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Nanny G
5 years ago
There’s a very important paragraph right before the ones cited here.
It talks about how our confidence in the FISA court is dependent on the underlying fairness of the FBI.
They have a requirement to give the FISA judge ALL information, whether it condemns the defendant OR is exculpatory of him!
In this case the FBI withheld ALL exculpatory facts, including that they knew the “dossier” had never been verified!
The judge might weigh in to have these biased agents/officials fired based on their filing of a false affidavit.
kitt
5 years ago
Let us not forget Obamas personal campaign fund paid the law firm of this dossier $972,000, between April 2016 and August 2017, for legal services and he wasn’t running for office at that time.
Greg
5 years ago
The original FISA warrant was issued based upon a lot more than information appearing in the Steele document. The Steele document likely carried very little weight, in and of itself.
Carter Page became a person of interest after the FBI became aware of serious Russian efforts to recruit him in 2013. His interaction with the Russians didn’t end there.
Classified information unrelated to the Steele document that supported the need for the FISA warrant has been intentionally omitted from the Nunes memo. Essentially, the White House is selectively declassifying what is helpful to it, while tightly clamping down on everything that supports the FBI’s position. Democratic members of Nunes’s committee have been effectively silenced. They may not remain so, if this keeps up. Nor the FBI. Nor the FISA judge. At some point, someone may decide keeping quiet poses a greater threat to the security of the nation than speaking out and incurring a president’s wrath.
One thing we did learn about the FISA warrant that should give anyone with a brain pause is that it was renewed three times. Renewal required further justification. It wouldn’t have happened unless the FISA judge was convinced with evidence that intelligence critical to national security was being gathered.
MR. QUIGLEY: And if the chairman will give me a little due diligence since I have yielded, I am just reading under “investigations,” “The committee shall conduct investigations only if approved by the chair in consultation with the ranking minority member.” I am not sure when that ever happened, sir.
Q But let me ask you another question with the greatest respect. When you,as the majority, conceived of doing this memo for release to the body and to the public, the preparation. the thought-of doing it, the consultation of it, was any of this done after/during conversations or consultations with anyone in the White House?
Q Did they have any idea you were doing this? Did they talk about doing this with you? Did they suggest it? Did-you suggest it to them? Did you consult in deciding how to go forward with this before, during, and after this point right now?
Q I yield.
Nunes: I would just answer, as far as I know, no.
Q Mr. Chairman, does that mean that none of the staff members that worked for the majority had any consultation, communication at all with the White House?
Nunes: The chair is not going to entertain –
Did the White House guide construction of the memo? Nunes responds, “As far as I know, no.”
He can’t be frickin’ serious. But he is. And he’s not going to say any more about it. Maybe he’ll get asked again at some point. Under oath. In connection with an obstruction of justice investigation.
Classified information unrelated to the Steele document that supported the need for the FISA warrant has been intentionally omitted from the Nunes memo. Essentially, the White House is selectively declassifying what is helpful to it, while tightly clamping down on everything that supports the FBI’s position.
As I keep saying, if you want to know what the Democrats are up to, look at what they are accusing others of doing. No, Greg, the Republicans are not doing what the Democrats did with the phony Steele dossier when they used it to get their FISA warrants. Read the memo again, unless you did and it caused you to subconsciously make the idiotic remark you just made.
One thing we did learn about the FISA warrant that should give anyone with a brain pause is that it was renewed three times.
Committing an illegal act over and over does not make it any less illegal.
Now would be another great opportunity to point out that, so far, there has been NO evidence, NOTHING, not a shred of proof to back up your crybabies’ accusations against Trump or any of his team. NONE. Yet, it continues. Beyond any possible doubt, at least not in the mind of anyone but partisan liberals, this entire charade continues for the sake of Democrat election fortunes.
Greg
5 years ago
Now would be another great opportunity to point out that, so far, there has been NO evidence, NOTHING, not a shred of proof to back up your crybabies’ accusations against Trump or any of his team. NONE.
You don’t know what Mueller’s people have. That’s why we’re seeing increasingly desperate efforts to somehow shut them down. All of which have been unsuccessful. Now those efforts themselves could be adding to the balance of charges. The memo was a big mistake. If it was coached through channels leading back to the White House, it could prove to be a monumental mistake.
The original FISA warrant was issued based upon a lot more than information appearing in the Steele document. The Steele document likely carried very little weight, in and of itself.
So they only lied a little to a federal Judge? Top officials signed off on this tiny lie to a FEDERAL JUDGE, just so happens that is a crime, that means anything they gathered is inadmissible in court, 4th amendment.
Greg
5 years ago
So they only lied a little to a federal Judge?
What evidence is there that anyone lied to a FISA judge about anything whatsoever? He would have been appraised both of what had been reported or observed, and of the degree to which it was considered reliable.
What evidence is there that Steele lied, for that matter? He simply collected and compiled reports from a variety of sources, as he was engaged to do. Some he considered to be of great concern, but at no point did he assert they were 100 percent reliable. That said, they certainly bore looking into. They suggested a presidential candidate might be personally vulnerable to Russian pressure. You simply don’t ignore such a thing, if your function and sworn duty is guarding national security.
There’s something going beyond Steele’s report. Something that began well before. Page Carter was of interest well before. There’s sure as hell a clear outline of highly suspicious and suggestive connections and contacts between Russia and Trump campaign and administration figures. That Russia mounted a highly sophisticated operation to influence the election is unquestionable. A person would have to be nuts to think no in-depth investigation is called for.
We can be sure they have NOTHING for, if they had anything, it would have been LEAKED. That has been the prime “investigation” tactic employed by the left and they do not hesitate to leak details, even when they aren’t true.
That’s why we’re seeing increasingly desperate efforts to somehow shut them down. All of which have been unsuccessful.
We’ve yet to see a single attempt to shut down the “investigation” other than the requests to end it for obvious reasons: there are not grounds for the investigation, there never have been and, after 18 months of digging, NOTHING has surfaced that validates the abuse of resources this phony, political witch hunt consumes.
Greg
5 years ago
We can be sure they have NOTHING for, if they had anything, it would have been LEAKED.
No you can’t, because Mueller isn’t an effing politician. He can’t be bought and he can’t be intimidated. His character is above reproach. And he’s very damn good at doing what he has been tasked to do.
Scares the crap out of you, doesn’t it? It certainly scares the crap out of Donald Trump. It shouldn’t, but it clearly does.
rich wheeler
5 years ago
Nunes Gorga Steyn Gingrich Hannity—-What a bunch of Trumpist fools–They’ll go over the cliff with their leader.
Nunes way up DT’S behind—What’s he expect in return for carrying Trump’s water?
