I am a California conservative. Believe it or not, there are a lot of us, especially in the rural outreaches of this beautiful state. But somehow California was immune from the conservative electoral sweep of the mid-term elections. Granted, we didn’t have true conservative contenders for governor, or for the Senator “Don’t Call Me Ma’am” spots. In fact, in spite of the fact that Meg Whitman was the founder and CEO of E-Bay, she was also a former devotee of Van Jones. Yikes!! I also think she ran a weak campaign. The story about the illegal alien housekeeper, who was miraculously represented by former Brown supporter and blood sucker Gloria All-Red, for “back wages” (chortle), was a deliberate opportunistic attack by Jerry Brown. Meg’s golden opportunity to fire back came when the recently “discovered” video of Brown emerged, admitting he lied and made sh*t up and had no plan the first time he ran for governor. Meg did use that clip in one of her commercials, but people STILL voted for him!! Why didn’t she run that ad every 5 minutes for the last 3-4 days of her campaign?? Her funds seemed bottomless, and this was one effective snapshot of who Jerry Brown really was.
And then there was the challenger to Senator “Don’t Call Me Ma’am”, Carly Fiorina. Former CEO and destroyer of the once incredibly great Hewlett Packard, who by the way has been my employer for the past 16 years. Yes, I survived the Carly years. I have many reasons to hate her. She was a train wreck for HP. And yet I still voted for her, to be clear, because I felt that I HAD TO vote against Babs. Again, Carly is not a true conservative, and I suspect is a RINO to the core in the vein of John McCain.
Getting back to the Governator… Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected after the very liberal Gray Davis, former Chief of Staff of, you guessed it, Gov Jerry Brown, was recalled out of office for totally screwing up. In particular, he cost Californians untold millions due to the “energy crisis” that was mostly contrived to bilk us taxpayers. Rolling brown-outs were tossed in, even in winter months, to try to convince us of the seriousness of the whole debacle. So Arnold comes riding in on his white horse, never mind that he had no experience. He was the bad-ass of Hollywood fame who was here to save the day. “I don’t need the money” he said, “so I won’t be beholden to any special interests”. Yes, we thought, we like this!! So Arnold gets elected and almost immediately takes a hard left turn. Well duh, he’s married to a Kennedy!!
Fast forward to November 2nd, 2010. Arnold defined RINO-ism. Meg was just about a carbon copy. Jerry Brown had name recognition, many voters were too young to remember his record, or were new to the state, or were voting illegally, or, my personal favorite, were part of the union machine that Jerry Brown himself created when he allowed the Public Sector to unionize!! Wow! The perfect storm.
So when I hear these morons in the Republican party talk about being more “centrist” and “moderate” I say SCREW YOU!! Look what your RINO-ness has cost us!! And not just in California. True conservatism is the only way. When this once great state crashes and burns into insolvency, which will probably be in 2011, then MAYBE people in this state will get a clue and vote accordingly. After all, even here, we have some strong Tea Party activists. But, the recipient class is fast out numbering the provider class here in California. We have something like 32% of the entire country’s welfare recipients. And Jerry Brown is all for amnesty and open borders and in spite of our tremendous budget deficits, wants to give illegals free college educations!! And Governor Moonbeam wants lots of “green” jobs. He strongly supports AB32 which is California’s version of Cap and Trade, due to go into effect in 2011. AB32 and Jerry Brown will be the death nell of this state. It is time to seriously think about voting with our feet. Texas is looking good to me.
Thanks for the legacy your RINO-ness. NOT!!!
It’s becoming clear that California will have to totally collapse before the idiots on the coast pull their collective heads out. It certainly looks like the final collapse should happen in the next two years.
Nice job PG, but what’s with all this dancing around, just tell them what you think! 😉
Off subject but can someone tell me just briefly who can stop the fed from printing money at will. I can’t find the answer anywhere else. The Flopping aces crew seem best informed.
Arnold was a plant, The kennedy clan was his puppet master all along. A true RINO, gave the conservatives a bad reputation, along with Snow , collins, and our back and forth rino Lindsey graham. Very frustrating to just need a couple votes to hold the line on healthcare bill and snow and collins vote with the dems. If they would have held it would never have even gotten to commitee.
Being liberal means never having to face reality. The election of Brown proves that.
