Bombshell New Legal Memo Giving Trump Supporters Hope on Christmas Eve

Loading


 
By William J. Olson and Patrick M. McSweeney

In refusing to hear Texas v. Pennsylvania, the U.S. Supreme Court abdicated its constitutional duty to resolve a real and substantial controversy among states that was properly brought as an original action in that Court. As a result, the Court has come under intense criticism for having evaded the most important inter-state constitutional case brought to it in many decades, if not ever.

However, even in its Order dismissing the case, the Supreme Court identified how another challenge could be brought successfully — by a different plaintiff. This paper explains that legal strategy. But first we focus on the errors made by the Supreme Court — in the hopes that they will not be made again.



Texas v. Pennsylvania

The Supreme Court declined to hear the challenge brought by the State of Texas against four states which had refused to abide by Article II, § 1, cl. 2 — the Presidential Electors Clause, which establishes the conditions and requirements governing the election of the President of the United States. In adopting that provision, the Framers vested in each State legislature the exclusive authority to determine the manner of appointing Presidential electors. The Framers’ plan was shown to be exceedingly wise, because we have now learned that allowing other state and private actors to write the election rules led to massive election fraud in the four defendant states. Individuals can be bought, paid for and corrupted so much easier than state legislatures.

In refusing to hear the case, the sole reason given was that Texas lacked “standing.” In doing so, all nine justices committed a wrong against: (i) Texas and the 17 states that supported its suit; (ii) the United States; (iii) the President; and (iv) the People.

The Court’s Many Wrongs in Texas v. Pennsylvania.

As Alexander Hamilton explained in Federalist No. 78, courts have “neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment.” As such, in deciding cases courts have a duty to explain their decisions so the rest of us may know if they constitute arbitrary exercises of political power, or reasoned decisions of judicial power which the People can trust. In Texas v. Pennsylvania, all that the justices felt obligated to do was to state its — “lack of standing” — supported by a one sentence justification: “Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its election.” Resolving a case of this magnitude with one conclusory sentence is completely unacceptable.

The Supreme Court docket consists primarily of only those cases the High Court chooses to hear. However, just like when it agrees to decide a case, and in disputes where the original jurisdiction of the Court is invoked, it has a duty to decide cases properly brought to them. Two centuries ago, Chief Justice John Marshall construed the obligation of contracts clause in a decision where he wrote: “however irksome the task may be, this is a duty from which we dare not shrink.” Trustees of Dartmouth College v. Woodward, 17 U.S. 518 (1819). Courts have a duty to resolve important cases even if they would prefer to avoid them. In Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803), Marshall described “the duty of the Judicial Department to say what the law is” because “every right, when withheld, must have a remedy, and every injury its proper redress.” Abdication in a case of this sort is not a judicial option.

The Supreme Court’s reliance on standing as its excuse has had one positive result — provoking many to study the origins of that doctrine who may be surprised to learn that the word “standing” nowhere appears in the Constitution. There is compelling evidence to demonstrate it was birthed by big-government Justices during the FDR Administration to shield New Deal legislation, and to insulate the Administrative State from challenges by the People. Those who favored the Texas decision argue that standing is a conservative doctrine as it limits the power of the courts — but the true constitutionalist uses only tests grounded in its text. The true threshold constitutional test is whether a genuine and serious “controversy” exists between the States that could be resolved by a court.

The only reason given by the Supreme Court was: “Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its election.” In truth, Texas did make such a showing. When Pennsylvania violated the exclusive authority bestowed on state legislators in the Constitution’s Electors Clause, it opened the door to corruption and foreign intrigue to corrupt the electoral votes of Pennsylvania, and as Alexander Hamilton explained in Federalist 68, that is exactly why the Framers created the Electoral College. During the 2020 election cycle, changes to the election process in Pennsylvania were made by judges, state office holders and election officials which would never have been made by its state legislature.

If the process by which Presidential Electors are chosen is corrupted in a few key states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin by rigging the system in favor of one candidate, it becomes wholly irrelevant who the People of Texas support. That political reality presents a real “judicially cognizable interest” no matter what the Supreme Court decided. What happens in Pennsylvania does not stay in Pennsylvania, as electors from all States acting together select the President of the United States.

