The “GOP has lost O-Care fight” claims Juan Williams recently.
Republicans bet the house that ObamaCare would be a disaster. They lost.
After a four-year feast criticizing ObamaCare, Congressional Republicans are now left picking at the crumbs of minor complaints. Their longstanding predictions of failure have come up empty. The healthcare reform plan is successful.
Even if Republicans gain control of the Senate in the midterm elections, the best they can do is stage the first Senate vote to repeal ObamaCare. That will come after 50 or more similar votes by the GOP majority in the House.
President Obama will veto any repeal bill, so even holding a vote amounts to one last gesture of futility from the defeated army of right-wing opposition.
More sour grapes are on display in the House. Republicans once promised to pass a detailed House plan as an alternative to ObamaCare before the midterms. But with the president’s program successfully launched, the House leadership has decided not to commit to any Republican plan until after the election.
GOP leaders rightly fear any such announcement would lead to a backlash. Voters would likely see the possibility of conservative proposals bringing forth bigger disruptions in the insurance markets and less coverage for the uninsured.
This success is an illusion. It is smoke and mirrors. CMS cannot resolve the discrepancies of almost 3 million applications:
The federal Obamacare marketplace was unable to verify nearly 3 million irregularities in the applications for enrollment, according to a new audit by the Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of the Inspector General (OIG).
The audit, released Tuesday, found that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) resolved less than one percent of so-called “inconsistencies” related to the citizenship and residency status of Obamacare sign ups.
“The Federal marketplace was not able to resolve inconsistencies related to: citizenship, status as a national, lawful presence, residency, family size, annual household income, and whether the applicant was eligible for minimum essential coverage through employer-sponsored insurance,” the audit said.
“According to CMS officials, as of Feb. 23, 2014, the Federal marketplace had resolved approximately 10,000 of the 2.9 million inconsistencies (less than 1 percent),” the audit said.
The big question- will Obama simply decree the inconsistencies irrelevant?
Anyone who’s been a reader here will know that we have repeatedly said that the only reason Obamacare appears to be a success is because most of it has not been implemented. Now democrats are picking up the pace on their retreat from Obamacare.
Back in April former Obama aide Robert Gibbs said that employer mandate would not survive:
“I don’t think the employer mandate will go into effect. It’s a small part of the law. I think it will be one of the first things to go,” he said to a notably surprised audience.
The employer mandate has been delayed twice, he noted. The vast majority of employers with 100 or more employees offer health insurance, and there aren’t many employers who fall into the mandate window, he said.
Killing the employer mandate would be one way to improve the law — and there are a handful of other “common sense” improvements needed as well, he said.
Others include better outreach ahead of next year’s enrollment — educating people about the law’s deadlines, penalties and subsidies; improved technology; and greater incentives, besides not having to pay a low penalty, to young people so they will enroll in health coverage.
And, most importantly, Gibbs said “health care has to add an additional layer of coverage cheaper than the plans already offered.”
Gibbs asserts that the employer mandate, already twice delayed, is a small part of the law. Small does not mean inexpensive:
This actually is one solution that some progressive commentators suggest when talking about ObamaCare fixes — and it makes at least some sense in terms of policy. The mandate will impose huge costs on employers, tying up their capital in regulatory costs rather than expansion and job creation. In fact, a new study shows that the costs for compliance will run between $4800-$5900 per employee for large employers, and that’s not including the rapidly-rising costs of premiums.
And there are major downsides to killing off the mandate:
On the other hand, canceling the employer mandate will provide even more incentive for those employers to dump their workers into the exchanges. That means tens of millions more Americans will have to deal with massive price hikes in premiums, and deductibles that all but assure them that they won’t see any benefit from those premiums. It’s a recipe for political disaster — especially if the White House dumps the employer mandate while enforcing the penalties for the individual mandate. Good luck explaining to consumers why Big Business got let off the hook while they get the gaff.
The notion of ending the employer mandate was immediately smacked down by Nancy Pelosi and Zeke Emanuel but it’s gaining momentum.
Robert Gibbs’ prediction that Obamacare’s employer mandate would — and perhaps should — be jettisoned shocked Democrats back in April.
By July, the former aide and longtime confidant of President Barack Obama had a lot more company. More and more liberal activists and policy experts who help shape Democratic thinking on health care have concluded that penalizing businesses if they don’t offer health insurance is an unnecessary element of the Affordable Care Act that may do more harm than good. Among them are experts at the Urban Institute and the Commonwealth Fund and prominent academics like legal scholar Tim Jost.
