For the last eight years I’ve been shaking my head, simply bewildered that so many Americans could be so insane as to vote for Barack Obama for president. Not surprisingly, once Obama was ensconced in the White House things played out pretty much as predicted with virtually every month bringing new news of a faltering economy, a shrinking workforce and more government waste, intervention and tyranny. In 2012, after Fast and Furious, the IRS Tea Party scandal, Obamacare and, most of all, Benghazi, I was sure that Americans would rise up and throw out the anti American Obama and vote for the less than conservative, but exponentially superior Mittens Romney. Alas, the population spoke, and they doubled down on the fascist living at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
I was certain that year that if only a real conservative who could eloquently articulate the basic tenets of small government and fiscal responsibility had run he would have won by a landslide. After all, wasn’t it obvious that Barack Obama was the worst president in American history and the Democrats were rapidly devolving into open Socialism? But as we know, there was no such conservative running and Milquetoast Mitt was shellacked.
Now, in 2016 we find ourselves in an utterly different situation. We have a rock solid conservative running for the White House. Who can and does eloquently articulate the ideas behind our founding principles of limited government, individual liberty as well as the fundamental idea of American Exceptionalism. Yet, somehow he’s losing the GOP nomination fight… to a guy who’s a big government crony capitalist who has spent most of his life supporting Democrats and their liberal policies. Essentially he’s losing to a vapid populist whose idea of debating is throwing insults and lies around like confetti rather than providing substantive positions on practically any issue.
The next couple of weeks will tell the story, but the fact that we are at this point says a lot about the United States and the American people. That half the population are voting for an avowed socialist or a socialist in liberal clothing is sad. That one third of the remainder are actively supporting a populist candidate with little understanding of the issues at stake never mind the concepts of limited government, free markets and individual freedom upon which this country was founded, is disheartening.
The United States is not a democracy and never has been. We are a republic with a separation of powers and limited government that are unique in the history of government. It was that limited government and the companion individual liberties upon which the government is not to tread that created more prosperity for more people around the world than any government, state or entity in all of human history. Today all of that is in peril as almost 2/3 of the population are seemingly prepared to travel down a path of dismantling the limitations on government our Founding Fathers put in place.
After eight years under a president who decried the Constitution as a “Charter of negative liberties” the next president will have a choice. Either bring the progressive attack on the Constitution and freedom to a halt or pick up where Obama leaves off and continue down that path. Unfortunately, three of the four remaining candidates – John Kasich doesn’t count as a real candidate – are more than happy to jettison the Constitution and pander to the masses. Whether it’s Germany or Argentina or Venezuela, such populist movements rarely turn out well.
Populist movements share one underlying characteristic… they seek to harness the anger of the mob. Once the shackles of constitutional limits are thrown off, there is little to restrain government or the people other than the character of the leaders, and often that’s simply not enough. As Maximilien Robespierre learned, the consequences of doing so can be, shall we say, unforeseen… and unfortunate.
Today we see just such a mob mentality in the GOP race, and it starts at the top. Donald Trump claims the will of the people is being thwarted whenever he loses. He suggests the rules are tilted against him and therefore should be ignored. He’s even suggested that if he doesn’t walk away with the nomination despite not reaching 1,237, there will be riots. His followers have taken to preemptively threatening delegates to the convention if they don’t support him. Even his cheerleader Rush Limbaugh has suggested that if the Donald isn’t given the nomination his supporters will go nuclear. None of that bodes well for the future. If the threat of mob violence and anarchy are enough to do away with the rules when Trump has nothing but a vocal minority of GOP voters on his side, what chance do Constitutional restraints on government have when he is in charge of the entire government infrastructure?
The American people have twice put in office a man with a demonstrated antagonism towards the Constitution and he has spent the last eight years trampling on it. Once that bell has been rung, it’s hard to unring, and history has shown that the siren call of power is hard to resist, even for those without Donald Trump’s HUUUUGE ego. There are four candidates for president remaining. Three of them will pick up where Barack Obama leaves off and continue the progressive march towards the fall of the Republic because they see government as nothing more than an instrument for imposing their ideas on the population. And then there is Ted Cruz, who would turn back virtually everything Barack Obama has done because he understands the value of a strong Constitution, a limited government and a free people.