In the Federalist Papers, both James Madison and Alexander Hamilton recognized the need to combat “the spirit of faction” and the tendency of each State to yield to its immediate interest at the expense of national unity. They reasoned that the Constitution provided a solution to this centrifugal pressure while reserving a measure of sovereignty to each State. When differences arise between States that threaten to lead to disunion, the Republic can be held together, as Hamilton observed, either “by the agency of the Courts or by military force.” A constitutional remedy to enable the States to resolve their differences peacefully is the provision that permits any State to invoke the original jurisdiction of the Supreme Court to address and settle their differences.

In the vernacular, the Supreme Court blew it, threatening the bonds that hold the union together.

Round Two:  The United States Must Enter the Fray

Fortunately, that might have been only the first round in the fight to preserve the nation. A strategy exists to re-submit the Texas challenge under the Electors Clause to the Supreme Court in a way that even that Court could not dare refuse to consider. Just because Texas did not persuade the Justices that what happens in Pennsylvania hurts Texas does not mean that the United States of America could not persuade the justices that when Pennsylvania violates the U.S. Constitution, it harms the nation. Article III, § 2, cl. 2 confers original jurisdiction on the Supreme Court in any case suit brought by the United States against a state. Thus, the United States can and should file suit against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin. Like the Texas suit, that new suit would seek an order invalidating the appointment of the electors appointed by those four defendant States that refused to abide by the terms of the Presidential Electors Clause. That would leave it to the state legislatures in those four states to “appoint” electors — which is what the Constitution requires.

When those four States violated the Constitution by allowing electors who had not been appointed in the manner prescribed by the state legislature, the United States suffered an injury. Indeed, there could hardly have been a more significant injury to the nation than that which corrupted its Presidential election.

The United States has a vital interest and a responsibility to preserve the constitutional framework of the Republic, which was formed by a voluntary compact among the States. As with any contractual relationship of participants in an ongoing enterprise, no party is entitled to ignore or alter the essential terms of the contract by its unilateral action.

Read more

0 0 votes
Article Rating
Subscribe
Notify of
36 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments

The funny thing is no one is arguing that those States DIDN’T break their own Constitutions or the Constitution of the United States.

Because they did.

The majority of sane Americans know this isn’t about Donald Trump or Joe Biden. It’s about rule of law and our republic.

This is just like the past four years, how the Democrats are allowed to break or bypass laws at will, and Republicans are held to more than the law or are maligned illegally.

This is all a Democratic coup, pure and simple

They are suppost to hold hearings they can not allow for Politics to get in the way

It was ridiculous to argue that what one state does in a national election selecting the President of ALL the states cannot harm other states. One state can sue another if their industry creates air pollution that covers the other state, why would it be unreasonable to argue that a state violating their own election laws to fraudulently award electoral votes to a candidate that another state wisely voted against because that candidate would be harmful to that state?

Yeah, nobody wants to go there; I get it. But, unfortunately, this is where Democrat desperation has taken us.

@Nathan Blue:

While the basket of Trump gullibles have been a challenge to take seriously on any front, they’ve exceeded all expectations of their capabilities of jumping off the deep end.

The funny thing is no one is arguing that those States DIDN’T break their own Constitutions or the Constitution of the United States.

Because they did.

The claim of breach of the Constitution contradicts that of what most conservative lawmakers and Trump advocating judges have ruled. Your “because they did” defies the truth tables of logic as your illogical inputs fails to produce the logical output you desire. This is no more than an indoctrinated online blogger parroting what must be as true due only to what must be in his/her partisan world.

The majority of sane Americans know this isn’t about Donald Trump or Joe Biden. It’s about rule of law and our republic.

Not so from the very own statements from you and the ultra-rabid right. It’s proven bullshit as you yourself have admitted more than once of the perils of losing the greatness of Trump to the evils of Biden. This is where you’ve been indoctrinated to the point that you not believe what you see and hear from your own eyes and ears but you cannot agree with what comes out of your own mouth from one day to the next.

