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We should all be worried, Big (Obama) brother is stalking all who disagree. WAKE up you Obama sheep al, you wont be immune, on the contrary you will be the first to go.
bigpapa
15 years ago
Stalinist tactics next????
Off to the camps with you if you dare disagree..
Scrapiron
15 years ago
It’s funny watching retarded three year olds run the country. Big question is what insane asylum loaned them to the white house? Dr’s should lose they’re jobs. The white house now says they have used Rush as long as they can get attention, isn’t that like the screaming brat we’ve all saw in a store laying in the floor screaming and beating their head on the floor, except when it don’t work the brats get up and walk away.
Everyone assumed O’Dumbo and MO were elitest. Man were we wrong, they are the king and queen of dork land.
Gregory Dittman
15 years ago
Obama’s staff and even Obama have basically admitted in ignoring the Hatch Act of 1939 by going after Rush and the Republicans. The penalty for abusing the Hatch Act is a fine and or firing. Obama even abused the Hatch Act by asking people to pay for Hillary’s political debt. Notice the Democrats don’t even care.
Obama and his minons do seem rather oversensitive to criticism. Well, I guess we should not have expected differently. After all, the world was supposed to bow at his feet…and my, it’s not cooperating.
I realize it’s an insult to Nixon. Perhaps I’ve spent too much time listening to liberal trolls. I’m starting to channel their moonbattery.
UPDATE:
Obama Administration moving full speed ahead on the attack train:
Post-Rush: Obama’s message war
By MIKE ALLEN | Politico
3/14/09 7:20 PM EDT
Beginning Sunday, the White House will harness every part of the Democratic Party’s machinery to defend President Obama’s budget and portray Republicans as reflexively political, according to party strategists.
A participant in the planning meetings described the push as a successor to Democrats’ message that Rush Limbaugh is the Republican Party leader. “We have exhausted the use of Rush as an attention-getter,” the official said.
David Plouffe, manager of Obama’s presidential race, helped design the strategy, which includes the most extensive activation since November of the campaign’s grassroots network. The database—which includes information for at least 10 million donors, supporters and volunteers—will now be used as a unique tool for governing, with former canvassers now being enlisted to mobilize support for the president’s legislative agenda.
Others involved in the planning included White House senior adviser David Axelrod; the DNC chairman, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine; and DNC Executive Director Jennifer O’Malley Dillon.
Sounds more like a plastic Tony Blair and his New Labour spin meisters in (former) Great Britain.
Watch the lingo turn brazenly 1984 over time, and get prepared to be amazed that no matter what depth they plunge to, it’ll always go lower in ways you’ve not imagined would be possible.
Common Sense
15 years ago
That article is an insult . . . to Richard Nixon. Obama is doing things just a frew months into his Presidency that presssage far worse things to come. If Obama and his administration feel the need to demonize people when Obama is popular, wait till the honeymoon is over. A desperate President in need of an enemy will have no trouble finding or inventing one.
ruaqtpi2
15 years ago
Please read this all the way through before you decide to chastise me!
Concerning Obammunism (or Obamaism):, it seems clear to me that lots of people would prefer a benevolent dictator over a self-proclaimed “free market capitalist pig” who’s only interested in his own family and friends, and has run this country into the ground.
At least, that’s the current state of affairs as portrayed by this country’s liberals (including not just the card-carrying liberals, but most “progressives” and 90% of the “independent” and “unbiased” media.) By extension, this also inludes people who believe what they hear on the evening “news” and from celebrity spokespeople, and are too lazy, disinterested, or feel too disenfranchised to care enough to do their own sanity check of what they hear from these limited sources. Especially during tough economic times, when jobs are scarce, a great number of individuals will be tempted to “give up” on the American dream, taking solace in the party most likely to institute, maintain or increase entitlements that provide disincentives to personal advancement through hard work. If you are repeatedly exposed to “evidence” that hard work gets you nowhere, and that you are entitled to “take back” the wealth that “the rich” have stolen from you, you are at high risk of developing “learned helplessness”, a psychological precursor and model for depression. It’s this learned helplessness that makes the disadvantaged unable to see that they have the ultimate control over their lives. This helplessness is institutionalized by the state as a means of keeping Leona Helmsley’s “little people” from actually reaching their dreams of self-actualization, and it helps the elite maintain their power and wealth. The leftist government then makes a big to-do about the compassion they have for the down-trodden, and threaten them with future pain should the “others” vote for “less compassionate” and oppressive Republican Party leaders.
This why the comparison of Obama to Nixon is not entirely unreasonable; both were higly visible in the media. Nixon was not the only crook to hold the office of POTUS, but he happened to be perfect fodder for the relatively young and rapidly growing television “news” industry. He set certain corruption “benchmarks” by which he and his administration could be compared to past and future presidents and administrations, but his biggest flaw was that he continued to maintain his innocence and lack of involvement amidst a growing pile of damning evidence to the contrary in the hands of the media. And since the media was predominantly populated by liberal reporters (some things don’t seem to change), Nixon’s Republican Party status set up what is now the classical “left-wing media vs. right-wing politicians” battle that we see almost every day.
Obviously then, the media are of immense help to those whom they favor. Therefore, it behooves the conservatives to point out to the media any incidents in which they were mistreated by Obama & Company or were made to look foolish by Obama’s flip-flopping. It’s also better for conservatives to avoid direct conflict with the media at large, Those in the media need to be reminded of the benefits of open, hard-hitting journalism that focuses equally on investigating suspicious activites of all segments of the potical spectrum.
Sorry for the rambling, but the present political environment, societal angst, and considerable media bias could (and hopefully will) be used as ideal reference material in higher education ethics and political science courses – assuming that the facts aren’t modified by textbook writers and editors with a fondness toward revisionist history.
The mistakes Nixon made were due to paranoia, not a desire to pilfer America. Watergate was his unwise response to the Leftists who were undermining America. It was wrong, and it was a mistake, but he thought he was doing it for the good of the Republic. Obama has no redeeming qualities, as far as eye can see.
Yeah, lets vilify Nixon, while the real dirt gets swept under the rug.
b1jetmech
15 years ago
Dave Noble,
Our medical records can soon be digitized in compliance to that much needed stimulus bill this country needed. When Rush’s medical records become digitized then they will be mistakenly be “leaked” to the MSM for to publish the next day. Now, I don’t know if Dana Priest of the Washington Post will publish them or Sen Patrick Leheay will leak them because people like these have no problem leaking sensitive military information to the public.
Sen. Chuck Schumer already got Michael steele’s credit info for anyone to see…where’s the NAACP?
