Trump to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, wants FBI to pursue members

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President Trump declared Sunday that he will designate the radical liberal group Antifa as a terrorist organization after a week of violent riots across the country.

“The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization,” the president announced in a midday tweet.

The president’s announcement came after another night of rioting across the country over the death of an African-American man at the hands of Minneapolis police. Cities across the country were consumed by clashes between protesters and police and countless fires and other criminal acts ranging from looting and theft to assault on officers and the use of incendiary devises.

National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos that the rioting in most cities was being instigated by outsiders aligned with Antifa.

“The reports we’re receiving is that this is Antifa. They’re crossing state lines,” O’Brien said. “And we’ve seen this happen before. We saw it in Portland. We saw it in Seattle. We saw it in Berkeley. So, look, we’ll keep our eyes open for anyone else that wants to take advantage of the situation, whether it’s domestic or foreign.

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@Greg: Sour grapes are not a meal that one can recover from quickly or maybe in a lifetime. It is not easy transitioning from a life as a military commander to edged into retirement by a civilian.

@Greg:

Anyone concerned about the fate of American should be as worried about the Boogaloo Bois as about ANTIFA, but there hasn’t been a peep from Team Trump about those guys, nor about anyone similar.

Well, what is the focus are those that commit the violence, the Democrat’s Brownshirts.

Not even the damn Ku Klux Klan has been designated as a terrorist group. Why ANTIFA?

Good point. Excellent point. When was the last time the Klan committed an act of terror? Who was in charge and had the opportunity to declare them a terrorist group? Even though that wasn’t the term in vogue at the time, it was DEMOCRATS. Why, you might ask, did Democrats never move against the Klan? Well, because Democrats WERE the Klan. So, again, thanks for bringing it up. And, once again, we find ourselves with a violent terrorist group that is shielded by the Democrats because they WORK for the Democrats.

They figure if they aren’t getting their own way, our constitutional system must have been compromised by their political enemies.

And you assume the government is not tracking them. The time when the FBI was the personal GESTAPO of the President, used to assail political opponents, ended January 20, 2017.

I suppose we might start with an observation that he was black, and that he’s now dead, and that we’ve never seen anything like that play out in the case of a non-resisting, white arrestee.

So, simply arresting a black man can trigger a violent, riotous response? One of the cops is black; is he racist against blacks as well? Oh, and as to this only happens to blacks….

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/investigations/2019/07/31/you-re-gonna-kill-me-dallas-police-body-cam-footage-reveals-the-final-minutes-of-tony-timpa-s-life/

Remember all THOSE riots? Wow, they were terrible, weren’t they?

If someone is a black male, the odds are very much against him for avoiding run-ins with the legal system and incarceration from the start;

Black or white, it’s a good general rule not to try and pass phony $20 bills while whacked out on meth and fentanyl. Oh… and he had COVID19; you can bet the CDC won’t call THIS a death due to the virus to pad their numbers.

Ignoring that obvious reality entirely, however, the fact that someone doesn’t measure up to your sudden interest in Boy Scout standards doesn’t justify a psycho cop slowly murdering him on the street.

But you believe, like the rest of the left, that it’s only bad when a cop murders a BLACK man… because you never devalue a life (unless it’s an unwanted baby as a result of whoring around).

Sorry, but I understand the motives for such statements perfectly well.

I don’t think you do. What this actually means is that there was a justified reason for Floyd to arrested other than the usual trope, “guilty of shopping while black.” Though we don’t have the details, having meth and fentanyl in his system makes it probable he put up a struggle. In case you missed it, George was a GIANT. So, having him in cuffs makes sense other than “racism”.

The fact that countless exceptional people manage to rise above that and succeed in spite of it doesn’t change the fact that there was something they had to rise above and succeed in spite of.

Their problem is poverty, not endemic racism. The only racism is the Democrats KEEPING them in poverty for their own purposes; Democrats prefer to keep them in financial bondage and dependent on them for their existence. Good for votes; that’s all they worry about.

It’s a shame Gen. Mattis has shown his political ignorance. First, the real Constitutional crisis came on the watch of his previous employer. Using the DOJ, FBI and IC to attack political opponents and try to destroy a duly elected President is far worse abuse of the Constitution than meeting a left wing violent insurrection with the legal, lawful and Constitutional deployment of the military.