Emerging from Independence Hall after the Constitutional Convention, Ben Franklin was asked by a woman what kind of government we had. Franklin replied “A Republic, if you can keep it.” One can’t help but wonder if Americans are willing to vote to keep their republic and the rule of law or are instead going to finally pass the torch to the tyranny of the mob, also known as democracy.
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How well did you do predicting the last 2 elections ? Both were runaway victories for Obama
@kitt:
Yes there were a lot of dead people voting in that election.
Moderate? is putting it in the best light, kinda to the left of moderate, in my opinion
Wide spread voter fraud?
Where in all of the battleground states most of which had GOP Secretaries of State ?
Widespread voter fraud ?
Great claims require great proof haven’t seen any proof
Just how smart do youvthinkbthecdems can be to pull that off ? And never see any signs of fraud?
What states do you believe that happened in ?
@John:
When you see dead people voting and you ‘require proof’ that just means you don’t want to see.
Ohio had many precincts with over 100% turnout that voted over 100% Dimocrat, and that requires ‘proof’ Chuckle……..
@John: In at least two counties in Ohio, the number of registered voters exceeded the number of eligible adults who are of voting age. In northwestern Ohio’s Wood County, there are 109 registered voters for every 100 people eligible to vote. An additional 31 of Ohio’s 88 counties have voter registration rates over 90%, which most voting experts regard as suspicious. Obama miraculously won 100% of the vote in 21 districts in Cleveland, and received over 99% of the vote where GOP inspectors were illegally removed.
The inflated numbers can’t just reflect voters who have moved, because the average voting registration level nationwide is only 70%. The vast majority of voters over the 70% level are not voting because they want to, they are voting because someone is getting them to cast a vote, one way or another. Those 31 counties are most likely the largest counties in Ohio, representing a majority of Ohio voters. This means the number of votes cast above the 70% typical voter registration level easily tops 100,000, the margin Obama won Ohio by.
Just Ohio, why do you think the left gets its panties in a bind with voter ID laws?
The North Carolina State Board of Elections has found thousands of instances of voter fraud in the state, thanks to a 28-state crosscheck of voter rolls. Initial findings suggest widespread election fraud.
765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state – and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.
The second point is key, as double voting is election fraud under state and federal statutes. Punishment for double voting in federal elections can include jail time.
In October 2012, Project Veritas produced video showing a Barack Obama campaign worker helping a voter register to vote in both Texas and Florida.
In addition to the above, the crosscheck found that more than 13,000 deceased voters remain on North Carolina’s rolls, and that 81 of them showed voter activity in their records after death.
Just 2 states I am sure there are more if I continue to look.
When counties have more registered voters than residents of voting age, it’s generally because local officials have failed to keep their voter rolls current. This should be done by cross-checking data bases an ongoing basis, rather than by conducting periodic mass purges, which are prone to error, and which also can be intentionally misused to gain partisan advantage.
@Redteam:
I see no link to any of those claims
However they are widely believed to be true
Snopes which investigates urban ledgends looked into this
You can easily see their results
Especially noting those Ohio numbers
In Wood County which was mentioned in the fraud there are 108000 registered voters
The total turnout was 68000 voters
Please show links to your claims
Your trusted sources keep hosing you
@Makeamericagreatagain: And a Bot does a flyby
The (D) didn’t win in 2016 with 0bama’s second term, but the GOPe threw away the election by nominating their prototypical country club elite that the GOP base refused to vote for. To this day, they still haven’t learned the lesson from that one.
This should be required pre-election reading for every registered voter.
How Lies Spread Faster Than Truth: A Study of Viral Content
I predict we’ll see a demonstration of how this works during the run up to election day, but roughly half the population won’t be aware of what’s happening. Their brains have already been thoroughly washed, dried, and pressed.
@Greg: The left opposes and resists the cross checking and purging. Look at how they fought it in Florida and New York, claiming (again) that this was “disenfranchising”. The left likes the water muddied as much as possible.
@Bill, #62:
To anyone who takes an objective look at what was done in Florida and elsewhere, it’s fairly obvious that tidying up the voter rolls was the cover story for a systematic effort to suppress the vote. Curtailing early voting, eliminating Sunday voting, reallocating voting machines in a way that forced some determined voters to stand in line for up to 7 hours to cast their ballot, declining to accept student ids as identification, forcing students to return to their homes to vote—it’s all part and parcel of the same thing.