This is just like the past four years, how the Democrats are allowed to break or bypass laws at will, and Republicans are held to more than the law or are maligned illegally.

The level of reality denial while fabricating your own narrative is rather astounding, even from you. While giving zero examples of what the hell you’re talking about, you ignore the page after page of corruption, scandals, tens of thousands of documented lies, and lawbreakings that I’ve repeatedly listed in which you’ve stuck your head in the sand to, actually validating the reality that there are no atrocities of the Trump admin that you wouldn’t defend while blaming Democrats.

This is all a Democratic coup, pure and simple

Another complete reversal of reality.

Trump had an uphill reelection battle all along with a forecasted loss. With this in mind, he’s been cultivating his basket of guiltless for 4 years to abet him in his effort to steal a failed election, even admitting to picking friendly judges to help. This plan has been on public display his entire term.

So now we see plan B, Trump talk of using The Insurgent Act to allow him to call in the military, not for the intended purpose of an emergency domestic law enforcement but rather to declare martial law which would suspend the Constitution, implement and enforce curfews and keep citizens home bound while they seize voting machines with an oversight only available to Trump’s legal defense team.

That is the very definition of a coup. Yet as instructed, you blindly endorse another blatant assault on our Constitution and democracy while blaming it on Democrats.

Trump has led his cultists off the cliff of reality and you are now bellowing in his defense while descending into the abyss.

@Ronald J. Ward:

The claim of breach of the Constitution contradicts that of what most conservative lawmakers and Trump advocating judges have ruled.

Ok Hillbilly please list all of the cases actually heard, and how they ruled on the constitutional issue.
Dismissal of a case never allows an evidence hearing, so go for it use your googling machine and impress us all.
BTW Wisconsin Supreme court ruled the no ID votes were invalid.

@Ronald J. Ward:

This is no more than an indoctrinated online blogger parroting what must be as true due only to what must be in his/her partisan world.

This describes your trademark; citing a lie as something you have verified, then running away from demands to prove it.

The claim of breach of the Constitution contradicts that of what most conservative lawmakers and Trump advocating judges have ruled

Well… no. Because in Pennsylvania, it takes a full legislative vote AND notification by media to the public preceding a public vote before their Constitution can be altered, which was what was done with voting by mail. So this makes every one of those unrequested ballots and votes without excuse illegal and invalid. But, you know, that’s just laws and stuff… nothing any liberal crybaby that just wants THEIR way would be interested in.

Not so from the very own statements from you and the ultra-rabid right. It’s proven bullshit as you yourself have admitted more than once of the perils of losing the greatness of Trump to the evils of Biden.

How does that disprove the point? How does accurately pointing out the positive accomplishments of Trump compared to Biden’s racism, lies, failures and obvious compromise by the CCP prove we are not truly concerned with allowing Democrat fraud to, once and for all, destroy the sanctity of our elections and rule of law? Please clarify.

you ignore the page after page of corruption, scandals, tens of thousands of documented lies, and lawbreakings that I’ve repeatedly listed

Really, AJ? REALLY? Documentation YOU’VE listed? Aside from your lies, the one thing you are absolutely infamous for here is making an accusatory statement without any substantiation and then REFUSING to substantiate it when asked. You are the poster bitch for running from proving your points. Good Lord, is your mission to destroy your credibility and any possibility of restoring your credibility? Hell, you have even admitted you would vote for Hitler. What else needs to be said?

You can’t even answer the questions posed to you about the obvious evidence of blatant fraud. You simply pretend the question was never asked and carry on lying about Democrat fraud. But, don’t think you are unique; the same goes for every other fraud-loving liberal that is happy having a CCP-corrupted idiot as President.

@kitt:

Ok Hillbilly please list all of the cases actually heard, and how they ruled on the constitutional issue.
Dismissal of a case never allows an evidence hearing, so go for it use your googling machine and impress us all.

Your premise that it’s incumbent on me to educate you on how legal challenges advance through the courts is an obvious attempt from you to derail my argument that Trump has openly planned this reelection scam his entire term.

Perhaps my point would have served had I used the word “rejected” rather than “ruled” but the outcome remains the same, team Trump has never had a legitimate case.

