The White House has implicitly moved to force Speaker Pelosi’s hand to a formal vote by confirming in a letter that President Donald Trump and his administration won’t participate in the House impeachment inquiry, calling it unconstitutional and invalid, and framing it as an effort to “overturn the results of the 2016 election.”
White House counsel Pat Cipollone wrote in the letter (full letter below) that:
“You have designed and implemented your inquiry in a manner that violates fundamental fairness and constitutionally mandated due process.”
While Pelosi claims that House committees have full authority to investigate, The White House disagrees, refusing to participate in any hearings or respond to subpoenas:
“President Trump and his Administration reject your baseless, unconstitutional efforts to overturn the democratic process. Your unprecedented actions have left the President with no choice. In order to fulfill his duties to the American people, the Constitution, the Executive Branch, and all future occupants of the Office of the Presidency, President Trump and his Administration cannot participate in your partisan and unconstitutional inquiry under these circumstances.”
Because, simply put, no vote has been taken:
“Your inquiry is constitutionally invalid and a violation of due process.
In the history of our Nation, the House of Representatives has never attempted to launch an impeachment inquiry against the President without a majority of the House taking political accountability for that decision by voting to authorize such a dramatic constitutional step.”
Thus forcing Pelosi and Schiff to put names to the impeachment farce (most notably those Democrats in swing districts) or the probe dies here – and the media-sponsored narrative with it.
Most importantly, get a record of those who feel it is proper to try and impeach a President without any evidence of a crime and merely to serve a political need. The NEED is to find a substitute for having competent candidates.
October 9, 2019 – Trump Urged Top Aide to Help Giuliani Client Facing DOJ Charges
Has anyone given any recent thought to the fact that Michael Flynn was working as an undisclosed lobbyist for Turkey?
If you haven’t figured it out yet, the reason Pelosi is delaying the impeachment process is because every week they wait, another closet is found containing a skeleton.
They’re going to publicly present enough evidence and testimony make it impossible for Senate republicans to continue to pretend there’s nothing seriously amiss. Anyone paying attention already understands the level of corruption in the Trump White House, knows that laws have been and are being broken, and understands that we are already in the middle of a dangerous constitutional crisis. That’s not hyperbole. It’s the actual situation.
@Greg: It IS hyperbole… and lies.
@Greg:
More like the corruption of the Democratic Party is being revealed, and that’ can’t happen, can it?
The DNC was caught, red-handed, supplanting the democratic process to install hillary against the rising popularity of Sanders. Your party is fine installing who it wants, and any claim to cry foul on Trump is forfeit.
Sure. The Dems have heresay and media hysteria. Trump’s White House has signed docs, testimonies, affidavits, and call transcripts…you know, evidence and facts.
The impeachment inquiry is another farce, and you know it.
The fact of the matter is that the man in the White House who asserts he cannot be prosecuted for the violation of any law and cannot be investigated for any suspected criminal act, has now announced that he does not recognize the constitutional authority of Congress to investigate him or impeach him, either. That would pretty much remove any and all lawful remedies for any wrongful thing he might do. That state of affairs is totally incompatible with American values and our constitutional form of government.
Trump has broken his oath to uphold the law by ordering his appointees and subordinates to violate laws in order to obstruct investigation of his own misconduct. That could be established in a courtroom. There’s reason to suspect high crimes and misdemeanors that could actually threaten national security of the United States. He’s misusing his powers of office to block access to witnesses, testimony, and evidence that could resolve those questions.
The Trump administration’s responses are a farce. The impeachment inquiry is part of a constitutional process. It was written into our Constitution specifically for this sort of situation. Never has it been more necessary than it is now. If republicans had any sense, they’d deal with the Trump situation before the next election instead of chaining themselves to the rowing benches of a sinking ship. But that’s their decision. Those who can’t get their priorities straight and put personal gain before party and party before country deserve to go down.
@Greg: You just never get it! I think if I were as dumb as you, I would just crawl into a corner and not say anything. No matter what anyone who knows the constitution says, you keep shouting the same words like a zombie.
