“You can’t avoid these questions,” Dr. Emanuel said in an Aug. 16 Washington Post interview. “We had a big controversy in the United States when there was a limited number of dialysis machines. In Seattle, they appointed what they called a ‘God committee’ to choose who should get it, and that committee was eventually abandoned. Society ended up paying the whole bill for dialysis instead of having people make those decisions.”
Dr. Emanuel argues that to make such decisions, the focus cannot be only on the worth of the individual. He proposes adding the communitarian perspective to ensure that medical resources will be allocated in a way that keeps society going: “Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity—those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations—are to be socially guaranteed as basic. Covering services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic, and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.” (Hastings Center Report, November-December, 1996)
Dr Emanuel is Rahm Emanuel’s brother & when asked directly by the Washington Press Corps if Dr Emanuel had provided advice on healthcare plans to the Admin, Press Secretary Gibbs repeatedly said yes.
Baby Boomers beware. Social Security has already been cut (last week). In a few years it will give out more than it takes in, and then it will be gone. That means that today’s retiring members of the “Me Generation” will be short on cash, at the end of the line for healthcare, and-if this guy has his way-will be left to die when Alzheimers hits.
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Lying, cheating, commies!
Dr. Emanuel is a eugenecist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
Eugenics is “the study of, or belief in, the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics).”[2] Prominent in the late 19th century and the Progressive Era, eugenics became a core tenet of some of the policies behind Adolf Hitler’s Nazi regime.
Well, let’s see, DR EZ-Kill’s lifeboat ethics isn’t “women and children first,” instead it is “kill (or in PC parlance “withhold medical care from”) the elderly and children first”. This man is unarguably a monster. What does this say about Obama’s intelligence and culpability in choosing this miscreant? What about the phase known or should have known applied to our erstwhile savior AKA “the One”?
Heaven forbid we just allow REAL competition in the healthcare marektplace – then there would be plenty of docs, medicine and dialysis machines for anyone.
Congress needs to do probably two things: allow nationwide competition and institute tort reform – then they can step away and not be involved.
Socialized Euthanasia
Call it what you will.
If medical care is based on ‘worth’ of the person no congress critter would be authorized as much as a flu shot.
If this junk passes it will be just like everything else today. It’s not what you know (in this case what you need) It’s who you know. All the arms of the dem party will get all the care they want or need. The rest of us…not so much. This healthcare bill is a great way to punish and blackmail your enemies. No longer will the dems have to crawl around on their bellies trying to find out something to blackmail republicans…just threaten to refuse them or their families healthcare. Of course, as we all know, our president, congress and all this administration’ cronies are not covered by this. They have their own cadillac plan.
Real competition in healthcare is the true answer. The reason why we don’t have the real competition now is because of the medical monopoly which starts with medical school system. So the reason for high costs is too much government (licensing, education). Now we’ll increase the government to compensate for too much government?
Anyone heard the rumor Bill & Hill are in sequestered to write an outline proposal for OCare (or Teddy Care 2.0?).
Before the recess, there were also some articles about this along with crediting Daschle and Sen Rbrt Dole for penning another proposal…along with an article this week on Daschle.
In any case — keep your eye on Dr Ezekiel Emanuel. . .and Daschle.
You can already purchase insurance in other states and it has not helped prices come down, what it has done is allow insurance companies the opportunity to pick and choose who they will insure.
It is not a death panel, it is simply coverage for counseling for terminally ill elderly that will help them to understand all options available to them and it is up to them and their family to choose which route to take.
Funny how most people and most veteran’s are very happy with veteran’s government healthcare and just the thought of privatizing that makes them flip a wig, and the same people say that government can not do healthcare, seems like they are and have been doing it for a long time at least well enough that no one wants to privatize veteran’s healthcare.
What I am wondering if why all the lies about it are needed if this healthcare plan was bad the truth would suffice and there would not be all the lies and scare tactics.
@Nadie:
http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1025&context=ois_papers
Doctors, patients and family already make these decisions, we do not need the government or Obama’s eugenic supporters, or his 50 + boards to decide whether grandma needs a hip replacement or should just take a pain pill. Obama’s own words.
What isn’t funny is that government run healthcare is already going bankrupt whether “most people and most veterans” are happy with it or not. BTW, recall how happy our vets were with the condition of Walter Reese or the our wounded vets whose paper work was so bungled they were billed for their care?
Adding another trillion dollars to the mounting debt will burden our youth and their future, the USA will be unrecognizable from all who have enjoyed the freedom of purchasing a home or investing in their children’s future, their retirement so as to not be a burden on their children. The next generation will be slaves to the debt that is foolishly being piled up now.
You had no clue as to the legality of crossing state lines for health insurance, where you got that, who knows. I don’t wonder about your lack of ability to recognize what a lie or scare tactic is in this debate.
I kinda like the HMO process – intelligent Dr’s knowing what’s needed; intelligent insurance companies not wanting to spend frivolously. Perfect balance.