Trump’s pardoning of murders and loyalists who lied for him demonstrates he has no concern for rules on any levels. His admission of stacking the courts to do his bidding demonstrates his lack of concern for rules. That he would use the Insurgent Act outside of its intended purpose to suspend the Constitution to change the election results again says the same.

This has nothing to do with going by the rules and/or accepting any result other than for Trump to steal the election. It’s been unfolding right before our eyes on live camera and in front of live audiences for 4 years. It doesn’t matter that he’d openly destroy our Constitution, democracy, and even human life, you will be there assisting him in those endeavors. The cultists and the FA basket has been doing it for 4 years and there’s no foreseeable reason to think the scales would suddenly fall from your eyes and you’d see.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Your premise that it’s incumbent on me to educate you on how legal challenges advance through the courts is an obvious attempt from you to derail my argument that Trump has openly planned this reelection scam his entire term.

No, the “premise” is either you back up your statements or, by default, admit they are lies. So far, you have allowed them all to be accepted as lies.

Trump pardoned no murderers. That was Obama, whose butt you continue to smooch upon. What courts has Trump “stacked”? “Stacked”? When did Trump say he was imposing the Insurgency Act? Anything else you’d like to make up? Truth seems to have no importance to you.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Your premise that it’s incumbent on me to educate you on how legal challenges advance through the courts is an obvious attempt from you to derail my argument that Trump has openly planned this reelection scam his entire term.

I simply want you to be able to back up your statement, you certainly cant even educate yourself.
You need to be on tracks to be derailed. You pose this as an argument thats a perfect description of your posts you cannot try to engage in a debate totally without facts.
We see how stacked the courts are dont we Hillbilly?

Suspend the Constitution

Oh do debate us on how trying to bring them to enforce their own election laws is doing that.

Suspend the Constitution

It that a phrase you heard on your booby tube Banjo Boy?

@kitt:

I simply want you to be able to back up your statement, you certainly cant even educate yourself.

It takes no education nor even intelligence to repeat baseless lies hear on liberal propaganda sites. As we have seen shown to us, ANY idiot can do that. Citing FACTS and backing them up is the trick, and AJ falls woefully short of that mark.

@Ronald J. Ward: Understand that every fraud election happened this way, with the loyalist Cult blinded, supporting the tyrants as they take over.

Useful idiots, like you.

$45 million to investigate a scandal literally paid for and manufactured by the losing candidate in 2016.

But then….

A complete whitewash of 1000’s of witnesses, hard evidence, video, and Constitutional Law in 2020.

Why the double standard? Because the failing Democrat Party can’t win on merit, performance, or voter turnout.

You can yip all you want, mutt, but it’s wrong to ignore this.

If Biden won legally, then that’s that. But he didn’t. Trump outperformed in every county in the nation, except the magical urban ones in swing states with magical votes that magically appeared after counting was over for the night.

Trump had an uphill reelection battle all along with a forecasted loss.

That was the media narrative, fed to morons like you who simply WANTED that to be real, but he data doesn’t back that up. You can’t argue on this one. It’s fact. Trump was slated to win and he did win.

If there was this amount of fraud favoring Trump, you’d being saying THE EXACT F*CKING THING ALL THE TRUMP VOTERS ARE SAYING.

You have no awareness, no insight, and no rationally ability to think.

Or you’re a paid troll sent to lie.

Biden’s links to China are real. What’s your media-provided answer for how they are not?

The election fraud was real. What’s your media-provided answer for how it’s not?

You accuse others of doing what you do, pure and simple.

Hope you’re ready for a fight, whelp. Biden needs you to help his coup.

Any real American claiming to defend the Constitution would never ignore all this data, and the 4 year attempt to remove a duly elected President. They wouldn’t ignore the decades-long slide of the Democrat Party into a one-party police state…unless they are part of it and want that.

You are a traitor and no American at all.

@Nathan Blue:

If there was this amount of fraud favoring Trump, you’d being saying THE EXACT F*CKING THING ALL THE TRUMP VOTERS ARE SAYING.