EdGi
15 years ago
Dave, letting you know when Steeles records are stolen; 2006 by Schumers hitters (Podesta’s Kool Divas), Rushe’s medical records were done by the Democratic DA in the Oxycotin prescription thing (Dave, what prompted the investigation do you think? A confidential informant? really?) You might check the Joe the Plumber records seach, although, as you know, the Diva from DNC broad was acting completly on her own, right? Actually, the Plumbers were set up for the Pentagon Papers and the Dr’s office was actually Ellsbergs shrink. The plumbers did the Watergate DNC a year later. Part of the reason the GOP bailed on Nixon (what did he know and when) is that Sen Baker knew Nixon was guilty as hell of the Plumbers operation. The GOP bailed on a guilty leader, do you see anything to lead you to believe the Democrats would be as honest as Baker, Scott and Goldwater?
I’m embedding it and urging everyone to watch. It’s not very long:
@ruaqtpi2: No chastising from me. I think you captured it well.@EdGi: Dave doesn’t care if Rush’s privacy or Michael Steele’s is violated. In fact, it’s open season on every conservative as illustrated by the Joe the Plumber leak.
Today’s Obamatons are the new fascists who demand 100% adherence to their creed or they will personally destroy you by any means fair or foul.
Dave Noble
15 years ago
Mike,
What office does Bill Ayers hold in the Obama administration? In what meaningful sense is he one of Obama’s minions? Just because you can put a response together, doesn’t mean it makes any sense.
B1jetmech,
When the leak occurs let me know. Until then you’re just speculating.
Ed,
I am familiar with the details of the Plumbers. If ou want to take credit for the Republicans rightly and prudently abandoning Nixon, fine. The bottomline is he did what he did. Obama has done nothing comparable. Therefore the thesis of this post is groundless.
Wow – the list of who Obama gets compared to keeps on growing – Lincoln, FDR, Carter, Stalin, Nixon. As far as I can see Obama is getting criticised in the MSM and no modern President has been in office without lots of daily criticism. Of course the criticism isn’t enough for most of you on here – mainly because most people are as political nor as right wing as yourselves.
And as for the usual carping about left wing journalism (file alongside lefty education) – then why don’t more ‘right-wingers’ become journalists, start up newspapers, TV stations etc. If there is a big demand then the free market will fill it.
@GaffaUK: I notice you have a tendency to wish to veer off topic when the conclusions presented in the post are unassailable but I will indulge you just this once.
“why don’t more ‘right-wingers’ become journalists, start up newspapers, TV stations etc. If there is a big demand then the free market will fill it.”
You might be aware that the print and broadcast media is dominated by liberals with the exception of talk radio and Fox News (which truly is more centrist than it’s competitors).
But those two areas are the ones experiencing growth in most areas unlike the falling circulation and viewership of liberal dominated media.
Still, you try and walk into a newspaper office in this country and admit you are conservative and see if they offer you a job.
ditto
15 years ago
I concur that the digitizing our medical records will surely bring loss of 4th amendment privacy rights.
We know full well after this last election cycle that Democrats will dig up anything possible on Republicans (whether true, partial truth half truth or total fabrication,) and release that information in widespread propaganda smear attack programs. They will go so far as to abuse offices of public trust to gain ‘protected’ information on opponents. Then disseminate that information to discredit any who would dare question or oppose them.
They will not however vett their own comrades. They will instead join forces to protest any questioning of their own, and count on their associated MSM propaganda ministry to ignore form of investigative reporting on their favored ones.
How is this not like the practices of the KGB, The Nazi party, Banana Republic leaders and other totalitarian regimes?
Wow! You really are a naive one, aren’t you! (…or a Lefty, or heavily influenced by them, judging by your criticisms.)
I mean, so we can’t criticize the Left, just because we are Conservative? And what’s wrong with blogs, instead of newspapers? People aren’t buying newspapers anymore. Do you have any idea how much money it takes to start a TV station? As to “demand” look at the failed lefty “Air America” compared with the successful Rush Limbaugh. That proves the demand is there, but one also has to be a showman in addition to being right/Right, so it isn’t for all of us. But for now blogs are free, and reach a lot of people, so how anyone could find fault the way you do makes no sense. You sound like the old Tokyo Rose, “Give it up G.I. You can’t win. You are doing it all wrong. Why don’t you just go home and be happy?”
Comments like that last one of yours are just too silly.
Oh, and why don’t more of us become journalists? If you haven’t flunked out of journalism school for being Conservative, you would end up being brainwashed into being one of them. They are all little Walter Krankhites (sp error deliberate) http://www.usasurvival.org/ck07.20.07.shtml
They are nearly all socialists.
Dave Noble
15 years ago
Ditto,
“How is this not like the practices of the KGB, The Nazi party, Banana Republic leaders and other totalitarian regimes?”
Why, of course, if what you fantasize about really happened, then the Obama administration would be no different than any other totalitarian regime. But it hasn’t happened. For now it is no more than your speculation.
If America were the England of 1984, then it would be a dystopian nightmare. But George Orwell, brilliant writer that he was, did not describe the real England of 1984. That is true, even though England today is a socialist country by the lights of the American right.
It isn’t yet, but that’s where it’s headed. Hitler needed to consolidate power before he showed how evil he was. Same with ZeroB. Give him time, he’s working on it.
Also, billions to bail out Dubai, nearly a billion to rebuild the terror infrastructure of Gaza, millions for abortions in foreign countries, . . . . waste waste waste waste waste! And all at a time when America is hurting, because of Democrap policies which he supports, and even participated in.
Yep, he’s your guy all right, he hasn’t got a clue either. Or, he’s doing it deliberately to make a hostile takeover easier to accomplish when he declares martial law. Chaos is the tool of tirants, and chaos is what he advised his cousin Odingbat to use. He did, and thousands were murdered, but Odingo got the power sharing that he wanted, at the expence of Kenyan democracy.
The point is that if he’s not above using violence for political gain in Kenya, he will certainly be willing to use it here, when the time is right.
Hard Right
15 years ago
Liberal fascism? Shocked I am………..not. They are THE MOST intolerant people.
Do you really think it’s just a coincidence that they admire tyrants and mass
murderers who murdered/tortured/jailed their political opponents?
@Mike’s America
Well tangents are pretty common on such forums…and no doubt you done a fair few in the past. Can’t such right-wing journalists walk into a rightwing newspaper office? There’s always papers owned by Rupert Murdoch. Or better still, as I say, those Republicans with enough money (and I’m sure there are a fair few) – start up more rightwing newspapers and media outlets (TV, radio, internet, whatever). However can a newspaper properietor decide whether to hire a journalist on their views? Surely you wouldn’t the big bad government to put in/or enforce laws to prevent this?