The employer mandate, Jost wrote in a Health Affairs post in June, “cries out for repair.” Repealing it “might not be such a bad idea,” if it’s replaced with something better for workers and businesses.
democrats are scared to death of this:
Leading Democrats in Congress aren’t bolting from the employer mandate, at least not before the November election. But the White House has delayed it twice in the past year, dubbed it “not critical” and said it will be phased in more slowly when its begins next year.
Obama has unilaterally delayed the ACA 24 times, both as a nod to big business and unions and to protect democrats from the fallout of Obamacare until after the 2014 election. Increasingly, unions want out of Obamacare.
One of the principal reasons for Obamacare was to cover the uninsured, but Obamacare will not reduce the uninsured below 30 million and it might increase the number to 40 million.
Obamacare is such a bad thing, so poisonous that Obama has delayed the big business mandate until he is effectively out of office.
As is now customary, a democrat President is once again leaving a pile of dung to be cleaned up by his successor. I am putting that marker down right now. Remember I said it once democrats start whining that Obamacare fell apart on someone else’s watch.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
Obamacare (PPACA) is settled law. No one is sure what the law requires today, and there is no clue as to what the law will mandate tomorrow. Remember: PPACA floats on a pen and a phone. Want to make business plans? Sorry. If you are in business, you are not allowed to know what will be required of your business one year or two years from now. Want to present your plan to investors? Good luck.
Want to control your own health? Sorry. Your control of your own health has been superseded. PPACA now controls your health. Whether you live or die is up to an unelected Death Panel.
The whip hand (perhaps whim hand?) of the regime is around the throat of one-sixth of the economy. And the economy had better be egalitarian, socialist, and values free. We are to become the worst imaginable combination of North Korea and Iran, by order of the Communist Agitator In Chief. It works for him.
The Big Money supports this fiasco. The Courts have no troops. Zero has all the guns, all the tanks, all the ammunition, and he does not allow dissent. He has Justice, IRS, EPA, EEOC, and hundreds of other agencies to punish those who disagree.
The only problem: The Media will be the first up against the wall (for execution) when the Revolution is finished. At that point it will be too late.
Now that Obama has changed ObamaCare over 20 times it has fallen apart.
Maybe there are some who don’t realize it yet, but it has.
See, ObamaCare depended on an interwoven web of every part of it in order to pay for itself and work effectively.
The CBO now cannot even figure the costs of ObamaCare because of the changes Obama did to get re-elected (and to get Dems re-elected.)
http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/06/05/cbo-we-cant-score-obamacare-anymore/
Quote from that article: A translation for non-bureaucrats: We’re flying blind here.
And how do Obama’s dog-whistle listening bureaucrats treat ”flying blind?”
As a way to reward their friends and punish their enemies. (a la IRS)
About Juan Williams, he lives in a completely alternate universe.
The carve-outs, exceptions and exemptions seem to be without end. With so many, O-care is absolutely devoid of any kind of value. Here in CO, the Democrat governor and Democrat-controlled legislature are starting to worry where the money is going to come from. They can’t use the marijuana tax collections because they don’t generate that kind of revenue and they’ve already been earmarked for “education”.
Juan Williams is first and foremost an Obama apologist. If Obama were to order the destruction of the Statue of Liberty, Juan would find no fault with it.
Will all the illegal changes Obama has made to the PPACA, it become obvious it is failing. And it’s likely there will be more changes by Obama to try to keep the coming elections from being a disaster for his party.
Juan is a traitor and sounding board for whatever is 0-blama. He is a racist due to his out of touch views on this subject!!
@Nanny G: I believe that what you think you are seeing is largely a feint — notice please that NO ONE has actually come out in favor to REPEAL the basic fraudulent legislation — where is the introduced legislation? — therefore it is still in force – just has not yet been implemented by the ‘right’ people — since the Republicans are blocking the way — it is all bogus — the influx of criminal invaders with their diseases is biological warfare intended to start making more people scream for ‘health care’
In the medieval days they used to catapult rotting bodies of animals and/or people dead or dying from war wounds or disease – the more putrified the better — THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING
@David: Ah! — BUT! — it is still the law of the land! — Just needs to be ‘properly’ implemented!