Did you miss it? They did the same thing in 2016 based on nothing but crap they made up. This continued until… well, NOW. They made no legal challenges based on solid evidence, as Trump’s team is doing; they screamed “TRAITOR!”, investigated and impeached all based on their furor over losing an election they simply didn’t cheat enough in.

The election fraud was real. What’s your media-provided answer for how it’s not?

What is their answer to running off observers and secretly counting Biden votes in the middle of the night in Atlanta? What’s their answer for Pennsylvania brazenly violating their own Constitution to allow massive, no excuse vote by mail? What’s their answer to the 68% error rate in Michigan? What’s their answer to Arizona refusing to allow examination of their voting machines? What’s their answer to THOUSANDS of dead and non-residents voting in Nevada? What is their answer to Wisconsin breaking Wisconsin law and mailing ballots out to EVERYONE without a request for a ballot? What is their answer?

“Nuh-uh. Did not.” THAT’S their answer. Their only answer.

@Nathan Blue:

That you actually believe the baseless claims you state and demonstrate abject denial of reality is phenomenal on several fronts. One might question if you’re outright lying. To be a bit generous, maybe you’ve allowed yourself to turn what you know is not true into something you want to be true. Perhaps you’re incapable of distinguishing the difference. Maybe you don’t care. Is it possible that a constant intake of QAnon and other propaganda outlets along with a refusal to consider credible sources plays a big role? Could it be you’ve wanted and welcomed this propaganda all along? Aside from the deep hatred you harbor of people who don’t march lockstep to your politics, maybe it’s a real fear of Democrats in power. Could it be that you just can’t accept the fall of a god who was building a wall to protect you from the takeover of the brown and yellow men who were out to steal your freedoms?

I’d wager a mixture of all of the above.

We’ve haggled back and forth for months of your insistence that Trump was going to win. My arguments included the overwhelming polls, the changing voting patterns and demographics including AZ and GA and yes, the very suburban voters you just now mention. Top Republicans turned away from Trump, top donors dropped him and there was huge surge small donations to Biden. Trump had ran low on campaign cash and had even pulled ads in GA and other swing states. Trump was in trouble.

You never offered a damn thing. Not once did you give a credible reason to justify your insistence other than Trump was so great and Biden was so bad. Not. One. Damn. Time.

Get it? This is indoctrination at it’s best and the Trump propaganda machine is playing your emotions like a fiddle, while raking in tons of cash.

They didn’t slip something in your drink overnight. You’ve been helping them concoct this potion for some time. Take for example your claim of a “4 year attempt to remove a duly elected President”, a blatant refusal of denial of Trump bribery charges or even obstruction. He committed 2 crimes yet you defend him and blame Democrats, ignoring Trump’s admissions as well as the kangaroo court. You deny every aspect of the Meuller report including multiple convictions and Presidential immunity and blame Democrats. You defended his handling of Iran and enabling ISIS, his assault on peaceful protestors for a photo op, his admission of slowing testing for political gain and even that if COVID hit hard in Democratic areas it would be good politics for him, his mishandling of $1.5 trillion of the CARES act money. I’ve listed pages of misdeeds which you’ve ignored. Even today, people will endure more suffering because Trump’s refusing to sign needed legislation for no more than his own political shitshow.

Are we still rounding the goddamn curve?

The above isn’t meant to argue the election results but rather as examples of why you are incapable of choosing facts over fiction. You refuse to accept reality when it reflects poorly on the man you rally behind and it doesn’t matter how blaring that reality is. The accusations you list of voter fraud are as baseless as your needed belief that Biden sexually assaults puppy dogs or that Mexico is paying for a wall. They are hyped glitter that the basket of gullibles so desperately need to cling to. It doesn’t matter that they’re being rejected by top Trump officials or Trump friendly judges. It’s like the need for the basket to close their eyes to the BLS numbers and pretend Trump saved the country from Obama’s economic ruins and built the greatest economy in history.

You could not accept the realty that Trump faced a tough election and considering your history, your denial now is expected. Hell, I even predicted this of you months ago.

