America: Obama’s new fertile ground for growing ISIS jihadis.

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a man can fail many times

Never send a community organizer to do a man’s job.

The other day Barack Obama made a most astonishingly stupid remark:

“..chanting ‘death to America” does not create jobs or make Iran more secure.”

The line appears to have to been written by the equally feckless Marie Harf, who called for fighting terrorists with jobs.

“We’re killing a lot of them, and we’re going to keep killing more of them. … But we cannot win this war by killing them,” Harf said on MSNBC’s “Hardball.” “We need … to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it’s lack of opportunity for jobs, whether –”

Harf and Obama fail to grasp a fundamental principle: kill them all and you win. Obama wants to defeat ISIS (you know, the JV) with ideas alone. Vladimir Putin, to whom Obama has ceded being the strongest leader in the world, understands and disagrees with Obama.

“It is not going to be enough to defeat ISIL in the battlefield,” Obama continued. The coalition will “have to defeat their ideology; ideologies are not defeated by guns but by better ideas,” he said, calling on the international community to help Abadi create the political and economic opportunities necessary to keep the Islamic State from winning followers.”

The problem is, it doesn’t work. That philosophy already failed- in Minnesota.

There is a substantial Somali-American community in Minnesota and ISIS attracts fighters from it.

The fighters appear to have made the decision to go fight with Islamic State of Iraq and Syria/Levant while the terror group was fighting to overthrow Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, but some may now be in Iraq, where the marauding group is seeking to topple Baghdad.

“A Muslim has to stand up for [what’s] right,” Abdirahmaan Muhumed told MPR News through a series of Facebook messages dating back to the beginning of the year. “I give up this worldly life for Allah.”

Having economic opportunity hasn’t been a roadblock to ISIS recruiting efforts.

Last year it was estimated that 15 Somali-American men had gone to fight for ISIS. The number has grown to 250 and the largest plurality comes from Minnesota:

A new congressional study out Tuesday says that American recruits for the Islamic State terror group leave from all across the country, with the highest percentage coming out of Minnesota.

The 65-page report from the Department of Homeland Security says that the government has failed to stop more than 250 Americans from traveling, or trying to travel, to in Syria since 2011. In the 58 cases that are public, 26 percent of the recruits who made the journey, or attempted to, were from Minnesota.

The states or areas with the next high percentages of recruits are California (12 percent) and New York/New Jersey (12 percent).

Those reaching the ISIS camps recruit others back home:

The report’s main message is that government currently lacks an effective strategy to prevent recruits from traveling to Syria. It also says law enforcement agencies are increasingly unable to monitor possible recruiting as ISIS is using more secure technology to communicate with those it’s seeking to influence.

“Americans who make it to the conflict zone are reaching back to recruit others,” the report states. “A number of the cases we reviewed involved Americans who made it to Syria and attempted to remotely recruit others back home.”

The report listed Abdi Nur, of Minneapolis, as a prime example. He left the country last year and has since spent months trying to persuade his friends to do the same.

“His peer-to-peer recruiting nearly worked, as six of his friends attempted to leave the United States for Syria; they were arrested by the FBI this April,” the report said.

Of course it’s difficult when the government’s principal objective is spying on the Tea Party and conservatives above all else. The report also calls attention to the danger of returnees. And there’s the problem. The report asserts that the US has no cohesive program for stopping Americans who seek to travel to Syria to fight for ISIS.

Roughly 250 Americans have either tried to go or succeeded in getting to Syria to engage in violent jihad, the report said. But the committee staff was able to identify only 28 cases were the individuals were stopped before leaving the U.S.

“It appears the majority — more than 85 percent — still managed to evade American law enforcement on the way to the conflict zone,” the report said.

One problem has been the lack of stringent screening efforts in Western Europe:

“At least 5,000 Westerners have gone to join ISIS. The vast majority are from Europe, where there are very relaxed travel standards. They don’t screen passengers the way we do. So it’s much more more difficult to determine if someone is actually going over to Turkey or Syria to join the fight.”

The President needs to put the hammer down and demand more rigorous screening. But I disagree that they should be stopped from leaving.