@retire05:

In the last week, 21 blacks have been murdered in Chicago. TWENTY-ONE. Where are the protests honoring them?

When Democrats can’t make political hay on them, they could not possibly care less who kills whom.

You could also add that in addition to good parents and parenting, having discipline in school is important. The left has made sure discipline is removed and that students are allowed any behavior they feel like.

@July 4th American: I’ve been asking in numerous forums what the racial component of this killing is that incited violent racial pogroms across the nation. No one has been able to proffer an answer; of course no one can admit they never CONSIDERED an actual racial component; it’s just assumed. Another liberal lie to justify violence.

@Deplorable Me: Very good post and reply. You hit every point right on so that any thoughtful American Patriot would understand. I am sure that those who are trying to destroy America will find weasel words to reply.

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Greg cant accept the abject failure of the Democrats in creating a utopia they promised with a huge government.
We have a problem caused by crappy government whats their answer, more government. Task forces, consultants, Youth centers. Spending tax dollars on non-solutions.
Mattis the poor soul he understands military, not civilians. I still like him he just couldnt deliver. Didnt have what it took to be a winner. He will never have his place in history with Washington, Grant, or Eisenhower.
Trying to stop destruction of rising neighborhoods isnt a bad thing, yes Antifa are terrorists burning down what American sweat and determination had built.
Trump wasnt elected to unify any damn thing. Elected to keep a Harpy and a Pedophile’s pal out of the White House.
After 8 years of Administration lawlessness WE HAD NOTHING TO LOSE.

@July 4th American, #50:

Fentanyl is also unique among the opioids in its ability to cause muscle rigidity of the chest wall, diaphragm, and larynx. Known as “wooden chest syndrome,” it’s safe to say that the combination of this drug is a recipe for heart stoppage.

Detectable traces of an opiod in George Floyd’s dead body are no more responsible for his death than the fact that he was also found to be COVID-19 positive. He slowly died over the course of nine minutes because he was face-down on the pavement with his hands cuffed behind his back while a uniformed psycho crushed his windpipe shut using his knee. He did that with others looking on. We saw it on television, remember?

No doubt his defense attorney’s will try to pedal that tricycle around the courtroom. God help the United States of America if it works.

@July 4th American: There was a security video from a store that captured the events prior to the video that went nuclear. Paul Sperry had it on his Twitter thread. When Floyd was pulled from his SUV there was a struggle and he was cuffed. The SUV obscured the struggle but it was over very quickly. Floyd was walked over to the sidewalk where he sat down. From there he went across the street. It was clear there was something wrong as he appeared very disoriented and wasn’t walking straight. Chauvin pulled up in his SUV squad. He was the last cop on the scene. There was another struggle on the sidewalk which was the one resulting in him being taken to the ground. The extent of that one was more than the first but it too was obscured this time by Chauvin’s vehicle.

So there were two apparent struggles which would could have been resisting arrest. as well as the disorientation which lends strength to the defense. Not to sound like a shithouse lawyer like the lefties here, but two ways of putting someone out are choking and strangulation. Choking is cutting off the airflow to the brain by applying pressure to the trachea and strangling is cutting off the blood flow to the brain by applying pressure to the carotid artery. Properly applied, it should only take no more than 20 seconds to put someone out. Based on the position of his neck, it appears Floyd was being strangled possibly in addition to being choked but it’s hard to tell. Even if he was resisting arrest, if he was out after 20 seconds, he was no longer a threat, especially since he had been cuffed meaning there was no justifiable reason for an additional seven plus minutes of pressure.

My own opinion right now is that there was excessive force used and Chauvin was wrong. However, I don’t think this is as open and shut of a case as people are making it out to be for the reasons mentioned in the article.

@Greg: Yup, why did that democrat employee do that to a fellow citizen? Why was the technique allowed by the democrat run police dept, in a democrat run city in a democrat run state?
Doesnt matter if the man used drugs or if the unproven passing of fake money is true, whats true is an asshole with multiple previous complaints against him was still employed by democrats, nothing was done to curb his abuse, he wasnt the only cop doing this what about all the others?
The cop will simply be a sacrifice and his fellow officers that stood around preventing anyone from stopping the asshole. Nothing will change the democrats, they have lynching and burning in their DNA.

