Well, there goes Thursday . . .
Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who has a new book coming out, sat down with what CBS is calling a “BOMBSHELL” interview with “60 Minutes” where he dropped this bombshell confirming that “There were meetings at the Justice Department at which it was discussed whether the vice president and a majority of the cabinet could be brought together to remove the president of the United States under the 25th Amendment”:
So, a “coup”?
McCabe also said Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein offered to wear a wire multiple times while meeting with President Trump:
Wow – McCabe also tells CBS that Rosenstein's offer to wear a wire with the president was raised more than once and that McCabe took it to the lawyers at the FBI to discuss. https://t.co/R0pT5UI0RN
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) February 14, 2019
No wonder he doesn’t want to testify in front of Congress:
Deep State status? CONFIRMED:
Further confirmation corrupt Deep State sought to overthrow @realDonaldTrump. Mueller special counsel operation is part of this effort. Shut it down. https://t.co/eVnGHfbuvD
— Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) February 14, 2019
We’ll note that it’s also pretty dumb of McCabe to think this was viable:
This is idiotic.
This isn't even how the 25th Amendment works!
Is McCabe that much of an ignoramus? https://t.co/swYMBqygPs
— Pradheep J. Shanker (@Neoavatara) February 14, 2019
From the WSJ on why it wouldn’t work:
Democrats love liars. McCabe protected Hillary in exchange for $447,000 Hillary gave to his wife. He’s a liar and a traitor.
A 25th Amendment removal of a president would not be a “coup,” it would be a 25th Amendment removal of a president, a constitutionally provided remedy for cause. Asking the questions that McCabe asked isn’t treason. He asked if conditions warranted exercising the 25th amendment and if that exercise would be successful. Sounds pretty rational to me, and I would say the same thing if the same questions were asked about ANY president. What good is a constitutional amendment if talking about it is treasonous?
No, not if Trump had been the victim of any of the numerous threats of assassination the left has proposed. However, it IS a coup to use it as merely a pretense to remove a duly elected President simply because he’s not the candidate you voted for.
No McCabe wanted EVIDENCE… because he had none. He didn’t even have suspicions, he merely had a pretense and wanted to fill in the blanks with… something. Just as the FBI did with General Flynn, catch Trump misstating a fact or gather some statements and edit them to provide a pretext.
It was the very definition of a coup.
@ Deplorable Me:
Well, evidently you were there, and I wasn’t, so I bow to the superiority of your inside information.
Seeing as how the definition of “coup” is “a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government” (emphasis mine) and the fact that McCabe was looking at a provision of the Constitution inserted specifically to provide a legal framework for removing the President if necessary, you are wrong yet again.
You are wise to do so.
@Michael: Once again you assume no one is better informed than you which, in your case, is not only a stretch of the imagination but a serious flaw in your strategy. A coup can take any form and what we have been witnessing is a coup by any definition. And, indeed in the way this one was engineered, it WAS ILLEGAL.
Was Trump incapacitated? Was he seriously ill? Had he been shot or poisoned? Was his decision making capacity impaired? Or, did they simply not like him? Provide some answers to those questions, if you dare.
@Deplorable Me: We have been saying it was a coup attempt for over 2 years, ever since the revealed FISA court and spying was confirmed, their excuse then was to “protect” Trump, suuuuure you were. Trump told he was not under investigation, ha that was a good one!
Totally unnoticed at that time every unethical psychiatrist going to the media and confirming yup he is nutz. Goldwater rule well lets just overlook that. Nope they were not plowing the road to much.
That’s the question they were looking at.
Let’s posit some future president who is compromised in some way. For the sake of discussion, we’ll even make the president Democratic, if that will get your chub going.
The process would start with people getting together and discussing the possibility before moving on to actually invoking the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.
Compromised or not, it all begins with people getting together to discuss it. Then they move forward or, as happened here, they don’t. You’ll notice that Trump has not been removed from office.
