There is no racism like liberal racism. Part 2

@retire05: I suggest you ask Mexicans if they consider being called “wetbacks” racist or derogatory? I’ll abide by that.
Los Mojados is not objectionable. Wetback ( one word) most certainly is objectionable and you know it 05. Spin it any way you want.
RT doesn’t find it offensive if someone calls him a red neck hillbilly So noted.

@retire05: Quite simply and to be clear. When I refer to “Mexicans” in the context of this post I’m speaking of the overwhelming majority that are here legally–would you rather Mexican Americans or American citizens of Mexican descent? Do we agree they are not to be called wetbacks?

@Richard Wheeler:

Christie Ya gotta love him.

I would say the dims should love him.

@Richard Wheeler:

RT doesn’t find it offensive if someone calls him a red neck hillbilly So noted.

As I said ‘red neck’ is a culture, I’m fine with that. Hillbilly denotes a person from the hills, that’s not me, so if someone referred to me that way, I’d say they are ignorant. Same as wet back. If I were to refer to a person as a wet back, it would be because I knew that person had entered the US illegally via crossing the Rio Grande illegally. It would not refer to race and it wouldn’t refer to anyone legally in the country. So, I’m guessing that if someone (not me) called a person a wet back that wasn’t a wet back that the person being called a wet back would just assume that the person using the term was ignorant. Race would not enter the picture. Anyone that thought it was racist would be playing the Race Card (obama is a charter member of the Race Card Club). Persons that play the race card for non racist situations are racist and about 99% of them are Dimocrats.

@Richard Wheeler:

. When I refer to “Mexicans” in the context of this post I’m speaking of the overwhelming majority that are here legally

People who are Americans, who can track their ethnic heritage back to those of Mexico, Spain, or any other Spanish speaking nations, are frankly, just Americans. No hyphen. Just Americans. The term “wet back” simply has been reduced to mean Mexicans who have entered the U.S. illegal, but is applicable to any ethnicity or race that sneaks across the Rio Grande river to enter the U.S. illegally. The term arose from an action, not the race of the people committing the action,.

And I certainly don’t know anyone in my state that would refer to a Tejano as a “wet back.” Perhaps that is a California thing. It’s not a Texas thing. So, if in your state, people are referring to those with Mexican heritage, who were born here or entered our nation legally, as “wet backs”, it seems that California, among other things, is infected with a hefty dose of liberal bigots.

So no, Americans born of Mexican heritage should not be called “wet backs”, but here, in my state, they are not. As to calling those who have violated our law a name that is aptly descriptive, I find no problem with it. But then, I’m not eat up with cultural Marxism political correctness.

Again, what race are Mexicans, for the most part?

ABOUT THE RACES,I was taught , THAT THE PRIMARY PURE RACES
are BLACK, WHITE, RED YELLOW, why do i feel i leaving out another one?
AND THE OTHER ARE MIX RACES, SOME HAVE MORE THAN ONE MIX,
WHICH THEY LOST THE ORIGIN OF IT,
it has been part of the story of the BABEL TOWER, ALONG WITH LANGUAGES,
THAT’S WHAT I LEARN,
I HEARD OF MANY OTHER NAMES ATTRIBUTE TO THE MIX RACES,AMONG ALL THE PURE RACES WHO GAVE THOSE OTHER NAMES TO THE MIX ONES, IT WAS MANY YEARS
AND STILL TODAY A CAUSE OF VICIOUS BATTLES,
BETWEEN THE PURE RACES AND THE MIX RACES,
AND MANY DIED JUST FOR BEING CALLED MIX SOMETHING, OR THE OTHER NAMES, THERE IS MANY,IN HISTORY OF THE WORLD,

@Richard Wheeler:

You seem to think racism is worse than willful ignorance. I find them equally distasteful.

Don’t know where you picked up that little nugget. I think some racism is bad, some is good. Played politically, as Dims do, is usually not for a good purpose. I think willful ignorance has both good and bad uses. An example. If your wife is planning a huge surprise for you and you happen to discover it. I think it much better that you remain willfully ignorant of it. If you find out about someone abusing children, I think it would be wrong for you to remain ‘willfully ignorant’ of it. Would both of those situations be distasteful? If a person, say a black person, learns of something great that a black person did and he then says,”it makes me proud to be a black person.” That is clearly a racist statement, do you find it distasteful? So, RW, I’d say that ‘racism’ and ‘willful ignorance’ can be both bad and good. Therefore, it becomes the instrument by which a person displays his racism or willful ignorance. How he uses that instrument determines whether he is racist or not. When racism is used for politics, it is mostly all bad.