@John: Juan Williams — that fool is one reason I hardly ever watch FOX anymore — between him and the rest of their haram of RINO harlots, psycho-babbling idiot ‘liberals’ and the presstitutes!
FOX is the best of all of them,
JUAN is the usefull idiot for OBAMA,
SO TO EQUALIZE THE FACT THEY ARE BEING FAIR TO ALL PARTIES,
I love how every now and then Juan completely forgets how PBS fired him for his own ”racist” statements.
(Those are scare quotes, btw.)
But after a few thousand emails reminding him, he does a 180′ the very next day.
If he were back on a liberal media outlet he would revert to type.
Fox viewers won’t let him.
Lol! Yeah, you wish. The ACA is working, it’s helping to save lives including quite possibly a family member of you nay sayers. It’s here to stay.
@John:
Obamacare was built for one thing only: To enact a hostile takeover of 1/6th of the economy, and then use it to crash our capitalist economic system under it’s heavy heel. Exactly as planned under the Communist Manifesto, Cloward and Piven & Alinsky’s Rule for Radicals.
I cannot forget how those with intelligence and a great grasp of history, government and politics not to mention great judges of ‘Character’ ….those who could see right through OFraud, his administration, the MSM from the get go.
Those who, back in 2009 talked, wrote about and protested (Tea Party) endlessly against this government ‘take over’, the spinning of our Constitution, the very bad intentions of ACA (obamacare), and the lies from the Democrat Politicians (we all know who and what was said) who gladly voted for and for those on the fence Democrats who were back room bribed to vote for this catastrophe shoved down the throats of the American People…
Obamacare is what happens when liberal ’emotions’ get in the way of critical thinking (or in this case and every case, emotions and absolutely no thinking in the big picture context )…
….It’s depressing to know we have so many losers in this country…and in our Government…we all suffer even more for it….
So glad Hilliary still has ‘some’ of her millions…she has no problem paying for her superior ‘health care’ and those pesky premiums and $5000.00 deductibles…
I still would have gone along with opening up the markets across state lines and invite healthy competition in this industry….
Obama has altered ObamaCare unilaterally once again!
An inspector general report released last week found that the HealthCare.gov marketplace couldn’t show it had been reconciling its monthly enrollment numbers with insurance companies.
That’s despite the fact that the law specifically calls for this reconciliation.
See, Obama never SET UP the system to actually do the reconciliation!
So, there are far fewer enrollees than claimed which we would plainly see if these numbers were reconciled as required by law.
In states with their OWN reconciliation process we learn that 13% of those counted haven’t paid their premiums.
Insurers find the numbers even worse.
Aetna says 19.4% of those ”enrolled” never paid their premiums.
Since there is now a mandatory 3 month ”grace period” we have no idea how many who paid once have now quit paying.
Kaiser Insurance says 43% of their new ObamaCare plan holders say they probably cannot continue to keep up their high payments.
Overall, insurers say they are losing 15% who just never paid at all plus 3% each month who pay once or more.
Q2 earnings reports from all medical insurers are due at the end of July.
Looks like Obama’s initial rosy 8 million might fall to fewer than 5 million by the time we understand those Q2 earnings reports plus all this other.
Stats:
http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/070814-707833-obamacare-enrollment-numbers-unreliable-government-audit-finds.htm
@This one: Again a lack of adding intelligent information to the conversation. Give us a list of those people who are being aided by Obama care who are not on Medicare or being in limbo due to the 3 million policies not being able to be confirmed. I am sure the Huffington Post would love to hear your apologies for Obama.
Obamacare is crumbling?
You know, if Dr John and his band of bobbing head merrymen could ever pry their heads from the bowels of festered hatred and bigotry and actually evaluated an unbiased news source, perhaps they’d realize how profoundly ignorant they come across.
What’s really going on in this week’s rational headlines is that ACA has proven to be a success with enrollment going up, rates going down, more people insured than before, and Republicans ducking for cover. Voters are liking it more and the GOP’s scraping egg from their faces and regrouping.
No DJ, Obamacare is not crumbling and yes, you say incredibly stupid things.
The ACA isn’t crumbling. Nor is the U.S. economy, for that matter.
Maybe somebody needs to put up a few helpful signs with arrows and words that read THIS WAY BACK TO REALITY. I doubt if the New York Post will do it.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Shove your bogus racism charge. Not that you care, but your continued reliance on such false claims simply highlights your stupidity and desperation. I suppose you think we would have supported the socialist takeover of medicine had Hillary been elected?