Let them go. Do not let them return. Strip them of their passports on their way out.

Period.

This administration has a rather lenient response to those who do return from the ISIS jihad:

It is against the law for Americans to independently travel overseas to fight in civil wars or armed conflicts against foreign governments. FoxNews.com has written about Americans who went to join the war in Syria in the past, including Eric Harroun, a onetime U.S. Army soldier from Arizona.

After FoxNews.com interviewed Harroun from the battlefield, he traveled back to the U.S., where he was arrested in June 2013. He pleaded guilty to lesser charges and was released, then died of an apparent overdose in April.

We don’t want them back. We don’t want anyone who chooses the fight against American interests to remain here either.

Obama has concluded that the fight against ISIS would be a long one:

“This is a long-term campaign … against its ideology.”

In other words, he’ll be out of town washing his hands of responsibility. Wouldn’t be great to send Obama and his entire cadre of idiots into Syria to fight ISIS armed with high capacity magazines filled only with ideas?

Obama is risk averse. I get that, but one gets the feeling that Russia could strike Alaska or Maine and Obama would do nothing more than crap his pants.

DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.

19 Responses to “America: Obama’s new fertile ground for growing ISIS jihadis.”

  1. 1

    Bill

    The line appears to have to been written by the equally feckless Marie Harf, who called for fighting terrorists with jobs.

    One of the primary reasons that region is so backward is because far too many Muslims are TAUGHT to hate and to drop whatever they are doing to go kill those they hate. Meanwhile, in developed parts of the world, people with responsibilities and economic goals don’t have the time to quit their jobs to go collect virgins.

    “It is not going to be enough to defeat ISIL in the battlefield,” Obama continued. The coalition will “have to defeat their ideology;

    This is a basically sound concept, but you do not disprove their erroneous ideology by showing how ours is nicer. You do it by showing them that following that ideology will most likely get you killed.

    Obama has concluded that the fight against ISIS would be a long one:

    Bush said the same thing and was ridiculed. However, what Obama should have said was, “The fight against ISIS the way I want to do it will be a LOSING one.”

  2. 3

    Nanny G

    There was a time when Somali Muslims were assimilated and doing well as both business owners and workers for others.
    But there’s a factor in ”radicalizing” Muslim communities that most outsiders miss:
    There is democracy inside the Mosques.
    Radicals will swarm into a moderate Mosque and demand an election of a new imam.
    After they get ”their guy” in he quickly radicalizes the entire congregation via threats of ”death to apostates.”
    Every once in a while a ”moderate” Muslim who feels threatened by such new radical leaders will do something like set the Mosque on fire.
    But usually, because it is the ”radicals” who can cite the koran to back up their actions as opposed to the ”moderates,” the congregants end up radicalized.
    This happened among the Somoli’s in Minn.
    As a result they became a huge problem for the Minn/StPaul airport as they demanded prayer rooms, no dogs, no alcohol, no improperly dressed women etc.
    And it also led to their young men being emotionally blackmailed into joining ISIS.
    (When you have two choices: I kill you now and you go to hell OR you go and fight with ISIS and perhaps get into paradise, which one will most teenagers pick?)

  3. 4

    Reem

    I’d rather have a ‘Community Organizer’ who ended the war and brought our troops home than the incompetent dry drunk who started all this shit based on lies. Yeah, I’m blaming Bush. If you can go back 8 years with your stupid ‘Community Organizer’ moniker, so can I-which is more to the point anyway.

  4. 5

    Bill

    @Reem: We KNOW you would rather have an incompetent, bumbling idiot liberal in charge, even if the world spirals out of control towards war and slaughter than a competent, concerned, dedicated President that kept us safe, defeated the Taliban, eviscerated al Qaeda and pacified Iraq, if that person happens to be a Republican.

    We get it. You’re a partisan, far left moron.