i THINK SOME PEOPLE WHERE RAISE TO BE PROUD OF THEIR RACE,
AND IN THE OLD TIMES AND STILL TODAY,SOME FAMILY,
have guided their young of age to marry, one of their race,
they even decide in old country to pick the one to marry their daughters,
and they are very serious about it, they continiue the genes they call pure
intheir offspring,
does it come from animal who only pick their own race? IT COULD BE, NO ONE TOLD THEM BUT THEY FOLLOW A LAW
MISTERIOUS WHICH NO ONE SEE BUT THERE, GUIDING THE ANIMAL, AND COPIED BY HUMAN IN THE OLD TIMES,
AND IT COULD BE A SURVIVAL QU, TO PRESERVE THE HUMAN,BESIDE THE GENES BUT ALSO THE GIFTS
THEY FOUND IN THEIR TREE OF LIFE, AND PREVENT THE ABOMINATION THEY WITNESS FROM ANOTHER RACE,
TO BECOME PART OF THEIR GENETIC TREE,
i THINK , NO ONE CAN BE BLAME AND BE SEEN AS RACIST,
IT’S AN INNER GUT’S FEELING, TO NOT AGREE WITH THE MIX,
AS THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY BLAME FOR WHO IS MIXING WITH OTHER COLORS, BECAUSE OF FREEDOM OF CHOICE NOW, AS TAKEN THE TOP PRIORITY,TO GENETIC PRESERVATION.
IN THESES TIMES IT’S TOO LATE FOR IT,

@Richard Wheeler:

Have you called Obama a racist? Would you agree that by YOUR definition, anyone who does so, is the actual racist? I’m trying to clarify what you actually mean.

RW, you’re struggling. When YOU bring up the subject, as: “Have you called Obama a racist?” then that is NOT ‘me’ calling him a racist. It’s not ‘me’ bringing up the subject of racism. When I’m writing a comment on a thread about Obama and Race Card, it is not ‘me’ that brought up the subject. The only time I say or use racist in referring to Obama is in ‘response to’ him playing the race card. That is, ‘after’ he has brought up the issue. By my definition? If we were not on a thread discussing racism and you then brought up ‘out of the blue’ a question about Obama and racism, then I would think you were the one that had race on your mind and that would make you the racist, if it applies. I don’t think that just ‘mentioning’ the word race, makes someone a racist.
Do I think I’m a racist? No. Do I see racism? Yes.

To RedTeam:
Well you’ve certainly proved you ability to cherry pick a website. Perhaps if you scroll down to the post dated “Nov 13, 2012 GOP Meltdown 2012: Mapping Racist Tweets from the Presidential Election” you’ll see all of the racist tweets that people tweeted during and after Obama’s reelection. To save you the trouble I’ll post a few here in quotes:

Chet Walken
@Walken4GOP
“Why did Obama’s great granddaddy cross the rode? Because my great granddaddy tugged his neckchain in that direction”

and:

Gabe Dutch
@gabedutch
I hope the world does end in Decenber so we won’t have to suffer another four years with that monkey in office”

And the rest of them I can’t even repost here as there is the constant use of the “N-word”. I’m betting a pretty penny that all of those people who posted those vile comments are Republican/Conservatives who didn’t vote for Obama. What you and the other defenders on here are failing to realize is that just because comments like this aren’t made by a politician or an entertainer that makes headlines on the evening news, doesn’t mean that the comments aren’t being made. I read Glenn Beck’s website “The Blaze” and I’ve seen plenty of racist comments in the “Comments Section”. The usually end up getting deleted very quickly by the website, but they still show up.
Liberals tend to be a little more overt with their racism and conservatives generally tend to hide it. But both still exist so let’s dispense with the “Liberal racism is worse than any other” meme. It’s just simply not true.

Ron H.

@Ron H.:

Do you consider Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, Jr., Toure, Melissa Harris Perry, all to be racists? If not, why not? If you do, what race is it that they promote hate against?

@Ron H.:

Well you’ve certainly proved you ability to cherry pick a website. Perhaps if you scroll down to the post dated “Nov 13, 2012 GOP Meltdown 2012: Mapping Racist Tweets from the Presidential Election” you’ll see all of the racist tweets that people tweeted during and after Obama’s reelection. To save you the trouble I’ll post a few here in quotes:

I find it interesting that you are able to read a tweet and determine the party affiliation of the writer.

