DOJ inspector general found Carter Page FISA extensions were illegally obtained

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The Justice Department inspector general has determined the three Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant extensions against onetime Trump campaign aide Carter Page were illegally obtained, attorney Joe diGenova said on Thursday.

In an investigation that began last year, Inspector General Michael Horowitz is examining the Justice Department’s and FBI’s compliance with legal requirements as well as policies and procedures in applications filed with the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court related to Page as part of a larger counterintelligence probe into Trump’s campaign.

The inspector general inquiry is expected to be completed in either late May or June, and diGenova, a former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, said Democrats on Capitol Hill are working overtime to investigate and discredit President Trump.

“They are doing that as a diversionary tactic away from the inevitable conclusions of the DOJ inspector general, Michael Horowitz, who, by the way, we have learned has concluded that the final three FISA extensions were illegally obtained,” diGenova said on Fox Business. “The only question now is whether or not the first FISA was illegally obtained.”

He pointed to memos, obtained by conservative group Citizens United through open-records litigation, that suggest the FBI might have misled the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in the first warrant application about an unverified dossier.

Horowitz “apparently, as a result of those disclosures … which he was unaware of — the bureau hid those memos from Horowitz — as a result of that they’re doing additional work on the first FISA. It may be that all four FISAs will have been obtained illegally,” diGenova said.

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We are told its normal to accept wild unverified rumor created on behalf of a criminally insane, old, power hungry female politician to get a spying warrant on an American citizen. (Per James Comey at his CNN town hall)https://www.myonlineworld.org/alert-comey-thinks-its-totally-normal-to-plant-spies-in.
Of course when you have that warrant you can also spy on every person the citizen has contact with, expanding the spying like a spider web to spy on more citizens. Its Ponzi or pyramid scheme spying.
Oh and secret surveillance isnt to be called spying. (except in the dictionary)
CRIMINALLY INSANE. depicting an accused person that is deemed to be suffering from cognitive illness or fault which frees them of lawful accountability for the unlawful behaviors they supposedly engaged in.
I guess we can add Comey and much of the Former FBI involved in spygate.

Obama spied and the media lied, plain and simple.

Obviously to resolve this, we need to see Trump’s taxes for the past 20 years… just to be sure there was no spying back then. Because, the only person to suspect of wrongdoing is Trump.

We MUST also find out just how Trump obtained WORKING PAPERS when he first started to work (age 13-14 ).

Joe diGenova doesn’t know a damn thing about what Inspector General Horowitz has determined. Horowitz hasn’t reported anything; diGenova has no connection with the inquiry; in fact, diGenova has had no official connection with the federal government in nearly 25 years. (Unless you want to count his successful effort to convince Trump to pardon Scooter Libby of perjury.)

What he says in the Washington Examiner article is just something he’s saying. Any attentive reader might notice that they provide no clue whatsoever how it is he that he’s supposed to know this. Perhaps the following is supposed to cover that deficiency?

Horowitz “apparently, as a result of those disclosures … which he was unaware of — the bureau hid those memos from Horowitz — as a result of that they’re doing additional work on the first FISA. It may be that all four FISAs will have been obtained illegally,” diGenova said.

Say what? It may be that diGenova hasn’t got a frickin’ clue what he’s babbling about.

@Greg: Might be just an opinion piece, we know they would not have obtained the warrant with out the Dossier as Mc Cabe said.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/peoplespoliticsiii/andrew-mccabe-admits-without
As the Dossier was not verified as true, as testified by Comey https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/420408-comeys-confession-dossier-not-verified.
Then they lied to the Court perjury to the court is illegal.
We have all put this together. This dude is just late to the party wants his 5 minutes in the spotlight.
We are all sure the IG knows this information too.
If they think there should be no lawful accountability for their actions they are by definition criminally insane.

And heeeerz Greggie.
Right on cue.

It may be that diGenova hasn’t got a frickin’ clue what he’s babbling about.

You can bet diGenova knows more than Greggie, no may be about it.

The man knows nothing.