Gorka and Steyn –have you listened to these phonies with their affected accents–laughing stocks.
Hannity and Mr. Speaker COULD THEY BE ANY MORE PARTISAN?
The original FISA warrant was issued based upon a lot more than information appearing in the Steele document. The Steele document likely carried very little weight, in and of itself.
Not according to McCabe.
What evidence is there that anyone lied to a FISA judge about anything whatsoever?
They presented the dossier as EVIDENCE. They KNEW it was not verified, suspicious and purely political. The dossier is nothing but LIES.
What evidence is there that Steele lied, for that matter? He simply collected and compiled reports from a variety of sources, as he was engaged to do.
Yeah? So, what source provided him with the EVIDENCE that Trump was getting golden showers from hookers, something so outrageous and unbelievable that if not tossed outright, it should have been definitively confirmed.
There’s something going beyond Steele’s report. Something that began well before. Page Carter was of interest well before.
Yeah; Trump was developing into a campaign threat to Hillary. THAT’S what was behind the whole operation and Steele’s lies are merely a cog in that machine.
No you can’t, because Mueller isn’t an effing politician. He can’t be bought and he can’t be intimidated. His character is above reproach. And he’s very damn good at doing what he has been tasked to do.
Being a trustworthy liberal operative is not the same as having character above reproach. In fact, it pretty much rules it out. Mueller is involved in the Uranium One scandal and he has sought out specifically liberal operatives within the FBI to conduct his “investigation”. He staged a totally unnecessary raid of Manafort’s home when Manafort had been complying and cooperating fully with the “investigation”. He is beyond any shadow of a doubt playing a political game and complying with the Democrat desire to drag this “investigation” out until the 2018 elections.
Scares the crap out of you, doesn’t it? It certainly scares the crap out of Donald Trump.
Yes, it does. It truly does. Seeing fascist tactics, means and methods employed by the left in this nation to try and destroy a duly elected President is very frightening. Let me guess… it doesn’t bother you in the least, does it?
What evidence is there that Steele lied, for that matter? He simply collected and compiled reports from a variety of sources, as he was engaged to do. Some he considered to be of great concern, but at no point did he assert they were 100 percent reliable.
It was presented to a Federal Judge as cause to obtain a warrant , there fore logic determines they asserted it was the truth. Are you dense? Perhaps the FISA judge should just assume everthing they present isnt 100% accurate and just issue a warrant on that basis…really? Is that what you are trying to assert?
PhillipMarlowe
5 years ago
We know that other materials included with the dossier to obtain the warrant were left out of Nunes account, and that a point-by-point rebuttal from Democrats has been suppressed. There is plenty else left out of the memo:
There is no explanation that FISA courts set a high bar for issuance of warrants and generally require multiple pieces of evidence.
There is no acknowledgment that Steele was a respected former MI6 agent or that some of his findings were confirmed by evidence provided from other sources. (Nunes says they were “minimally” sourced.)
There is no recognition the intelligence community already had Page on its radar screen as early as 2013.
There is no indication Steele knew who had funded the dossier (which was begun for a right-leaning publication and later financed by a Democratic associate of Hillary Clinton’s campaign).
There is no proof Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein thought the dossier was unreliable.
There is no proof anything in the dossier was in fact false.
There is no proof that special counsel Robert S. Mueller III or FBI Director Christopher A. Wray (whom Trump hired) had anything to do with the application for the warrant or that it affected their work. Both were hired the year after the initial FISA warrant request.
There is no reason spelled out why Rosenstein, whom Trump later appointed, would have intentionally misled the court.
In short, other than the memo confirming that Nunes and Trump are collectively out to discredit the intelligence community and to thereby impede the investigation into the president’s alleged wrongdoing, I cannot for the life of me figure out what this proves. The media, if forthright, will explain that to Americans who must by this time be very, very confused as to why Nunes and Trump have rejected the advice of top officials who said release of the memo compromises classified information.
This appears to be the second time (the first in the Oval Office with Russian officials) that Trump has handed the Russians classified material. If Trump is not a Russian agent, he surely is acting as effectively as one.
rich wheeler
5 years ago
OBVIOUSLY the goal is to discredit Mueller.Plain and simple—you better hope Trump isn’t stupid enough to fire him.
Did DT mention today’s 600 point sell-off—I was a Merrill lynch broker– quite simply legalized gambling.
Bill... Deplorable Me
5 years ago
Wow, the FISA abuse memo must really have the Democrats nervous. It flushed out numerous Soros mouthpieces we haven’t heard from in quite a while, they having nothing to spew in light of the successes of the Trump administration and the abject and total failure of the Mueller “investigation”.
I think we’re on to something!
rich wheeler
5 years ago
DT–What a phony–discounted unemployment statistics posted under BHO–“CAN’T BELIEVE THE NUMBERS” now they’re the gospel truth
Never talked about stock market more than doubling under BHO now brags about it almost daily.
Doesn’t believe the polls having him consistently under 40% approval but an outlier poll comes along at 43% and it’s the real deal.
How anybody can believe in this phony beats me.
kitt
5 years ago
@rich wheeler:Such a Sour Sally, relax enjoy the good times while the roll, prepare yourself for lean times with any extra that might roll your way. The only polls that count are always the one we like they dont change anything. We know DT became Prez just to irritate you. They wont prosecute Hillary just to irritate me. We can both laugh at those that think Don is the second coming.
He is doing some good things, he will never please everyone.
Bill... Deplorable Me
5 years ago
@kitt: Indeed, Trump’s popularity has risen substantially since passing tax reform, almost 80% of those who watched his SOTU loved it. It’s not easy, but when the facts get through to the public, they realize how surprisingly well Trump is doing and what an unmitigated continuance of a disaster Hillary would have been.
rich wheeler
5 years ago
@kitt: Yes I agree with you that Deplorable Bill would surely be one of those we can laugh at.—as in “80% of those who watched his teleprompter speech LOVED it.” Or Trump’s “popularity has risen Substantially.”
I’m laughing–how bout you? Thanks for the reminder.
DT–Says–most watched SOTU speech EVER–Hatch says I’m a better Prez than Lincoln or Washington.
The Donald just can’t help himself—LOL
Bill... Deplorable Me
5 years ago
@kitt: Another nail in the coffin for those who live by the poll is that the chances the Democrats are salivating over in the upcoming elections are quickly fading. Based on Trump’s record of success and the Democrat’s record of whining, obstruction, attacks of the Constitution and miscalculation resulting in failure, Republican’s prospects in the mid term elections have improved about 14 points.
Perhaps the next time they lose a major election they were promised they’d win, they’ll blame extra-terrestrials. They are about to run out of earthly scapegoats.