@yonason
I’m not saying you can’t criticise the left at all. I’m just saying it a biring tiring hearing all the boo hoo about alledge socialist domination of the media. I’m just wondering – if the majority of journalists are such lefties and if that is so – why is that? There’s nothing wrong with blogs – I wasn’t criticising blogs. And I’m not saying you as an individual or any individuals on here should be journalists or moguls – ‘cos you need talent and money. I’m just saying with approx 50% of the voting US being Republican in a democratic free country – then there should be enough talent and money to meet such a demand. If the lefties have taken over the MSM – then it’s because you let ’em.
lol – as for Tokyo Rose – you got it all wrong again. I’m not saying quit, or you shouldn’t be blogging – I am saying the Right as a whole should stop wasting time moaning about left-wing bias (as if there wasn’t right-wing alternatives) and fight it by creating their own right wing media to the same scale.
Maybe there isn’t such a big bias as you guys claim and what bias there is maybe, and this is just a theory, conservatives are more interested in making money than reporting stories. So although you could make big bucks at the top of the media – you will still probably on average earn more money in the city than at newspapers etc. Maybe those attracted to English and arts are more likely to err on the left? Are there any disciplines in life which are overly dominated by right-wingers to a negative result?
Anyway – where are these schools which are flunking conservative journalist and I reckon you must be pretty lame-brained to go to a journalist school and become brainwashed into changing your political opinions by 180 degrees.
“where are these schools which are flunking conservative journalist and I reckon you must be pretty lame-brained to go to a journalist school and become brainwashed into changing your political opinions by 180 degrees.”
And why do you always twist things out of recognition the way Leftists always do?
Dave Noble (INRE Michael Steele’s financial records): When the leak occurs let me know. Until then you’re just speculating.
Good gawd, man… you set questionable standards for acceptable crime.
The DNC Senatorial Campaign Committee lifted Michael Steele’s social security number and used it to obtain his credit report for political purposes when he was MD’s Lt. Gov a few years back. Chuckie Schumer was the chair of that committee.
But of course, the “buck” didn’t stop with “Chuck”. (Probably because his name wasn’t George W. Bush….) A young woman took the fall for him, and negotiated some community service in exchange for getting the charges dropped. hummmm… wonder who helped out with that? I daresay identity theft is taken more seriously for the rest of us.
And all that was just for a Senate campaign…. imagine when the stakes are much larger.
But I guess this is all okay with you since they didn’t leak his SSN to the media, eh? You’re an embarrassment.
And Rush’s medical details were already leaked to the media… first by his housekeeper to the Enquirer. Then when he admitted having a drug addiction in Oct 2003, the DA decided to seize his medical records (and release some details of them to the prosecutors) in the following months. The search warrant, available to the public, contained some medical details that should be private. Where were you?
Gaffa: And as for the usual carping about left wing journalism (file alongside lefty education) – then why don’t more ‘right-wingers’ become journalists, start up newspapers, TV stations etc. If there is a big demand then the free market will fill it.
You’re a little behind the times. The top talk radio hosts are three conservatives. The cable news broadcast with the largest viewing audiences is that “right wing” station, Fox News.
I’d say the free market has spoken, and the demand is being filled. But there are more numbers of the left slanted media. Conservative and centrist views don’t have as *many* forums. Why do you think they are trying to get the fairness doctrine reinstated in three to four steps of stealth legislation? To get rid of the powerful few.
ditto
15 years ago
Learn from history Dave. The erosion or suspension of the people’s rights has always eventually lead to despotic totalitarianism, and even those who supported the change in the government will find they are not safe or immune to it’s abuses.
Those who wrote our Constitution understood this. Which is why they insisted on a Bill of Rights to protect ALL of those Rights. Far to many in Washington have ignored their oath of office (to protect and uphold the Constitution,) and conspired to water down our rights for their own political agendas.
ruaqtpi2
15 years ago
Yonason,
I’m not always as clear as I’d like to be. Concerning:
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@ruaqtpi2:
Ho, Hum.
The mistakes Nixon made were due to paranoia, not a desire to pilfer America. Watergate was his unwise response to the Leftists who were undermining America. It was wrong, and it was a mistake, but he thought he was doing it for the good of the Republic. Obama has no redeeming qualities, as far as eye can see.
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I agree with you. Nixon was right to be paranoid, but that doesn’t completely excuse him from his actions. In my opinion, he was no different than many politicians before or after him; he just happened to get caught. Having his secretary erase 18 minutes of tape recordings was just as damning as the rest of the charges against him, so there’s no need to treat him as being above the fray. I liked “Tricky Dick”, certainly much more than some of his detractors, but the fact remains that he engaged in criminal activity and also conspired to cover up that activity and his involvement. He was no saint, but by the same token no more of a sinner than many of his peers.
I think it’s an exaggeration to state that Obama has absolutely no redeeming qualities; he did have enough of a sense of expediency to get Jeremiah White out of the pisture as soon as possible. I would, however, agree that Obama is sorely lacking in the qualities that would make a person a good president.
“…that doesn’t completely excuse him from his actions.”
…which is why I said, “It was wrong.”, with the caveat that at least he THOUGHT he was doing it for the good of the country. And G-d forbid I ever suspect Obama of harboring such a “thought.”
…[Obama] did have enough of a sense of expediency to get Jeremiah White out of the pisture as soon as possible”
That was POLITICAL expediency in order to get elected. It was not for the good of the country, but for his own personal gain. It is the equivalent of Nixon erasing the tapes. It was insincere @$$-covering. You have to do a lot better than that to show MEANINGFUL accomplishment, which is what I meant by “redeeming qualities.”
And now he’s doing that to America, as many of us suspected he would. http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/03/mission-accomplished-obama.html
Nixon would never in his wildest dreams think of doing that, and if he did it accidentally, he would actually have regretted it. Not Obama. Sociopaths have no conscience.
“…even those who supported the change in the government will find they are not safe or immune to it’s abuses.”
The useful idiots never are. In fact, they are often the first to go, as they know too much, and could spill the beans if they decide they like someone else. In order to make a new past, first you erase the old. And the quickest way to do that is eliminate those who know what the real past was.
If a Fairness Doctrine did apply to all media I’m not sure how that then only affects Conservatives. Besides I am against a Fairness Doctrine. Because if you believe in free speech then anyone should be able to present their view as long as it is lawful (e.g. doesn’t break laws on slander etc). Ideally programs which do allow the people who they are criticising to come on are better in my opinion. To only preach to the converted is pretty boring.
