He did it. He said he would do it and he did it.
The liberal establishment has lost its mind over Donald Trump’s making good on a campaign promise to institute “extreme vetting” of immigrants seeking refuge in this country.
Trump's NSC chief's son declares exactly what this is: A "Muslim ban," whatever weasel words his dad and Trump's minions come up with. https://t.co/ncdkXKGVSk
— Terry Moran 🇺🇸 (@TerryMoran) January 28, 2017
The stupid is deep and profound. barack obama did the same thing in 2011. Jimmy Carter did much the same thing. Sean Davis pointed it out and then WaPo’s fact checker shoves both feet in his own mouth trying to defend the press’s dereliction.
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/825399057803837442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Kessler then opened his mouth
two big differences: 1) pause was not announced at the time, done quietly. reporters only found out years later. 2) not based on religion.
— Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) January 28, 2017
And proves that the press has been on its knees for 8 years
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/825404259789336577?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/825408027989782528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Now for the good part. For years I have said that liberals have zero long term memory, especially for actions by liberals.
It’s time to crank up the Wayback Machine. To absolute astonishment of liberals, Donald Trump is making good on his campaign promises. He did promise he would enact “extreme vetting.” Let’s look at the responses back then:
Politico: The case for extreme vetting
The many filters that have been used throughout American history to determine who will and will not get an entry visa have an obvious purpose. Yes, some of them, in the hindsight of history, seemed to have had no constructive purpose. But for the most part, they helped to strengthen the social and political fabric of our country and they helped to define the common set of values that distinguishes us as Americans. Or to quote Alexander Hamilton again: “The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits.”
So, regardless of what you think about the Trump candidacy, the next time you hear that Trump’s proposal for immigrant vetting is un-American, the correct response is that it is American to its core. And the next time you hear that Trump’s proposal is crazier than crazy, the correct response is that—given the mess the world is in—it is the notion that we should not vet immigrants more carefully that is certifiably insane.
Washington Examiner: Immigrants agree with Trump’s ‘extreme vetting’ plan, terror nation ban
A new survey of immigrants shows that more than six in 10 agree with Donald Trump‘s call for “extreme vetting” of foreigners coming to America, and even more older immigrants back his plan to stop migration from terrorist nations until the U.S. comes up with a better vetting scheme.
Washington Post: Trump’s ‘extreme vetting’ is harsh, but it would be legal
But in advancing a litmus test for entry, a President Trump would be claiming the same unilateral authority so willingly yielded to Obama on immigration over the past eight years. Obama has asserted sweeping, unilateral authority in his opposition to state laws seeking to force deportations. Democrats, including Clinton, enthusiastically supported Obama’s assertion of such unilateral powers in exempting undocumented immigrants from deportations. In doing so, they have laid the foundation for Trump to push for the inverse of those policies. It would be difficult, now, for Clinton to claim that Trump cannot use the same unilateral powers to reduce entries as opposed to deportations.
It is opined that legal challenges to Trump’s extreme vetting will quickly fail:
The Congress carved out protection only for a limited class of aliens: those who qualify for an immigrant visa. Even here, the only limits are race, sex, nationality, but no limits on the presidential power to exclude based on religion, terror designations, poor vetting documentation or anything that can be called a matter of “procedure.” All refugees can be legally excluded. All Muslims can be legally excluded. All Sharia law supporters can be legally excluded.
Thus, the federal court is likely to dismiss the CAIR case, as the issues raised go mostly beyond the jurisdiction of the court, a political question in which the Court is the wrong venue for CAIR’s complaints.
Another liberal lawsuit loss likely awaits. Maybe the lawsuit lovers would benefit from what former President Obama once reminded us all: elections have consequences.
If Trump haters bristle at Trump’s actions, they have one person to blame- barack obama. He made it all possible:
What? So there was a Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 two years before Trump? There was a kind of “Muslim ban” before the Muslim ban? But almost no one critiqued it in 2015 because it was Obama’s administration overseeing it.
So for more than a year it has been US policy to discriminate against, target and even begin to ban people from the seven countries that Trump is accused of banning immigrants and visitors from. CNN even hinted at this by noting “those countries were named in a 2016 law concerning immigration visas as ‘countries of concern.’” But why didn’t CNN note that the seven countries were not named and that in fact they are only on the list because of Obama’s policy?