“Why did Obama’s great granddaddy cross the rode? Because my great granddaddy tugged his neckchain in that direction”

And you’re prepared to label this racist why? Where is race mentioned? What is the race of either of the two Grandaddy’s mentioned. Is Stanley Ann Dunham’s father white? or Black? How do you know? Maybe that’s Obama’s granddaddy they are referring to. I’m just amazed at liberals ability to determine racial intentions because of a tweet.

And the rest of them I can’t even repost here as there is the constant use of the “N-word”

You’re going to have to explain how the N word is racist. Have you ever heard a black rapper do a rap that ‘did not’ have the N word in it? Was it racist when he used it? Is it only racist if the one that says it is white? Is a black person using the “w” word about white people racist? why not?

let’s dispense with the “Liberal racism is worse than any other” meme

Let me tell you why we can’t do that. Because until the Liberal racism goes away, racism won’t go away. The issue would rarely be discussed if the Race Card wasn’t carried by so many liberals.
I’m not in charge of racism anyhow, I suggest you communicate with the Libs about that.

Redteam
the young black who attack the white by making a game they think is funny enough
to make a video of it, i”m talking of tripping and throw down the unexpected person walking,
are unequivocaly racist, AS THOSE WHO ATTACK THE WHITE TO SEEK REVENGE FOR
GEORGE ZIMMERMAN FOUND NOT GUILTY THAT IS RACIST,
AND THE GAMES ARE DEADLY DANGEROUS,
AND WHERE DID THEY LEARN TO BE RACIST? BECAUSE THEY LEARN WITH OLDER RACIST,
THE WHITES DON’T DO THAT,
PROOF IS THE BLACK ARE THE RACIST,TAUGHT BY ELDER RACIST TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT, AGAINST WHITES,
OTHERWISE THERE WOULD BE NO ATTACK,

@Redteam:
You said
” It is very interesting that Ron H. has no problem seeing ‘hidden racism’ amongst conservatives but has a hard time seeing overt racism amongst liberals. Seems he needs an eye exam.”

Wow you have some serious reading comprehension issues. I said above in post#69 “LIBERALS tend to be a little more OVERT with their racism and conservatives generally tend to hide it” So um what were you trying to say again?

@Ron H.: I think RedTeam is trying to pull your chain Ron. Don’t take it so seriously.
It’s part of his schtick. He understands more than he lets on.

@Ron H.:

‘hidden racism’

This is what I have a problem with. If their ‘is’ racism and it’s hidden, just exactly how is it that you know a person is racist? I’m going to say that almost every human has some kind of ‘defect’ racism, envy, jealousy but most do not act on these defects and so no one knows if they actually have them or not, but somehow, you, Ron H, have figured out that if conservatives don’t exhibit their racism, it’s not because they may not be racist, it’s only because it is successfully hidden. I’m gonna then expound on that and suppose that the reason liberals are more overt is because they’re not capable of hiding their defects? So is that a defect of liberals? That they can’t hide their defects if it is racism? hmmm….interesting…..

@Richard Wheeler:

It’s part of his schtick. He understands more than he lets on.

Why thanks Richard, that’s nice for you to say. In Ron’s case, I’m having fun pointing out that he didn’t think out his argument too well before making his charges. For example. Granddaddies might come in more than one color and some white people have had chains around their necks and of course, if the N word is racist and a black person uses the N word, does that make it not be racist?

To Redteam:
“Hidden racism” means not on public display or conveyed in an open manner. I was having a conversation with a friend’s husband (he is white) who owns a small business, at a party one weekend several years ago. He confided in me that he would never hire a black person because he thinks that all black people are lazy. He is a hardcore conservative by the way. I’ve never heard him use racial slurs or even act disrespectful around a black person and yet he secretly thinks ALL BLACKS are lazy. That’s what I mean by hidden racism. If you still don’t understand the term “hidden racism” then I guess you’re out of luck because I’m not going to repeatedly explain a very basic concept over and over again.

Ron H.

Redteam:
I thought out my argument and presented it well actually. The tweet was quite obvious to anyone but you. And perhaps you should take my advice and go ask a black person why it’s racist for a white person to call a black person the N-word but not racist for a black person to call another black person the N-Word. I’m not black so I wouldn’t know why it’s okay.

I hope this was helpful sport.

Ron H.

@Redteam:
You think you are cleverer than you actually are.

You posted:

“My God where do you people come from? You simply posses no logic” (My words)

“Ah, I think we’ve stumbled on your defect. You people? did you say ‘you people’ ? The problem is, I ask you a very simple question that you can’t answer logically and it’s because it was a ‘you people’ that asked the question”.