@yonason
Your examples of where journalist schools refuse students because of their conservative views is fundamentally flawed. So Crondike has a school. And because he is left you made the classic assumption that therefore he imposes that on others. And a journalist who is refuses to speak at a high school becuase he criticised a teacher union isn’t the same either obviously. As for leftist – well I in the past I have voted for John Major, Paddy Ashdown (twice) and Charles Kennedy in the UK. That is once for Conservative and three times for Liberals but never for Labour – i.e. Kinnock & Blair (who are/were socialists). I consider myself an economic liberal – slightly to the right of centre. I believe in restricting welfare and I’m against big government. However no doubt – as I’m not a conservative therefore in your eyes no doubt I’m a big commie;)
@MataHarley
Good – so if the Right is filling the void then when can the boring lefty MSM carping stop? I’m pretty sure the left also complains about the right-wing dominated media. Basically it seem both sides want the media to only spout their views.
Gaffa: Good – so if the Right is filling the void then when can the boring lefty MSM carping stop? I’m pretty sure the left also complains about the right-wing dominated media. Basically it seem both sides want the media to only spout their views.
I’m not sure it will ever stop, Gaffa. Bad reporting remains bad journalism and reporting… despite the perceived slant.
But you miss the point of the unbalanced coverage… which you call “carping”. The largest listenership belongs to FOX and conservative radio talk shows. But they are the “minority” media. Meaning you have FOX against ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR etal. The conservative “voice”… if you can call Fox that, as it has mixed shows… from conservative to centrist, and a few liberals too, like Greta…. is most certainly in the minority. And the US voter only listens to those that scream the loudest. Meaning, of course, the majority of voices.
Despite all that, I am not for a “fairness” doctrine. But it is interesting that the progressive liberals want to use it to shut down the powerful few, and the conservatives… very much against it… *should* be the beneficiaries.
“you made the classic assumption that therefore he imposes that on others”
The son of a @#%#@$ lied to America for years pretending he was an impartial observer, while he was a closet Commie the whole time. If you watch the film, you see he proudly admits it. Hillary praises him for it. These are not people who are going to be tolerant of views other than their own. There are plenty of stories about students who can’t deviate from the professor’s Left wing slant, or they flunk. It’s well known. Just because you don’t like the one illustration I posted doesn’t mean it’s not true. Get off your lazy butt and do some actual work digging this stuff out, instead of making things up based on Leftist dissinformation.
1st — an appology, sort of… the “lazy butt” thing was a bit much. Just because you’re so wrong so often doesn’t mean your lazy. You may be, but I don’t yet have enough information to make that determination with certainty. So, until I know for sure, I withdraw that assertion.
Lopez: When did you first notice the “intolerance” of academia?
Horowitz: “Intolerance” is a pretty mild word for what’s happened to entire departments that have been transformed into political parties that would give the Communist Party a run for its radical money. It was probably in 1992, when I invited myself onto a panel at a conference at the University of Michigan called “The PC Frame-Up” which was funded by 14 academic departments at the school.
So, really, you aren’t aware of any problem? Like Barney Frank, and cohorts, who saw no problem with Franny & Freddie, you think everything is just fine in academic institutions in the West?
“I consider myself an economic liberal – slightly to the right of centre. I believe in restricting welfare and I’m against big government. However no doubt – as I’m not a conservative therefore in your eyes no doubt I’m a big commie;)” — GaffaUK
No, in fact from what I read of their bios, some of the Crew of Flopping Aces describe themselves as such, so you are in some good company there. In fact, from your description of your voting behavior, you’re a lot more “Conservative” than some of your writing reflects. I have the same problem in reverse. I’m a lot less radical in my behavior than I show in my writing. Frequently I’ve had online spats with friends, but when we talked face to face we were able to resolve our imagined differences in very short order. But developing a style of writing that prevents such misunderstanding isn’t easy for me, though it is on my “to do” list. And, believe it or not, I have made a bit of progress, though I have a long way to go, …as do many others, I’m sure.
Basically it seem both sides want the media to only spout their views.
…that’s a perfect example of making something up. Most on the Right would be perfectly happy if the media went back to reporting facts instead of rendering opinions and complicated nuanced word portraits of their own fantasies.
I remember listening to the BBC back in the early 1970’s when, in a few minutes I had a good mental image of what was going on in the world, just from a few facts, none of which were interpreted, which allowed me to actually think for myself about what they might mean.
Now they have to give reasons for everything, which most people accept as true without question. And even if you doubt the interpretation, it’s still stuck in your brain, like it or not (which is why I don’t watch TV news anymore). And with all the time spent explaining the news, they have to limit what they tell, because they just can’t fit as many facts in, which means you get less news and more garbage.
In short. Just give me the facts, and spare me the fantasy. Then, I can choose which editorial comments are consistent with my interpretation of those facts.
Come on! Richard Nixon doesn’t deserve that.
We should all be worried, Big (Obama) brother is stalking all who disagree. WAKE up you Obama sheep al, you wont be immune, on the contrary you will be the first to go.
Stalinist tactics next????
Off to the camps with you if you dare disagree..
It’s funny watching retarded three year olds run the country. Big question is what insane asylum loaned them to the white house? Dr’s should lose they’re jobs. The white house now says they have used Rush as long as they can get attention, isn’t that like the screaming brat we’ve all saw in a store laying in the floor screaming and beating their head on the floor, except when it don’t work the brats get up and walk away.
Everyone assumed O’Dumbo and MO were elitest. Man were we wrong, they are the king and queen of dork land.
Obama’s staff and even Obama have basically admitted in ignoring the Hatch Act of 1939 by going after Rush and the Republicans. The penalty for abusing the Hatch Act is a fine and or firing. Obama even abused the Hatch Act by asking people to pay for Hillary’s political debt. Notice the Democrats don’t even care.
Obama and his minons do seem rather oversensitive to criticism. Well, I guess we should not have expected differently. After all, the world was supposed to bow at his feet…and my, it’s not cooperating.
“Is Obama the New Nixon?”
Heck no. Nixon actually had some redeeming qualities.
http://www.presidentialpetmuseum.com/presidents/37RN.htm
Obama has, as far as I can tell, zero, zip, nada, zilch.
Okay, I’ll bite…..what’s on the “secret tapes”????
When Obamas minions steal Rush’s medical records or break into Michael Steele’s office, let me know.
@Richard:
@yonason:
I realize it’s an insult to Nixon. Perhaps I’ve spent too much time listening to liberal trolls. I’m starting to channel their moonbattery.