That list of countries people blame Trump for? obama is the author. And we’re still not done.
https://twitter.com/RightWingIowa/status/825562377903075328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
barack obama has teed it all up for Donald Trump.
https://twitter.com/RobProvince/status/796770005471916036
The green card rules have been reversed and I think that was the proper thing to do.
I’ve had some entertaining interactions this weekend. My liberal acquaintances want to vociferously complain about Trump and this legal action he’s taken but the second the truth is introduced- that obama created the list of nations of concern, that obama put a moratorium on refugees from Iraq, that Carter did it too, that obama asked and got a law permitting indefinite detention of Americans, expanded warrantless surveillance of Americans and made killing of Americans without due process possible they shut you down.
They don’t want anything- no matter how true- to put a dent in the safe space world view they’ve constructed for themselves.
Addendum:
I sure wish liberals were as emotional and concerned for US veterans as they are for foreigners.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
Will we be hearing from the Useless Nations Human Rights Commity? and wait for the whining little liberal snowflakes to start their whining as they always do hear them go WHINE,WHINE,WHINE
The hypocrisy from the left and the RINOs who are also bemoaning this action is indeed a sight to behold. Easy to figure them out though when one considers in their minds, it’s only right if they do it” Heaven forbid any person that puts this country and her ideals and safety first disagreeing with the with the elitist scum that can only talk down to us ignorant peasants who in their eyes have no right to think for ourselves. Having said that, I found the following which makes what President Trump is doing legit! End of story. End of conversation. Keep them out until vetted from countries that aim hatred at this country.
8 U.S. CODE S 1182
Inadmissible aliens
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such a period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem appropriate
I have read several accounts saying that Trump has played the media on this. I hope that’s true, because it implies he is a much smarter political animal than we all previously thought.
Like using the passing game to break open the running game (or vice versa), if Trump continues to totally embarrass the left with their own (previous) positions, they might just eventually learn to check their facts out before they shift into outraged hypocritical liar gear.
It likely would be News instead of fake news if the MSN would have read the Ex Order and placed it in context.
I see that CAIR is suing trump over the whole thing and frankly CAIR needs to lose its tax exempt status and kick these camel jockeys all the way back to the gobi desert let them live their nomadic lifestyles of their ancestors
The left and ISIS really have their panties in a wad over this.
Explain to me the logic of the 7 nations Trump’s ban has arbitrarily targeted, while at the same time leaving Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Lebanon off the list.
Every damn one of the 9/11 terrorists came from one of those last 4 nations. None came from the 7 countries he has listed. Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates is ground zero for Wahhabism. That’s where the Islamic extremism and the money behind it is coming from. The states he’s listed are those the extremism has targeted—not the places where it’s originating.
Question of the day: In which of the above states does Trump have significant business interests? Do you think you know? If so, how?
It’s all for show. It’s made no one safer. Arguably it will make us less safe, by providing Islamic extremists with another argument against America, yet another means of widening the rift, and yet another recruitment tool. It will likely cost us cooperation in our efforts against terrorism. And it has cost us a measure of our national principles and integrity.
Trump fires acting AG after she declines to defend travel ban
The acting Attorney General wouldn’t comply with an Executive Order she believes is illegal. Apparently she was unwilling to be Trump’s toady, and just blew up her own career to stand up for the law and her principles. Good for her.
@Greg:
And if some jihadist that was allowed in the county by a President Trump administration blew up your family at a shopping mall, you would then be glad we stuck to our principals and integrity?
You’re still an idiot.
And you’re ignoring a very obvious question. Supporting Donald Trump, or any of his positions, always seems to require a person to ignore one or more totally obvious questions.
What’s the logic of arbitrarily banning people from 7 Muslim nations that have been the targets of Islamic extremists, while totally ignoring other nations that have been the source of the extremism itself?
Is it idiotic to ask about that? Is it idiotic to wonder about the contradictions regarding Russian financial entanglements, or in which nations serious conflicts of interest can be found?
I think it’s idiotic not to do so. I find the whole pattern of refusing to ask serious questions just plain stupid. Particularly when the man in the White House repeatedly lies through his teeth, and then acts as if he doesn’t even owe people smart enough to notice he’s done so the courtesy of a straight answer.