Where you get the idea that obamacare is popular must come from fevered delusion. Even Gallop shows over 50% disapproval. Your claim that rates are going down further illustrates your insane denial, as even the NYT has reported insurance companies are requesting an average 12% INCREASE in premiums this fall.
Perhaps you missed Robert Gibbs, former Obama spokestool as.one of many dem mouthpieces saying the employer mandate should be scrapped. This was the linchpin of obamacare. If your bizarre fantasy of obamacare’s popularity and functionality had any basis in reality, don’t you think the employer mandate would have been enacted – as the law set – on 1 Jan 2014, instead of being delayed beyond the end of Obama’s second term?
You are either cosmically clueless or deliberately deceitful.
@Greg:
Yeah, Greggie, with the labor participation rate o 62.8, a low not seen since November, 1977, I guess you think the economy is just humming along.
@retire05, #18:
As of July 2014, the United States has had 52 consecutive months of private sector job growth. 9.7 million private sector jobs were added to the economy during that 52 month period. That’s a long way up from the hole the economy was in when Obama took office. At the point he took office, the national economy was headed in the opposite direction. “Nosediving” would be an accurate description.
In addition to that, the stock market has risen to record highs.
Maybe you could get that labor participation rate up if more people were working for a living rather than living off of their investments.
@Greg: June 2014 Heritage Foundation study differs from your trumped-up numbers:
Farther more…
@Greg:
Let’s take a look at actual numbers, provided courtesy of the BLS, shall we?
When Obama took office in Jan. 2009, the employment rate was 142,152,000. As of July, 2014, that number is 146,221,000, or slightly over 4 million. Now, for some reason you picked the arbitrary “52 months” so we shall look at that, as well. 52 months ago, the employment rate was 138,752,000. No matter how you crunch the numbers, that doesn’t come to 9.7 million jobs. We would have to have an employment rate of 148,452,000 which we don’t have. Even so, our current employment numbers don’t match the high of 14,659,000 in November, 2007.
So for you to pretend that Obama has even come close to the employment rate of November, 2007, while misleading the actual job numbers, is simply disingenuous on your part. Oh, and those numbers don’t even factor in the population growth.
Which looks eerily like it did before the crash in ’29 and the mortgage market crash during the last year of the Bush administration.
There, fixed it for you.
And let us see what the vaunted stock market does when the fed ends quantitative easing in October….
The Bureau of Labor Statistics includes those unemployed but receiving unemployment insurance as being “in the labor force”. In other words, they dishonestly count those receiving unemployment insurance as essentially being employed. The “Employment Rate” does not differentiate between full time or part time, nor does it consider how many jobs a person is employed at. Reducing full time 40-hour workers to 30-hours, or full time to below former part- time hours workers does not change the number of jobs those people work. Nor does laying off loyal, long-term higher wage workers to hire replacement staff at lower wages. Those who’s unemployment compensation expires are dropped from the books and the government acts like they no longer exist. The BLS does not include Retired Workers as being in the labor force either, although it does include those who replace them (at lower wages).
The government is playing games with the numbers to make the job situation look better than it is.
Ditto
they are not accurate in their survey, they should ot be counted as real,
what”s their point of giving wrong information,
BYE
Ditto
hi
they don”t want to remove the UNIONS,
well, check my idea here: REMOVE THE UNIONS FROM THE EMPLOYEES ,
AND UNIONIZE ALL THE VETERANS FROM ALL THE HOSPITALS,
AND CHECK IT UP, THE BIG UNIONS PROTECTING THE VETERANS INSTEAD OF THE EMPLOYEES,
who would be on their own merit, to do a good job or be fired,
that would be for a very low fee, on the VETERANS, and they would be protected,
AND THE UNIONS WOULD GET THEIR MONEY ON THE NUMBER OF VETERANS UNIONIZE,
AND THAT IS A DAMN GOOD IDEA,
WE NEED PROTECTION FOR THE VETERANS NOT THE EMPLOYEES, that is FROM What WENT wrong ON ALL THESE YEARS, they are being treated bad and they get rob also,
they cannot complain but they would complain to
their own UNIONS
IF NOT
OR GET RID OF THE UNIONS
@ilovebeeswarzone:
The purpose is to make the numbers look better than they are.