SouthernRoots
5 years ago
If Hillary had won, the dossier issue would have faded away, as it would have served its purpose.
To believe that the Russians and Trump colluded to steal the election from Hillary, you would need to know the American Presidential Electoral process.
Winning a minimum of 270 votes in the electoral college wins the election, NOT winning the national popular vote.
By releasing the DNC emails, the Russians were apparently very good at targeting the voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and a few other battleground states, while their efforts did nothing to dissuade the voters in Washington, Oregon, New York, or California.
In order to believe that the collusion cost Hillary the election, you need to believe that the Russians know our electoral process far better than Hillary. If the Russians are more competent with our electoral process than Hillary, it is just as well that she was not elected.
Jay
5 years ago
@Greg #10 “No you can’t, because Mueller isn’t an effing politician. He can’t be bought and he can’t be intimidated. His character is above reproach. And he’s very damn good at doing what he has been tasked to do.”
I guess you must have missed this last time I posted it in response to one of your other paeans to the ‘character’ of Mr. Mueller…
”In a lengthy profile published on Friday, the Times dredged up some of Mueller’s most difficult moments throughout his career as government prosecutor and as the sixth director of the FBI
Robert Mueller…is a “gruff guy” who routinely undermined his subordinates and evaded responsibility as head of the FBI, according to several former aides and investigators
…at the U.S. Attorney’s Office, he was criticized for mishandling high-profile cases and for his treatment of government witnesses and subordinates.
One former aide went so far as to say that Mueller is “someone that can’t accept the fact that he screwed up.”
in 1979…Mueller, as head of the U.S. attorney’s special prosecutors unit, took over the case against 33 members of the Hells Angels motorcycle club charged with drug trafficking, murder, and bombings…Mueller lead a team of four prosecutors in the second trial with 11 defendants…“after four months, the jury was deadlocked, and the judge declared a mistrial.” Mueller decided not to ask for a retrial.
He led the investigation into the deadly anthrax attacks in the years after 9/11 for nearly seven years, ultimately leading in the prosecution of the wrong suspect, who later successfully sued the government for $5.8 million.
Mueller “was reluctant to publicly address the missteps” in the case.
Seven years in order to prosecute the wrong guy – who then wins a lawsuit against you (well, us taxpayers, who have to pay for his screw-ups) for almost $6 million? No sh*t he would be reluctant to publicly address HIS missteps…
Most notably, Mueller is charged with scrapping a highly-critical review of his Directorate of Intelligence, a unit that he had created at the FBI to investigate terrorism more effectively
Lastly, the Times article delves into Mueller’s unsuccessful attempt at negotiating with Russian officials to turn over Edward Snowden in 2013.
“By releasing the DNC emails, the Russians were apparently very good at targeting the voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and a few other battleground states, while their efforts did nothing to dissuade the voters in Washington, Oregon, New York, or California.
In order to believe that the collusion cost Hillary the election, you need to believe that the Russians know our electoral process far better than Hillary. If the Russians are more competent with our electoral process than Hillary, it is just as well that she was not elected.”
The numbers I’ve seen are that ‘the Russians!(TM)’ spent $247K on Twitter ads and $100K on FB ads which was apparently enough to overcome the $1.1 BILLION that Hillary spent on advertising.
Too bad the lefties can’t seem to figure out that either she was a spectacularly poor candidate with no message or policy that voters wanted to support – or she was a spectacularly incompetent candidate who couldn’t win with the overwhelming support of the media and outspending ‘the Russians!(TM)’ by more than a billion (with a ‘B’) dollars.
kitt
5 years ago
@Bill… Deplorable Me: Holy cow Bill do you know how much a SETI investigation would cost? Dwarfing the wall budget, they cant find the” I” part in their own ranks.
@rich wheeler: Sure Big Don has an ego but no worse than the last Prez, and he has in a short time accomplished some good things, imagine what could be done if some compromise from the Never Trumpers and the Leftists could be found. Paranoia of saying every flick of a pinkie is DT firing Mueller has reached new heights as they have proven Trump was bugged both before and after the election, and have to again correct his list of “lies”. Download and listen to the Mark Levin show for this past Thursday for a possible FBI time line of events, dont worry it isnt Mark, its Dan B. a former secret service agent.
Are you dense? Perhaps the FISA judge should just assume everthing they present isnt 100% accurate and just issue a warrant on that basis…really?
No, I am not at all dense. Think about it for a moment: A FISA warrant is issued to allow the gathering of evidence when the judge has been convinced reasonable cause exists to suspect a serious threat to our nation’s security.
If evidence establishing the fact of what is suspected was already in hand, there would be no need for such a warrant; the investigative phase would already be done; they’d simply file charges. At the stage the warrant is requested, all that exists are compelling reasons to suspect some specific threat may exist.
Serious concerns about Carter Page didn’t suddenly come up when Trump entered the picture. Carter Page had been the subject of a FISA warrant related to suspicious Russia connections as early as 2014—a highly significant detail that seems to have been conveniently forgotten.
kitt
5 years ago
@Greg: If they misrepresent the evidence in order to get the warrant because they are so convinced they are “saving the world” its illegal, no matter the reasoning or ideology we are a nation of laws and the 4th amendment is part of the constitution.
The Constitution is the supreme law of this Republic, not Feelings.
rich wheeler
5 years ago
That’s it??–Nunes is being rightfully derided by Repubs. and Dems. alike
Greg
5 years ago
The people who protect our national security are by nature pro-active. If they were not, we would be at the mercy of those who would like to destroy us. We have some very smart, highly sophisticated enemies, who have highly skilled and specialized instruments at their disposal. That is a fact. Their entire purpose is to detect and exploit ways around our defenses. Carter Page evidently gave the appearance of being just such an exploitable weakness, long before the Trump candidacy. When he was suddenly plugged into the Trump campaign, a big red flag instantly popped up. It should have.
“We are in the middle of what I call ‘phase two’ of our investigation, which involves other departments,” Nunes said. “Specifically the State Department and some of the involvement they had in this.”
This guy is attacking our defenders to cover a president’s backside. Do you get that? He has perverted the function of the House Intelligence Committee he heads.
Thats not the way it works thats not how any of this works.
The FBI sees a person they dont like, they obtain a warrant based on false information, then spy on this person and everyone he is associated with to find a crime. Hello banana republic, good be America.
There ARE more memos to come there is a Senate investigation, he doesnt have to hint at these things and the media has to make it sound like it isn’t normal. We paid for the investigations we have a right to know, I want the Dem memo vetted and released I want to know. When heads begin to roll on capitol hill we have the right to decide for ourselves why and not have a fairy tale painted by either side of the media.
