To be posted the evening of November 8 2016 after Trump Loses… (Guest Post)

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As an eyewitness to history, I can see how things are currently trending and how the current path should be clear to all.. but isn’t…But no matter, I will just leave this here for you to carefully consider since I see no point in waiting for the inevitable to play out.

Donald J. Trump conceded the race to Hillary Clinton tonight

With almost an air of relief Donald thanked his supporters and begrudgingly congratulated Ms Clinton on her win. But in a final twist of fate, the erstwhile target of his wrath and persecution turned the tables on him in her victory speech. Donald had threatened to prosecute Clinton, now it was Hillary making the threats.. and now she has the power of the Federal government to carry them out.

In recent weeks indications of the resulting landslide result was shaping up in the polls, so despite rumblings and rumors of lawsuits over tonight’s return, it became obvious that the victory was so slanted as to make these actions seem superfluous at best.

While Trump’s style of bluster won him many acolytes in the primaries, these same mannerisms only served to drive most people away in the general contest. His once successful tactics of lawsuit threats and shutting down opponents with shouts of Liar had the opposite effect outside his cloistered rallies..

And while Hillary still has to clean up the lose ends of her legal troubles, it’s a fair bet that future supreme court justice Obama will serve to be the deciding factor in any legal case brought before the court.

Many are looking back wondered why they did not see the danger earlier, and still many more nodded their heads at the phrase ‘we told you so.’

While a formal postmortem on the failed Trump candidacy is still to be conducted, many have already began piecing together the early signs of his ultimate defeat tonight.

After the Convention.

The enthusiasm in the first few events after the Trump Convention were palpable as excitement ran high. His expected after convention bounce put him in the lead over Hillary Clinton and the recurring theme of Trumpmentum seemed to be manifest and expectations mounted that he would run away with the race.

But then the stories of his past began flooding the airwaves. The accusations of fraud many ignored in the spring bubbled to the surface, and Trump’s only passing flirtation with the truth started to plague him on the trail.

For many it was a very new experience enduring the phenomena for Trump of ever falling poll numbers. Still Many more were dumbfounded that Trump’s usual approach of bombastic bullying only made the numbers drop even faster.

The Debate debacle

Towards the end the series of presidential candidate debates sealed the fate of Trumpmentum. Tactics that has served him well in the spring began backfiring in a spectacular fashion.

Instead of seeing a candidate ‘standing up for himself’, the general electorate saw a bully trying to shout down his opponent. While in the past his vague policy proposals protected him, this time around they became a liability. It became painfully obvious to all but his most ardent supporters that he would lose and lose big.

Worse yet, he had nothing in his bag of tricks to stop the slide – they only served to accelerate it further. Trump’s attempts at intimation only served boost Hillary’s sympathy vote. His accusations that she is a liar redounded badly as she pointed out all of his lies and flip flops.

In a final twist of the rhetorical knife that brought down the house, Hillary ended her victory speech with ‘Donald J, Trump.. You’re Fired!’

One final note… Please dispense with wasting your time responding with any manner of strident invective that seems to becoming increasingly endemic to those who support the subject matter of this predictive exposition.

Suffice it to say that If you can reply with forthright and intellectual arguments they will be well received and responded to, but not if your mannerism are that of the 3rd grade schoolyard.


215 Responses to “To be posted the evening of November 8 2016 after Trump Loses… (Guest Post)”

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    Trump Has The Lowest Favorability Ratings EVER For a Frontrunner
    Real estate mogul Donald Trump has the lowest favorability ratings ever for a presidential frontrunner.

    The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll shows Trump with a net favorability rating of -39, followed by 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney at -22, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) at -18, and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at -13. Trump’s -39 net favorability is the lowest of any presidential candidate ever recorded in the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

    “To me, this is the low point,” co-pollster Peter Hart told NBC News. “I’ve seen the disgust and the polarization. Never, never seen anything like this. They’re not going up; they’re going down.”

    The polling data consistently puts Trump with the lowest favorability ratings for a presidential candidate. This week’s ABC/Washington Post poll showed Trump with a net favorability of of -37 and an honesty metric of -42, which is “nearly twice as bad as Hillary Rodham Clinton,” according to Townhall’s Guy Benson. To put that in perspective, Clinton’s narrow loss in Michigan to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) was largely due to voters viewing her as too dishonest. Clinton is also facing a possible indictment for her email scandal. Yet, Trump’s honesty metric is almost twice as worse as Clinton’s.