I get the rubber/glue game you like to play and my disdain of Trump and being elated of his loss is no secret so I expect the kool-aid accusations of me. But dude, the overwhelming facts and realities of your serial lying egomaniac have been exposed so many times on every level yet you deflect it-every damn time.

The economy is in serious trouble.
We are not rounding any goddamn curve.
Donald J. Trump lost the election and will be replaced on 1/21/21.

@Ronald J. Ward:

That you actually believe the baseless claims you state and demonstrate abject denial of reality is phenomenal on several fronts

You’ve believed and promoted some pretty baseless claims yourself. Russian collusion, racism, misogyny, emoluments, tax evasion, quid pro quo, impeachment. It appears that unless it IS baseless, you don’t want anything to do with it. But you are no different than the rest of the herd of lemmings you run with.

One might question if you’re outright lying. To be a bit generous, maybe you’ve allowed yourself to turn what you know is not true into something you want to be true.

Russian collusion. Racism. Quid pro quo.

Aside from the deep hatred you harbor of people who don’t march lockstep to your politics, maybe it’s a real fear of Democrats in power.

Now you’re just trying to be sarcastic… right? Tell me you’re being sarcastic and don’t actually believe this total reversal of reality.

My arguments included the overwhelming polls,

Same as 2016.

the changing voting patterns and demographics including AZ and GA

Yeah, the dead, illegal immigrant and non-resident demographic the Democrats ALWAYS do well with.

You deny every aspect of the Meuller report

Actually, we accepted it. It is liars like yourself that cannot accept that no crimes were found, no “collusion” was found, no obstruction was found and all that was CLEARLY expressed in the report and hearings.

The economy is in serious trouble.

So you admit Biden will be another (after Obama) economic disaster. Got it.

We are not rounding any goddamn curve.

We have already. Trump’s historic vaccine success (like his other massive successes) was the key. Bloating COVID statistics doesn’t change that.

Have you cast your JA! vote for Hitler yet?

@Ronald J. Ward:

Is it possible that a constant intake of QAnon and other propaganda outlets along with a refusal to consider credible sources

So you dislike QAnon you dont like the anti pedo movement, well that figures. Other credible sources of what? Russian collusion? Covid 19 treatments, Hunters laptop, embedded Chinese spys democrats cheat on their wives with, or are drivers for senators and mostly peaceful protests? You only are informed of those things China allows you to know.
The tabulators were connected to the internet, the Dominion website scrubbed of the solar winds connections, found to be 68% inaccurate. Dominion threatening witnesses, Thug AG s threatening attorneys that would expose election irregularities.
The easiest way to clear up all of this would be to have true audits and forensic exams of these machines, recounting where true oversight is not existent just isn’t good enough to prove Biden won.
Remove the irregular votes.

@kitt:

You only are informed of those things China allows you to know.

People like AJ and Greg are only informed of the things THEY want to know. Lacking the courage to face the truth, they hide from it and prefer lies.

Thug AG s threatening attorneys that would expose election irregularities.

See, in liberal-think, that’s how you promote confidence in the integrity of the election; you threaten and intimidate anyone that wants an investigation. You know… because there’s no “there there.”

@Ronald J. Ward:

Wow!!! Your last post is an exercise in hatred unlike most anything I have ever seen on these pages. That, and a total denial of historical truth.

Maybe you don’t care. Is it possible that a constant intake of QAnon and other propaganda outlets along with a refusal to consider credible sources plays a big role?

Since I am not familiar with QAnon (don’t even really know what it is) perhaps you would like to tell us all what sources you deem “credible”? You have been asked before what sources you rely on for your “information” but that was just one of the many questions you refused to answer.

Aside from the deep hatred you harbor of people who don’t march lockstep to your politics, maybe it’s a real fear of Democrats in power.

Or maybe it is the knowledge of how almost every Democrat has governed?

All the wars the U.S. has ever been involved in, save for one, what started by what Party? Yet, the Democrats has successfully labeled the GOP as the party of war. The 2008 economic collapse was caused by a law passed by a Democrat (the CRA) but ignored until another Democrat was elected to put it on steroids. That, and other historical economic events, can all be traced back to (yep) Democratic national leadership.