Horowitz “apparently, as a result of those disclosures … which he was unaware of — the bureau hid those memos from Horowitz — as a result of that they’re doing additional work on the first FISA. It may be that all four FISAs will have been obtained illegally,” diGenova said.

@Greg: His previous position in the government means he can figure things out. Just as Mark Levin did with only liberal leaning news reports, they called him a conspiracy guy but everything he said turned out to be true spying , unmasking, FISA warrant and soft coup attempt.
You are correct no one is above the law including those we trusted to uphold it at the highest levels the DOJ and CIA were in on it also.
Evergreen isnt out of the woods yet.
Renegade may be swept up in these investigations as well.
Looks like Muse can relax, they did not find evidence to charge Mogul.

@Greg:

Joe diGenova doesn’t know a damn thing about what Inspector General Horowitz has determined.

How do you know? The habit of leaking was established under YOUR people and all leaks have not yet been rooted out and stopped. However, this information aligns nicely with what we already know about the FISA reports and the flimsy, unverified tripe used to secure the warrants.

What he says in the Washington Examiner article is just something he’s saying. Any attentive reader might notice that they provide no clue whatsoever how it is he that he’s supposed to know this.

Perhaps he is using “unnamed sources”, those which you have always placed such high trust in.

You what is about to happen? The entire coup is about to come crashing down around their seditious ears. Aren’t you happy the attack on our government is almost over and failed?

@Deplorable Me:

How do you know?

He doesn’t. Greggie is just blowing hot air again.

The habit of leaking was established under YOUR people and all leaks have not yet been rooted out and stopped.

Oh, but wait…………..didn’t Greggie tell us that there were never any leaks from the Mueller team even after I gave him a link that itemized the leaks? The clown’s delusional.

However, this information aligns nicely with what we already know about the FISA reports and the flimsy, unverified tripe used to secure the warrants.

Add to it this article:
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/442944-fbis-steele-story-falls-apart-false-intel-and-media-contacts-were-flagged

You what is about to happen?

The whole crooked set up under the Obama administration is starting to unravel like a cheap sweater, row by row. Comey knows it, Brennan knows it (and hasn’t he been quite lately?), McCabe is under investigation, Strozk, Page, even the golden boy of the left, Mueller, has things he is going to have to answer for. And a year from now, Greggie Goebbels will still be claiming that Trump colluded with the Russians and obstructed Mueller’s report.

@retire05: The huge difference is we want solid evidence, and a fair trial before execution for high treason.

@kitt:

before execution for high treason.

Who are you hoping will be executed here?

@Michael: Only those that are found guilty of high treason. We have technically been at war since 911, trying to overthrow a duly elected President and commander in chief in war time is high treason.
Brennan accused Trump of treason for simply meeting with another head of state.
Treason carries a death penalty, as the coup side used the term first they need it slammed back in their faces.

@kitt:

We have technically been at war since 911, trying to overthrow a duly elected President and commander in chief in war time is high treason.

That’s quite a stretch.

@Michael:

That’s quite a stretch.

Collusion was a greater stretch and you gobbled that up.

@Michael: I really think shipping our men armed and having them returned in a flagged draped coffins or missing limbs is a damn good indication we are at war. I really discount your feelings that its a stretch.
Perhaps you could fly to a hot zone and ask the people shooting at or setting IEDs if they are at war. I think I have heard the phrase war on terrorism.
If the investigations determine an attempted coup with solid evidence they made efforts to get our President impeached on false evidence that seems to me to be a coup.

@Deplorable Me, #10:

How do you know?

What I know is that the quoted paragraph from the article is virtually incoherent, and that it’s the closest that either the Washington Examiner or diGenova come to stating how he supposedly knows. From that I deduce he knows nothing.

diGenova is another version of Rudy Giuliani. They perform the same function. They both interject total bullshit into the public consciousness that’s calculated to confuse and act as a smokescreen. I know that because I can observe it for myself.

@kitt:

that seems to me to be a coup

I, in turn, discount your feeling that there was an attempted coup.