The constantly repeated lie that voter fraud is “rampant” serves as rationalization. In fact, it has never been demonstrated that voter fraud has had any significant impact on recent elections. It’s an isolated phenomenon that is statistically insignificant.
Further, the single greatest threat to the integrity of the voting process—rigged voting machines that cannot be cross checked against paper ballots—is pretty much ignored entirely.
@kitt: kitt you must say WHICH 2 counties had voter turnout higher than regisyered voters, Great claims require great proof. You must show which but before you waste your time let me show you how that email that you are speaking about was debunked by Snopes. and of course Snopes makes it easy for you to do the same checks.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp
In 21 districts in Wood County Ohio, Obama received 100% of the votes where GOP inspectors were illegally removed from their polling locations — and not one single vote was recorded for Romney. (Another statistical impossibility).
A precinct-by-precinct breakdown of the official voting results from Wood County, Ohio, for the 2012 election shows that Barack Obama received nowhere close to 100% of the votes cast in any of that county’s 97 precincts. The highest percentage he achieved in any one precinct was 75.5%.
In Wood County Ohio, 106,258 voted in a county with only 98,213 eligible voters.
The official Voter Turnout statistics for Ohio show Wood County recorded a total turnout of 64,342 voters, an amount far smaller than the number of registered voters in that county (108,014).
Kitt you regularly get hosed by your trusted sources. Because they tell you things you WANT to hear you believe them. However you never bother to try and check primary sources,
With the internet it is really quite easy to do something like check the vote totals in wood County
Here are the actual vote numbers in that Wood County
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/ohio/
Obama got 52%
Romney got 48%
This would have been just as easy for you to check, just like with which states (red) receive more from DC than they give.
As you can see one county in Ohio voted 75% for Romney but you don’t hear any Dems shouting VOTER FRAUD VOTER FRAUD!!!!
if you don’t trust Snopes here areout 23,800 results (0.44 seconds)
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2012 Voter Fraud : snopes.com
http://www.snopes.com › Fact Check
Snopes.com
May 19, 2015 – A list of instances supposedly proving voter fraud in the 2012 U.S. presidential election is completely bogus. … * In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded for Romney. … * In St. Lucie County, FL, there …
Voter Fraud Archives | Snopes.com
http://www.snopes.com/tag/voter-fraud/Snopes.com
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/voting-conspiracies/
FactCheck.org
Jan 17, 2013 – As each state reported their final election details, the evidence of voter fraud is astounding. Massive voter fraud has been reported in areas of …
The Indisputable Liberal Bias of Snopes – Stormfront
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/blogs/u227045-e3434/
Stormfront
Jul 28, 2013 – The following excerpts are from the article titled “2012 Voter Fraud” on snopes dot com. It was retrieved on July 25, 2013 and any discrepancies …
A follow-up on claims of “voter fraud” state by state. : politics
https://www.reddit.com/…/a_followup_on_claims_of_voter_fraud_state_…
Oct 18, 2014 – GOP claims Democratic voter fraud in Wisconsin is equal to “1 or 2 …… That one is addressed about halfway down this page at Snopes.
Are Dead People Voting? – Fact and Myth
http://www.factandmyth.com/voter-fraud/are-dead-people-voting-fraud
Mar 12, 2014 – Voter fraud has become another point of contention in the US, largely divided among political lines. The Republican Party in general, is in favor …
There Was Widespread Voter Fraud in the 2012 Presidential …
Apr 1, 2014 – This is a forwarded email that cited alleged instances of voter fraud during the 2012 presidential election in an effort to prove voter ID laws are …
Fact Check: Email rounds up all the voter fraud in 2012 …
jacksonville.com/…/fact-check-email-rounds-al…
The Florida Times‑Union
Jan 20, 2013 – Fact Check: Email rounds up all the voter fraud in 2012 presidential election — or … a turnout rate of 69.56 percent, not 141, Snopes.com notes.
5 myths about voter fraud, early voting – Cincinnati Enquirer
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/…/11/…voter-fraud…voting/18393659/
@Greg:
There are none so blind as those that will not see. As long as it benefits the Dims, they’ll never see voter fraud.