Could it be that you just can’t accept the fall of a god who was building a wall to protect you from the takeover of the brown and yellow men who were out to steal your freedoms?

Ah, yes, the ever reliable racial argument. Yet, not one word from you on how Democrats want to build security walls around foreign nations while demanding that we take in all comers and give them benefits designed for American citizens. Can you not accept that the United States takes in more immigrants each year than any other nation but the citizenry just asks that those immigrants do it legally?

The rest of your mantra is just the normal Ward/AJ blatherings designed to do nothing but express your total and absolute hatred for those who disagree with you.

You have nothing. You express nothing. No opinion on public policy, economics, love of a country that is a safe haven for those like you. You dislike America, and all it stands for and simply want a bumbling, demented man who has never achieved anything legislative in spite of being a swamp creature for almost 50 years because you think he will bring about the Socialist agenda you seem to want to see take effect.

I told you before; you don’t want to debate the issues or even discuss the failures of the Party you seem to be so enamored by. You fail to answer questions and then lie, claiming you already answered the questions you fail to answer. You blame Trump for a pandemic that you refuse to blame on China. A pandemic that was handled by Trump doing exactly what FDR did in 1942 after Pearl Harbor, creating a public/private partnership to defeat a stealth enemy that cannot be seen that was unleased on the world by China that has proven deadly like the Spanish Flu. Compare Trump’s response to the Chi-Com flu to Wilson’s response to the 1918 Spanish Flu.

You are a propagandist, Ward/AJ. But alas, not a very good one is you are backed up against the wall by history.

@retire05:

Since I am not familiar with QAnon (don’t even really know what it is) perhaps you would like to tell us all what sources you deem “credible”?

You’re not familiar with QAnon nor do you seem to bother educating yourself yet you try to engage in today’s political events. That’s indeed telling.

And while there’s a trends of the FA regulars to never admit where or how they acquire your news, you want me to tell you mine?

Why is the crowd here so afraid to say how they arrive at their political decisions?

When I see and hear Trump say on camera at a Klan rally that he ordered the slowing of COVID testing, there’s no reason for me to believe that CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, or whoever edited or doctored the video to mislead me. If I read in the NYT or WAPO of a speech or statement Trump made and then see the same from a news footage, it’s a pretty good indication it’s true.

Aside from the deep hatred you harbor of people who don’t march lockstep to your politics, maybe it’s a real fear of Democrats in power.
—RJW

Or maybe it is the knowledge of how almost every Democrat has governed?
—Retire05

Do you even realize what that response addresses? Do you? I asked Nathan if the hatred of Dems and the fear of them in power was a reason to abet Trump in overturning the election. You admitted that it’s because the way they govern.

So let’s drop this nonsense about some deep state propaganda to steal an election. You and Nathan know (and this isn’t the 1st time you’ve admitted to it) that it’s about the results of the election.

The Democrat Grinche’s tried to ruin Christmas for us all tried to confine us to home they failed

@Ronald J. Ward:

When I see and hear Trump say on camera at a Klan rally that he ordered the slowing of COVID testing,

Do you actually think ANYONE believes the shit you shovel? It’s like you you don’t even make an attempt at credibility. What a cowardly, phony-ass liar you are.

@Deplorable Me:

“Testing is a double-edged sword. “When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people, you’re going to find more cases, so I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.’”
—–Donald Trump, Tulsa OK 6/20/20

But for you to cherry pick 1 of Trump’s atrocities really isn’t the point. The point is you refuse to believe what you see with your own eyes and hear with your own ears if it doesn’t buttsniff your orange god.

@Curt:
I’ve referred to a Trump’s rally as a Klan Rally his entire term.

What took you so long?

@Curt: Ah yes the Tulsa Rally where trolls faked almost a million attendee requests, just like all the faked votes for Biden.
Must be Trumps fault you booted the Hillbilly.

@Ronald J. Ward: Look at the brave and courageous AJ, bringing his citation! And before the end of the year, too! I guess so we can’t say he went all year without answering a single question.