UPDATE:
Obama Administration moving full speed ahead on the attack train:
@Dave Noble:
You’re right Dave. Thus far we only have Obama minions who admit blowing up government buildings and conspiring to kill police officers.
@Mike’s America:
WE’RE IN TROUBLE. BETTER ACTIVATE OUR BASE…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvboMDM6fIE&eurl=http://www.moonbattery.com/
FRY ‘EM!
Obammunism is for ignorant people.
Taking the train to the Obama-Oprah show is not going to help the ignorant part.
@bill-tb:
Obammunism, sometimes also know as Obamaism
http://obamaism.blogspot.com/
…in order that the foos have no excuse for remaining ignant.
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Let the dismantling of America begin!
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/03/023064.php
Sounds more like a plastic Tony Blair and his New Labour spin meisters in (former) Great Britain.
Watch the lingo turn brazenly 1984 over time, and get prepared to be amazed that no matter what depth they plunge to, it’ll always go lower in ways you’ve not imagined would be possible.
That article is an insult . . . to Richard Nixon. Obama is doing things just a frew months into his Presidency that presssage far worse things to come. If Obama and his administration feel the need to demonize people when Obama is popular, wait till the honeymoon is over. A desperate President in need of an enemy will have no trouble finding or inventing one.
Please read this all the way through before you decide to chastise me!
Concerning Obammunism (or Obamaism):, it seems clear to me that lots of people would prefer a benevolent dictator over a self-proclaimed “free market capitalist pig” who’s only interested in his own family and friends, and has run this country into the ground.
At least, that’s the current state of affairs as portrayed by this country’s liberals (including not just the card-carrying liberals, but most “progressives” and 90% of the “independent” and “unbiased” media.) By extension, this also inludes people who believe what they hear on the evening “news” and from celebrity spokespeople, and are too lazy, disinterested, or feel too disenfranchised to care enough to do their own sanity check of what they hear from these limited sources. Especially during tough economic times, when jobs are scarce, a great number of individuals will be tempted to “give up” on the American dream, taking solace in the party most likely to institute, maintain or increase entitlements that provide disincentives to personal advancement through hard work. If you are repeatedly exposed to “evidence” that hard work gets you nowhere, and that you are entitled to “take back” the wealth that “the rich” have stolen from you, you are at high risk of developing “learned helplessness”, a psychological precursor and model for depression. It’s this learned helplessness that makes the disadvantaged unable to see that they have the ultimate control over their lives. This helplessness is institutionalized by the state as a means of keeping Leona Helmsley’s “little people” from actually reaching their dreams of self-actualization, and it helps the elite maintain their power and wealth. The leftist government then makes a big to-do about the compassion they have for the down-trodden, and threaten them with future pain should the “others” vote for “less compassionate” and oppressive Republican Party leaders.
This why the comparison of Obama to Nixon is not entirely unreasonable; both were higly visible in the media. Nixon was not the only crook to hold the office of POTUS, but he happened to be perfect fodder for the relatively young and rapidly growing television “news” industry. He set certain corruption “benchmarks” by which he and his administration could be compared to past and future presidents and administrations, but his biggest flaw was that he continued to maintain his innocence and lack of involvement amidst a growing pile of damning evidence to the contrary in the hands of the media. And since the media was predominantly populated by liberal reporters (some things don’t seem to change), Nixon’s Republican Party status set up what is now the classical “left-wing media vs. right-wing politicians” battle that we see almost every day.
Obviously then, the media are of immense help to those whom they favor. Therefore, it behooves the conservatives to point out to the media any incidents in which they were mistreated by Obama & Company or were made to look foolish by Obama’s flip-flopping. It’s also better for conservatives to avoid direct conflict with the media at large, Those in the media need to be reminded of the benefits of open, hard-hitting journalism that focuses equally on investigating suspicious activites of all segments of the potical spectrum.
Sorry for the rambling, but the present political environment, societal angst, and considerable media bias could (and hopefully will) be used as ideal reference material in higher education ethics and political science courses – assuming that the facts aren’t modified by textbook writers and editors with a fondness toward revisionist history.
Let the chastising begin!
Jeff V
@ruaqtpi2:
Ho, Hum.
The mistakes Nixon made were due to paranoia, not a desire to pilfer America. Watergate was his unwise response to the Leftists who were undermining America. It was wrong, and it was a mistake, but he thought he was doing it for the good of the Republic. Obama has no redeeming qualities, as far as eye can see.
Oh, and guess what, Nixon was right about them.
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/tag/watergate/
They were, and are, not only his enemies, but enemies of the free America most Americans want, which is why they always have to lie about what their intentions are and use fraud to get elected. And they don’t have a problem with breakins for political purposes, either…
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065034/posts
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/dems-tap-kerrys-watergate-burglar-brother
Yeah, lets vilify Nixon, while the real dirt gets swept under the rug.
Dave Noble,
Our medical records can soon be digitized in compliance to that much needed stimulus bill this country needed. When Rush’s medical records become digitized then they will be mistakenly be “leaked” to the MSM for to publish the next day. Now, I don’t know if Dana Priest of the Washington Post will publish them or Sen Patrick Leheay will leak them because people like these have no problem leaking sensitive military information to the public.
Sen. Chuck Schumer already got Michael steele’s credit info for anyone to see…where’s the NAACP?
Dave, letting you know when Steeles records are stolen; 2006 by Schumers hitters (Podesta’s Kool Divas), Rushe’s medical records were done by the Democratic DA in the Oxycotin prescription thing (Dave, what prompted the investigation do you think? A confidential informant? really?) You might check the Joe the Plumber records seach, although, as you know, the Diva from DNC broad was acting completly on her own, right? Actually, the Plumbers were set up for the Pentagon Papers and the Dr’s office was actually Ellsbergs shrink. The plumbers did the Watergate DNC a year later. Part of the reason the GOP bailed on Nixon (what did he know and when) is that Sen Baker knew Nixon was guilty as hell of the Plumbers operation. The GOP bailed on a guilty leader, do you see anything to lead you to believe the Democrats would be as honest as Baker, Scott and Goldwater?
@yonason: Really excellent find there!
I’m embedding it and urging everyone to watch. It’s not very long:
@ruaqtpi2: No chastising from me. I think you captured it well.@EdGi: Dave doesn’t care if Rush’s privacy or Michael Steele’s is violated. In fact, it’s open season on every conservative as illustrated by the Joe the Plumber leak.
Today’s Obamatons are the new fascists who demand 100% adherence to their creed or they will personally destroy you by any means fair or foul.
Mike,
What office does Bill Ayers hold in the Obama administration? In what meaningful sense is he one of Obama’s minions? Just because you can put a response together, doesn’t mean it makes any sense.