@john:
of course Snopes is a liberal site that never finds any problems with Dim fraud. As long as the get their paychecks from Dims, they’ll find for the Dims.
@john: Using Factcheck and Snopes as proof is like asking the DNC if the Dims cheated in the last election. You need to find a neutral site to get your info, the Dims are never going to voluntarily print incriminating evidence. I’ll bet you think Lyndon Johnson got elected legally also.
@Redteam: If there is widespread voter fraud why are elections certified by Republican Secretaries of State a
Why are there no mass arrests?
Great Claims require great proof
@john: From one of those links you provided above, Geez, how much do you need to see?
@john: My trusted sources? Seriously dont trust much off the internet anymore, just grabbed cause you asked but snopes as a source lol thats getting hosed.
Why no prosecutions ask Eric.
Shabazz is the man the Obama administration Department of Justice refused to prosecute after he was filmed on Election Day 2008 with Jerry Jackson wearing paramilitary uniforms, carrying a nightstick and blocking a doorway to a polling location to intimidate voters.
“I hate white people – all of them! Every last iota of a cracker, I hate ’em,” Shabazz shouts into a megaphone on a crowded sidewalk. “Through South Street with white, dirty, cracker whore [expletive] on our arms.
New Black Panther Party’s Philadelphia leader. hmm where Obama got 100%of the vote.
Look just check for yourselves to see the vote totals in Wiod County. Ohio in 2012 then tell us all what you found
Obama list in 4 red states and that proves ….. That it was only due to the voter ID law?@kitt:
Unfortunately the Federal Law only kicks in when it actually prevents someone from voting
No one said those clowns prevented them from voting
Better check up on that law and also please post for us the actual official voting results from Wood County Ohio
2012
That is one county where the right is always saying that there was massive voter fraud
@Redteam, #67:
So, where’s the republican equivalent of Snopes, that thoroughly debunks a supposedly endless series left wing lies with verifiable evidence?
There isn’t one.
The right needs to discredit Snopes, because they repeatedly expose the right’s b.s. as they have done here. Truth is dangerous to those who lie, when the evidence leaves absolutely no question about who has been lying.
I really enjoy it when republicans drop the party line and suddenly begin saying exactly what’s on their minds. Fasten your seat belt.
Obama has done pretty good actually. But don’t trust my word – trust the professional historians who rate presidents. Wiki has several compiled under the “Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States” article. Obama’s about 17th out of 44 – two down from Reagan. GWB about 34th of 44. It’s predicted Obama will top Reagan once he completes his 2nd term.
@Greg: Thanks for confirming that anything done to address voter fraud is characterized by the left as “suppression”. Yes, it is… suppression of fraud, which is what the left has come to completely rely on. Fraud in voting, fraud in campaigning, fraud in representing their record and fraud in news reporting is the means to hide the failure and corruption of liberalism and fighting reform is their lifeline.
@Grant: Don’t believe the lefty tripe. Worst economic recovery since the Great Depression. Only modern president to never reach 3% annual GDP growth… not even once. Added more debt than all other presidents combined. Lowest LFPR since the 70’s… Beyond a doubt Barack Obama is the worst president in modern history and possibly ever. Not to mention eviscerating American influence in the world, destroying race relations and eliminating the southern border. Check out this little infographic comparing Reagan and Obama...
@vince: That is what the left considers progress so, “great success”.
@vince: The left measures success differently. More people on government dependency programs equals a success for them. It translates into more votes which is the point of the game.
@Mully: The left also believes that if the mean old US would stop beating people up, everything would just be marvelous. So, weakening US power and influence around the world will allow the really nice people like the Russians, Chinese and Iranians do nice things.
Let me see if I have this straight, mass voter fraud got Obama elected, yet the hard core republicans have presented zero proof of the claims, other than they heard it somewhere, while the dems have provided multiple sources to debunk the claim. Oh, and any source that debunks the claim is a leftest liberal mouth piece, even though there is no actual data presented by the conservatives. Got it.
Obama is the worst president ever? He inherited the worst economic situation in American history since the great depression, thanks to policies from the previous 2 administrations; a negative landslide, if you will. His administration halted that landslide and started it back moving in the right direction. Did it suck for a lot of people? sure, but it is like blaming the janitor because someone shat on the floor.