You forgot to mention how the Assembly intentionally held up the budget 90+ days so to ensure the passage of prop 25 and now they can do anything they want with the few R’s in office having no say at all.
My initial reaction to our failure to take over the Senate and the statehouses in CA and IL was anger and disappointment. Upon further review, however, I believe that the results were absolutely the best possible outcome for the GOP. With the imbecile still in the White House, controlling the Senate with less than a veto proof majority in Congress would accomplish no more than the current balance and controlling both houses would set the first AH up to blame the GOP for a lack of progress in 2012. Regarding the state houses, do we really want Republicans to be govs in these states with democrat controlled legislatures? Don’t think so! These states will crash and burn, whoever is the governor (even Jesus). Let the Rats get all the credit. Might add NY to this group of democrat controlled basket cases. There will be no change in the number of reps from CA, so redistricting is moot. We hold the state governments in states to gain reps, TX, FL, et al. All in all the results couldn’t be better for the GOP. There is a God.
If you liked 2010, you’re gonna love 2012.
(Hughglass)
You missed something in Californication;
Redistricting will be done by people now thanks to Prop 20. CA landscape may change somewhat.
San Andreas Fault moving the Left Coast 20 miles east would be the best improvement though.
😆 I continue to inquire – with no responses – HOW Jerry Brown was even legally eligible to run for governor. He has already served two terms! And badly.
I lived in California when that leftwing pinhead was governor and I remember how much better things became after he was out of office! MILES better. The redistricting thing will change the landscape a great deal. The San Francisco pinheads will continue to be a problem, of course, but hey – nothing in life is perfect!
Gall
The Wikipedia ‘leak’ on the Fed …. or Wiki-leak for short:
Hey the ‘Cong(R)ess’ … That’s y’all soon isn’t it!? Well that’s the end of printing money then, isn’t it!?
And ‘ove(R)sight’ is like a socialist thingie, something the (according to Rush) ‘evil’ left uses to obstruct the f(R)ee-dumb of private enterprise, and in this case the private bankers that make up the Fed Board of Governors … Oversight is a lefty ‘evil’ and government is ‘bad’ so no oversight and letting them print money must be … errr …. ‘good’ …. (R)ight!?
Forget that … Who cares how something really works. You have T-bag-(R)z in Congress now. What with all your pu(R)ity election, ‘co(R)po(R)ate-money’, tested candidates, that’ll be the end of the Fed printing money in 2011, (R)ight!? … ’cause all that co(R)po(R)ate money for all the T-bag-(R)z wasn’t a sham, (R)ight!? Y’all weren’t dupes, (R)ight!? T-bag-(R) aren’t going to suddenly start to represent big business, and continue to print money, (R)ight!? Jim De Mint isn’t going to say within hours, ‘Raise the ceiling on Federal debt!’ … is he!? … But, but … he promised …
Snerd
PatriotGirl,
Nicely done overview of the California politicalscape.
Schwarzenegger rode into Sacramento on a 20 billion dollar Bond float white horse solution to California’s financial woes. This Hollywood steroid king is as far left as former Brown flunky Gray Davis. Davis wanted to raise taxes, and Mr. Steroids wanted more debt. Both geniuses fuelled California’s irreversible slide into the coming Federal Government bailout, . . . that slide that Brown started so royally.
Your reservations of Whitman are right on. She is a weak willed wimp with no principles, . . . those same principles that we’ve discussed that are so very present in some or the more colorful characters here on FA, such as Skook and Old Trooper 2. More thoughts on Whitman mental ineptitude: . . .EBay, Skype, Goldman, Morals And Principles
Congratulations for having the presence of mind to be in the employ of Hewlett Packard, a great company founded by two of the finest examples of what is best about America and what it can engender. Your suspicions of Fiorina’s RINOISM are well founded. Her ego’s eruption into self-righteousness during her battle with the Board of Directors added to the evidence that she has no mettle or wherewithal to run a great company. While at the helm of HP, she demonstrated that she had the vision of a knat.
There appears to be a dearth of conservative and principled leadership in California politics. You’re probably right, most voters just don’t remember what Brown really did to California. It’s safe to say, Brown is dumber than a rock. Brown may lead this beautiful State over the cliff, then the millions of Whinos will have no choice but to turn to reason.