Comey did not report to the oversight commitee he deserved to be fired he leaked classified information to the press he deserved to be fired.
another vet
5 years ago
@kitt: You know the memo struck a nerve given how all these Obamamites have suddenly come out of hiding to troll here again just like good little Party operatives should. Imagine if GWB would have weaponized the FBI and DOJ the same way in order to throw the election to McCain and if that failed, to stage a coup against Obama. Their inner Leninist instincts are on full display.
Greg
5 years ago
That’s precisely how FISA works. The republican-controlled House renewed FISA for a period of 6 years on January 11 of this year. Because they recognize it’s necessary to protect the nation.
When the suspected threat is high, a FISA judge must only be convinced there is probable cause to issue such a warrant. Not only was it issued—it was reviewed and extended on 3 subsequent occasions. There’s more involved than the Steele memo. Obviously. Serious concerns about Page arose long before the memo. He was the subject of a FISA warrant long before that, before Trump was even a candidate.
What are Trump and Nunes so afraid is going to be revealed by Mueller? Does that thought even cross people’s minds? Why have they repeatedly attacked the integrity of our nation’s own intelligence community and investigative institutions?
How far from sanity your ideology has driven you. Go look up integrity, the definition according to websters. The Constitution says what it says not what you FEEL it says.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons,
houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and
seizures, shall not be violated; and no Warrants shall issue but
upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and
particularly describing the place to be searched, and the per-
sons or things to be seized.
If it begins with a lie it is illegal. If they did not investigate and confirm the dossier to be factual, and they by oath said it was 4 frigging times they should be FIRED.
Wholly separate from Muellers investigation, no one is afraid of Mueller or what ever his mission is.
Do you wonder why they try to hide the application for warrant?
That is blatantly false, Greg. They have McCabe on an audio recording admitting that they would not have gotten the FISA warrant without the Steele dossier. In point of fact, the first request for the FISA warrant did not have the dossier included as “evidence”, and the request was denied by the FISA court. The FBI then made a second request, this time including the pack of lying propaganda – which we know now was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC – and was granted the FISA warrant.
This is far worse than Watergate. This is the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI for the political purpose of attempting to deligitimize – and remove – the duly elected President. This is political treason and government corruption beyond anything ever before seen in US history. The entire Mueller investigation is based on nothing but fraud, perpetrated by leftist elitists unwilling to accept that real Americans have rejected the anti-American tyrrany of the self-appointed political “nobility”.
Bill... Deplorable Me
5 years ago
@SouthernRoots: Well, here is what the Russians learned from the 2016 election. All they have to do (in the event of a Republican victory) is plant a few stupid and farcical notions in the minds of the people they see wearing pussy hats and screaming at the sky and they can practically shut down the entire government.
I guess you must have missed this last time I posted it in response to one of your other paeans to the ‘character’ of Mr. Mueller…
No, no, no. They’ll have none of THAT. No matter what Mueller has done in the past, now that he is helping in the project to depose Trump, he now has saint status. If he ever finds anything that might have the impression it might stick, he will be promoted to god. Much like Alec Baldwin, who got run out of show business for attacking blacks, gays, women and even little girls is now a Hero of the Far Left because he does a shoddy impression of Trump and helps promote the ignorant stereotype the left is trying to convince themselves is reality.
The numbers I’ve seen are that ‘the Russians!(TM)’ spent $247K on Twitter ads and $100K on FB ads which was apparently enough to overcome the $1.1 BILLION that Hillary spent on advertising.
Well, it gets worse than that. Of the money they spent, about half the effort was targeted at Trump.
Think about it for a moment: A FISA warrant is issued to allow the gathering of evidence when the judge has been convinced reasonable cause exists to suspect a serious threat to our nation’s security.
The memo shows the FBI lied in order to convince the court that such a threat existed. Holder did the same thing to get a wiretap warrant to spy on James Rosen. It seems to have been habitual within the Obama administration.
Serious concerns about Carter Page didn’t suddenly come up when Trump entered the picture. Carter Page had been the subject of a FISA warrant related to suspicious Russia connections as early as 2014—a highly significant detail that seems to have been conveniently forgotten.
And what did Carter Page do to raise such suspicion? He traveled to Russia and gave a speech. So, explain why Bill Clinton is not the subject of a FISA warrant and FBI investigation? OH… that’s right. He wasn’t Hillary’s opponent.
The people who protect our national security are by nature pro-active.
Yes, these guys were REALLY pro-active. Comey was so pro-active that he exonerated Hillary before they ever even began the investigation. These are the same pro-active dedicated professionals that illegally spied on Trump and are now conducting their Russian collusion witch hunt. Perhaps “pro-active” isn’t the best term to use.
We have some very smart, highly sophisticated enemies, who have highly skilled and specialized instruments at their disposal.
True. And you know what THEY are doing while our FBI and DOJ were squandering resources trying to keep a corrupt, lying incompetent out of jail so she could be President and while spying on law abiding citizens that are political opponents? They are infiltrating our national security and economy.
This guy is attacking our defenders to cover a president’s backside.
He is protecting the Constitution and the nation by exposing a socialist coup against a duly elected President. You got caught. You are exposed. The coup has failed.
The republican-controlled House renewed FISA for a period of 6 years on January 11 of this year. Because they recognize it’s necessary to protect the nation.
That tool is vital to protecting our national security and Obama abused it to further his own political agenda of weakening America.
What are Trump and Nunes so afraid is going to be revealed by Mueller?
The actual question is, why are the Democrats so afraid of Trump and feel it necessary to lie about Russian collusion (or whatever pops up next on the Wheel of Fantasy) to try and remove him from office?
And, the “probably cause” in this case? Trump’s popularity is growing, his message is striking a nerve and Hillary is a horrible person and candidate. They just worded it a little different to convince the FISA court.
Nothing in the Steele document has been conclusively demonstrated to be a lie. So what, specifically, are you referring to?
Basically, Trump’s flunkies are looking for any possible means of discrediting anything that might come out of the Mueller investigation, regardless of the damage that’s done in the process.
It isn’t going to work. The Mueller investigation will continue to completion and the findings will be released along with any supporting evidence. Trump can’t just make it all go away. He doesn’t have the authority to do so. He can try anyway, if he wants to be impeached. When all’s said and done, Congress won’t allow Trump to set himself above the law, and to diminish Congress from its Constitutional status as an equal branch of government in the process. Partisan politics will fall along the wayside before such a thing will happen.
“Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information,” the memo claims, referring to the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
Asked if that was a true representation, a source familiar with McCabe’s testimony responded: “100% not.”
A senior Democratic House intelligence committee official agreed.