    The numbers do not bode well for Republicans in a general election if Trump is in fact the nominee.

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    At Trump University, students recall pressure to give positive reviews
    Interviews and documents show that employees of Trump University at times applied pressure on students to offer favorable reviews, instructed them to fill out the forms in order to obtain their graduation certificates, and ignored standard practices used to ensure that the surveys were filled out objectively.

    “It’s absolutely a con,” said Mr. Guillo, who spent $36,000 on Trump University classes and later requested a refund. “The role of the evaluations were a defense against any legal actions. They anticipated those actions.”

    At the same time, students and their lawyers have raised doubts about Mr. Trump’s claim of 98 percent satisfaction. A website set up to defend Trump University,, has published 10,000 student evaluations, but not all of them were from paying students. They include some from the more than 3,000 free guests that paying participants were encouraged to bring to the classes. More than 2,000 other students never made it to the end of their courses — they sought and received refunds before the end of their classes, as company policy allowed, according to court records…

    At the conclusion of every program, teachers instructed attendees to complete surveys, rating the experience on a scale of one to 5. But, in what academics and experts said were unusual practices, Trump University did not explicitly offer students anonymity on the forms, often asked them to complete the documents in the presence of instructors and, according to internal Trump University documents made public in litigation, asked students to submit the surveys in exchange for their graduation certificates.

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    I Will Never Vote for Trump, and if He Loses to Hillary it Will be His Fault, not Mine
    It isn’t the fact that the guy was an activist liberal Democrat (and repeat donor to Democrats, including Hillary Clinton) until about five minutes ago when he decided to run for President. Definitely, that plays a large part in it, but if I believed his conversion was sincere, I could get over it and pull the lever in the end – if, again, I believed that he would remain reasonably true to conservative principles once he was in office.

    It isn’t the fact that, after running for President for nine months, he still demonstrates a startling lack of knowledge about basic policy issues, particularly foreign policy issues. That’s obviously concerning and by this point is illustrative of the fact that he is either uninterested in preparing for himself for the job he seeks to hold or (as I suspect) is incapable of ever becoming prepared.

    It isn’t the fact that he is obviously temperamentally unfit for the job and, if elected, would be an embarrassment to the Republican Party, the conservative movement, and the country as a whole. It isn’t even just the fact that I have real, live concerns that electing Trump would get the United States military involved in multiple completely unnecessary international conflagrations.

    His messy personal life is barely even relevant to me; many or even most of history’s highest functioning leaders had personal lives that bordered on continual disaster. If I thought Trump were capable of doing the job, I would overlook it.

    No, the thing that makes me unwilling to vote for Trump under any circumstances is that the man is rather obviously a genuine authoritarian at heart, based on a lengthy record of public rhetoric dating back to before the Tiananmen Square massacre and continuing through his recent and completely unveiled threats against the press for daring to report the truth about him and his political enemies for daring to disagree with him.
    I don’t owe anyone a vote. I give my votes to people who earn them.

    If you’re looking for someone to blame, maybe you should take a look at Trump.

    Maybe you should blame Trump for utterly failing to study anything pertaining to foreign policy for nine months.

    Maybe you should blame Trump for any number of the insane policy positions he’s taken which would make any serious person realize that he is unfit to hold the office.

    Maybe you should blame Trump for being so ignorant of judicial philosophy that he thinks judges sign bills.

    Maybe you should blame Trump for his cynical and disgusting manipulation of the fears of the uneducated during the course of the campaign, which both fueled his rise and solidified even marginally decent people in their stance against him.

    Maybe you should blame Trump for saying that if he got elected, he’d rewrite the First Amendment so that he could sue the press every time they wrote something mean about him.

    Maybe you should blame Trump for his open admiration for the leadership style of every tin-pot despot on the planet.

    Maybe you should blame Trump for promising to cut great, classy deals with the Democrats as soon as he got to Washington.

    Maybe you should blame Trump for his childish personal insults toward every Republican in the field, while he hasn’t said a single word about Hillary Clinton.