@Ditto, #24:
You’re misunderstanding the category. The labor force is not synonymous with people who are currently employed. The category includes both people who have jobs, and people who want jobs but don’t currently have them. Whether an unemployed job seeker is receiving unemployment compensation or not has nothing to do with it. The fact that a person receives unemployment compensation does not prevent that person from being included in the count of those who are unemployed.
Refer to the Bureau of Labor Statistics explanation of Who is not in the labor force.
@retire05, #22:
The 9.7 million is the total count of all jobs created during the months covered, not the net gain after subtracting out the number of jobs lost over the same period. Highlighting this figure can be thought of either as the Obama administration putting its best face forward, or as a misleading statement. The number isn’t actually a lie, however.
If you wish to consider it a lie and go with the net gain, consistency would require you to apply the same methodology to the George W. Bush years. I doubt if you’ll like the comparative results, however. You can see the net gain counts in the Created column of this Wikipedia chart. You can do your own arithmetic if you distrust the source.
@Greg: The argument omits the admitted intentional sabatage of the economy from the GOP in order to unseat or blame Obama, their lack of interest in any and all job creating legislation, and their tilt of promoting austerity. We could also visit their refusal to allow up and down votes on important positions that plays into the economy and job growth, many of which after years of being held up, were confirmed in the upper 90%. I mean, what the hell’s up with that?
GWB nor any other President in history had to contend with the profound hatred and insistence on failure from the opposition party as BHO. And ironically, the same party that soundly crashed the economy only to dump it in his lap.
It’s by no stretch an apples to oranges argument.
Ronald J. Ward
what a sorry ass you are, every time you come to attack the CONSERVATIVES,
can you talk about how you like the failures of OBAMA,
yes those too, but tell us about the last ones,
when he needed RICK PERRY’S COMPASSIONATE HELP to give him advices,
active duty troops are being told they will lose their military position ,
due to the military budget,
that is horrible is giving the troop more anxiety, on top of their actives duty,
this is insanity to hurt them on purpose, that is evil,
@Greg:
Be more than happy to:
Using BLS statistics on nonfarm employment:
January, 2001 – 132,694,000 jobs
January, 2009 – 133, 976,000 jobs
net gain? 1,282,000 jobs
January, 2009 – 133,976,000 jobs
July, 2014 – 138,780,000
net gain? 4,804,000 jobs.
The only way you can reach the 9.7 million jobs number is to completely discount the 4,321,000 lost under Obama in his first years of office which bottomed out in February, 2010 @ 129,655,000 jobs. But I’m sure you will come back with your standard response of “but, but, Bush.”
So no wonder you want to use a Wikipedia article written by an anonymous author and not the BLS statistics themselves.
@Ronald J. Ward:
It was not a Republican president who signed the Community Reinvestment Act, or used a false report from the Boston Fed to put the CRA on steroids. And if you read any economist, from Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, John Lott and Stan Liebowitz, all of them have proven that the one largest contributing factor to the mortgage industry melt down was the Community Reinvestment Act.
Get back to us when we see protesters marching down the streets of D.C. carrying placards of a beheaded Obama like they did with Bush. Then, and only then, do you have a complaint. Until then, I know you will continue to use the race card. News flash; I don’t dislike Obama because he is half black, I dislike him because he is totally Red.
@retire05, #33:
That’s what I told you in post #22. The 9.7 million is the gross jobs created count—the total before deducting the number of jobs lost during the same period.
As to “but, but, Bush,” yes, a comparison can be made. As I also noted, if we’re going to compare the net jobs created count, the numbers are as you stated: 1,282,000 for 8 years of the Bush administration, vs. 4,804,000 for the Obama administration in only a bit over 5 1/2 years.
It would appear that the net total of jobs gained on Obama’s watch is much higher, even for a shorter period of time.