“The Majority purposefully mischaracterizes both what is actually contained in the FISA applications and the testimony of former FBI Deputy McCabe before our committee in December 2017—the Minority’s memo lays out the full facts,” the official said.
That would be the Minority committee members’ dissenting memo, that Nunes’ Majority refused to declassify. I guess we’ll know who’s lying when and if the Minority memo and that portion of McCabe’s testimony supporting it are made public.
kitt
5 years ago
@Bill… Deplorable Me: The left continues to portray the victim as the perp, Police State banana Republic tactics used against a candidate for the President and when he was president elect. The set up for election tampering then a coup attempt, even when exposed they try to steam ahead. They want us to ignore obvious bias exposed by evidence ,the texts between top agents in the FBI, cronyism corruption not of the entire department just those in senior positions.Corrupt appointees using corrupt methods. We are the bad guys for saying thats not legal. We are the bad guys for simply wanting our top law enforcement department to be non political. I remember the media mocking Levin when he stated the FISA court had to be involved, right wing conspiracy theorist. Never in their mocking did they mention Levin worked in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. They skipped he is a constituional lawyer, author of best selling conservative books ect. The memo confirms what we already knew. Is that all we have got? Just wait ……………
Greg
5 years ago
Maybe you should be wondering about what it is that’s motivating such extraordinarily dangerous and destructive efforts to obstruct a Justice Department-mandated investigation into Russian election meddling. Why not simply ignore it, and let it quietly run its course?
Nothing in the Steele document has been conclusively demonstrated to be a lie.
That’s not how the legal system works, Ace. WHAT has been proven to be the TRUTH?
A senior Democratic House intelligence committee official agreed.
aka, a LIAR. Committee members at the testimony say he did.
Maybe you should be wondering about what it is that’s motivating such extraordinarily dangerous and destructive efforts to obstruct a Justice Department-mandated investigation into Russian election meddling.
The “investigation” is a political hack-job farce. The memo provides proof of a left wing coup against a duly elected President. The Russians don’t have to interfere with anything; the Democrats will gladly do it for them.
Why not simply ignore it, and let it quietly run its course?
It’s run it’s course… it’s over. The farse has been fully exposed and, now that the phony premise of the entire “investigation” has been made known, the political premise of it has failed.
What are you going to impeach him for now? Growing the economy too much?
kitt
5 years ago
@Greg: Maybe we want to oust political partisan operatives out of our justice system, no one is stopping the phoney investigation at this point. Example, political operative in the IRS Learner was ousted. They are too sloppy and stupid to cover their tracks and will be exposed and removed from our government at best prosecuted to show this behavior will never be tolerated from anyone. The my dog ate the 50K missing texts didnt work so good did it?
IG report, senate report all have yet to be spinned by the media.
Im sure you agree with the left wing “The Week” that wishes the constitution be torn up and chucked aside. http://theweek.com/articles/750816/americas-constitution-terrible-lets-throw-start-over
Pete
5 years ago
Steele has been outed as being so blatantly partisan stating his intense desire to prevent Trump from becoming president.
The Clinton campaign and the DNC actutally paid for Fusion GPS to produce the bogus Steele dossier.
McCabe’s wife received hundreds of thousands of dollars as “campaign contributions” in her run for office as a democrat.
Bruce Ohrs’ wife was an employee of Fusion GPS.
This is an astounding level of leftist corruption designed to try to remove a validly elected President.
Bill... Deplorable Me
5 years ago
@Pete: Indeed; liberals are accusing Trump of colluding with the Russians based on information they got by colluding with the Russians. Only liberals could try and pull that with a straight face.
kitt
5 years ago
@Pete: Ohrs wife was placed at the law firm to feed Steel information the coup leaders wanted in the dossier? Its a complex but sloppy web of hyper partisan corruption. After meeting with the FBI in October to deliver a ‘stack of new intelligence reports,’ the agency ultimately decided not to pay Steele an additional 50 K because he could not corroborate the information he had provided, but what the hell they use it anyway.
Greg
5 years ago
This is an astounding level of leftist corruption designed to try to remove a validly elected President.
Mueller’s investigation will ultimately reveal where the corruption is.
There’s a very important paragraph right before the ones cited here.
It talks about how our confidence in the FISA court is dependent on the underlying fairness of the FBI.
They have a requirement to give the FISA judge ALL information, whether it condemns the defendant OR is exculpatory of him!
In this case the FBI withheld ALL exculpatory facts, including that they knew the “dossier” had never been verified!
The judge might weigh in to have these biased agents/officials fired based on their filing of a false affidavit.
Let us not forget Obamas personal campaign fund paid the law firm of this dossier $972,000, between April 2016 and August 2017, for legal services and he wasn’t running for office at that time.
The original FISA warrant was issued based upon a lot more than information appearing in the Steele document. The Steele document likely carried very little weight, in and of itself.
Carter Page became a person of interest after the FBI became aware of serious Russian efforts to recruit him in 2013. His interaction with the Russians didn’t end there.
Classified information unrelated to the Steele document that supported the need for the FISA warrant has been intentionally omitted from the Nunes memo. Essentially, the White House is selectively declassifying what is helpful to it, while tightly clamping down on everything that supports the FBI’s position. Democratic members of Nunes’s committee have been effectively silenced. They may not remain so, if this keeps up. Nor the FBI. Nor the FISA judge. At some point, someone may decide keeping quiet poses a greater threat to the security of the nation than speaking out and incurring a president’s wrath.
One thing we did learn about the FISA warrant that should give anyone with a brain pause is that it was renewed three times. Renewal required further justification. It wouldn’t have happened unless the FISA judge was convinced with evidence that intelligence critical to national security was being gathered.
Unclassified transcript of the committee discussion regarding release of the Nunes memo.
Refer to the exchange on Page 23:
Did the White House guide construction of the memo? Nunes responds, “As far as I know, no.”
He can’t be frickin’ serious. But he is. And he’s not going to say any more about it. Maybe he’ll get asked again at some point. Under oath. In connection with an obstruction of justice investigation.
This is how cover ups come unraveled.
@Greg:
As I keep saying, if you want to know what the Democrats are up to, look at what they are accusing others of doing. No, Greg, the Republicans are not doing what the Democrats did with the phony Steele dossier when they used it to get their FISA warrants. Read the memo again, unless you did and it caused you to subconsciously make the idiotic remark you just made.
Committing an illegal act over and over does not make it any less illegal.
Now would be another great opportunity to point out that, so far, there has been NO evidence, NOTHING, not a shred of proof to back up your crybabies’ accusations against Trump or any of his team. NONE. Yet, it continues. Beyond any possible doubt, at least not in the mind of anyone but partisan liberals, this entire charade continues for the sake of Democrat election fortunes.