@Greg:
He can’t. He’s a candidate.
@Greg:
That’s why Hillary lost, and the legal establishment is currently investigating, with ample and actual evidence, the rampant corruption of the last administration and current Democrats.
I’m not sure you understand how impossible it is to defend Biden and Pelosi, so it’s sad to watch you trip on your own sword and take yourself down by yourself.
There’s enough evidence as to suspect the Dems of various wrongdoing, so their attempt to impeach — with nothing but fabricated testimony from their own people — is simple obstruction. It’s punishable by law, and now a real use of the Constitution is being used: to indict the Dems.
Keep trying little guy. Anything other than trying to find a viable candidate or platform for the American people. Right now, the majority of citizens won’t accept any Democrat Party moves to usurp control via misuse of our own laws.
@Nathan Blue:
It’s also why Hillary ran. But, people like Greg happily voted for that corrupt bag of wine and lies anyway.
It’s not that difficult when you can suspend reality and blindly believe any propaganda you are handed to repeat. THAT’S the key.
It’s like watching members of a support group reassuring one another that their collective delusions are real and that those who aren’t deluded are delusional. You’ll probably still be doing that as the ship goes down.
@Greg: You have no grounds for impeachment her “proceedings” in secret. Then we simply “trust” them to tell us what they have. You know… like all the collusion evidence.
@Greg:
We are aware. Isn’t it time for your weekly group therapy session, now that you mention it?
And it seems the White House “delusions” have affidavits, transcripts, paper trails, and are empirically accurate.
You and your party’s delusions are backed up by your own operatives masquerading as “whistle-blowers” with hearsay. One does not equal the other in legal power.
The WH is getting closer to exposing the rampant corruption of the Dems, and as their ship is going down, they are firing a few pathetic shots with no direction. A lot of corrupt people are about to go to jail, or stop getting paid. It’s natural that your flailing involves saying anything that will keep the raft afloat.
Your party is broken, and unfit to hold any kind of office. The final “shot” is coming, and that’s what you people fear.
October 10, 2019 – Two men connected to Giuliani’s Ukraine efforts charged with funneling foreign money into US election
“Following the indictment, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam B. Schiff, D-Calif., House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, D-Md., and House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Rep. Eliot L. Engel, D-N.Y., sent a letter accompanying subpoenas for Parnas and Fruman for documents pertaining to the impeachment investigation of President Trump.
“In addition to providing the subpoenaed documents, the Committees also expect your clients to appear to testify about these matters at a later date,” the letter said.”
Well, that took no time at all. How convenient for the Dems, right? One might think (if they were into conspiracy theories like Comrade Greggie) that the letter, and subpoenas were ready and waiting for the indictment to be unsealed.
Why should it take time? Giuliani and his menagerie of swamp creatures have been on the radar since the Trump carnival rolled into town. They’re all cut from the same cloth.
“During a recent interview with CNN, Clapper admitted he was simply following orders from the “commander-in-chief,” who had ordered intelligence agencies to do so (investigate the Trump campaign).
“I don’t know. I don’t think there was any wrongdoing,” Clapper said. “My main concern was with the Russians and the threat posed by the Russians to our very political fabric and ugh, the message I’m getting from all of this is apparently what we were supposed to have done was to ignore the Russian interference, ignore the Russian meddling and the threat that it poses to us and oh by the way, blown off what the then commander-in-chief, President Obama, told us to do, which was to assemble all of the reporting we could.”
Talk about carnivals. Add to Clapper, who lied to Congress, Rahm Emanuel, Eric Holder, Timothy Geitner, Susan Rice, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Valerie Jarrett, Samantha Powers (who is married to the Communist, Cass Sunstein) and all the rest of the bottom dwellers.
Well, just LOOK at who the “Presidential candidate” that was associated with the “whistle blower”. Cover up much?
