors on Trump ally Stone’s sentencing

Top Justice Department officials are taking the extraordinary step of disavowing and undercutting their own federal prosecutors, announcing plans to reduce the government’s sentence recommended for longtime Donald Trump confidante Roger Stone, a senior department official said Tuesday.

The stunning and politically charged decision, which is expected to be filed in Washington, DC, federal court later Tuesday, comes hours after Trump publicly criticized the recommendation. It immediately raised questions about the Justice Department’s independence from political pressure, and soon after the announcement, a prosecutor who worked on the case against Stone asked to withdraw from the case and resigned from the DC US attorney’s office, where he had been temporarily assigned from another office.

Prosecutors from the US Attorney’s office in Washington, who are employees of the Justice Department, had said Monday that Stone should be sentenced to seven to nine years in prison after he was convicted on seven charges last year that derived from former special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, including lying to Congress and witness tampering.

That recommendation led Trump overnight Tuesday to bemoan what he called a “horrible and very unfair situation.”

“The real crimes were on the other side, as nothing happens to them. Cannot allow this miscarriage of justice!” Trump said.

Hours later, the senior official said that that sentencing recommendation, transmitted to a judge and signed off on by the office’s top prosecutor, had not been communicated to leadership at the Justice Department.

“The Department was shocked to see the sentencing recommendation,” the official told CNN. “The Department believes the recommendation is extreme and excessive and is grossly disproportionate to Stone’s offenses.”

The decision to make the change was directed by the leadership of the Justice Department, the official said. The department made the decision before the President’s tweet and without consultation with the White House, according to Kerri Kupec, a Justice Department spokeswoman. The White House referred a request for comment to the Justice Department, and the US attorney’s office in Washington declined to comment.

Prosecutor quits

Soon after the revised recommendation was made, Aaron S.J. Zelinsky, a top prosecutor on Mueller’s team, resigned from the DC US attorney’s office, where he had been working as a special assistant US attorney. He also filed a motion to withdraw from the case.

Zelinsky, who is based at the Baltimore US attorney’s office, was the Mueller prosecutor most closely associated with Stone’s case while it was being investigated, and also played a significant role in questioning witnesses at Stone’s trial. He stayed with the Stone case following the closure of Mueller’s office and “resigned effective immediately after this filing” from his role in the DC US attorney’s office, he wrote to the judge on Tuesday.

He had signed Stone’s sentencing memo on Monday, along with three other trial prosecutors. A spokeswoman for the Baltimore US attorney’s office said Tuesday afternoon that Zelinksy had not resigned from his position there.
Grant Smith, an attorney for Stone, said they look forward to reviewing the government’s latest filing shortly.
“We have read with interest the new re
porting on Roger Stone’s case. Our sentencing memo outlined our position on the recommendation made yesterday by the government. We look forward to reviewing the government’s supplemental filing,” Smith said in a statement. Stone’s attorneys had argued a sentence of 15 to 21 months would be appropriate.

Shock over department’s move

It’s not immediately clear whether the Justice Department’s revised recommendation will affect the decision of the presiding judge in the case, Amy Berman Jackson, who will have broad authority to sentence Stone as she sees fit on February 20.

But the move to overrule federal prosecutors after they’ve already made a public commitment is rare, and quickly reverberated throughout the ranks of career Justice Department employees, with prosecutors from another high-profile US attorney’s office expressing shock to CNN.

Tensions have simmered at the department in recent months over Attorney General William Barr’s penchant to be closely involved in matters big and small in the department, Justice officials say. The attorney general has a reputation as a micro-manager and that has manifested itself in odd ways.

Barr in recent weeks appointed Timothy Shea, a close aide, to be acting US attorney in Washington in a clumsy transition with the former US Attorney Jesse Liu, who was moving to a post at the Treasury Department.

Liu had been waiting to move to the new job, but Barr’s move to appoint Shea while Liu was still awaiting her hearing created an awkward transition.

Shea had qualms about the sentencing recommendation on Stone made by line prosecutors, but went along with it, perhaps as a way to win over his troops in the office, one official said

Barr’s decision to disavow and sharply criticize a decision made by Shea severely undermines him in his new job, officials say.

Federal prosecutors and a person convicted of crimes both have the opportunity to submit a memorandum to the court ahead of their sentencing hearing, asking for certain amounts of prison time or less severe punishments. At the sentencing hearing, they’ll speak again to the judge about their wishes before the judge makes a final decision.

In Stone’s case, prosecutors reasoned on Monday that he deserved seven to nine years in prison especially because of his threats of violence as he attempted to intimidate an associate from testifying to Congress and because he broke a gag order several times while awaiting trial, including when he posted a photo of Jackson on Instagram with crosshairs behind her head. Stone disagreed that these actions were as serious as the prosecutors said.