    Maybe you should blame Trump’s voters who overlooked all this and forced Trump as the nominee even though people like me have been saying from the start that we would never vote for him.

    Or you could blame me for not voting the way you want me to.

    I have never not voted for the Republican nominee for President since I turned 18 in the long ago. If it happens for the first time in 2016, and Hillary gets elected, it won’t be my fault. It will be Trump’s. He’s the one who failed to earn my vote. And Trump never did anything for me such that I owe it to him anyway.

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    @Troll On Retainer: 197 The Resort in Hawaii is run by Trump’s organization and they hire the workers. Does Trump himself interview and hire laborers, I doubt it, but his company does. Since I happen to know the facts on the Hawaiian deal, I read this article and, as I suspected, it is a total lie.

    Troll On Retainer, if that’s a sample of your clippings from the TNS, you need to ask for your money to be refunded. You’ve been ripped off.

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    @Troll On Retainer: TNS can’t get you any clippings from this year? I checked the dates on those and they’re mostly from 2015, one is from 2009. You should change News Services. And get a refund. Do you still get your paycheck when you post all that old stuff?

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    @Troll on Retainer:

    Where did you get the ‘sock puppet’ falsehood?

    I do admit when I get my terms incorrect. I accused you of being a sock-puppet, (ie. ‘one who has multiple accounts to support their arguments’) I mistakenly thought a sock-puppet included being a mouthpiece. I was picturing in my mind, someone else having their hand up your back and you speaking for them as also being a “sock-puppet”.

    oopsy-doopsy, Pardonne moi, Mea Culpa, forehead slap, etc…

    I therefore withdraw the sock-puppet accusation. Redteam has the right of it. What you are are more correctly would be is: a “Shill,” a.k.a. a paid troll for an opposing political organization. Perhaps one of Hillary’s Campaign, Bernie’s or even William Kristol’s #NeverTrump third party campaign. (We have noticed that you have a tendency to use Kristol’s website as a source.)

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    Donald Trump Is Not Prepared for the General Election
    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican presidential nomination may be in his sights, yet Donald Trump has so far ignored vital preparations needed for a quick and effective transition to the general election.

    The New York businessman has collected little information about tens of millions of voters he needs to turn out in the fall. He’s sent few people to battleground states compared with likely Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, accumulated little if any research on her, and taken no steps to build a network capable of raising the roughly $1 billion needed to run a modern-day general election campaign.

    Trump’s early campaign efforts, fueled so far by the sheer force of his personality and free media coverage, leave him with little choice but to rely on his party’s establishment allies — the Republican National Committee, above all — as the scale and scope of the 2016 contest grow exponentially. That’s even as he rails against his party’s establishment daily as corrupt.

    “He may be able to get by on bluster and personality during the primaries, but the general election is a whole different ballgame,” said Ryan Williams, a veteran of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaigns. “They’re essentially starting from zero heading into the general election.”

    Trump’s late start marks a sharp break from past Republican campaigns and that of Clinton, who is already beginning to shift resources to the November election. The Republican front-runner’s organizational disadvantage marks another warning sign for GOP officials who already feared he was unelectable this fall — even if he were well-prepared.

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    Trump accuses Cruz’s father of helping JFK’s assassin

    Donald Trump on Tuesday alleged that Ted Cruz’s father was with John F. Kennedy’s assassin shortly before he murdered the president, parroting a National Enquirer story claiming that Rafael Cruz was pictured with Lee Harvey Oswald handing out pro-Fidel Castro pamphlets in New Orleans in 1963.

    A Cruz campaign spokesperson told the Miami Herald, which pointed out numerous flaws in the Enquirer story, that it was “another garbage story in a tabloid full of garbage.”

    “His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald’s being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,” Trump said Tuesday during a phone interview with Fox News. “What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don’t even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it.”

    “I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?” Trump continued. “It’s horrible.”

    Trump’s tangent followed his rebuke of Rafael Cruz using the pulpit to court evangelicals for his son.
    Read more:

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    @Troll On Retainer: Geez, both of those clippings are over 6 months old. If that’s the best TNS can do for you, maybe you should change. Unless of course they don’t know the difference and you just get paid by volume and not content. If you need more clippings to get your volume up (only two today) I could tell you who to contact.