Snerd Gronk, WE surely wont worry now, we have our best IN the right places,
AND they know how to fix the errors of the now scared DEMOCRATS,
OUR conservatives are the FRENDLY GIANTS, AMERICA was looking for.
take care, don’t let anyone take your name away.
Hey “W”arzone … Here’s a little newz from the ‘f(R)ont’
Well so much the ‘McInane’ earmarkz (R)-goo-Mint, eh?! The Friendly Giants seem to be back to the ‘old ways of Washington’, within hours. They aren’t going to compromise …. just ‘redefine’!
Apparently he was for it, before he was against it ….
Snerd
Snerd, are you trying to make up for your lack of honesty with cynicism and post volume?
S NERD G RONK: THE CONSERVATIVES have a plan to restore the SUPERPOWER AMERICA,
HEY, IF your with them try to redefine their agenda, which will be coming to yoyr EARS mark,
ONE at a time, no compromises:
SORRY to compromise your frame of mind,
bye
I blame Maria Schnieder, Arnolds wife for his change. He married into the Kennedy clan and it soon became apparent that he was not the one wearing the pants in the family.
I see snerd has been flinging his poo sice 2006 when his mommy got him internet access.
Aleric, I see a lot of people make that point about Maria.
But we’ve seen powerful men lose a few IQ points after bypass surgery before.
Look at Bill Clinton.
He is a mere shadow of his old self…..but nobody’s got the guts to tell him.
Same with Arnold.
Same surgery, same outcome, same fear of telling him.
Hard …
No … I am trying to make up for my lack of understand and my inability to address points directly with anecdotal comments … Or to be less sarcastic, I notice you made no comment on ‘the Mitch’ thingie … Or maybe you just didn’t ‘ear’ it right!
and “W”arzone …
Mitch and Orange-John just compromised. Apparently they are now saying the ‘No More Earmarks’ thingie, was referring to them liver spots on Mc’Canes’ ears and everyone thinks he should get rid of them, and the reason they kept saying it was that Mc’Cane’ don’t hear so good.
Anywayz, “W”arzone, I agree with you. There won’t be ‘No Compromise’ … there’ll just be nuance and redefinition …
Snerd
Look T-bag-(R)z, I am with you … Or more precisely I want you to become an even greater force within the (R) party. I hope we get a Rand and not a (R)and!
Why?
What’s my ‘angle’, as it were? Well the T-bag-(R) gave the (D)z the Senate.
Snerd
SNERD GRONK; NUANCES REDEFINITITION, YES for the RIGHT AGENDA ,
THE ONE THAT AMERICA ALWAYS HAD IN mind to preserve the CONSTITUTION.
AT THE SERVICE OF THE PEOPLE, by the people for the people,
LET anyone know this AGENDA,is bigger than you and THE DEMOCRATS.
From Wikipedia–the source you love to hate–regarding Brown’s 1973-1983 governership:
Governor Jerry Brown. A fiscally responsible liberal. California with a $5 billion budget surplus.
So, what happened? Refer to the discussion of Proposition 13, toward the end of the section linked up above. The beginning of California’s fiscal woes. A classic case of of cutting taxes without worrying where the lost revenues would come from.
Leave it to the republicans to screw things up.
“W”a(R)rzone …
Hey there “W”a(R), it was the NeoConz who wanted to ‘restore’ the U$A to sole Superpower status, and as everyone can clearly see, they blew it! Now look at where we (R) !!!
So though Clinton delivered them the government with a surplus, the NeoConz bankrupted the Treasury (2 wars and tax cuts for the (R)ich … ). They gave so much control to Multinational corporations (who by definition are not interested in ‘National’ agendas), I doubt the citizens of the U$A will regain control.
Eisenhower warned ‘US’ of the dangers the Military-Industrial-Complex posed for democracy, and now the T-bag-(R)z have become it’s cheerlead-(R)z. It is comparable in folly to the explorers trading trinkets for land with the First Nations.
Snerd
@Snerd Gronk:
Too bad you fell for that…. cuz it’s not true.
