Saddleback Presidential Candidates Forum, August 16, 2008:
WARREN: OK, we’ve got one last time — I’ve got a bunch more, but let me ask you one about evil. Does evil exist? And if it does, do we ignore it? Do we negotiate with it? Do we contain it? Do we defeat it?
OBAMA: Evil does exist. I mean, I think we see evil all the time. We see evil in Darfur. We see evil, sadly, on the streets of our cities. We see evil in parents who viciously abuse their children. I think it has to be confronted. It has to be confronted squarely, and one of the things that I strongly believe is that, now, we are not going to, as individuals, be able to erase evil from the world. That is God’s task, but we can be soldiers in that process, and we can confront it when we see it.
Now, the one thing that I think is very important is for to us have some humility in how we approach the issue of confronting evil, because a lot of evil’s been perpetrated based on the claim that we were trying to confront evil.
REV. RICK WARREN, SADDLEBACK CHURCH: In the name of good.
OBAMA: In the name of good, and I think, you know, one thing that’s very important is having some humility in recognizing that just because we think that our intentions are good, doesn’t always mean that we’re going to be doing good.
Senator Obama says he believes evil should be confronted; yet is reluctant to be confrontational about it, because one should exercise humility and not presuppose what should otherwise be “God’s work” in judging who is acting in the name of evil, and who is not.
The implication might read, that George Bush might think he is doing good…but is in fact carrying out evil acts. So we should be careful about exercising any judgment on what is good and what is evil. This of course leads one down the path to moral relativism and the inability to actually confront evil when it’s staring you in the face.
Perhaps this explains how Senator Obama can excuse (and even defend) his history of association and “palling around” with those who are evil, but think they are doing good: Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, Rashid Khalidi, Tony Rezko, William Ayers…..
And how is it that he seems to have so many anti-American dictators, communists,marxists, terrorists, cheerleading for him? Louis Farrakhan, Fidel Castro, Hamas, Hugo Chavez, Muammar Gaddafi, Kim Jong-Il, Matt Damon…
Seriously, how are so many unsavory characters, like flies, attracted to this presidential candidate?
While off to work, I listened to Michael Gallagher on the radio make mention of a Chicago Tribune article. Toward the bottom, it reads:
Ayers’ office door is decorated with pictures of Mumia Abu-Jamal, Che Guevara and Malcolm X. It is also home to pictures of children, bills of rights for students and parents, and a rainbow-hued greeting card advising “How to Be Really Alive.” A place of prominence is give to a New Yorker cartoon of a man interviewing for a job. The interviewer says, “I’m trying to find a way to balance your strengths against your felonies.”
Mumia Abu-Jamal is an unrepentent cop-killer, celebrated by leftists and Hollywood elite. What does this alone say about Bill Ayers? He’s described as “a nice guy”. When he talks, he sounds like he believes what he has done in the past, is good; is noble. A freedom fighter, not a terrorist. Al Qaeda believes they are doing what is right, just, and good.
Evil is evil. Period. There’s no need for hand-wringing. Either not having the ability to recognize evil or not having the courage to answer something other than “present”, and condemn it when it confronts him- makes Senator Obama unfit to command and unreliable to defend this great nation of ours.
A former fetus, the “wordsmith from nantucket” was born in Phoenix, Arizona in 1968. Adopted at birth, wordsmith grew up a military brat. He achieved his B.A. in English from the University of California, Los Angeles (graduating in the top 97% of his class), where he also competed rings for the UCLA mens gymnastics team. The events of 9/11 woke him from his political slumber and malaise. Currently a personal trainer and gymnastics coach.
The wordsmith has never been to Nantucket.
In addition to Obama’s lack of judgment and his poor choice of friends, allies, and associates, simply review Obama’s positions on abortion and you will see heartless, empty darkness where his soul should be.
Any person who favors partial birth abortion or who would support legislation that would allow newborn babies to die on a cold stainless steel table or dirty linen closet is, himself evil.
Senator Obama is incapable of confronting evil.
The Bible tells us that Satan will not confront himself because to do so would be self defeating.
I wonder if Obama has ever been to Ayers office? Surely when spending years writing grants together, he must have been at least once. The idea that he bombed buildings when Obama was 8, kinda flies out the window, in the “I didn’t really know what he was about” category.
Michelle Obama told API that 80% of Obama relatives are Muslim, therefore it would be difficult for Obama to condemn the faith (I wonder if she means the radicals as well). Could he feel the same way about military confrontation? The idea of “evil” must be a little tricky for him, no wonder the head choppers support him!
WORDSMITH….can you post this picture big or send it to someone to make a add for McCain.
“Obama hardly knew this guy” really?
I wonder if he can see the irony in his comment that “a lot of evil’s been perpetrated based on the claim that we were trying to confront evil” in light of his and ACORN’s roles in voter fraud and the sub-prime mortgage crises. Makes me go ‘hmmmm’.
Evil cannot just be “confronted.” It must be faced and fought.
This reminds me of a person who will try to get out of jury duty because ‘only G-d can judge.’ Despite being the most negatively judgemental person I currently know.
The state of our civil society is simply shocking.
I was wondering why Obama wanted to pull us out of Iraq immediately, but he keeps on bringing up Darfur. I found the answer at Wikipedia:
1) Because the UN Secretary General wants something done – Translation, we would be back to the Clinton days where Commander in Chief powers were virtually handed our military over to the UN to be the World’s Police Force. Under Clinton our military was tasked heavily going from one UN action to another.
2) Gore’s Global Warming (Oh sorry we’re calling it “Climate Change” now) pseudo-science. So I imagine after we clean up the ethnic cleansing, our Army Corps Of Engineers will be put to work doing reconstruction by watering the desert.
Yet Obama wants to cut the military budget by hundreds of billions. Under Clinton the military budget was cut by 35%. Obamas already stated he would support no new technology or weapons systems. The natural question is; “Why would he want to keep our military forces perpetually engaged in every UN action that arises?” Here is the answer:
In an Obama administration, they would have to keep our military busy. In fact, too busy to be able to respond to domestic issues of national security and disaster relief. That way he can send in his SS troops (oops there I go again, sorry, his “civilian national security forces”) to save the day. But that’s only the tip of the iceberg. Waco was a dry run to examine the feasibility of taking out Christian religious organizations and communities. As were the Clinton actions against home-grown militias. They spin and create stories to the media, that these are outlaw cult organizations engaged in illegal and immoral activities just before going in and rounding them up for the internment camps or by taking them out via accidents such as; the fires that destroyed the Waco “compound”:
There was also a darker reason behind hate crime legislation. How many of you have noticed hate crime is rarely if ever applied by the courts when the victims are whites or Christians and the perpitrators are anti-white or anti-Christian?
Why would such things happen in an Obama America? I highly recommend you all rent or buy and watch the “Left Behind” movie series before they are gathered up and burned as “hater propaganda”.
Yes, Obama will confront evil, and in his eyes, the evil is us; the sensible, the moral, and the patriots.
So, kathie, are you saying Christians should defend the radicals in their organization? The KKK–who claim to be a Christian group? Don’t be ridiculous!
@karen: Don’t pay any attention, she believes that the entire Muslim faith should be condemned. Perfect example of an extremist (or radical). I guess its okay to be an extremist if you are Christian. Total ignorance.