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    TV News Touts Trump, Crushes Cruz and Gives Bernie a Shot at Hillary
    On the Republican side, the networks awarded Donald Trump far more airtime than any of his rivals. Over the past four months, Trump received three times as much TV news coverage as his closest rival, Ted Cruz, and a whopping 15 times as much as John Kasich.

    In other words, the Democratic race was treated as an actual contest between Clinton and Sanders, while TV news coverage of the GOP race was organized around Donald Trump, with his competitors treated as afterthoughts.

    For this report, MRC analysts reviewed all 895 items about the 2016 presidential election that aired on the evening newscasts between January 1 and April 30. This includes 770 full reports, along with 50 anchor briefs and an additional 75 stories that focused on other topics but included at least some discussion of the campaign or one of the candidates.

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    Clinton predicted to beat Trump…due to economics
    Donald Trump is in trouble, according to a model that has correctly predicted the winner of every presidential race since Ronald Reagan in 1980.

    This time around the model — run by Moody’s Analytics — says a Democrat will win the White House. Hillary Clinton is widely expected to be the Democratic nominee.

    It’s a bad sign for Trump. Moody’s has been predicting a Democratic triumph since last August, but the margin of victory is getting bigger for the left as the economy has stayed relatively strong and President Obama’s approval rating has risen.

    The reason a Democrat will win isn’t about polling or personalities, it’s about economics, says Moody’s. The economy is the top issue in just about every election. When the economy is doing well, the party currently in office usually wins again. When the economy is tanking, Americans vote for change.

    So far, the U.S. economy is chugging along. It’s growing. Millions of people are getting jobs, home prices are rising and gas is cheap. All of this favors Democrats.

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    Buyer Beware: Trump Univ. Used Same Slimy Tactics as Candidate Trump Does Today
    There is a richly varied catalog of grounds for loathing Donald Trump as a presidential candidate. But even among the smorgasbord of personal flaws including his general intolerance, his overwhelming arrogance, and his involvement in myriad shady businesses, Trump University stands out as an unparalleled example of Donald Trump’s repulsiveness.

    The false brand.
    I believe deception pervaded the Trump University school to its core. Even the name misled unwary consumers; the institution was not a school, but a for-profit business which conferred no degrees and held no accreditation. Those who forked over thousands expecting to learn investment secrets from “professors hand-picked” by the Donald himself report being quickly disappointed to find that they’d been part of a bait-and-switch operation. Trump admitted in a recent deposition that, despite his personal involvement being a core facet of his marketing, he never actually “hand-picked” anyone.

    I think it is clear that the claims made by Trump University went beyond false advertising; the promises perpetrated upon its “students” were more than simple puffery. The apparent falsehoods seem to have gone to the heart of what the product actually was. And when sales talks misrepresent the very nature of a product at the expense of the consumer, in my opinion that’s clearly fraud. In this case, assuming witness statements to be true, the alleged fraud was twofold: the seminar business was neither the university it purported to be, nor did Trump manage that business as he had promised. Trump sought to capitalize on his public reputation – but failed to connect that brand to Trump University beyond slapping his well-known name on it.
    The predatory sell.
    The recently-released Trump University Sales Playbook details not only the sales script, but also the psychology underlying the predatory sales pitch; staffers were taught to prey on customers’ emotions while pushing them to open and max out credit cards for “tuition” payments. Salespeople were instructed about the “roller coaster of emotions” that consumers would experience, and about how best to use those emotions to effect a sale.

    Let’s face it: Donald Trump isn’t marketing to millionaires on their way to the Ivy League. He played to masses who were financially-strapped and ill-informed, and he played to them again when he began his campaign. Influencing the vulnerable is apparently this man’s business plan, and the “students” enrolled in Trump’s seminars were nothing more than canaries in the ultimate coal mine of our electorate.
    The denial.

    Trump’s “I said it, so it must therefore be true,” philosophy seems like a twisting of the law of attraction that would be funny if it weren’t so dangerous. The idea that positive thinking carries positive consequences is one that resonates in truth; but Trump’s mutation of the value of optimism appears to be manifesting in outright delusion.

    When watching Trump campaign, we all should think long and hard about this “University” because it’s the same guy using the same tactics trying to get all of us to buy into the same bad deal.

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