Of course, you answer is garbage and completely predictable. I KNEW this would be your “example” that is the only time Trump ever alluded to such a ridiculous idea. Of course, had you seen the actual remarks you would know that Trump was cracking a joke. Or, in your case, maybe even if you had. Of course, there was laughter and smirking after he said this and, of course, testing never slowed; in fact, we tested more than any other country and continued to do so.

One thing Trump hasn’t learned or perhaps accepted is that the left has no sense of humor unless they are using it as propaganda. He either never got used to the idea or didn’t care that everything he said was going to be manipulated by the left. Take his “fine folks” comment. The left has nothing to really complain about with Trump unless they lie about what he does.

So, there’s that. But, certainly you have ANOTHER example in mind, since you said he made the comment at a KKK rally. But your example was at a political rally. Care to either present your REAL example or admit you simply LIED about the KKK rally?

@Curt: Oh, please don’t block the idiot AJ. He may not be capable of presenting an honest comment or argument, but he serves a very useful purpose. He, like numerous other liberals, make comments that absolutely validate our arguments. If we ever had doubts about supporting Trump, along comes an AJ and shows us that, search as they may, they cannot find anything substantive to attack Trump on, so they have to lie and make it up. Like Mueller’s ill-fated (for those desperate Democrats putting so much hope into) “investigations” which tried and tried and tried but could not find ANYTHING Trump had done that could be considered a crime, their false accusations only serve to prove that Trump has done nothing wrong or against them, they simply hate all that is not liberal and socialist.

So, as obnoxious and totally lacking in credibility he is, PLEASE don’t block him out. He verifies our positions with his stupidity!

@Curt: It can set your teeth on edge when he accuses a trump rally of being a DNC fundraiser. I wouldnt miss him 1 tiny bit.

@Curt: Hope your bad day is over with and you’ve recovered from whatever it was. In 2020, a “bad day” could be something pretty awful.

@kitt: Indeed, but doesn’t reading what he presents make you think, “If that’s the best they have, we must be absolutely, 100% correct.”? I know I evaluate what I believe and support and seeing someone that has to MAKE UP reasons to hate Trump only confirms the fact that he has done a great job.

@Deplorable Me: Ward can never post anything remotely related to the thread, he cant play devils advocate. His you are all Trump asslickers is old real old, he is a scratched record, the kind I would love to see Curt frisbee into the FA trashbin.

Seems the rumor of the dominion machine chatting it up with a smart thermostat might have some teeth oh the internet of things. These thermostats are set remotely all Starbucks stores have them because the kids cant keep there piddies off the settings and turn AC units into iceballs on roofs across the nation. Yes you can while logged in program any of these devices remotely.

VIDEO: IT Expert Ramsland: Audit in Savannah, Georgia Shows Tabulation Machines Were Sending Results to China

@kitt:

Ward can never post anything remotely related to the thread, he cant play devils advocate. His you are all Trump asslickers is old real old, he is a scratched record, the kind I would love to see Curt frisbee into the FA trashbin.

All that is true, but when that is all he can come up with, doesn’t that confirm our position?

@Deplorable Me: He was nothing but a droning asshat. We need a better class of commie troll than he can possibly provide.
I certainly dont require any confirmation of my position from a victim of MFM mind control.
You simply like how easy it is to trounce him, and Greg on their low information postings.

@kitt: Of COURSE he is! And as long as that is what the left throws at us, be assured the support of our positions is the best and righteous thing to do. It’s easy to trounce anyone that uses nothing but false accusations and murdering context as their argument.

You aren’t going to get any better class of liberal than these; there ISN’T one. Their ideology is failed and they have nothing but lies to cling to. I mean, can you envision an INTELLEGENT person defending Biden?

@Deplorable Me:

You aren’t going to get any better class of liberal

As far as Ward is concerned I aint asking much.

@Deplorable Me:

Oh, please don’t block the idiot AJ.

But then, on the other hand, perhaps it is time for leftists to learn what the “cancel” culture is like. The only way to fight their Alinsky philosophy is to hand it back to them in spades.

@retire05: We do that on a daily basis, destroying their ideas with facts. The fact that they don’t have the courage to accept the failure of their ideology is irrelevant. We simply keep tearing down their lies.

That’s what sites like this is for.