@Greg: Democrats in the House should be worrying more about their own members with campaign finance, income tax and immigration fraud and stealing from charities problems. Drumming up phony indictments on those uncovering the corrupt facts on the Democrat party is… what do you call it? Oh, yeah… OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
It’s all finally unraveling. That’s why the Democrats are putting on their impeachment theater and desperately trying to silence those uncovering the massive corruption the DNC was involved in.
October 15, 2019 – READ: Lawyer says Giuliani will defy congressional subpoena
Because this shyster, too, imagines himself to above the law. The scum has truly risen to the top. They’re all effing crooks, from Trump on down. If you weren’t contaminated to begin with, you become so once you start following Trump’s lead. They are the damn swamp. This is the most corrupt presidential administration in living memory.
Trump lawyer Giuliani was paid $500,000 to consult on indicted associate’s firm
@Greg: The attorney was not on the board of directors nor a direct employee. Was not made a partner in the business that stands accused but not convicted.
The real scams are foundations no appointee or elected official should have a so called charitable foundation, that takes in any foreign donations.
But you deflect from the subject. The Executive Branch will not play in the Democrats reindeer games, one sided political scam behind closed doors smear campaign.
Air it, put it on CSPAN allow Republicans to call witnesses, and lets see the accuser this non-existent ghost, leaker/spy of classified calls.
@kitt: He was also representing the President and there is attorney client privilege.
October 15, 2019 – Bombshell testimony shows alarm over White House-Ukraine shadow diplomacy was early and deep
John Bolton might be the guy whose testimony takes Trump down. I don’t think a claim of executive privilege would keep him from talking.
@Greg: Greg, you used a CNN source! HA HA HA HA HA what a jerk.
@Greg: CNN? RU joking?
There are no solid facts in this article at all none zip what did the president do? What exactly? The language is propaganda on steriods
trying to raise the alarm, just call the white house lawyers
potentially illegal activity, which means it potentially is not
now notorious call with his counterpart in Kiev,, we have the transcript nothing there
I could list so much more, but this is empty innuendo nothing more.
@Greg: Democrats have proven themselves illegitimate lawmakers. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone resisting their illegal demands. The actual evidence shows the Democrats are who extorted and colluded and until they themselves address their own deeds, no one else should be expected to abide by their police state machinations. When laws only apply to half the people, laws don’t apply. THAT’S the Obama legacy.
Schiff’s star witness today didn’t even work in the White House when the call was made and was a 6 year Soros employee.
And Yovanavitch is found to have been ordering surveillance on US citizens.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/14/judicial-watch-reveals-surveillance-targets-requested-by-u-s-ambassador-yovanovitch-and-state-department-but-bigger-question-is-missing/
About as credible as Schiff witnesses get.
@Randy: Probably has an ABC video to go along with it.
@Randy:
Which scandal are you referring to? You have to be more specific. Kissing up to Putin? Deep-sixing the nuclear deal with Iran? Providing photo ops for the dictator of North Korea? Soliciting dirt on his political opponents from foreign governments while withholding approved military aid? Lying about the value of his assets to obtain loans? Obstruction of justice? Ordering his subordinates to break the law in order to conceal his tax forms? Ordering his subordinates to refuse to respond to congressional subpoenas? Paying off porn stars? Betraying the Kurds? Running the deficits back up to a trillion dollars per year to give corporations and the wealthiest people in the country tax cuts they didn’t need?
The man is a dirt bag. He’s wiping his posterior with the Constitution with one hand while waving the flag around with the other. He accuses his critics of his own crimes. He lies constantly. He exploits divisions, prejudices, and ignorance to further himself. He routinely engages in character assassination, targeting far better people and public servants than himself. He’s everything a president shouldn’t be, and virtually nothing that one should. He holds himself to be above the law, asserting he cannot be prosecuted, cannot be investigated, and can ignore the authority of Congress. He has turned plutocracy into the norm, bestowing de facto powers on family members who were given security clearances they should not have.
What do his supporters not understand about this?