Major player in Russia investigation

Stone lied to Congress five times while testifying to the US House privately in September 2017 about his attempts to gain information from WikiLeaks and help Trump. Federal prosecutors have also argued that Stone’s lies to House investigators substantially interfered with their Russia investigation.

“Investigations into election interference concern our national security, the integrity of our democratic processes, and the enforcement of our nation’s criminal laws. These are issues of paramount concern to every citizen of the United States. Obstructing such critical investigations thus strikes at the very heart of our American democracy,” the prosecutors added.

Prosecutors also discussed how Stone pressured an associate to lie to Congress and slammed Stone for the “low regard in which he held these proceedings” in court. They revisited several episodes where Stone posted on social media or communicated with members of the media and right-wing radio host Alex Jones about his case and Mueller’s investigation while he was barred by the judge from speaking publicly.

Give this man another 4 years, and there will be nothing left to salvage.

@Greg: Gee Greg, I see no defamation lawsuits huh…why do you think that is? Some of these documents are the ones Yovanabitch didnt want to leave the Ukraine so blocked a visa, counting on a Hillary win.
Dont you think a bit of management oversight is better than saying it was too hard and signing off on lying to the FISA court?

@Nathan Blue, #20:

Remember what I said about Trump being a malignant tumor? Maybe you should be CT scanned to check for metastases to the brain, since your own doesn’t appear to be working properly.

Trump not only evades justice himself—he’s now apparently dictating it from the White House. That isn’t what happens in a constitutional republic. That’s how things are handled by the authoritarian leader of a tin-pot banana republic.

@Deplorable Me:

Some of us have already seen the results of investigative journalism that exposed what was going on in Ukraine which the Obama administration ignored, encouraged and profited from.

Some of you think you’ve seen whatever you’ve been told you’ve seen, but never can cite the specifics when asked about them, let alone describe the supporting evidence. Simultaneously, you can’t see what’s happening right in front of your faces, no matter how much evidence is there to be seen with your own eyes. You’re living in a propaganda-induced alternate reality and apparently liking it, but day by day there’s more and more you have to refuse to see, or pretend not to.

@Greg: Your Democrats make accusations they can never back up with any evidence… ever. Schiff claimed he had evidence but apparently lost it. He relied 100% totally on gossip to support his articles of impeachment. You gobbled all this up like a pig eating garbage. Don’t waste your time trying to convince anyone else that they are gullible

All four of the federal prosecutors involved in the Roger Stone case have now resigned in protest.

Good riddance.

@Greg: Like I said I want the evidence fully vetted, I wont be pleased with anything else but proof beyond doubt before anyone going to jail.
We already have proven the FISA Court was played, perhaps wantonly, but played.
The 7th floor of the FBI purged of political fascists.

cite the specifics when asked about them

Ask away, all you have done is attack something your media has not even reported on.
You can watch Rudy on you tube he does show a tiny portion of the evidence he has gathered. You dont have to believe him you can hate him. Contrary to what you have stated we are not told what to think. Barr is correct to be suspicious of any documents coming out of a country so corrupt. There is a money trail, some trusted financial institutions were used in the laundering scheme.

@Deplorable Me, #25:

Your Democrats make accusations they can never back up with any evidence… ever.

They most definitely WERE backed up. They were backed up in a federal courtroom with evidence presented before an impartial jury, that then found Roger Stone guilty of all seven felony counts, despite having some high caliber defense attorneys doing everything they could think of to help him evade such a finding.

Do you comprehend that this is how trial by jury works? This wasn’t a republican-rigged Senate impeachment trial. It was a properly conducted trial in federal criminal court, and Trump is meddling with that process.

I guess you can now add meddling with the criminal justice system on behalf of his political operatives to the endless list of accusations.

Why not? He’s now been told that he can’t be prosecuted for violation of criminal law, and that he is immune from removal of office for abuse of power.

@Greg: you’re just saying what every losing party says about the opposition’s president.

*Yawn*

@Nathan Blue: I think the big winner in N.H tonight is AMY. biggest loser Liz from neighboring Mass
Amy IS a moderate—-and she has won districts in Minn. that voted DT over HRC.
She’s a strong , intelligent, personable lady who, as I’ve said before—-can beat Trump if she can get the nom.

Let’s see how she does in S.C

@Richard Wheeler: N.H. Trump has more votes than Warren, Biden and Klobuchar combined and there was no motivation for Republicans to go out and vote
Warren was very gracious to Amy.

@Richard Wheeler: Every state has its beauty, sad to see a state with that motto vote for the chains of socialism.
The candidates are thinning.
“Molon labe.”