I was actually referring to the idea that the kind of conflict we’re engaged in now makes anything done to Trump worse than it would otherwise be.

If you’re always at war, then war stops being an exacerbating circumstance.

@Deplorable Me:

Collusion was a greater stretch and you gobbled that up.

We disagree.

@Greg: Let’s say, simply for the sake of discussion, that diGenova is, in fact, on the receiving end of some kind of leak from the IG’s office. What are the chances that Deplorable Me will get outraged over that leak? Do you think he’ll gloss over it because the leak is about something that he likes? Do you further think that he’ll say some version of, “Well, you guys did it first?”

@Michael, #21:

I would guess the chances of outrage are somewhere between zero and none.

@Michael: #19 Its more than a feeling, there is actually testimony and evidence that leads to the conclusion of a coup attempt, not a pile of nasty rumors collected by someone who hates the target then used as evidence for spying without verification.

@Michael:

I, in turn, discount your feeling that there was an attempted coup.

There was, and continues to be, an attempt at a coup d’état against the current President. For someone who claims to teach History, you seem to know little about what actual historical events have taught us as examples.

@retire05: Michael has told us he keep politics out of his teaching, so that boils it down to dates events and people with no motives causes or reasons….boring.

@retire05:

For someone who claims to teach History, you seem to know little about what actual historical events have taught us as examples.

So it goes.

For someone who claims to value the Constitution, you’re mighty relaxed about the Executive Branch putting itself above the other two branches and ignoring the system of checks and balances.

@kitt:

Michael has told us he keep politics out of his teaching

I keep my politics out of my teaching. Would you rather I interrupted a lesson about the artists of the Italian Renaissance with a lecture about the Emoluments Clause of the United States Constitution?

@Michael: Shouldnt that subject be in art class?
The congress seems to be doing exactly what you are accusing the Executive branch of doing. It is they who need to be put in check, maybe they should legislate.
the speaker of the house is out of her mind https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/house-speaker-nancy-pelosi-we-are-superior-branch-government

@Michael:

For someone who claims to value the Constitution, you’re mighty relaxed about the Executive Branch putting itself above the other two branches and ignoring the system of checks and balances.

Yes, I do value the Constitution of the United States and I am of the orginalist mindsel. But it is difficult to even discuss the Constitution, and its meaning, with someone who admits to having only recently read it.

Appellate court federal judges issuing universal rulings is unconstitutional. What Nadler is doing is unconstitutional. The Mueller investigation was unconstitutional. Spying on an American citizen without probable cause is unconstitutional. Demanding Trump’s income tax returns is unconstitutional.

But then, you are not familiar enough with that document to even discuss the issues and the violations there of.

@kitt:

Shouldnt that subject be in art class?

It’s not. It’s in history class.

Why didn’t you answer the question?

@retire05:

But then, you are not familiar enough with that document to even discuss the issues and the violations therein.

Why are you even bothering to play that game?

@Michael: You obviously dont know the subject well enough to teach any part of the constitution. I was taught about the artists by my art teacher 9th grade, We never went into artists in history class. Different teachers different era, higher graduation rates back then.
The intellectual basis of the Renaissance was its version of humanism a form of politics but dont instruct them on that just memorize a few artists names.

@Michael:

Why are you even bothering to play that game?

It is you, Michael, who likes to play games.

Although I do think it reprehensible that someone who is tasked with the education of young minds (for how many years now? You said but I don’t remember) only recently read the Constitution of the United States. Obviously, California has extremely low standards for teachers.

@kitt:

humanism a form of politics

Sweet Jesus, please don’t try to say something intelligent about the Renaissance.

@retire05:

only recently read the Constitution of the United States.

That’s your game. Why are you playing it?

@Michael: @Michael:

Sweet Jesus, please don’t try to say something intelligent about the Renaissance.

We wouldnt ever expect you to.

@Michael:

You were the one who said they had only recently read the Constitution, not me.
Are you denying you said that?

THAT, is exactly the kind of games you play.

You are not mature enough to teach even a kindergartner. A disgrace to the profession if there ever was one.