@Greg: Have you read the constitution? Can you actually read and comprehend? Maybe you jus copy and paste. That requires a minimum of brain capacity. That also must be difficult for you, especially when you send your answers to someone else to me! DA
@Greg: You should go down that list of Democrat fantasies and provide a citation for each one, for they are all SHIT. The absolute fact is (verified by Pelosi refusing to hold a House vote on impeachment) is that NONE of you lies have developed into anything BUT lies. You are going to have to face the cold, hard fact: you are going to have to defeat Trump in an election and all your candidates are garbage. The Garbage Party.
Meanwhile, we know Hillary and the DNC colluded with Russia and Ukraine to seek help in winning (didn’t work) and Biden extorted Ukraine with loan guarantees to kill an investigation that would implicate his son. THAT is a fact. When we find real corruption, it is DEMOCRAT corrupt.
@Randy, #26:
You should have a look at Article 2, Section 4.
@Randy:
There is a reason I call him Comrade Greggie Goebbels. He doesn’t have a relationship with the truth. All he can do is parrot what outlets like CNN tell him. His constant links to far left websites are a tell.
You see, the Hill was supposed to win. The pollsters said she would, the left wing media said she would and DAMN!!, she didn’t. Instead, a guy who has never run for office before and who has never earned a dime on the taxpayer’s payroll, kicked her to the curb.
Greggie Goebbels is a Socialist, hard core. Trump, to him, is a threat to his globalist views. America First! is an antithesis to their political view. He can’t afford to admit that he is wrong. It would be crushing. So all he has is lies, and more lies. Keep repeating the lies and maybe, just maybe, someone will believe them.
@Greg: #25
Why did you reply to Randy when the quote was mine?
Take care it seems you are losing it brother. The question was in reference to just the link to the propaganda cable station you posted.
The innuendo has no substance, facts or logic. Actually quite perfect for the factless fairytale that they wove the last 3 years one that you took hook line and sinker.
@retire05, #29:
I guess they underestimated the skills of the conman and the size and gullibility of his audience. It won’t happen again. Nothing will be taken for granted.
Maybe you should send out a search party for all the people with traditional conservative values who have vanished from the forum since you and your fellow Trumpistas took over.
@Greg: and what was the violation ? There was only your perception! Perceptions are not facts. Perceptions are your dreams.
@Greg: It takes one to know one , you wouldnt know about traditional conservative values as you have none wouldnt recognize conservative if it bit you in the keester.
We voted for people that ran on the line but as soon as they got to DC they screwed us all always blaming the other Party. There for years and years fixed nothing. Trump has delivered on some of his campaign promises and trying against the headwinds of DC blowhards to deliver more.
Crazy talk, empty powerless sky screaming.
People are back to work, wages going up because there are more jobs than willing bodies to fill them. 20 thousand go to his rallies and a couple hundred protestors, you are out numbered and will be out voted. The Democrats that abandon our constitution for socialism nothing but clowns.
@kitt: Greg can not maintain a consistent thought from post to post. In one post he blames Trump for violating the constitution for violating the Constitution when he keeps asking for an impeachment vote. Now, who is violating the Constitution by pretending to impeach without following SCOUS interpretations? I guess when Greg believes there are different laws for lefties than for the rest of us it is difficult to determine what rules/laws have been broken.
@Randy: Greg doesnt have thought just programming, cable programming, complete with MK ultra CIA goons as talking heads.
@Greg:
No, they simply rejected the BIG CON of telling people the most corrupt, lying, PROVEN incompetent criminal to have ever run for the office would have made a good President. They realized that anyone that put State Department security secondary to her own personal secrecy was not fit to sit in the Oval Office, the same office where her husband stained dresses while on the taxpayer clock. They didn’t fall for a con, they absolutely saw through one.
Castro put it best last night; they HAVE to impeach Trump. They have to because they have NO possible chance of beating him in an election. What an array of idiots. I guess Soros believes Democrat candidates are cheaper by the dozen.