  5. 6

    DKK

    @Reem:
    Reem, no you can’t blame Bush because it’s not intellectually honest. You know it and we know it. Presidents deal with what is there when they are sworn in. He doesn’t have the luxury of sitting back for 8 years making constant blaming references to allegedly failed policies of his predecessor. What he does is set policy, and the framework of the govt he wants to run. And boy has he. The one thing Barry did say that was truthful (back in 2008) was, “we live in the greatest country in the world. Now let’s change it.” And how he has. He has cut the feet out from under the military, he has increased billions of dollars in aid to illegal aliens.- who he welcomes with open arms while pushing their costs on the American taxpayers. He talks about cutting social security but never cutting welfare.- despite the fact that social security is a paid in plan, not an entitlement. He has done nothing to vet the hundreds of thousands of Syrians already here, and much less the more he wants to let in. He has utterly undermined the very security of the US by failing, indeed refusing, to enforce federal laws on illegal immigration, leaving people in US border towns in constant danger and fending for themselves, or in some cases, dead. Barry can’t bring himself to utter the phrase “Muslim extremist” or “Muslim terrorist”- but he can jump on any racist, pro black. grandstand and take a polarizing position. He has deeply divided a country that was never so far apart as it is now, by his abject refusal to even consider another political point of view. And of course, he has surrounded himself with a cabinet of Muslim czars. He wants the Muslims to come in and take over. After all, “the sweetest sound in the world is the mullahs call to prayer.” See Barry quote, from one of his books. I leave you with one word- taqiyya. Do some real research on it, and not on sites that are promoted by two faced hypocrites like CAIR, who will just as soon stick a long knife in your back as act like your friend. And then research what happens in communities that have a critical mass of 20% or more Muslims.. That’s what’s coming here, and Barry is pushing it full speed ahead. And getting help from the lib tards whose sole concern is to buy more votes to stay in office.

  6. 8

    james raider

    We should all note that following today’s bombings on Syrian rebels by Putin’s planes, western media has a new term for these Al Qaeda type rebels — Moderates.

    The media is so bent on protecting Obama’s image from being perceived as what he really is, that it has to lie about these Oh-So-Moderate rebels that Putin is bombing.

  7. 9

    Artfldgr

    Reminds me of when people left for spain to fight fascism and didnt know they were under the aegis of stalin… heck, the soviets bragged how they created these islamic state operatives post hitlers mufti times… Russia has been supplying, advising, helping etc… this group since the earliest days after WWII… the left today ignores all that as if it didnt happen, and does so to their detriment.

    given that 70% plus are unfit to serve, i am sure glad that the women will go fight while, according to hillary, the men stay home and worry, which is the worst part of war (according to hillary)

    meanwhile, historical ignorants, like fiorina, think that they can act with russia they way they did with Iraq… fiorina says there will be a no fly zone… i wonder does she know it was russian pilots in those plants during the wars after vietnam, and that trying to make a no fly zone will result in a conflict. which is why the US had to stay back during israels war as there were too many russian soldiers on the opposition sides..

    a year or two ago the pilots from the conflicts had a reunion in moscow. there you saw the pilots that flew in vietnam and for north korea that stalin loaned..

    but the women will serve and save us men…
    we will stay home, we are male, pale and stale, and its their turn to wear the pants
    they earned it… their votes created this situation…

  8. 10

    Artfldgr

    @Nanny G: There was a time when Somali Muslims were assimilated and doing well as both business owners and workers for others.

    yeah.. but feminism marginalized the men and the state helping them gave the women welfare under the terms the state made, the men had to leave… (73% of black women, 51% of Latinas and 28% of white women are on welfare of some sort)

    [i watched it in my own inner city slum neighborhood as i grew up and watched these improvement poliices of the elite women and statists destroy the black family]

    the men pushed out had no families
    they ended up joining islam.. why? cause islam promises to make men heads of their homes again… (and a lot more brutal than the white picket fence of the capri pants era of the hated patriarchal 1950s)

    islam promises them respect, appreciateion, famliies, and so on.

    what does modern feminist society promise them?
    not even equity…

    not hard to realize after that.. and you can add a booster shot from the fact that prisons force race as a thing to prevent predators. so black islamics fast spanish la raza and ms 13, and whites whether they want to or not, have to join up with skinheads… or be everyones victim…

    so is it anywonder that since the changes of the womens force that things have gone this way? not much us unprotected male pale and stale people can do, if i remember correctly Valerie solanas a hero said we were walking dildos..

    how nice… you think that makes people, especially men, want to assimilate to a world that does that to them, and their children?

    even our leaders are effeminate to the point that putin rides horses, obama rides womens bike with helmet and wobbles…

    who do you think garners more respect from anyone but passifists and feminists that dominate voting?