B1jetmech,
When the leak occurs let me know. Until then you’re just speculating.
Ed,
I am familiar with the details of the Plumbers. If ou want to take credit for the Republicans rightly and prudently abandoning Nixon, fine. The bottomline is he did what he did. Obama has done nothing comparable. Therefore the thesis of this post is groundless.
@Dave Noble: You think all those Cubans who were part of the Watergate break in were on the White House payroll?
But you are correct. I should not have called Bill Ayers a minion. More like Obama’s mentor.
Actually that’s worse though right?
Wow – the list of who Obama gets compared to keeps on growing – Lincoln, FDR, Carter, Stalin, Nixon. As far as I can see Obama is getting criticised in the MSM and no modern President has been in office without lots of daily criticism. Of course the criticism isn’t enough for most of you on here – mainly because most people are as political nor as right wing as yourselves.
And as for the usual carping about left wing journalism (file alongside lefty education) – then why don’t more ‘right-wingers’ become journalists, start up newspapers, TV stations etc. If there is a big demand then the free market will fill it.
@GaffaUK: I notice you have a tendency to wish to veer off topic when the conclusions presented in the post are unassailable but I will indulge you just this once.
“why don’t more ‘right-wingers’ become journalists, start up newspapers, TV stations etc. If there is a big demand then the free market will fill it.”
You might be aware that the print and broadcast media is dominated by liberals with the exception of talk radio and Fox News (which truly is more centrist than it’s competitors).
But those two areas are the ones experiencing growth in most areas unlike the falling circulation and viewership of liberal dominated media.
Still, you try and walk into a newspaper office in this country and admit you are conservative and see if they offer you a job.
I concur that the digitizing our medical records will surely bring loss of 4th amendment privacy rights.
We know full well after this last election cycle that Democrats will dig up anything possible on Republicans (whether true, partial truth half truth or total fabrication,) and release that information in widespread propaganda smear attack programs. They will go so far as to abuse offices of public trust to gain ‘protected’ information on opponents. Then disseminate that information to discredit any who would dare question or oppose them.
They will not however vett their own comrades. They will instead join forces to protest any questioning of their own, and count on their associated MSM propaganda ministry to ignore form of investigative reporting on their favored ones.
How is this not like the practices of the KGB, The Nazi party, Banana Republic leaders and other totalitarian regimes?
@GaffaUK:
Wow! You really are a naive one, aren’t you! (…or a Lefty, or heavily influenced by them, judging by your criticisms.)
I mean, so we can’t criticize the Left, just because we are Conservative? And what’s wrong with blogs, instead of newspapers? People aren’t buying newspapers anymore. Do you have any idea how much money it takes to start a TV station? As to “demand” look at the failed lefty “Air America” compared with the successful Rush Limbaugh. That proves the demand is there, but one also has to be a showman in addition to being right/Right, so it isn’t for all of us. But for now blogs are free, and reach a lot of people, so how anyone could find fault the way you do makes no sense. You sound like the old Tokyo Rose, “Give it up G.I. You can’t win. You are doing it all wrong. Why don’t you just go home and be happy?”
Comments like that last one of yours are just too silly.
Oh, and why don’t more of us become journalists? If you haven’t flunked out of journalism school for being Conservative, you would end up being brainwashed into being one of them. They are all little Walter Krankhites (sp error deliberate)
http://www.usasurvival.org/ck07.20.07.shtml
They are nearly all socialists.
Ditto,
“How is this not like the practices of the KGB, The Nazi party, Banana Republic leaders and other totalitarian regimes?”
Why, of course, if what you fantasize about really happened, then the Obama administration would be no different than any other totalitarian regime. But it hasn’t happened. For now it is no more than your speculation.
If America were the England of 1984, then it would be a dystopian nightmare. But George Orwell, brilliant writer that he was, did not describe the real England of 1984. That is true, even though England today is a socialist country by the lights of the American right.
Heh.
That’s funny.
Someone get Joseph Wurzelbacher on the phone because Dave Noble says that what happened to him didn’t really happen.
Dave, who ya think ya foolin’?
@Dave Noble:
It isn’t yet, but that’s where it’s headed. Hitler needed to consolidate power before he showed how evil he was. Same with ZeroB. Give him time, he’s working on it.
Michael Savage Discusses Obama’s Appointment of Van Jones
Here’s Reagan debating the cipher….
http://thelondonfog.blogspot.com/2009/02/reagan-obama-debate.html
And, who knows. Maybe his murderous buddies will get their just deserts yet…
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/justice-for-victims-of-the-weather-underground/
O’B is the fascist you don’t want us to know he is, or will be if he gets the chance. He’s destroying America as we speak.
Cheney: Obama is Making Americans Less Safe
Also, billions to bail out Dubai, nearly a billion to rebuild the terror infrastructure of Gaza, millions for abortions in foreign countries, . . . . waste waste waste waste waste! And all at a time when America is hurting, because of Democrap policies which he supports, and even participated in.
Yep, he’s your guy all right, he hasn’t got a clue either. Or, he’s doing it deliberately to make a hostile takeover easier to accomplish when he declares martial law. Chaos is the tool of tirants, and chaos is what he advised his cousin Odingbat to use. He did, and thousands were murdered, but Odingo got the power sharing that he wanted, at the expence of Kenyan democracy.
Corsi Has Proof that Obama Raised Almost $1 Million for Kenyan Thug Odinga
(read the article, too)
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78132
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/kenyas_killing_fields/
The point is that if he’s not above using violence for political gain in Kenya, he will certainly be willing to use it here, when the time is right.
Liberal fascism? Shocked I am………..not. They are THE MOST intolerant people.
Do you really think it’s just a coincidence that they admire tyrants and mass
murderers who murdered/tortured/jailed their political opponents?
THIS JUST IN
ZeroB isn’t Nixon, he’s Carter.
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2008/04/carter-wanted-to-meet-islamic-jihad-too.html
Oh, and don’t forget, “America is the evil one” ….yeah, right!
@Mike’s America
Well tangents are pretty common on such forums…and no doubt you done a fair few in the past. Can’t such right-wing journalists walk into a rightwing newspaper office? There’s always papers owned by Rupert Murdoch. Or better still, as I say, those Republicans with enough money (and I’m sure there are a fair few) – start up more rightwing newspapers and media outlets (TV, radio, internet, whatever). However can a newspaper properietor decide whether to hire a journalist on their views? Surely you wouldn’t the big bad government to put in/or enforce laws to prevent this?