You don’t know what Mueller’s people have. That’s why we’re seeing increasingly desperate efforts to somehow shut them down. All of which have been unsuccessful. Now those efforts themselves could be adding to the balance of charges. The memo was a big mistake. If it was coached through channels leading back to the White House, it could prove to be a monumental mistake.
@Greg:
So they only lied a little to a federal Judge? Top officials signed off on this tiny lie to a FEDERAL JUDGE, just so happens that is a crime, that means anything they gathered is inadmissible in court, 4th amendment.
What evidence is there that anyone lied to a FISA judge about anything whatsoever? He would have been appraised both of what had been reported or observed, and of the degree to which it was considered reliable.
What evidence is there that Steele lied, for that matter? He simply collected and compiled reports from a variety of sources, as he was engaged to do. Some he considered to be of great concern, but at no point did he assert they were 100 percent reliable. That said, they certainly bore looking into. They suggested a presidential candidate might be personally vulnerable to Russian pressure. You simply don’t ignore such a thing, if your function and sworn duty is guarding national security.
There’s something going beyond Steele’s report. Something that began well before. Page Carter was of interest well before. There’s sure as hell a clear outline of highly suspicious and suggestive connections and contacts between Russia and Trump campaign and administration figures. That Russia mounted a highly sophisticated operation to influence the election is unquestionable. A person would have to be nuts to think no in-depth investigation is called for.
@Greg:
We can be sure they have NOTHING for, if they had anything, it would have been LEAKED. That has been the prime “investigation” tactic employed by the left and they do not hesitate to leak details, even when they aren’t true.
We’ve yet to see a single attempt to shut down the “investigation” other than the requests to end it for obvious reasons: there are not grounds for the investigation, there never have been and, after 18 months of digging, NOTHING has surfaced that validates the abuse of resources this phony, political witch hunt consumes.
No you can’t, because Mueller isn’t an effing politician. He can’t be bought and he can’t be intimidated. His character is above reproach. And he’s very damn good at doing what he has been tasked to do.
Scares the crap out of you, doesn’t it? It certainly scares the crap out of Donald Trump. It shouldn’t, but it clearly does.
Nunes Gorga Steyn Gingrich Hannity—-What a bunch of Trumpist fools–They’ll go over the cliff with their leader.
Nunes way up DT’S behind—What’s he expect in return for carrying Trump’s water?
Gorka and Steyn –have you listened to these phonies with their affected accents–laughing stocks.
Hannity and Mr. Speaker COULD THEY BE ANY MORE PARTISAN?
@Greg:
Not according to McCabe.
They presented the dossier as EVIDENCE. They KNEW it was not verified, suspicious and purely political. The dossier is nothing but LIES.
Yeah? So, what source provided him with the EVIDENCE that Trump was getting golden showers from hookers, something so outrageous and unbelievable that if not tossed outright, it should have been definitively confirmed.
Yeah; Trump was developing into a campaign threat to Hillary. THAT’S what was behind the whole operation and Steele’s lies are merely a cog in that machine.
Being a trustworthy liberal operative is not the same as having character above reproach. In fact, it pretty much rules it out. Mueller is involved in the Uranium One scandal and he has sought out specifically liberal operatives within the FBI to conduct his “investigation”. He staged a totally unnecessary raid of Manafort’s home when Manafort had been complying and cooperating fully with the “investigation”. He is beyond any shadow of a doubt playing a political game and complying with the Democrat desire to drag this “investigation” out until the 2018 elections.
Yes, it does. It truly does. Seeing fascist tactics, means and methods employed by the left in this nation to try and destroy a duly elected President is very frightening. Let me guess… it doesn’t bother you in the least, does it?
@Greg: #8
It was presented to a Federal Judge as cause to obtain a warrant , there fore logic determines they asserted it was the truth. Are you dense? Perhaps the FISA judge should just assume everthing they present isnt 100% accurate and just issue a warrant on that basis…really? Is that what you are trying to assert?
OBVIOUSLY the goal is to discredit Mueller.Plain and simple—you better hope Trump isn’t stupid enough to fire him.
Did DT mention today’s 600 point sell-off—I was a Merrill lynch broker– quite simply legalized gambling.
Wow, the FISA abuse memo must really have the Democrats nervous. It flushed out numerous Soros mouthpieces we haven’t heard from in quite a while, they having nothing to spew in light of the successes of the Trump administration and the abject and total failure of the Mueller “investigation”.
I think we’re on to something!
DT–What a phony–discounted unemployment statistics posted under BHO–“CAN’T BELIEVE THE NUMBERS” now they’re the gospel truth
Never talked about stock market more than doubling under BHO now brags about it almost daily.
Doesn’t believe the polls having him consistently under 40% approval but an outlier poll comes along at 43% and it’s the real deal.
How anybody can believe in this phony beats me.
@rich wheeler:Such a Sour Sally, relax enjoy the good times while the roll, prepare yourself for lean times with any extra that might roll your way. The only polls that count are always the one we like they dont change anything. We know DT became Prez just to irritate you. They wont prosecute Hillary just to irritate me. We can both laugh at those that think Don is the second coming.
He is doing some good things, he will never please everyone.
@kitt: Indeed, Trump’s popularity has risen substantially since passing tax reform, almost 80% of those who watched his SOTU loved it. It’s not easy, but when the facts get through to the public, they realize how surprisingly well Trump is doing and what an unmitigated continuance of a disaster Hillary would have been.
@kitt: Yes I agree with you that Deplorable Bill would surely be one of those we can laugh at.—as in “80% of those who watched his teleprompter speech LOVED it.” Or Trump’s “popularity has risen Substantially.”
I’m laughing–how bout you? Thanks for the reminder.
DT–Says–most watched SOTU speech EVER–Hatch says I’m a better Prez than Lincoln or Washington.
The Donald just can’t help himself—LOL
@kitt: Another nail in the coffin for those who live by the poll is that the chances the Democrats are salivating over in the upcoming elections are quickly fading. Based on Trump’s record of success and the Democrat’s record of whining, obstruction, attacks of the Constitution and miscalculation resulting in failure, Republican’s prospects in the mid term elections have improved about 14 points.
Perhaps the next time they lose a major election they were promised they’d win, they’ll blame extra-terrestrials. They are about to run out of earthly scapegoats.
If Hillary had won, the dossier issue would have faded away, as it would have served its purpose.
To believe that the Russians and Trump colluded to steal the election from Hillary, you would need to know the American Presidential Electoral process.
Winning a minimum of 270 votes in the electoral college wins the election, NOT winning the national popular vote.