  9. 11

    Artfldgr

    @Reem:

    i guess you forgot:

    Lincoln (D-AR)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Lieberman (D-CT)
    Biden (D-DE)
    Carper (D-DE)
    Nelson (D-FL)
    Cleland (D-GA)
    Miller (D-GA)
    Bayh (D-IN)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Breaux (D-LA)
    Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
    Kerry (D-MA)
    Carnahan (D-MO)
    Baucus (D-MT)
    Nelson (D-NE)
    Reid (D-NV)
    Torricelli (D-NJ)
    Clinton (D-NY)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Edwards (D-NC)
    Dorgan (D-ND)
    Hollings (D-SC)
    Daschle (D-SD)
    Johnson (D-SD)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Rockefeller (D-WV)
    Kohl (D-WI)

    told him to go ahead.

    and you will be VERY unhappy when the time comes that shows what happens when you do that… your ideas, like most of the lefts useful idiots are very childish… think bullies will stop hitting you cause your weak and have lots of stuff to take?

    a bigger war is coming… cause of people like you.
    you only haev to look to history…
    WWII was started by socialists both hitler and stalin were socialists.

    [that left right thing was a soviet thing. see: Right Opposition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Opposition.. as you dont even know where your own language misuse comes from tovarish… ]

    then came vietnam… that was the socialists too… or didnt you know?
    korea? socialists as well

    pretty much 90% of the conflicts over the last 100 years have been socialist started… if you think the US is also socilaist, then you ahve closer to 99%

  10. 13

    Mully

    @Reem:
    I’m sure you happily voted for Obama twice. You voted in part for him to fix the mess you blame Bush for. Well what has he fixed in almost 7 years? Fact is he has made a BIGGER mess and you can’t face it.
    You see when you don’t know what you are doing you can never tell when you are making mistakes and acting a fool. The hallmark of the Obama years.

  11. 14

    another vet

    @Mully: Based on the way he writes, I wouldn’t assume that he is old enough to have voted in both elections. Either that or he is very immature. He obviously just parrots the collective’s talking points.

  12. 15

    Reem

    @Bill: @Reem: We KNOW you would rather have an incompetent, bumbling idiot liberal in charge, even if the world spirals out of control towards war and slaughter than a competent, concerned, dedicated President that kept us safe, defeated the Taliban, eviscerated al Qaeda and pacified Iraq, if that person happens to be a Republican.

    We get it. You’re a partisan, far left moron.

    BILL
    Yup, Bush kept us safe…except for that one day when 3000 died after he received numerous warnings. Gimme a break loser.

    And DKK, you’re just plain nuts!

  13. 16

    Bill

    @Reem: So, you think Clinton ignoring Al Qaeda and passing up numerous opportunities to kill or capture bin Laden for 8 years is fine, but Bush’s 21 months in office makes 9/11 his entire responsibility? No wonder you vote so stupidly.

  14. 17

    Me

    @Reem: What a cogent argument, “I know you are, but what am I?” Clearly a superior intellect. Re-litigating Bush’s policy is ludicrous, as he obtained bipartisan Congressional approval before moving forward. Besides he’s been out of office for 7 years.

    When will the community organizer in chief be held to account for his disastrous missteps since taking office? By the tenor of your specious argument, I’m guessing you are thinking, never. Also, by the tenor of your argument, it seems you are never thinking.

  15. 18

    Smorgasbord

    What if obama was sent here to destroy the USA? Would what he is doing, and what he isn’t doing make sense then? THINK ABOUT IT.

    When obama said he wants a national civilian security force, I knew right then that he wanted to destroy the USA.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

    Keep in mind that he said this just a few days after he became president the first time. Why would he want a civilian security force that can defeat the military? Why did Hitler? The statement was deleted from the printed speech. WHY?

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