I should have clarified as I am dealing with reading comprehension challenged person. I should have said, “Where do you nut jobs come from” instead of “you people” My apologies for not being clear.

Ron H.

When society ”lets” some people use racist language but not others it has lost its way.
Back in the 1970’s Elvis Costello used the term, ”white n-word” in the song, Oliver’s Army.
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/79725/
If blacks can use the term, so can whites.
Period.
Recall the twisted ”logic” of Rachel Jeantel?
IF you used the n-word and ended it with an ”a” instead of an ”r” it wasn’t racist, otherwise it was.
Hmmmmm…..
So, basically, national dialect defines ”racism,” for her?
OK, can we all agree the girl is an idiot and that would be true no matter what her color?
Fact is, language is both denotative (descriptive) and connotative (implicit).
We should be free (as long as we don’t shout “FIRE!” in a crowded theater) to use both when needed.
The Left does try to paint us into a corner from which we cannot even make our case.
Don’t fall for that trap.

@Ron H.:

The tweet was quite obvious to anyone but you.

You said it was obvious because the tweeter was white but you didn’t post the picture with your quote that showed he was white.

I should have clarified as I am dealing with reading comprehension challenged person.

I assure you I’m not a reading comprehension challenged person. The problem appears to be that you write an illogical statement and when I ask you about it, you pretend it’s because I don’t understand what you wrote. For example you said:

I was having a conversation with a friend’s husband (he is white) who owns a small business, at a party one weekend several years ago. He confided in me that he would never hire a black person because he thinks that all black people are lazy.

and I asked you:

So that friend that came out of the closet on his racism, is he now no longer a conservative because he’s a racist without it being hidden?

and you didn’t answer. I should also have asked you if his racism was hidden, why did he talk about it. It’s kinda hard to have a hidden defect if you’re gonna tell people about it, isn’t it? So, if he changed from ‘hidden’ to ‘overt’, he must have changed from conservative to liberal, right? And you don’t think that’s logic?

What about this, you said:

And perhaps you should take my advice and go ask a black person why it’s racist for a white person to call a black person the N-word but not racist for a black person to call another black person the N-Word. I’m not black so I wouldn’t know why it’s okay.

Can you tell me if the N word itself is racist, or is it dependent on who uses the word? Why don’t black people use the N word in the general public and seem to reserve it just for music, primarily. If there is a group of 7 blacks and 3 whites and the black persons are throwing the N word around, is that racist or is it only if one of the 3 white persons standing there should use it. If your answer is as I suspect, then I’d have to ‘logically’ conclude it not the white person that is using the N word that is racist, but the person that interprets it as racist, that is the racist.
If you’d spend a little more time applying logic to the questions and answers and not worry about my reading comp, it might make a more pleasant conversation.

@Ron H.:

Most people, white, black, purple, yellow or pink

“you people” do realize that’s a racist statement, right?

You said:

But A WHITE PERSON calling a BLACK PERSON the N-WORD is RACIST.

I wouldn’t agree with that at all. It is only racist to a racist. Any person can use any word that they desire to use, the person hearing the words interprets the word however they want to. An example, you used ‘nut jobs’, probably in such a manner as you think it will insult me. I don’t interpret it that way at all, I think it is an indication that you are frustrated and don’t know any correct way to show your frustration so you resort to your adolescence and start ‘name calling’. Who is belittled in that situation? I’ll leave that for you to ponder.

You said:

Oh wait did I stumble on something? Do you find it okay for a white person to call a black person the N-word?

You need more practice on your Stand up routine.

This is rather interesting, you said to Nanny G

Feel free to call a black person the “N-word” anytime you like. But just don’t be surprised if you get called a racist or get clobbered.

Are you saying that in your opinion if a racist doesn’t like what you say to him, it’s ok for him to clobber you? Would that come under Assault laws?

@retire05: Agree Retire, but did you sense that Ron H seemed to think that it would be ok for a racist, just because he believed you said something that he perceived was racist to clobber the speaker? I kinda sense that he does think that. Some states have laws that permit you to shoot an attacker if you perceive you are in danger of being harmed.

@Richard Wheeler:

Can I assume that before you walk up to that Black man and call him a nigger

Your first assumption should be that I wouldn’t do that. That’s something I wouldn’t even ask someone about doing because I’m not a racist. I wouldn’t care if he were a racist or not.
but, think about this: ” Can I assume that before you walk up to that White man and call him a nigger ” etc, etc, etc,. Wouldn’t that be just as logical?