@Greg:
I’m not misunderstanding anything. The BLS as usual, uses a misleading descriptive term they have labeled “the labor force” that they present every month, and low information wonks like you use the incomplete data to make it appear more people have it better off than they actually do, that more are employed, and to give a false appearance that less people are looking for employment. I understand where they they are deriving their numbers for this supposed “labor force” better than you do. They only include those unemployed searching employment who are also still registered with the state unemployment offices and using their services to search for employment. Anyone else looking for employment on their own are not counted. If your unemployment insurance runs out and you stop visiting your state unemployment office to report, you are not counted. The BLS month labor force report does not differentiate on how many jobs are: full-time, part-time, seasonal or temporary positions. The BLS Labor Force report does not average and compare the average wages of the new hire workers, nor does it compare the current total wages reported from month to month. It does not include workers who lost their jobs but did not qualify for unemployment insurance. Any union workers on strike, are still considered in the labor force, even though they receive neither pay from their employer, nor unemployment compensation. Any government worker on suspension or on paid leave are considered as labor even though they are not working. The BLS does not tell in the LF report how many workers retired or discern if they were replaced by a lower wage worker. Nor does the monthly BLS report give a true accounting of how many have stopped looking for work, the assumption made instead is that if the workers are not reporting to their state unemployment office, then they are not working or looking.
What is hypocritical about Democratic wonks like you all this is that: IF the current monthly BLS report numbers were being read by leftists under a Republican President, then you would be telling us how bad these numbers really are, you would be agreeing with me that the numbers are not telling the whole story, and you would be protesting about what the real unemployment rate is. I know, because Democrats did exactly that under Bush. What’s more, I concur that the Establishment Republicans under Bush were spinning the numbers, (just as you are now,) and not giving the full facts. Wages and employment have done poorly for nearly two decades now thanks to the corrupt Washington DC Establishment Crony Capitalism of bothparties. You just want to pretend it’s all Unicorns and Rainbows under Obama. Get your head out of your anterior orifice.
@Ditto, #30:
You’re essentially criticizing the Bureau of Labor Statistics for not counting an unknown component of the unemployed work force that there’s really no means to count. Rather than accepting conclusions derived from the best numerical data that’s available, we’re apparently supposed to accept the right’s subjective notion that national levels of unemployment are terrible, that the economy has never really recovered, and that all statements to the contrary are part of some sort of leftist conspiracy to pull the wool over the public’s eyes.
I’m afraid I don’t buy it. I’ve pretty much had it up to the gills with 5 1/2 years of unrelenting republican negativity. Which is actually a very long way from saying that I think everything is Unicorns and Rainbows.
Do you really think that state unemployment offices are the only way to find out information how many Americans are unemployed and that there is no other way to? Are you that dense? The IRS can supply relevant information as can every government entitlement program office. The government has tons of information on the majority of it’s citizens and is fully capable of correlating specific data to come up with a better measure of the real picture.
Well, Greg, if you are really so fed up, then you are certainly free to leave FA. No one is forcing you to troll here and I doubt you would really be missed. There are tons of your fellow believers in Unicorns and Rainbows at The Daily Kos and Huffington Post. Bu-bye, bu-bye.
First, ObamaCare crumbled the economy:
Since Obama took office, the economy has added seven times more part-time jobs than it has created full-time jobs.
Each part-time job counts as ”a job.”
Since January 2009 the country has added a net total of 270,000 full-time jobs, but it has added 1.9 million part-time jobs, according to the House Ways and Means Committee.
Stats from: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/aug/5/obama-economy-part-time-jobs-swamp-full-time-jobs/#ixzz37LUnCzm9
But lots of perks are lost to part-timers even if they have two or more jobs equalling more than a full-time job’s time/week.
So, Obama looks good on paper.
Who are holding jobs?
Not young people.
OLDER PEOPLE!
The percentage of workers 55 and older has steadily been climbing, nearing four-decade highs since Obama took office.
In 1975, nearly 35 percent of the labor force was 55 and older, but that figure had fallen to about 29 percent by 1993.
Since then, labor force participation for this group has risen steadily, peaking at 40.5 percent of the entire labor force in 2012. In 2013, it barely declined, with 40.3 percent of older workers still making up the labor force.
Stats from: http://www.ebri.org/pdf/notespdf/EBRI_Notes_04_Apr-14_LbrPart.pdf
Next ObamaCare, itself, IS crumbling:
Doctors are concerned they won’t be paid for their services by either the insurer or the patient so they are declining to accept ObamaCare insured people.
They were not going to be taking any Obamacare insurance because they will never get paid.
Doctors wrestle with the question of how to plan for an ACA exchange patient’s care while uncertain about that patient’s ability to meet a high deductible or co-payments.
“How do I plan for a patient who needs to have surgery that’s a large amount of money,’’ Eduardo Martinez, an internist and vice president of the Dade Medical Association, said. “Who do I send him to? Which of my colleagues do I refer him to knowing that my colleague is going to take a financial hit? The whole chain of services gets affected.’’