You seem to have no other understanding of the Emoluments Clause other than what your buddy, Greggie Goebbels, spouts on these pages.

@kitt:

We wouldnt ever expect you to.

Then go ahead and pull your kid out of my class.

@retire05:

You are not mature enough to teach even a kindergartner. A disgrace to the profession if there ever was one.

I hear that all the time.

You were the one who said they had only recently read the Constitution, not me.
Are you denying you said that?

Proviiiide.

@Michael: I would pull my family out of California. 9th worst public education, sued for literacy rate.
In California, 25 percent of the state’s 6 million students are unable to perform basic reading skills. Without being able to read on an adult level, Americans will never be able to comprehend our other national problems.
Then they make them History teachers.

@Michael:

Proviiiide.

More games of obfuscation.

@kitt:

I would pull my family out of California.

I’d have a party to celebrate.

@retire05:

More games of obfuscation.

You’ve demanded links and citations from me many times. Is it not a game of obfuscation when you do it?

@Michael: My little town was just named one of the top 10 best places to live in the nation. Why would I ever think of moving to a sh!thole like where you are.

@kitt:

My little town was just named one of the top 10 best places to live in the nation.

Great!

@Greg:

What I know is that the quoted paragraph from the article is virtually incoherent, and that it’s the closest that either the Washington Examiner or diGenova come to stating how he supposedly knows. From that I deduce he knows nothing.

Well, we’ve all KNOWN for some time that the FISA warrant was based on the information gotten from the dossier and we have KNOWN for some time that the information was inaccurate and cobbled together by political partisans and we have KNOWN for some time that those in the FBI using the power of the federal government to try and wreck the political campaign of an opposition party candidate never bothered to try and verify any of the information in the dossier. So, if there was even an objective, honest, non-political investigation of the FISA warrant issuance, what ELSE would they find?

diGenova is another version of Rudy Giuliani. They perform the same function. They both interject total bullshit into the public consciousness that’s calculated to confuse and act as a smokescreen. I know that because I can observe it for myself.

No, Greg. None of what he said was bullshit. The bullshit had already happened; the bullshit is being uncovered. The bullshit was all dumped on the American people by Obama, they tried to cover it up, but Hillary losing has exposed the entire plot. Oh, there be bullshit; left wing seditious bullshit.

@Michael:

We disagree.

So you never believed in the collusion allegations? I’m pretty sure we disagree about THAT.

What are the chances that Deplorable Me will get outraged over that leak?

What are the chances you read and understand what I write? How do you know? The habit of leaking was established under YOUR people and all leaks have not yet been rooted out and stopped.

But, you are in good company; it appears Greg didn’t read it either. It seems you leftists have the ability to automatically filter out any facts you read that are contrary to what you want to believe.

@Deplorable Me:

The habit of leaking was established under YOUR people and all leaks have not yet been rooted out and stopped.

Are you against leaks or not?

@Michael:

Are you against leaks or not?

Excuse me, I must have stepped into the remedial class by mistake. As my statement says, they need to be rooted out and stopped. That would indicate I am clearly against leaks. By the way, I think Assuage is a scumbag, and not just when he is leaking information that shows how corrupt the Democrats are. It is a shame such a scumbag has to do the job our journalists should be doing.

@Deplorable Me:

Excuse me, I must have stepped into the remedial class by mistake.

You haven’t, but every single time you’ve said something on the order of, “The Democrats did it first,” it was a prelude to excusing Republicans for doing something that you pretend to deplore. Surely you see the source of my confusion.

@Michael:

“The Democrats did it first,” it was a prelude to excusing Republicans for doing something that you pretend to deplore. Surely you see the source of my confusion.

I have never, ever excused anything the Republicans were ACCUSED of doing by stating the Democrats did it first. Your best talent seems to be missing the point, which is if you had no problem when the Democrats did it, why do you pretend to be so upset over FALSE ALLEGATIONS that Republicans did something similar?

The answer is, of course, hypocrisy. You and other liberals are all hypocrites.