GREG: not fair you said “leave it to REPUBLICANS to screw things up;
THE majority DEMOCRATS who is sending THE family to INDIA, ON a agreed ASTRONOMICAL amount have already SCREWED UP the AMERICANS in those fews times:
So don’t come here to say the first line about the REPUBLICANS and implying
OUR CONSERVATIVES JUST ELECTED by the people on a mandate to return AMERICA to
a higher standard than what the DEMOCRATS who tried so hard to RUIN and DIVIDE by using the HATE OF the former PRESIDENT BUSH FROM the BEGINNING of this president inauguration,
also constantly using the RACE CARD ON the colour of the skin of people ALL EQUALY AMERICANS,
WHAT IS more to SCREW THAT has’nt been screw by the DEMOCRATS?
WE have smart people on this side ELECTED and they will do a good job.
watch it
Greg, you have no clue about how Moon bean came up with a surplus do you. Brown was totallyt against Prop 13 which saved California homeowners and left Califronia with this surpus. I know I live here and I experienced this miracle. Next time understand the real facts please.
Greg …
Apparently evidence of a Surplus, or even a surplus of evidence is contra-indicated. Words salads on the other hand …
T-bag-(R)z … Keep up the good work. We need more purity tests, not less. From what I see, you’re the (D)z best hope for 2012!
Snerd
@ Common Sense,
Yup, and Greg might have a chat with anyone who was building or funding a new business in California ever since Brown’s presence in office. You might learn something Greg, about why California is in serious trouble.
SNERD GRONK: YES, you have DOUPTS because you have been with the cynicals too long
ENOUGH to forget why you are in this SUPER AMERICA the jewel of the WORLD,
YOU lost touch with your LAWS of the land which was gain with the strugle of the ancesters
SPILLING their blood for your freedom of today, NOW you will have another view of commited AMERICANS, who are not letting THE country go to none other than where it was founded to be,
this is your firs lesson, bye
@ Common Sense, #25:
Feel free to enlighten me.
Achieving a surplus involves collecting total revenues that exceed total expenses. This is a difficult concept, involving the mysteries of arithmetic.
Democrats are often accused of believing in free lunch. Strangely enough, they’re not the ones who think deficits can be eliminated by cutting taxes, somehow forcing expenses to magically adjust themselves downward.
The whole deal is very simple:
If we want balanced budgets, enough taxes must be collected to pay all of the bills.
If we then believe that taxes are too high, we must first decide which expenses should be reduced. Once those reductions in expenses are made, taxes can be reduced to a corresponding degree.
Any other approach is b.s. The chronic deficits and skyrocketing debts that always follow drastic tax cuts clearly demonstrate the truth of that. This can be observed at every level of government.
Is there a favorite lefty site where all these ad hominum misspellings are grouped together for the use of leftist synchophants? (sp???)
I have seen Obama spelled 0bama (with a ZERO instead of a capital O) but it is simply an ad hominum.
I have seen Arnold spelled Ahnold, but, again, that is simply an ad hominum.
I have seen Hillary Clinton, when she was SPOTUS (spouse of the president of the United States) referred to as PIAPS (pig in a pants suit).
But, once again, all that is is name-calling, another ad hominum.
I think all name calling brings down the level of the discussion.
So, I will refrain from any back and forth with the poster who seems more intent on showing off all of his long list of ad hominums than he is with being substantive.
Why not let California have the government which it wants and let Texas have the government which it wants and let the people who want to live in California live in California and the people who want to live in Texas live in Texas?
Brown’s win had nothing at all to do with Arnold Schwartzenegger; it had to do with Meg Whitman’s ineptitude as a candidate, coupled with the leanings of the California electorate.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-brown-20101104,0,6066231.story
Predictions of California’s imminent demise and future collapse duly noted.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
Larry W. – #31,
Not sure what your point is about California, although your 1st paragraph suggests both a certain compliance, and approval of its state of affairs. Since you’ve taken to time to get a PhD, you must have capacity to think, therefore, the only inference a reader can make from the comment, cannot be right.
GREG, you wont see any trip to INDIA like this from the next PRESIDENT, who will care for the PEOPLE he is serving, DID you ever notice a person borrowing money from his poor family and going to INDIA with the money, while his family are stretch to make ends meets?,
SNERD, who’s TBAGrez?
What’s that about. A lie going half way round the world, before the truth puts it’s boots on in the morning … ?
Apparently the 200,000,000 amount came from someone? in India. Typical of Fox, it was unsourced, unresearch and reported as fact … but not the fact that 200,000,000 RUPEES equals about 5 million U$ (pretty standard for Presidential travel)
And what else Fox didn’t remind people of …
Speaking of the cost of Presidential travel, and by comparison:
Bush Sr. took 543 days in 4 years.