He’s trying to make facts and truth irrelevant. He’s not going to get away with it. Nobody’s going to “get over it.” People are going to gradually wake up.
Trump Fires Acting Attorney General
It is a good start.
Fire another 20% of the federal “workers” and we are off and running.
Then this:
Every time an Obama appointee is fired, an angel gets its wings!
Explain to me the logic of the 7 nations Trump’s ban
GFY and go pound sand…..
http://moonbattery.com/graphics/labor-force_participation-rate.jpg
@Greg:
It’s based on what information those countries can provide us with the people they are sending us. That’s it in a nutshell. It makes more sense when you understand that.
@July 4th American:
Moonbattery.com? That’s your source?
Seriously?
No Dr. John, Obama didn’t do it too. Your lie in attempting to give merit to Trump’s religious ban has been debunked from credible news sources from both sides.
There is really no comparison to Obama actions of 2011 and 2015 as they were a response to specific threat based on specific intel information. There was no outright ban and the 2015 legislation still allowed visa applications from those seven countries.
But I do understand that in your efforts to defend your profoundly dishonest, racist sexist rabid egomaniac con man who seems to be running amok with his Executive Order pen with no regard to the Legislative Branch or The Constitution, all you can do is rely on your “blame Obama” crutch.
@Ajay42302:
Are you an ardent supporter of the rescinded long standing policy of wet foot dry foot with Cuba?
@July 4th American:
I fail to see the relevance.
@Ajay42302:
What did obama do with respect to the longstanding policy of wet foot dry foot. Pay attention, I am educating you..
@retire05: Too bad we can’t physically sepearate ourselves from the rabid left that way if and when it does happen, they can reap the benefits of what they preach without the sane people (57% according to Rausmussen) getting killed by their stupidity and arrogance.
@July 4th American, #11:
Confronted with a reasonable question, you respond with an insult—just like the man you elected. So, the question remains—along with a number of other serious, unanswered questions:
What’s the logic of arbitrarily banning people from 7 Muslim nations that have been the targets of Islamic extremists, while totally ignoring other nations that have been the source of the extremism itself?
The only logic is in the context of political theater. Trump is pandering to his reality television audience. Nothing positive will be accomplished, except in their imaginations, but the cost will be real and consequential. The cost will be the further erosion of trust, cooperation, and good will among the global Muslim community—something that’s absolutely essential in the battle against Islamic extremism.
I have yet to hear Trump say a single word about Operation Inherent Resolve. That would be the actual war currently underway against ISIS and other Islamic extremist forces that’s been conducted by U.S. and coalition nations for the past 2 years. Maybe you’d better look at the website before Trump orders it eliminated.
Dubai’s head of security Dhahi Khalfan Tamim has sparked outrage once again, this time after backing US President Donald Trump’s controversial Muslim ban.
@Greg: Please go educate yourself on how arbitrary these 7 countries were, do they have stable governments that can cooperate with the US for background checks? Were they not the same countries Obama and congress chose for the same type of ban for not 90 days but 6 months, yes Obama did the same thing for 6 months, and cut off Cuban refugees, Clinton cut off Haitian refugees. Again I must tell you to check your liberal privilege and get facts before your blah blah nonsense.
Cooperation …the Saudis and UAE has agreed to back the US with safe zones to keep these people in their own environment til the civil war is over, one phone call, one call your former president just couldn’t make.
Six of the seven countries on Trump’s ‘Muslim ban’ list also bar visitors based on nationality
A bit of education could benefit everyone:
How many fatal terror attacks have refugees carried out in the US? None
Islamic extremists who have carried out terrorist attacks inside the United States have all come from nations that are not on Trump’s list of banned countries. None came here on refugee status.
@July 4th American, #23:
People aren’t trying to escape from those nations because they’re nice places to live and raise their families. Jews weren’t fleeing Nazi Germany because the nation was welcoming everyone with open arms and embracing the values of human worth and human rights.
SACRAMENTO (CBSLA.com/AP) — California may prohibit local law enforcement from cooperating with federal immigration authorities, creating a border-to-border sanctuary in the nation’s largest state as legislative Democrats ramp up their efforts to battle President Donald Trump’s migration policies.