By releasing the DNC emails, the Russians were apparently very good at targeting the voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and a few other battleground states, while their efforts did nothing to dissuade the voters in Washington, Oregon, New York, or California.
In order to believe that the collusion cost Hillary the election, you need to believe that the Russians know our electoral process far better than Hillary. If the Russians are more competent with our electoral process than Hillary, it is just as well that she was not elected.
I guess you must have missed this last time I posted it in response to one of your other paeans to the ‘character’ of Mr. Mueller…
Seven years in order to prosecute the wrong guy – who then wins a lawsuit against you (well, us taxpayers, who have to pay for his screw-ups) for almost $6 million? No sh*t he would be reluctant to publicly address HIS missteps…
YMMV, but I’m not sure that sounds like someone who is ‘damn good’ at what he does, let alone someone who’s ‘character is above reproach’.
More about Mr. Mueller’s abilities and character…
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-16/special-prosecutor-mueller-political-hack
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/trumprussia_not_muellers_first_botched_investigation.html
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/conspiracy-of-silence-about-mueller/
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/12/mueller-is-disaster.html
@SouthernRoots:
The numbers I’ve seen are that ‘the Russians!(TM)’ spent $247K on Twitter ads and $100K on FB ads which was apparently enough to overcome the $1.1 BILLION that Hillary spent on advertising.
Too bad the lefties can’t seem to figure out that either she was a spectacularly poor candidate with no message or policy that voters wanted to support – or she was a spectacularly incompetent candidate who couldn’t win with the overwhelming support of the media and outspending ‘the Russians!(TM)’ by more than a billion (with a ‘B’) dollars.
@Bill… Deplorable Me: Holy cow Bill do you know how much a SETI investigation would cost? Dwarfing the wall budget, they cant find the” I” part in their own ranks.
@rich wheeler: Sure Big Don has an ego but no worse than the last Prez, and he has in a short time accomplished some good things, imagine what could be done if some compromise from the Never Trumpers and the Leftists could be found. Paranoia of saying every flick of a pinkie is DT firing Mueller has reached new heights as they have proven Trump was bugged both before and after the election, and have to again correct his list of “lies”. Download and listen to the Mark Levin show for this past Thursday for a possible FBI time line of events, dont worry it isnt Mark, its Dan B. a former secret service agent.
@kitt, #13:
No, I am not at all dense. Think about it for a moment: A FISA warrant is issued to allow the gathering of evidence when the judge has been convinced reasonable cause exists to suspect a serious threat to our nation’s security.
If evidence establishing the fact of what is suspected was already in hand, there would be no need for such a warrant; the investigative phase would already be done; they’d simply file charges. At the stage the warrant is requested, all that exists are compelling reasons to suspect some specific threat may exist.
Serious concerns about Carter Page didn’t suddenly come up when Trump entered the picture. Carter Page had been the subject of a FISA warrant related to suspicious Russia connections as early as 2014—a highly significant detail that seems to have been conveniently forgotten.
@Greg: If they misrepresent the evidence in order to get the warrant because they are so convinced they are “saving the world” its illegal, no matter the reasoning or ideology we are a nation of laws and the 4th amendment is part of the constitution.
The Constitution is the supreme law of this Republic, not Feelings.
That’s it??–Nunes is being rightfully derided by Repubs. and Dems. alike
The people who protect our national security are by nature pro-active. If they were not, we would be at the mercy of those who would like to destroy us. We have some very smart, highly sophisticated enemies, who have highly skilled and specialized instruments at their disposal. That is a fact. Their entire purpose is to detect and exploit ways around our defenses. Carter Page evidently gave the appearance of being just such an exploitable weakness, long before the Trump candidacy. When he was suddenly plugged into the Trump campaign, a big red flag instantly popped up. It should have.
Nunes hints more memos to come
This guy is attacking our defenders to cover a president’s backside. Do you get that? He has perverted the function of the House Intelligence Committee he heads.
@Greg:
Thats not the way it works thats not how any of this works.
The FBI sees a person they dont like, they obtain a warrant based on false information, then spy on this person and everyone he is associated with to find a crime. Hello banana republic, good be America.
There ARE more memos to come there is a Senate investigation, he doesnt have to hint at these things and the media has to make it sound like it isn’t normal. We paid for the investigations we have a right to know, I want the Dem memo vetted and released I want to know. When heads begin to roll on capitol hill we have the right to decide for ourselves why and not have a fairy tale painted by either side of the media.
Comey did not report to the oversight commitee he deserved to be fired he leaked classified information to the press he deserved to be fired.
@kitt: You know the memo struck a nerve given how all these Obamamites have suddenly come out of hiding to troll here again just like good little Party operatives should. Imagine if GWB would have weaponized the FBI and DOJ the same way in order to throw the election to McCain and if that failed, to stage a coup against Obama. Their inner Leninist instincts are on full display.
That’s precisely how FISA works. The republican-controlled House renewed FISA for a period of 6 years on January 11 of this year. Because they recognize it’s necessary to protect the nation.
When the suspected threat is high, a FISA judge must only be convinced there is probable cause to issue such a warrant. Not only was it issued—it was reviewed and extended on 3 subsequent occasions. There’s more involved than the Steele memo. Obviously. Serious concerns about Page arose long before the memo. He was the subject of a FISA warrant long before that, before Trump was even a candidate.
What are Trump and Nunes so afraid is going to be revealed by Mueller? Does that thought even cross people’s minds? Why have they repeatedly attacked the integrity of our nation’s own intelligence community and investigative institutions?
@Greg:
How far from sanity your ideology has driven you. Go look up integrity, the definition according to websters. The Constitution says what it says not what you FEEL it says.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons,
houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and
seizures, shall not be violated; and no Warrants shall issue but
upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and
particularly describing the place to be searched, and the per-
sons or things to be seized.
If it begins with a lie it is illegal. If they did not investigate and confirm the dossier to be factual, and they by oath said it was 4 frigging times they should be FIRED.
Wholly separate from Muellers investigation, no one is afraid of Mueller or what ever his mission is.
Do you wonder why they try to hide the application for warrant?
@Greg:
That is blatantly false, Greg. They have McCabe on an audio recording admitting that they would not have gotten the FISA warrant without the Steele dossier. In point of fact, the first request for the FISA warrant did not have the dossier included as “evidence”, and the request was denied by the FISA court. The FBI then made a second request, this time including the pack of lying propaganda – which we know now was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC – and was granted the FISA warrant.
This is far worse than Watergate. This is the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI for the political purpose of attempting to deligitimize – and remove – the duly elected President. This is political treason and government corruption beyond anything ever before seen in US history. The entire Mueller investigation is based on nothing but fraud, perpetrated by leftist elitists unwilling to accept that real Americans have rejected the anti-American tyrrany of the self-appointed political “nobility”.