@yonason
I’m not saying you can’t criticise the left at all. I’m just saying it a biring tiring hearing all the boo hoo about alledge socialist domination of the media. I’m just wondering – if the majority of journalists are such lefties and if that is so – why is that? There’s nothing wrong with blogs – I wasn’t criticising blogs. And I’m not saying you as an individual or any individuals on here should be journalists or moguls – ‘cos you need talent and money. I’m just saying with approx 50% of the voting US being Republican in a democratic free country – then there should be enough talent and money to meet such a demand. If the lefties have taken over the MSM – then it’s because you let ’em.
lol – as for Tokyo Rose – you got it all wrong again. I’m not saying quit, or you shouldn’t be blogging – I am saying the Right as a whole should stop wasting time moaning about left-wing bias (as if there wasn’t right-wing alternatives) and fight it by creating their own right wing media to the same scale.
Maybe there isn’t such a big bias as you guys claim and what bias there is maybe, and this is just a theory, conservatives are more interested in making money than reporting stories. So although you could make big bucks at the top of the media – you will still probably on average earn more money in the city than at newspapers etc. Maybe those attracted to English and arts are more likely to err on the left? Are there any disciplines in life which are overly dominated by right-wingers to a negative result?
Anyway – where are these schools which are flunking conservative journalist and I reckon you must be pretty lame-brained to go to a journalist school and become brainwashed into changing your political opinions by 180 degrees.
@GaffaUK: Glad to hear you oppose the Fairness Doctrine which would only affect conservative media.
Can you imagine how conservatives would dominate elected offices if there really was a fair and balanced news media across the board?
Now, back to the new fascists…. Obama supporters.
@GaffaUK:
Here is the school of the hero of the Left
http://cronkite.asu.edu/
and here’s the scumbag Leftist himself in his own words
http://www.usasurvival.org/ck07.20.07.shtml
…with Hillarity’s full approval (AS I POSTED ABOVE)
“where are these schools which are flunking conservative journalist and I reckon you must be pretty lame-brained to go to a journalist school and become brainwashed into changing your political opinions by 180 degrees.”
And why do you always twist things out of recognition the way Leftists always do?
I was talking about naive young people who don’t know any better having their brains washed. And any conservative leaning kid who goes into the field would rapidly be flunked out or would drop out. What’s so hard to understand about that? Are you that unaware of how biased teachers control who graduates or not?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/04/teachers-flunk-pulitzer-winner-out-of-school-for-criticizing-their-union/
If you are that ignorant of what goes on, how is it that you think you have a license to mock people who are more knowledgable than you?
Are you sure you aren’t a Leftist? You have all the symptoms.
Good gawd, man… you set questionable standards for acceptable crime.
The DNC Senatorial Campaign Committee lifted Michael Steele’s social security number and used it to obtain his credit report for political purposes when he was MD’s Lt. Gov a few years back. Chuckie Schumer was the chair of that committee.
But of course, the “buck” didn’t stop with “Chuck”. (Probably because his name wasn’t George W. Bush….) A young woman took the fall for him, and negotiated some community service in exchange for getting the charges dropped. hummmm… wonder who helped out with that? I daresay identity theft is taken more seriously for the rest of us.
And all that was just for a Senate campaign…. imagine when the stakes are much larger.
But I guess this is all okay with you since they didn’t leak his SSN to the media, eh? You’re an embarrassment.
And Rush’s medical details were already leaked to the media… first by his housekeeper to the Enquirer. Then when he admitted having a drug addiction in Oct 2003, the DA decided to seize his medical records (and release some details of them to the prosecutors) in the following months. The search warrant, available to the public, contained some medical details that should be private. Where were you?
You’re a little behind the times. The top talk radio hosts are three conservatives. The cable news broadcast with the largest viewing audiences is that “right wing” station, Fox News.
I’d say the free market has spoken, and the demand is being filled. But there are more numbers of the left slanted media. Conservative and centrist views don’t have as *many* forums. Why do you think they are trying to get the fairness doctrine reinstated in three to four steps of stealth legislation? To get rid of the powerful few.
Learn from history Dave. The erosion or suspension of the people’s rights has always eventually lead to despotic totalitarianism, and even those who supported the change in the government will find they are not safe or immune to it’s abuses.
Those who wrote our Constitution understood this. Which is why they insisted on a Bill of Rights to protect ALL of those Rights. Far to many in Washington have ignored their oath of office (to protect and uphold the Constitution,) and conspired to water down our rights for their own political agendas.
Yonason,
I’m not always as clear as I’d like to be. Concerning:
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@ruaqtpi2:
Ho, Hum.
The mistakes Nixon made were due to paranoia, not a desire to pilfer America. Watergate was his unwise response to the Leftists who were undermining America. It was wrong, and it was a mistake, but he thought he was doing it for the good of the Republic. Obama has no redeeming qualities, as far as eye can see.
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I agree with you. Nixon was right to be paranoid, but that doesn’t completely excuse him from his actions. In my opinion, he was no different than many politicians before or after him; he just happened to get caught. Having his secretary erase 18 minutes of tape recordings was just as damning as the rest of the charges against him, so there’s no need to treat him as being above the fray. I liked “Tricky Dick”, certainly much more than some of his detractors, but the fact remains that he engaged in criminal activity and also conspired to cover up that activity and his involvement. He was no saint, but by the same token no more of a sinner than many of his peers.
I think it’s an exaggeration to state that Obama has absolutely no redeeming qualities; he did have enough of a sense of expediency to get Jeremiah White out of the pisture as soon as possible. I would, however, agree that Obama is sorely lacking in the qualities that would make a person a good president.
@ruaqtpi2:
“…that doesn’t completely excuse him from his actions.”
…which is why I said, “It was wrong.”, with the caveat that at least he THOUGHT he was doing it for the good of the country. And G-d forbid I ever suspect Obama of harboring such a “thought.”
…[Obama] did have enough of a sense of expediency to get Jeremiah White out of the pisture as soon as possible”
That was POLITICAL expediency in order to get elected. It was not for the good of the country, but for his own personal gain. It is the equivalent of Nixon erasing the tapes. It was insincere @$$-covering. You have to do a lot better than that to show MEANINGFUL accomplishment, which is what I meant by “redeeming qualities.”
For example, Nixon was light years ahead of Obama on civil rights.
http://hnn.us/articles/5331.html
O’Bunko, on the other hand, doesn’t care squat about Blacks anywhere, let alone Americans. Just go and look at the mess he made of his district in Chicago to see how much he “cares.”
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/07/let-me-put-it-in-pictures-for-our.html
And now he’s doing that to America, as many of us suspected he would.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/03/mission-accomplished-obama.html
Nixon would never in his wildest dreams think of doing that, and if he did it accidentally, he would actually have regretted it. Not Obama. Sociopaths have no conscience.