Carter took 79 days in 4 years.
Reagan took 335 days in 8 years.
Clinton took 152 days in 8 years.
These ‘trips’ were all done with the usual ‘security’ and commensurate cost. However, what are we hearing from Fax … ?
…. crickets ….
@James Raider (#32): First, ha ha. Adroit turn of phrase. Actually, as I’m sure that you know, people with post-graduate degrees are significantly less conservative than the general electorate. Are you old enough to remember Spiro Agnew and his “pointy headed liberals?”
Anyway, the point that I was making is that California marches to a different drummer, traditionally, and has been a leader in all manner of political actions, both liberal AND conservative. Examples of the latter are Proposition 13 (the property tax revolution) and malpractice reform, which has been in place, here in CA, for 30 years (without making a dent in either health care costs or “defensive medicine,” by the way).
The most recent example of this is California’s rejection of Prop 23. This would have repealed CO2 control legislation which was (and remains) far stronger than the Kyoto Treaty. Big oil wanted it killed. There were the same dire economic warnings against it with which everyone is familiar. Job killer. Won’t do anything to reduce global warming, Global warming is a left wing fantasy. etc. etc. yada yada.
Yet repeal of Prop 23 was DEFEATED by 21 points! Double the victory margins for Brown and Boxer, so this wasn’t just the pointy head liberals and welfare recipients. I haven’t seen the total vote breakdowns yet, but I’m sure that very sizable numbers of Republicans voted against repeal. It was simply the largest NO vote in the long and storied history of the California voter initiative process.
The point is that people who live in California are, well, a little different from those who live in the rest of the nation. Political “rules” which apply elsewhere just don’t play out the same way here.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
Larry wrote (among other things) The most recent example of this is California’s rejection of Prop 23. This would have repealed CO2 control legislation which was (and remains) far stronger than the Kyoto Treaty. Big oil wanted it killed. There were the same dire economic warnings against it with which everyone is familiar. Job killer. Won’t do anything to reduce global warming, Global warming is a left wing fantasy. etc. etc. yada yada.
Personally I am glad Prop 23 did NOT pass.
This way the people of CA are confronted with whatever might happen to their businesses if these CO2 limits are imposed now (or soon rather than when the economy is stronger).
We had CA lawmakers trying to push higher-than-federal mpg standards in CA cars and trucks but economics as well as the laws of physics stopped all of that.
There was a move afoot to force all cars in CA to have white roofs.
Something about global warming.
That, too, failed.
I wonder if our farmers in the San Joachin Valley will be allowed to have water?
Nano …
Yes … Water conservation used to be a communist plot too … or too expensive for business, a kooky liberal thingie …
Snerd
@Nan: I think that the reason higher MPG standards didn’t make it had more to do with auto industry complaints to the federal govt (over non-uniformity) and threats of lawsuits than to “economics” and “laws of physics.” Plus Arnold would probably have vetoed it. I don’t remember white roofs, but I do remember something about the type of window glass. None of this stuff passed.
P.S. Re Central Valley farmers. There already are water restrictions, some owing to endangered species act. Have you ever driven on the I-5, through the central valley? There are signs (put out by farmers) which say things like “this dust bowl brought to you courtesy of our federal government” and whatnot.
– LW/HB
Larry, thanks for reminding me about that auto glass.
Not only is it not produced …. yet ….it would be prohibitively expensive if it ever were produced and forced onto cars and trucks.
In the meantime a smallish volcano burped today and it’s gases incinerated over 100 Indonesian people with its 1,400′ Fahrenheit heat.
Overall, however, volcanoes cause the earth’s temperature to cool.
Ironic, isn’t it?
Nan I drove on the 5 the other day and it looks like half the fields are now under cultivation, some of them have planted millions of dollars worth of fruit trees, so they must have some type f assured water allocation.
The UN says it needs hundreds of billions to combat global warming. They want to tax international business deals to raise the funds and buy estancias in the tropics, they are jealous of Rangel.