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/07/12/4231632/some-south-florida-docs-decline.html#storylink=cpy
@Greg:
When an administration skews the numbers by adding perimeters that were never used before, as in the number of “deportations” under Obama that you touted so loudly, yes, that would appear to be a clear attempt to pull the wool over the public’s eyes.
This administration, unlike previous administrations counts as two jobs created if one person has two part time jobs. It is even stated on the BLS website that this number is used in order to count those who are not reported as having a job but working under the table; i.e. illegals who pay no SS/income taxes. How is it not dishonest to count a worker twice? It is still only ONE person employed. The method used by this administration explains why job numbers are growing yet we have a pathetically small percentage in the work force reaching low levels of the Carter administration. And the methods that you choose to accept are the very spin being used by this administration.
If we were to count the job increase under Bush, eliminating the job loss as you do with Obama, his figure is higher than Obama’s.
As to the economy: an economy is moving along well when we have an increase in GDP. How’s that working out for you? And an increase in GDP is created when workers have more disposable income to spend on goods and services. What was the price per gallon of gas when Obama took office? How about food? What was the price of hamburger when Obama took office? But ironically, the three things that are the greatest expenditure of all families (housing, food and fuel) are not counted in this administration’s inflation data.
There is no way that you can make the case that this nation is healthier now than it was 10 years ago. And there is no way that you can lay the blame for the housing market crash on Bush if you are honest about the research by leading economists who have linked that crash back to the Community Reinvestment Act. You can prattle on about how well the DJIA is doing, but that is due to one reason; profits and dividends. Companies are holding on to their money, hedging against the bad times that are looming against the future. That should scare you like everyone who really understands what is happening.
Without Texas, Obama’s job numbers would be less than dismal. Although Texas represents only 8% of our national population, it saw an increase of 26% of all the jobs that you want to credit to Obama. And if you want to claim that these are all “low wage” jobs, I will be more than happy to allow you to smear egg all over your face with that claim. The number of high paying jobs actually being created in Texas is higher than the national average, and the stats prove that. You see, Greggie, conservative governments work. The job growth, that you are so quick to credit Obama with, has been created in red states with conservative practices while blue states run by Democrats are actually drying up and becoming desolate areas.
So while you tout Obama’s [false] job numbers, there is nothing to say that the same thing that happened in the last year of the Bush administration is not going to happen in the next two years of the Obama administration.
Unemployment rate by state does prove it.
See the graph:
http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm#
Majority of states with the lowest unemployment rates = Republican.
Majority of states with the highest unemployment rates = Democrats.
@Greg: You forgot that full time jobs that were converted to part-time jobs were counted as created jobs. 2 Full time jobs can equal 3-4 created jobs under this administration accounting methods.
Here is a quick example of why obamacare is going to continue to fail.
Medicaid pays $26.00 for a pediatric clinic office visit in Texas. It costs the pediatrician more than that to process the paperwork for the claim, pay the admin and nursing staff who will work on the patient, and the overhead to run the office – not to mention any medical testing supplies needed for the appointment – so the pediatrician will go bankrupt taking care of medicaid patients. So outpatient pediatric clinics in my part of Texas have not been accepting medicaid patients for over 2 years. If doctors are not accepting medicaid patients because of the inadequate reimbursement rates, how on earth can anyone believe that doctors will be willing to accept obamacare patients if obamacare reimbursement rates to physicians are going to be even lower than already rejected low medicaid payment rates? Over 2/3rds of physicians in California are refusing obamacare patients because the reimbursement rates are lower than medi-cal payment rates – notorious for being one of the lowest medicare payments rates in the country.
Anyone who makes the ridiculous claim that obamacare is working is either grossly ignorant or a dishonest leftist partisan hack.
PETE
HI,
that”s what i thought from the begining,
and you know who will work for a miserable pitance?
the foreigners who come out of schools paid by government,
the MUSLIM CROWD included,
and i fear that there are many in the VET HOSPITALS, WHO DON’T KNOW SHIT,
AND MANIPULATE THE SYSTEM, TO COVER THEIR IGNORANCE,
so be they are ready to get a job in OBAMACARE obedient
of all OBAMA DESIRES,
@Ditto, #38:
I’m not quite as dense as you keep asserting. The BLS compiles and reports estimated employment and unemployment figures on a monthly basis. The IRS couldn’t provide monthly information because the vast majority of taxpayers and employers don’t report to the IRS monthly. Nor are monthly employment status reports required of those entitled to such things as Social Security retirement benefits, Social Security survivor benefits, Medicare, VA pensions, Federal Employee Retirement benefits, Civil Service annuities, etc.
