Charlottesville: The “counter protesters” started the fight. The media is burying that fact to get Trump.

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First, a thought experiment. What if some anti-abortion activists “peacefully” got together and locked arms to prevent anyone from entering an abortion clinic?

Would it matter who was trying to enter?

Would it be racist?

Would it be the fault of the person trying to enter?

Keep it in mind. Donald Trump made several statements the other day that made the left wing media apoplectic. One of the most media-controverted statements was Trump doubling down on blaming both sides for the violence.

“I think there is blame on both sides,” Trump said during a contentious back-and-forth with reporters in the lobby of his Midtown Manhattan building.

And there absolutely is blame on both sides. This is from USA today, describing the experience of a white nationalist as he tried to enter Emancipation Park for the lawful assembly:

But as he entered the intersection just outside Emancipation Park, Heimbach and members of his Traditionalist Workers Party were met by counter protesters who had formed a blockade. A melee ensued, with people being flung to the ground in what was the first in a series of violent episodes that turned a graceful college town into a battleground. Later, when a car plowed into a crowd of people, at least killing one person and injuring 19 others, the casualties were all too real. (emphasis mine)

And then there is this from Slate:

It was basically impossible to miss the antifa for the group of us who were on the steps of Emancipation Park in an effort to block the Nazis and alt-righters from entering. Soon after we got to the steps and linked arms, a group of white supremacists—I’m guessing somewhere between 20-45 of them—came up with their shields and batons and bats and shoved through us. We tried not to break the line, but they got through some of us—it was terrifying, to say the least—shoving forcefully with their shields and knocking a few folks over.

The “counter protesters” were the antagonists in this clash. They attempted to block the lawful entry of the supremacists into the park. They disrupted the alt-right protest. As I suggested above, was an anti-abortion group to block women from entering an abortion clinic, there would be a rapid police response. In this case, because the group with the law on its side is so hated, none was coming.

Did they know what they were provoking? Yes. From the NY Times:

Did they expect violence?

Yes.

Were all of the counterprotesters nonviolent?

No.

No indeed. They were frequently violent:

“Since the weekend, witnesses have told us that in fact, both sides were antagonizing for a fight,” NBC’s Tom Costello says. Later, the report shows a clip of Trump’s Tuesday press conference in which he said, “What about the alt-left? What about the fact that they came charging…with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs?” Costello’s narration continues, “In fact, that’s true. Witnesses tell NBC News there were people on both sides who seemed ready for a fight and some counter-protesters were armed with clubs, some with pepper spray.”

The BBC published a similar look at the violence in Charlottesville and what Trump said about it. BBC reporter Joel Gunter, who was there Saturday, said, “The President said that the violence on Saturday was perpetrated by both sides.” After playing a clip of Trump’s press conference, Gunter continued, “Trump is right. There was violence on both sides. I saw counter-protesters throw bottles, rocks and paint and clash with the white supremacists. Both sides sprayed pepper spray.”

Both sides employed violence. Both sides.

Something else Trump said made them nuts:

You have some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me — I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

CBNC called it “jaw dropping.” Problem is, that was also true. Again, the NY Times:

”Good people can go to Charlottesville,” said Michelle Piercy, a night shift worker at a Wichita, Kan., retirement home, who drove all night with a conservative group that opposed the planned removal of a statue of the Confederate general Robert E. Lee.

After listening to Mr. Trump on Tuesday, she said it was as if he had channeled her and her friends — all gun-loving defenders of free speech, she said, who had no interest in standing with Nazis or white supremacists: ”It’s almost like he talked to one of our people.”

Conservatives like Ms. Piercy, who have grown only more emboldened after Charlottesville, believe that the political and media elite hold them and Mr. Trump to a harsh double standard that demands they answer for the sins of a radical, racist fringe. They largely accept Mr. Trump’s contention that these same forces are using Charlottesville as an excuse to undermine his presidency, and by extension, their vote.

Night shift worker at a retirement home. No interest in the Nazis or the white supremacists. Sounds like, to coin a phrase, fine people. Trump was right on both counts.

What is happening right now is abominable. The media has no interest in the truth and they are abusing their perches to shame anyone who dares scrutinize at the counter protesters and tar them as a Nazi sympathizer or a racist. It is the new McCarthy era.

Unite the Right, the white supremacists and the Neo-Nazis are wretched, loathsome evil people but they do have rights and they did have the right to enter the park.The media has portrayed the counter protesters as saints with impeccable behavior. It is a false narrative. It is a lie. The antifa gang unlawfully blocked the alt-right group from exercising their right to freedom of assembly. They were the provocateurs. If you don’t care about their rights, your rights are also in jeopardy. If you don’t care that the media is lying because it suits your narrative, you lack ethics. Right now, the media is no better than Unite the Right. They have become Pravda. The alt-right is awful, but that does not justify deceit and mandacity. Michelle Piercy is right. Trump is right but the media is derelict in avoiding the truth and is using Charlottesville as a means of undermining his Presidency.