JR better check that out on Breitbart. If Obama can’t get it done, the criminals at the UN will take their best shot.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.65d35f849629004f3f01ff977b2a3e33.741&show_article=1
@Skook (#39): Of the various things which can be done to mitigate the relentless rise in atmospheric CO2, preserving rain forests seems like pretty much of a no-brainer. Forests obviously have a huge effect on atmospheric carbon, as can be seen from the saw tooth curve of seasonal atmospheric CO2. If all it would take to preserve some from being turned into estancias is a paltry $100 billion, spread over the whole world (UN plan), it seems like a bargain to me. Plus, taxing international shipping would be a great deal for the USA, as, for example, China ships a lot more to us than we to them. If Chinese exports become more expensive, this helps our trade balance and China will have to eat a greater percent of the tax than us.
Of all the various socialist plots to destroy the USA, this is surely one of the least worrisome.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
Say Larry –
What causes ice ages?
@Wm
The theory is that there’s different sun exposure in different eras, as a result of regular irregularities in the earth’s orbit and degree of tilt towards the sun.
You don’t say this, but I presume that you want to segue into global warming theory. What’s happening now hasn’t happened in the past and is, therefore, unprecedented. We have massive amounts of carbon, sequestered underground for hundreds of millions of years, and it’s all being dug up and released into the atmosphere within an astonishingly short period of time (a couple hundred years).
So the earth’s climate since the last ice age up to the industrial revolution isn’t really relevant to the climate change argument.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
Who understands the Federal program, ”Build America Bonds?”
Under this program over 20% of California’s debt issuance during 2009 and over 30% of its debt issuance in 2010 to date has been subsidized by the federal government.
Under the program, the U.S. Treasury covers 35% of the interest paid by the bonds.
Without this program the interest cost of bonds for some states would have reached prohibitive levels.
Until now, California has been able to evade the need to rein in spending largely because the federal government enabled it to do so through record high federal allocations, and by creative accounting that put off funding well over a trillion dollars of state-employee pension and other retirement obligations.
With Jerry Brown as Gov and Obama as Pres they will play a game of kick the can down the road for as long as we all remain oblivious to the magnitude of the problem.
California is the new Detroit. The good thing, like Detroit, the responsibility of this state going down in flames will be with the Progressives, environmental Nazis. They can’t blame anyone else.
Larry,
“Of all the various socialist plots to destroy the USA, this is surely one of the least worrisome.”
This gets off the track of this post, however, given the conviction behind your statement, perhaps a reality check is useful – On Obama’s Go For Broke Cap And Trade Fantasies – right up your alley.
Not that it’s hugely meaningful, but is it safe to assume that you think countries such as China, or Russia, or maybe Uganda, will actually foot any of your “paltry $100 billion” bill? I’m sure this is directly in Putin’s sight line, and his check has already been certified. . . . So what you really want is for the American taxpayer to foot the bill, and you’re probably pleased that Obama has voiced a leaning toward that brilliant concept. No one else would.
Come on Larry. Get a grip. Implementing programs such as those that will reduce our pollution of our environment is a gradual process that has to be paid for with real cash, and has to consider human nature. Do you drive a car, Larry? Do you use electricity? Do you eat food you didn’t grow? Yes. So why make absurd statements on CO2 and promoting the shipment of hundreds of billions into a black hole? Self-righteousness is cheap, when someone else sweats for it.
When you force drastic, radical change assuming that evil corporations will dig into their coffers which you believe contain boundless hidden trillions of magic dollars, you drive these companies to find alternatives. You drive them out. Corporations will make gradual improvements as they are afforded. Quit trying to kill the goose.
Will Governor Moonbean2 be as good a Moonbeam1? Will ha give the unions their unfunded liabilities and make them good? Governor Moonbeam ruined Oakland, won’t protect us from illegals and is happy to let them vote.
Moonbeams Oakland Schools are a disaster – something California can look forward to
Skook,
It is very clear that the reversal of House of Representative control has occurred just in time to prevent numerous calamities from effecting irreversible damage on the Nation. Blind backing of the UN with untold billions being one of them.
I sure hope all the lawns in Southern California keep getting a lot of water
I love the median strips by UC Irvine they are so green
Why do we need to take water from lawns to have vegetables?
Our poor, our illegals, our welfare types would rather have veggies grown in Venezuela, Mexico or Peru.
then we can fill in the dams and return California to its pure natural state with SUV’s for the political leaders and Hollywood personalities.
Governor Brown has a lot of work ahead of him to bring California back to the 1820’s