You seem to be saying that nobody should ever discuss a process that is, in fact, included in the Constitution.
“If I dare”?
Get over yourself, for fuck’s sake.
@Michael: Like every part of this illegal coup attempt there was no reason only political partisanship. How can we GET this person we dont favor out of office. Planning, plotting then taking a different path. It certainly makes clear the intent of the elites in the FBI. They tried the blackmail a dismal failure. released BS into the media before the voting on Russian connections, were laughed off but continued with spying. The Cabinet including the VP they must have determined wouldn’t play along.
The FBI and IC are not supposed to play in our politics picking winners and losers you can stop with the MSNBC talking points of created sympathy and excuses for a weaponized government. Next just following orders?
LET THEM SWING
Allen Dershowitz said:
“The 25th Amendment is designed for Woodrow Wilson having a stroke, President Reagan being shot and being incapacitated for a few days while surgery occurred. That’s its purpose and its scope. You can’t use the 25th Amendment if you disagree with the president, even if you think he’s committing impeachable offenses. If you think he’s committing impeachable offenses, then impeach him. But the 25th Amendment is sacred. It should be reserved only for situations where either the president admits he’s unable to serve, or the vice president and a majority of the cabinet acknowledge that he can’t serve, that he is incapacitated for physical or psychiatric reasons. It shouldn’t be abused in the way that it is alleged that Rod Rosenstein wanted to abuse it.”
Dershowitz is one of the finest Constitutional law minds in the nation. You are not. You’re the one that should “Get over yourself, for fuck’s sake.”
I guess Dershowitz’s legal opinion would need to be tested in a court of law. Even the final Constitutional minds of the nation can lose a case in court.
Really? Based on WHAT? What “decisions” had he made? Fired the utterly incompetent and partisan Comey? The DEMOCRATS had been clamoring for him to be fired… and worse. So, what, exactly, had Trump done up to that time that would make anyone not a Hillaryite partisan believe he was impaired IN ANY WAY?
You are hard-on obsessed, aren’t you? No wonder you can’t reason; you are consumed with blue-vein throbbers. That aside, the 25th Amendment was intended for a situation like the assassination attempt on Reagan, if he had been more seriously wounded that he was. Or, if Hillary had won and the issue of the Russians giving her $150,000,000 to approve the sale of our uranium to them or the deeply compromised position she was in with the Russians and Chinese having ALL her State Department emails, including the 33,000 she obliterated from OUR eyes (but not theirs). It’s not intended for those on the losing side of an election to just remove the winner from office because he is likely going to expose what they had been up to to KEEP him from winning.
Well, get you mind out of my tightened pants for a moment and contemplate that FIRST there should be PROBABLE CAUSE. There is nothing of the sort here but that those involved didn’t like the outcome of the election. Keep in mind, Obama’s government had Trump and ALL his associates under ILLEGAL surveillance for a year. Apparently they had found NOTHING or else they would not be discussing, “Let’s do this, then this, record this, manipulate that, edit this, change that, imply this, leak that so we can use the 25th Amendment and remove Trump from office.”
Apparently you don’t dare or you could have provided something substantial instead of your woody dreams. You are such a stepped on turd.
@kitt: @retire05: It’s obvious many of the sycophantic left will never see the threat to the Constitution their blind loyalty to the left presents. Apparently, they want POWER by any means possible, and that is DANGEROUS.
From the guy who refuses to read his daily intelligence briefings:
“I don’t care. I believe Putin.”
@Greg: Well, so far, Putin hasn’t tried to run him out of office. The IC has.
@Greg: He prefers them to be presented in conversation not just sleep in til 10 then completely ignore them and shoot some hoops, or have them watered down to his taste Isis is the JV team taste. Dont bother me Im getting ready for vacation , or to go to a campaign event for fund raising in Las Vegas, Sir… sir… Mr. President ah Benghzi…..can you take a break from your new selfie stick? Yes, good sound bite sir, Bin Laden is dead and ISIS is on the run, they will love that one.