The legislation is scheduled for its first public hearing Tuesday as the Senate rushes to enact measures that Democratic lawmakers say would protect immigrants from the crackdown that the Republican president has promised.
@Greg: Funny you should bring up Jews escaping Germany. Recall the plight of the ship St.louis? FDR refused it. Just anther blemish on the history of the Democrat party.
For your viewing pleasure.
It’s going to be a long 4 years for you. So take a chill pill and save your thunder for something that’s actually worth it. Otherwise unlock your doors, put out a sign, “Everyone welcome in here” Let them all in and pony up your money for it.
@Mully, #27:
FDR has to do with events of the first half of the previous century. I’m more concerned about current events at the moment.
Brian Hooks, President of the Charles Koch Foundation, Sunday, January 29th, in a statement to reporters covering the Koch network gathering:
Charles Koch, Sunday, January 29th, speaking at the same event:
Who do you think he’s talking about?
@retire05: really? You are either for the protection of American citizens or you are not. If you are not, perhaps another country would be suitable – Cuba, Russia, or maybe Venezuela.
@Greg: none? really, the Boston bombers?
w They were granted asylum in the U.S. before killing three and injuring more than 250 people.
Have you been listening to Wretched Madcow again?? CNN? Or is it Salon?
Members of the “Fort Dix 6,” who were convicted of conspiracy to murder U.S. military personnel, also entered seeking asylum; they were never granted it, but were never removed from the country, either.
The kid that just recently tried to run over college students and was shot, a refugee.
Hundreds of Muslim immigrants have already been charged and convicted of providing material support to terrorist organizations, or attempting to launch their own attacks here on U.S. soil.
The attack by 24-year-old Muhammad Abdulaziz, who gunned down five U.S. servicemen in Chattanooga earlier this summer.
But Shariah-compliant Muslims don’t just come to the U.S. as refugees from these countries. Many come on student and work-related visas.
There are 7 billion people on this planet and only US citizens are covered by the constitution, they have no right to come here, and can be blocked for any reason at all.
Democrats used to give a crap about this country
@kitt. #30:
Both of the Boston bombers were naturalized U.S. citizens. Their families had been granted political asylum in the United States in March 2007. They didn’t come to the United States as refugees. Refugee status and entry is granted after a person has been screened and determined to be qualified prior to entering the United States. The Tsarnaev family entered the United States on tourist visas.
Entering the United States as a refugee is a lengthy, difficult process, taking months to years. You can’t get refugee status just by turning up on the doorstep.
@kitt, #30:
Both of the Boston bombers were naturalized U.S. citizens. Their families had been granted political asylum in the United States in March 2007. They didn’t come to the United States as refugees. Refugee status and entry is granted after a person has been screened and determined to be qualified prior to entering the United States. The Tsarnaev family entered the United States on tourist visas.
Entering the United States as a refugee is a lengthy, difficult process, taking months to years. You can’t get refugee status just by turning up on the doorstep.
Green Card Holder Dies a Day After Being Prevented From Returning Home by Trump’s Order, Report Says
Don’t worry, Mike. It was legal. Get over it.
@Greg: Right now, someone in your town/city/state was sick and died because you didn’t help them or give them money. A US citizen, too.
How can you live with yourself?
@Greg: Right, because “intelligence” means reacting after our citizens get killed, rather than preventing death by way of information gathering.
Please tell our intelligence agencies to only target sources of terrorism after they’ve successfully racked a death or two.
Idiot.
@Greg:
You were the one who brought up Jews in the WWII time frame. So I was responding to your concern, which shifted as soon as I replied.
Didn’t know you were such a fan of the Koch brothers. What other things about them do you admire?
It’s not a travel ban. IT”S NOT A TRAVEL BAN.
@Enchanted:
What are you babbling about? Are you new here? There is not a poster here that doesn’t know my political philosophy. FYI, I am a Texan and have attended the funerals of three friends who were slaughtered (murdered is too kind a word) by illegals. We have no borders. You can just walk in and nothing is done to you.
For all those leftwingers like Greggie Goebbles, even Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley say that Trump’s EO on immigration is legal but the left would rather worry about some prospective terrorist’s right to enter than they would the safety and security of the American citizen.
@Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, the majority of Americans support President Donald Trump on this action. Once again your on the losing side. Not many wins for you and the demoncraps lately eh Greggie!!