@SouthernRoots: Well, here is what the Russians learned from the 2016 election. All they have to do (in the event of a Republican victory) is plant a few stupid and farcical notions in the minds of the people they see wearing pussy hats and screaming at the sky and they can practically shut down the entire government.
@Jay:
No, no, no. They’ll have none of THAT. No matter what Mueller has done in the past, now that he is helping in the project to depose Trump, he now has saint status. If he ever finds anything that might have the impression it might stick, he will be promoted to god. Much like Alec Baldwin, who got run out of show business for attacking blacks, gays, women and even little girls is now a Hero of the Far Left because he does a shoddy impression of Trump and helps promote the ignorant stereotype the left is trying to convince themselves is reality.
Well, it gets worse than that. Of the money they spent, about half the effort was targeted at Trump.
@Greg:
The memo shows the FBI lied in order to convince the court that such a threat existed. Holder did the same thing to get a wiretap warrant to spy on James Rosen. It seems to have been habitual within the Obama administration.
And what did Carter Page do to raise such suspicion? He traveled to Russia and gave a speech. So, explain why Bill Clinton is not the subject of a FISA warrant and FBI investigation? OH… that’s right. He wasn’t Hillary’s opponent.
Yes, these guys were REALLY pro-active. Comey was so pro-active that he exonerated Hillary before they ever even began the investigation. These are the same pro-active dedicated professionals that illegally spied on Trump and are now conducting their Russian collusion witch hunt. Perhaps “pro-active” isn’t the best term to use.
True. And you know what THEY are doing while our FBI and DOJ were squandering resources trying to keep a corrupt, lying incompetent out of jail so she could be President and while spying on law abiding citizens that are political opponents? They are infiltrating our national security and economy.
He is protecting the Constitution and the nation by exposing a socialist coup against a duly elected President. You got caught. You are exposed. The coup has failed.
That tool is vital to protecting our national security and Obama abused it to further his own political agenda of weakening America.
The actual question is, why are the Democrats so afraid of Trump and feel it necessary to lie about Russian collusion (or whatever pops up next on the Wheel of Fantasy) to try and remove him from office?
@kitt:
And, the “probably cause” in this case? Trump’s popularity is growing, his message is striking a nerve and Hillary is a horrible person and candidate. They just worded it a little different to convince the FISA court.
@kitt, #33:
Nothing in the Steele document has been conclusively demonstrated to be a lie. So what, specifically, are you referring to?
Basically, Trump’s flunkies are looking for any possible means of discrediting anything that might come out of the Mueller investigation, regardless of the damage that’s done in the process.
It isn’t going to work. The Mueller investigation will continue to completion and the findings will be released along with any supporting evidence. Trump can’t just make it all go away. He doesn’t have the authority to do so. He can try anyway, if he wants to be impeached. When all’s said and done, Congress won’t allow Trump to set himself above the law, and to diminish Congress from its Constitutional status as an equal branch of government in the process. Partisan politics will fall along the wayside before such a thing will happen.
Sources: Devin Nunes Memo Is ‘100%’ Wrong About Andrew McCabe and Steele Dossier
That would be the Minority committee members’ dissenting memo, that Nunes’ Majority refused to declassify. I guess we’ll know who’s lying when and if the Minority memo and that portion of McCabe’s testimony supporting it are made public.
@Bill… Deplorable Me: The left continues to portray the victim as the perp, Police State banana Republic tactics used against a candidate for the President and when he was president elect. The set up for election tampering then a coup attempt, even when exposed they try to steam ahead. They want us to ignore obvious bias exposed by evidence ,the texts between top agents in the FBI, cronyism corruption not of the entire department just those in senior positions.Corrupt appointees using corrupt methods. We are the bad guys for saying thats not legal. We are the bad guys for simply wanting our top law enforcement department to be non political. I remember the media mocking Levin when he stated the FISA court had to be involved, right wing conspiracy theorist. Never in their mocking did they mention Levin worked in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. They skipped he is a constituional lawyer, author of best selling conservative books ect. The memo confirms what we already knew. Is that all we have got? Just wait ……………
Maybe you should be wondering about what it is that’s motivating such extraordinarily dangerous and destructive efforts to obstruct a Justice Department-mandated investigation into Russian election meddling. Why not simply ignore it, and let it quietly run its course?
@Greg:
That’s not how the legal system works, Ace. WHAT has been proven to be the TRUTH?
aka, a LIAR. Committee members at the testimony say he did.
The “investigation” is a political hack-job farce. The memo provides proof of a left wing coup against a duly elected President. The Russians don’t have to interfere with anything; the Democrats will gladly do it for them.
It’s run it’s course… it’s over. The farse has been fully exposed and, now that the phony premise of the entire “investigation” has been made known, the political premise of it has failed.
What are you going to impeach him for now? Growing the economy too much?
@Greg: Maybe we want to oust political partisan operatives out of our justice system, no one is stopping the phoney investigation at this point. Example, political operative in the IRS Learner was ousted. They are too sloppy and stupid to cover their tracks and will be exposed and removed from our government at best prosecuted to show this behavior will never be tolerated from anyone. The my dog ate the 50K missing texts didnt work so good did it?
IG report, senate report all have yet to be spinned by the media.
Im sure you agree with the left wing “The Week” that wishes the constitution be torn up and chucked aside. http://theweek.com/articles/750816/americas-constitution-terrible-lets-throw-start-over
Steele has been outed as being so blatantly partisan stating his intense desire to prevent Trump from becoming president.
The Clinton campaign and the DNC actutally paid for Fusion GPS to produce the bogus Steele dossier.
McCabe’s wife received hundreds of thousands of dollars as “campaign contributions” in her run for office as a democrat.
Bruce Ohrs’ wife was an employee of Fusion GPS.
This is an astounding level of leftist corruption designed to try to remove a validly elected President.
@Pete: Indeed; liberals are accusing Trump of colluding with the Russians based on information they got by colluding with the Russians. Only liberals could try and pull that with a straight face.
@Pete: Ohrs wife was placed at the law firm to feed Steel information the coup leaders wanted in the dossier? Its a complex but sloppy web of hyper partisan corruption. After meeting with the FBI in October to deliver a ‘stack of new intelligence reports,’ the agency ultimately decided not to pay Steele an additional 50 K because he could not corroborate the information he had provided, but what the hell they use it anyway.
Mueller’s investigation will ultimately reveal where the corruption is.
Where are your tax returns, Mr. Trump?
@Greg:
The sign of desperation.