No, Obama is no Nixon. He’s Carter on steroids.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/carter2.gif
Obama isn’t fit to polish Nixon’s shoes (neither is Carter, btw, so don’t go calling me a racist).
I hope that clears up what I was trying to express?
@MataHarley:
Thanks, Mata, that’s what I had in mind when I answered that complaint of his, but your elaboration is clearer and more comprehensive.
@ditto:
“…even those who supported the change in the government will find they are not safe or immune to it’s abuses.”
The useful idiots never are. In fact, they are often the first to go, as they know too much, and could spill the beans if they decide they like someone else. In order to make a new past, first you erase the old. And the quickest way to do that is eliminate those who know what the real past was.
@ruaqtpi2:
P.S. – I wasn’t chastizing, just clarifying a bit. You do make some good points.
@Mike
If a Fairness Doctrine did apply to all media I’m not sure how that then only affects Conservatives. Besides I am against a Fairness Doctrine. Because if you believe in free speech then anyone should be able to present their view as long as it is lawful (e.g. doesn’t break laws on slander etc). Ideally programs which do allow the people who they are criticising to come on are better in my opinion. To only preach to the converted is pretty boring.
@yonason
Your examples of where journalist schools refuse students because of their conservative views is fundamentally flawed. So Crondike has a school. And because he is left you made the classic assumption that therefore he imposes that on others. And a journalist who is refuses to speak at a high school becuase he criticised a teacher union isn’t the same either obviously. As for leftist – well I in the past I have voted for John Major, Paddy Ashdown (twice) and Charles Kennedy in the UK. That is once for Conservative and three times for Liberals but never for Labour – i.e. Kinnock & Blair (who are/were socialists). I consider myself an economic liberal – slightly to the right of centre. I believe in restricting welfare and I’m against big government. However no doubt – as I’m not a conservative therefore in your eyes no doubt I’m a big commie;)
@MataHarley
Good – so if the Right is filling the void then when can the boring lefty MSM carping stop? I’m pretty sure the left also complains about the right-wing dominated media. Basically it seem both sides want the media to only spout their views.
@GaffaUK: Either you are playing naive or you actually are.
If you think that the Fairness Doctrine would be applied to both media from the right and the left you have been out in the hot Aussie sun too long.
@Mike
Depends who’s in power doesn’t it Mike? Or are you too naive to deny that?
Besides we agree – we are both against it.
I’m not sure it will ever stop, Gaffa. Bad reporting remains bad journalism and reporting… despite the perceived slant.
But you miss the point of the unbalanced coverage… which you call “carping”. The largest listenership belongs to FOX and conservative radio talk shows. But they are the “minority” media. Meaning you have FOX against ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR etal. The conservative “voice”… if you can call Fox that, as it has mixed shows… from conservative to centrist, and a few liberals too, like Greta…. is most certainly in the minority. And the US voter only listens to those that scream the loudest. Meaning, of course, the majority of voices.
Despite all that, I am not for a “fairness” doctrine. But it is interesting that the progressive liberals want to use it to shut down the powerful few, and the conservatives… very much against it… *should* be the beneficiaries.
@GaffaUK:
“you made the classic assumption that therefore he imposes that on others”
The son of a @#%#@$ lied to America for years pretending he was an impartial observer, while he was a closet Commie the whole time. If you watch the film, you see he proudly admits it. Hillary praises him for it. These are not people who are going to be tolerant of views other than their own. There are plenty of stories about students who can’t deviate from the professor’s Left wing slant, or they flunk. It’s well known. Just because you don’t like the one illustration I posted doesn’t mean it’s not true. Get off your lazy butt and do some actual work digging this stuff out, instead of making things up based on Leftist dissinformation.
Leftists ARE fascists – It isn’t an assumption, it’s a fact.
http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/999
and they are intollerant thugs
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13067.html
I repeat, Leftists are fascists
http://ray-dox.blogspot.com/2006/06/this-is-expanded-version-of-article.html
And, sadly, It has roots in America
http://ray-dox.blogspot.com/2006/05/american-roots-of-fascism-american.html
They have common cause with our worst enemies, and always have
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=2AE93E2C-3C0A-41A3-B9EB-4920EF8465C5
@yonason
Er…what I have I made up exactly?
@GaffaUK:
1st — an appology, sort of… the “lazy butt” thing was a bit much. Just because you’re so wrong so often doesn’t mean your lazy. You may be, but I don’t yet have enough information to make that determination with certainty. So, until I know for sure, I withdraw that assertion.
2nd — You’re making up that Leftists aren’t, in general, dishonest hacks with a political agenda to push rather than pursuit of learning, as described here…
http://www.nationalreview.com/interrogatory/qa200603130909.asp
So, really, you aren’t aware of any problem? Like Barney Frank, and cohorts, who saw no problem with Franny & Freddie, you think everything is just fine in academic institutions in the West?
“I consider myself an economic liberal – slightly to the right of centre. I believe in restricting welfare and I’m against big government. However no doubt – as I’m not a conservative therefore in your eyes no doubt I’m a big commie;)” — GaffaUK
No, in fact from what I read of their bios, some of the Crew of Flopping Aces describe themselves as such, so you are in some good company there. In fact, from your description of your voting behavior, you’re a lot more “Conservative” than some of your writing reflects. I have the same problem in reverse. I’m a lot less radical in my behavior than I show in my writing. Frequently I’ve had online spats with friends, but when we talked face to face we were able to resolve our imagined differences in very short order. But developing a style of writing that prevents such misunderstanding isn’t easy for me, though it is on my “to do” list. And, believe it or not, I have made a bit of progress, though I have a long way to go, …as do many others, I’m sure.
@GaffaUK:
BTW…
…that’s a perfect example of making something up. Most on the Right would be perfectly happy if the media went back to reporting facts instead of rendering opinions and complicated nuanced word portraits of their own fantasies.
I remember listening to the BBC back in the early 1970’s when, in a few minutes I had a good mental image of what was going on in the world, just from a few facts, none of which were interpreted, which allowed me to actually think for myself about what they might mean.
Now they have to give reasons for everything, which most people accept as true without question. And even if you doubt the interpretation, it’s still stuck in your brain, like it or not (which is why I don’t watch TV news anymore). And with all the time spent explaining the news, they have to limit what they tell, because they just can’t fit as many facts in, which means you get less news and more garbage.
In short. Just give me the facts, and spare me the fantasy. Then, I can choose which editorial comments are consistent with my interpretation of those facts.