@Common Sense, #38:
Right.
That would explain why Hillary Clinton beat him in the popular election by nearly 3 million votes, even after the GOP and right-wing media’s 4-year, full-time effort at character assassination. Even with repeated assists from Vladimir Putin, accused rapist Julian Assange, and undisclosed liars inside the FBI who leaked rumors and false information, Donald Trump couldn’t still pull in a majority of voters. The disparity between the popular vote and the Electoral College result is the greatest in the history of the United States. It’s greater by an order of magnitude.
That would explain why a higher percentage of Americans disapprove of the job he’s doing than approve.
Probably it also explains why hundreds of thousands of people were out in the streets all across America protesting his installation into the White House.
@Greg:
Right.
We all understand the talking points your handlers have given you to disseminate. Let’s go over them shall we?
1. Popular Vote: pulled into the conversation to de-legitimize Trump’s legal victory. The election was based on electoral college, not popular vote. Changing the rules after and pretending you won is simply f*cking stupid. As Trump said, he campaigned to win the EC, not the pop. vote. To criticize that is simply bad politics.
The left sought to engineer a permanent demographic majority, based on fear-mongering and group think. When I subtract the bullshit votes made by 19-year-olds watching SNL and Comedy Central, latinos afraid to have they’re families deported, and whites voting for a fad that stopped being relevant 15 years ago, you have a clearer picture. Thinking Americans won the popular vote.
Again, I openly ignore the votes of the demographics above. They don’t count. History has shown how the masses are exploited for tyrants, and the left was trying to pull that on us. Luckily, those of us with educations overruled the rabble.
More minorities voted Republican than ever before, and more college-educated whites voted for Trump than Hillary.
2. Approval Rating: NOT a serious piece of info. Controlled by leftist propaganda brokers, this is used as a weapon of hate.
3. Hundreds of thousands taking to the street: Yes, hate-mongering generates rabid crowds. You and your people want blood, yet don’t quite understand that yet.
The majority of Americans rejected your platform. Build a viable way for your party to serve the people, or get out of politics.
You really are the worst this country has to offer the world.
Those “talking points” would be demonstrable facts—not the sort of “alternative facts” that the Trump administration promotes to its reality television audience.
Here’s an example of the worst this country has to offer the world—the moron telling another citizen to “get out of my country.”
It’s not your country. It’s our country. And I don’t like the way you’re making it look, or what you’re hoping to turn it into.
obama hates America and was intent upon destroying it. Thank GOD he may have only done minimal damage at least at this point. It is time to eradicate the left and the democrat party. They are irrelevant reduced to women’s genitalia marches.
President Trump’s nomination of Sessions for attorney general has cleared the Senate Judiciary Committee; will be taken up by full Senate.
During a listening session for Black History Month on Wednesday, President Donald Trump said, “I don’t watch CNN. … I don’t like watching fake news.” Trump said, “You read all about Dr. Martin Luther King a week ago, when somebody said I took the statue out of my office, and it turned out that that was fake news. The statue is cherished. It’s one of the favorite things in the — and we have some good ones. We have Lincoln, and we have Jefferson and we have Dr. Martin Luther King,
@July 4th American, #42:
I always suspected this, and I’m glad you finally came right out and said it. More Trump supporters should openly speak their minds. This might “eradicate” any lingering doubts about what they’re actually thinking. Maybe people would then wake up to the serious danger Donald Trump represents.
Here’s an instructive little exercise. Get out a pencil, and see how many items on this list you can presently check off:
Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism
The left is evil and does not represent the mainstream views of normal Americans. The iron triangle of activist groups, the media and the leftist politicians hate America and real Americans.
@Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, Trump won’t eradicate the demoncrap party, they are doing it to themselves. They fail to recognize how irrelevant they are and by daring Republicans and Trump to act in the best interest of America they will be reduced to the irrelevance they seek!!
Our resident “patriot’ july4 calls Michelle an “ape in heels”, denies evolution, says Obama HATES AMERICA, has never served his country.
July 4—you’re a caveman
@Greg:
What a heartless SOB, why didn’t he let his mother go in his place, or if she was that sick, why didn’t he stay there and take care of her.
@Greg:
Oh really, “This land is MY land, this Land is YOUR land, from the New York Islands to the …….”Remember?