Possibly offices administering the food stamp program and direct need-based aid programs could glean and report monthly employment status data, but not without an expansion of resources to make that sort of expanded data collection and compilation possible. It wouldn’t exactly be a big step in the direction of more efficient administration, and the additional data resulting might prove to be relatively insignificant.
Entitlement program sources might provide significant relevant information on an annual basis, sometime after the relevant reporting deadlines during each following year, but that would be useful mainly to fine tune the historical understanding of what has happened. The big problem would be that such information wouldn’t be anywhere near current enough for public and private sector entities to utilize it in making timely administrative and business decisions. That’s what the information is actually being compiled and reported for. It’s not collected and reported to provide competing partisan factions with a football.
@retire05, #40:
Do you have some credible reference documenting this recent change in statistical methodology? Otherwise, I’ll assume it to be just one more bit of disinformation that the right-wing propaganda mill has cranked out, which few of their eager audience have bothered to question.
By the way, I understand that many employers have reduced new-hire hours to keep their workers part-time, as a means of evading health insurance requirements. Very commendable behavior. Not only do they dodge providing decent benefits; they contribute to the growing number of people who are becoming virtual corporate serfs. Of course they’re free to change one serf position for another as often as they wish. After all—this is America.
@Greg:
Your devotion to marxism is showing again, Greg.
When political hucksters pass laws that increase the cost of doing business, like obamacare very significantly does, the business owner does not have a magical money tree to go print new dollars to pay for another round of government theft/vote buying. The business owner has to make a profit to keep his doors open. It is not the business owner’s responsibility to provide the funding for every leftist vote buying scam, and no matter how many times you socialist morons keep pulling these economy damaging stunts, you refuse to acknowledge the very real negative impact of stupid collectivist policies….and you have the cluelessness to blame the business owner for responding in the only manner left available to him other than closing up shop completely.
I expect nothing else from such a devout socialist as yourself.
@Greg:
bls.gov
I’m sure a smart fellow such as yourself will be able to find that information, Greggie.
Really, Greggie, you do need to take Economics 101. It is not “contribut
eing to the growing number of people who are becoming virtual corporate serfs.” It is simply survival. A business, especially a small one, or one that is just getting started, has two options: reduce the work force to part time so that it can continue to remain in business by not having to provide health insurance, or providing health insurance to those remaining employees after they lay enough off to compensate for the cost of Obamacare and throwing other employees into the unemployment line. Or, the third option; just go out of business because the market will not bear the additional cost of their product.So which is your choice, Greggie? Would you reduce hours to at least keep all your employees; would you provide insurance and lay off part of your employees; or would you raise the prices on your product knowing it will put you out of business? So how about an honest answer from you for a change?
Bullshit. Anytime you hire a new employee, you have to submit their information directly to not only the IRS, but Social Security as well. Showing your lack of acumen when it comes to business, and how it works, I guess you think that businesses can just submit those reports when ever they get around to it. And those taxes collected from the employees? They must be paid by the businesses monthly, if a small business, or even weekly.
You are really stupid, Greggie.
I’m only “socialist” to the extent that I believe that we all share certain collective social responsibilities as Americans, which are more than offset by the unmatched personal freedoms and opportunities that we enjoy. Thinking that all the benefits of being an American can permanently enjoyed without accepting a part in the responsibilities that make the entire system possible is a fantasy.
@Greg:
Collective social responsibilities?
I’ve read the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, I’ve studied the Constitution, bought books about it, read the Federalist Papers, and the Anti-Federalist Papers, and I’ll be damned if I found anything even resembling “collective social responsibilities” in any of those documents, writings and books.
So perhaps you can tell me where I will find that mindset, Greggie, other than in Das Capital?
As an American, you have but one responsibility, and it is an individual one, which is to not be a burden on society. But you support those who ARE a burden on our society, from the welfare recipient to the illegal alien. Unfortunately, I don’t think you have the intellect to even grasp what I mean by “you have but one responsibility, and it is an individual one, which is to not be a burden on society. ”
And once again, as is your standard MO, you refused to answer my questions. I guess you thought that would go unnoticed. It didn’t.