@Greg:

Detectable traces of a opiod in George Floyd’s dead body are no more responsible for his death than the fact that he was also found to be COVID-19 positive. He slowly died over the course of nine minutes because he was face-down on the pavement with his hands cuffed behind his back while a uniformed psycho crushed his windpipe shut using his knee.

Constitutional scholar, legal expert and now a medically trained coroner?

He did that with others looking on. We saw it on television, remember?

And we all know that everything we see on TV is the way things actually are, right? No margin of error in one’s perspective, right?

Tell me, Comrade Greggie, when will those who lost their lives due to the protests be honored like George Floyd is being honored?

As is the usual case in these events, if people waited until the facts come out, the situation takes a totally different tack. There is NO racial element and, therefore, NO justification for riots, looting, burning or the murders. In fact, there is absolutely no justification for protests. None. It was a tragic event that was the result of a botched, legal, justified arrest. Goddamn Democrats. Goddamn them all.

@Greg: But this shows that he wasn’t just “arrested for being black”. It removes another of the liberal’s favorite tropes. All the riots and looting… just because the left wanted it to happen.

@retire05, #58:

Constitutional scholar, legal expert and now a medically trained coroner?

No. Neither am I totally incapable of understanding what I saw repeatedly replayed on a video screen with my own eyes. What happened to Ahmaud Arbery a couple of months earlier seems equally clear. So what’s your problem?

And we all know that everything we see on TV is the way things actually are, right?

Most of us know that isn’t the case. Sometimes video is contrived to manipulate public perception. Sometimes video is an unblinking eye recording an event exactly as it happened. We’re now at the end of the second decade of the 21st Century. Any responsible citizen valuing truth and freedom has to be able to discern which is which, or the Great American Experiment will be over.

Donald Trump is not the standard bearer for any fundamental American principle that I value. He is a clear and present danger to most of them. Donald Trump is all about Donald Trump.

@Greg:

No. Neither am I totally incapable of understanding what I saw repeatedly replayed a video screen with my own eyes.

Well, you clearly think you are an expert in videos. Where did you take your training?

Of course, we were all told that Michael Brown was the most upstanding man in America. Remember? What’s next? How Floyd just wanted to be a pilot?

Tell me Comrade Greggie, how many have to be murdered by the “protesters” to pay for the death of one convicted felon with a rap sheet as long as your arm? Do you think CNN will televise David Dorn’s funeral?

@Greg:

What happened to Ahmaud Arbery a couple of months earlier seems equally clear. So what’s your problem?

That wasn’t racial, either. Other video showed him rummaging around the sites that had been burglarized. So, they had cause to suspect him. They simply went about it totally wrong and stupidly.

@retire05: He also swore the Veritas videos of Planned Parenthood were “edited” but it turns out that, under oath, they all admitted what they did.

Of course, we were all told that Michael Brown was the most upstanding man in America. Remember?

And many of the “protesters” were chanting, “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot”, a total racist lie. The left KNOWS their own followers are stupid; they assume everyone else is, too.

@Greg:

No. Neither am I totally incapable of understanding what I saw repeatedly replayed a video screen with my own eyes

greggie the rock, you da not have the capability to understand what you see. You wear your blue blocker glasses and have the comprehension of a rock!

What is it about the rocks? I know that my own head doesn’t rattle when I shake it.

@Greg:

What is it about the rocks? I know that my own head doesn’t rattle when I shake it.

greggie the rock is singular. just one big rock with ears!

@another vet:

Understand that I do not condone the action of the Minneapolis Police. That being said however, it is possible there may be many facts yet to be known that could shed clarity on the events leading up to the passing of Floyd.

I share with your opinion that from the video, Chauvin’s action appears to be excessive in force. I, too do not think this is an open and shut case for the prosecution.

antifa is a terrorist organization intent on destruction. The FBI and other law enforcement entities need to take these people out using any means necessary. Those having taken an oath to defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic now have their charge to destroy the people in this radical democrat affiliated terrorist Klan.

@July 4th American:

Understand that I do not condone the action of the Minneapolis Police.

I didn’t take your post to mean that at all. After I saw the security footage I said the same thing you did which was this isn’t going to be as easy of a conviction as they think it is. Unfortunately, in today’s society merely pointing out something like that gets you labeled as “racist” or some other ridiculous name.

@another vet:

I did not think so. I have real questions about the entire matter.