I claim neither side of this debate, but laugh at the baseless statements made by the right, while claiming the left has their head in the sand. If someone is giving you sources and facts, and you claim they are tilted, maybe you are the one with your head in the sand.
This kind of ignorance is why the republicans cannot put a candidate in front of the American people that everyone doesn’t laugh at. Neither party’s candidates are great, so it becomes a lesser of 4 screw ups.
@Kenny: There it is!
@Kenny:
to become the only president EVER to not have a 3% GDP. the best he had was a 1.64.
No one has to debunk Snopes and Factcheck, they consistently debunk themselves. No one except liberals believe anything political from them.
I think we can all agree on that statement of yours, so we don’t need to spend any more time on that.
I realize you said that with a smile on your face, knowing that is is a completely baseless statement made by the left with nothing to corroborate it.
When you get an amen from the Rainbow crowd, as in 82, you know you’ve arrived in liberal circles.
Just heard on the news that a movie writer in Hollywood wrote a movie for Will Farrell. It is a comedy about Ronald Reagan with Alzheimer’s. Something only the warped mind of a liberal could do. Will Farrell said he has no interest in the movie. At least he recognizes failure of the highest order.
@Greg:
Most people recognize that propaganda machines are not profitable business.
@Grant:
@Redteam: The call to pull out of the EU spiking since our President went over there to urge them to stay in.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/04/28/brexit-brits-wanting-to-leave-the-eu-spikes-after-obama-tried-to-convince-them-to-stay-in-it-n2155123?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad=
I guess they see what an utter failure he is, and decided not to take his sage advise.
@kitt:
utter failure, very accurate description of Obozo.
Red Team ok don’t believe what snipes said
CHECK IT FOR
YOURSELF!!
And then report back to us on what the certified voting results were for Wood County Ohio then tell us how YOU showed Snopes
to be a liar
I always check pretty much everything
Do you?
@John:
Snipes,, LOL….. I was going to check them out in my electric car and the battery died after 9 miles and I’m stranded. Good thing my cell phone has good range.
Do you even check out your snake oil before you try to sell it? Solar energy and electric cars, two liberal industries that can only survive with taxpayers. I’ve got a good used Yugo, are you in the market? I’m sure you’ve checked them out and know what a spiffy deal they are. I understand they can be converted to electric fairly easily for a low price, around 20 K or so.
@Redteam: Speaking of utter failures Hillary decides to be both sexist and a bigoted racist in one very carefully scripted sentence.Clinton: I have experience with “men who sometimes get off the reservation”
Those that want the name of a football team changed were not amused..imagine that.
@kitt: But she’s a liberal and they’ll stick with her
@kitt: Hey, I just noticed she said: ” I have experience with “men who sometimes get off the reservation” Men? as in plural? I hadn’t heard that, but straight from her mouth, Men…….as in ‘more than one man’. Allrighty………
@Redteam: But but this is a war on men and slur against an entire people the native people of this very country, WTH. You know how fair the liberals are surely this is the end of her entire political career! Add this to calling a fetus a person??(cue dramatic music)
During their first one-on-one presidential debate, Hillary Clinton is going to run over Donald Trump like a Sherman tank. How do people not see this coming?
@Greg: What do you think would happen if she has to debate Cruz?
@kitt, #96:
Honestly? Pretty much the same thing, but for a different reason. Cruz has the debate skills of a competent lawyer, but he’s encumbered by his personality and histrionic mannerisms. Many in his own party can hardly tolerate him. Add to that the fact that his hard line conservative social positions render him highly vulnerable on a national stage before mainstream voters. I think a lot of women will find his positions totally unacceptable. Clinton would zero in on that vulnerability like a cruise missile. (Give me a point for refraining from the obvious pun.)
I think Hillary Clinton’s toughest opponent is probably the one she’s fighting off now: Bernie Sanders.
Just my opinion, of course.
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@Greg:
Soooo……..Hillary is a Sherman tank……..I bet she would love that description of her…..so feminine……
Let’s get that straight now: Greg-Hillary-Sherman-Tank. Ahhh, such a feminine scenario…..
Is that Rainbow banner across the front or back of that tank?
@Greg:
Everybody gotta have one….Right?