The hatred of the alt-right and the hatred of Donald Trump is not a justification to trample the Constitution and lie to America. It makes us Russia. It’s like planting evidence to create guilt.

It’s un-American.

A candlelight vigil was held in Charlottesville last night for the victims of the violence. It was not publicized:

The vigil was not publicized in advance, but spread through a stealth campaign to thwart any hate groups that might seek to disrupt it.

But it was fine to disrupt someone else’s right to assembly- which led to the violence and the deaths. How’s that for irony?

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Lunacy, the Barcelona attack was a copy cat of the Charlotte nut yup they said it, not the Paris attack or the 2 London attacks or the Christmas attack in Germany, nope must be Trumps fault.
http://conservativenewsfeed.com/barcelona-attack-copycat-version-of-what-happened-in-charlottesville
Madison Wisconsin Mayor defaces a cemetery by removing confederate statues robbing the dead.
Wacked out libs after Jefferson and Washington, in Illinois and DC.
They are going too far blacks are demanding segregation on campuses, didnt their forefathers protest and die to end jim crow?
Sorry for the gender reference…NOT.
Must be the floride in the water
http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/09/06/does-fluoride-in-drinking-water-cause-brain-damage-neuroto

I noticed last night after the attack in Spain, MSNBC and especially CNN did some basic coverage of it and then when right back to Trump bashing. Which means to me they aren’t interested in covering news but playing to the desires of a particular audience. These are not news organizations.

ANTIFA is a violent organization. They should be identified as a terror group, as well as BLM.

The woman who destroyed the Durham NC statue is a member of the Worker’s World Party (WWP), a revolutionary Marxist-Leninist group . The WWP is a hard-line offshoot of the more moderate Socialist Workers Party. In addition to supporting a wide range of far-left causes, the group also defends the North Korean regime of dictator Kim Jong-un against alleged U.S. imperialism. A local interview with one member of the WWP said their goal was to resist and persist racism and Donald Trump. My ears perked up at that statement. I can not prove the Hillary link, however it seems to me this is a DNC/Media ploy to disrupt the Presidency as well as draw attention away from D W Schultz ‘s I.T. arrest, the Hillary emails , the request for the Tarmac meeting notes, and the crash of the Russia-Russia-Russia investigation.

no one caused the kid to ram his car into a crowd

Pres Trump was correct; there was wrong actions on both sides AND there were some good people on each side.

The Left took advantage of a leadership gap in the part of the Unite-The-Right side to implant a mole/leader in Jason Kessler.

Paid Dem/Liberals led both sides.
One was just “undercover.”
Today there is unity that those in the white supremicist wing of the right will never again allow themselves to have the wool pulled over their eyes by a volunteer who offers to lead them.

One of the things Jason Kessler demanded was the tying up of the American flags by “his” side. This turned their flags on poles into SPEARS. He was behind their carrying shields, too.
Almost all of his “followers” were what you’d call useful idiots.
They had come to protest the statue coming down.

But they were made ready for violence by their wolf-in-sheep’s clothing “leader.”

Yes, the police funneled them into a single-file line and Antifa.
But when the push came to the shove the UTR were as ready to fight back as Antifa.

The entire affair was astroturfed.
The leaders on all sides paid for by Soros & the Left.
The pols all on the Left.
The police under orders from the Left.

@Belle: I often wonder why those who do not like our Republic dont move to a country that better aligns with their ideology, destruction of public property isnt going to bring about the utopia they seek. I hope she enjoys what ever the justice system decides for her..

@bobloblaw: An Arrested Development fan…

No, no one “caused” him to drive into the crowd, but had the ANTIFA/BLM gang not incited the violence nor attacked the kid in the car, most likely the young lady would still be alive.

@kitt: Because where ever they are, the freedom and opportunity the capitalistic United States provides is a threat to the establishment of oppressive socialistic regimes. The greatness of the United States must be destroyed for socialism to flourish.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Let them go see and live the failure that is socialism or communism. I wish they would leave this evil behind never return.

@bobloblaw: no one caused the kid to ram his car into a crowd

That’s like saying a kidnapped girl wasn’t groomed into prostitution.
Or a depressed Muslim young man whose girlfriend has deserted him was not groomed into becoming a jihadi/suicide bomber.
perhaps you missed Project Veritas’ video of two major DNC dirty tricksters.
One was Dick Creamer who admitted placing moles into top positions of lax orgs on the Right.
The other was Scott Foval.
Remember what he said about the mentally ill?
He said he could get the mentally ill to do all sorts of s#!t.
The car’s driver was mentally ill.
He needed massive amounts of medication just to keep from seeing constant hallucinations.
Could he have been manipulated?
Sure, he could.
It also looked like people (antifa) were bashing his car as he went down the street.
People Scott Foval admitted he buses into events.

REPORT: White Supremacist Jason Kessler Dumped Girl of “Jewish Heritage” Because She Wasn’t Liberal Enough

@bobloblaw: Really?? Where you there?? Did you know what was being said and done to his car prior to the incident. Let’s let our laws apply as they will. It’s called justice!!