394 Responses to “Larry Klayman: “Put the kool-aid down….””

  1. 351

    ilovebeeswarzone

    Redteam
    HI,
    even children singning CHRISMAS SONG IS RACIST,
    THERE IS NO OTHER WORDS,
    even they say that it might offend other<
    well how about offending the AMERICANS? those with roots on the ground,
    have been signing for century the CHRISMAS SONG FOR CHRISMAS.
    THEY ARE OFFENDED, and if you hear them say it,
    count yourself lucky to hear just words, you deserve something else
    that would shut your offense for good,
    AND DON'T PUSH YOUR LUCK, THERE IS A LIMIT TO TOLERANCE IN AMERICA,
    WE KNOW YOUR INTENT, AND IT WON'T WORK IN AMERICA,
    TRY IT IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES, JUST DON'T DECAPITATE THE CHRISTIANS THERE,

  2. 352

    Richard Wheeler

    @Redteam: Where have you or o5 or Bees ever called out racist comments made against Obama by F.A. posters? Aqua called out a particularly egregious comment a couple of days ago. Curt had it deleted. It wasn’t the first racist comment deleted by Curt. Chances are, it won’t be the last.
    I’ve been accused of being a race baiter. I say, if you call out a racist, shine a light on his or her bigotry, you ain’t baiting em you’re hookin em. When someone calls out a racist, as Aqua and others have done, it does not make Aqua a racist.
    zealot–excessively zealous, fanatically committed person. I would say this defines you and Bees and 05 in your efforts to degrade the POTUS. You may see it as a badge of honor.

  3. 353

    ilovebeeswarzone

    Richard Wheeler
    UNFORTUNETLY for you, it’all the truth,
    POOR RICHARD.
    so, is there something interesting you want to give your opinion on?

  4. 354

    ilovebeeswarzone

    ON FOX NEWS,
    STRONG SIGNS US ECONOMY BOOMING ON BOATS MANUFACTURE,
    YA SURE, IT SHOW THE PEOPLE want to get out of here,
    and get away from indoctrination of their children,
    and live in a neutral zone, in their boat, in the middle of the
    OCEAN which nobody can claim to own,

  5. 355

    Richard Wheeler

    @ilovebeeswarzone: Interesting? We can talk about boat manufacturing.
    How bout a discussion of the basic tenets of Christianity—Compassion,Love,Generosity,Humility,Forgiveness,Patience. Are these qualities we can all strive for?

  6. 358

    retire05

    @Richard Wheeler:

    :

    Where have you or o5 or Bees ever called out racist comments made against Obama by F.A. posters? Aqua called out a particularly egregious comment a couple of days ago. Curt had it deleted. It wasn’t the first racist comment deleted by Curt. Chances are, it won’t be the last.

    So now Redteam, Bees and I are responsible for calling someone out on a racist comment[s] that they made in spite of the fact that we may not have even seen it [them] due to Curt deleting it [them]?

    Only a progressive zealot could come up with that standard.

  7. 359

    Richard Wheeler

    @retire05: Simple question. Have you ever called out an FA. poster for an obviously racist comment directed at the POTUS? Many were deleted but many more remained. You’re a savvy lady and know this to be true.
    If you have I THANK YOU.
    btw about your assertion on another post. I do not consider all negative comments directed at Obama to be racist.
    Ex. Benghazi—hopefully we’ll know more about the truth, as in the coming days, those who were there will be testifying.

  8. 360

    retire05

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Simple question. Have you ever called out an FA. poster for an obviously racist comment directed at the POTUS?

    I could tell you “yes” but after years of being here, I have no idea what comments were made that you consider “obviously racist” or if I called the person out on the comments. I noticed that you, on another thread, dismissed what could be considered “obviously racist” comments about Ted Cruz as NOT being so.

    Many were deleted but many more remained.

    Give me an example of the remaining comments you think are “obviously racist” and I will critique them.

  9. 361

    Richard Wheeler

    @retire05: You say ” Obviously racist comments about Cruz” Agree that negative and tasteless comments were directed at him. I didn’t see spic or wetback etc.
    On this blog BHO has been called a n—er, every member of the ape family, and a hell of a lot more. I’ve seen outrage from Conservatives like Aqua, Word, John Galt and others.Kudos to them.

  10. 362

    retire05

    @Richard Wheeler:

    You say ” Obviously racist comments about Cruz” Agree that negative and tasteless comments were directed at him. I didn’t see spic or wetback etc.

    So…………unless you see certain pejoratives, no matter the insinuations, you deem comments not to be racist? Why doesn’t that same standard apply to Obama?

    On this blog BHO has been called a n—er, every member of the ape family, and a hell of a lot more.

    Out of line and totally unnecessary. I don’t recall seeing those.

    I’ve seen outrage from Conservatives like Aqua, Word, John Galt and others.Kudos to them

    .

    If the pejoratives you listed were used, again, out of line and unnecessary. As to the conservatism of Aqua, Word and others, who are you to decide they are “conservative”? Or are you like the hooker who teaches a sexual abstinence class?

  11. 363

    Richard Wheeler

    @retire05: What specific “insinuations” made against Cruz were racist?
    Do you dispute that Obama has been called a n—er, and a monkey here at F.A., or are you sticking with you don’t know but it would be ” out of line and unnecessary” UNNECESSARY—-YA THINK??
    Are you saying Word and Aqua are not Conservatives? I must be on the wrong blog.

  12. 364

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    @Redteam: Where have you or o5 or Bees ever called out racist comments made against Obama by F.A. posters?

    What gives you the impression I give a damn about who calls Obama a racist? I don’t play the racist card. People that play the racist card are racist, there is no denying that.

    Aqua called out a particularly egregious comment a couple of days ago. Curt had it deleted.

    I saw the comment and I didn’t agree with the comment. I am not the blog owner, it is the job and duty of the blog owner to delete comments that ‘clearly’ should not be posted. My only obligation is to read or not read comments and comment on the ones that I wish to comment on. I’m not the blog police.

    I say, if you call out a racist, shine a light on his or her bigotry, you ain’t baiting em you’re hookin em. When someone calls out a racist, as Aqua and others have done, it does not make Aqua a racist.

    And I will stick by my statement that most of the persons calling out racists are racist. I didn’t see where Aqua called out a racist, but then I wasn’t ‘looking’ for it either. That comment that you mentioned that was deleted had nothing to do with racism, in my opinion.

    zealot–excessively zealous, fanatically committed person. I would say this defines you and Bees and 05 in your efforts to degrade the POTUS. You may see it as a badge of honor.

    Of course I don’t agree with you, after all you can’t even predict baseball games. but I’m not a ‘zealot’ or ‘fanatic’ about anything. No one has to be concerned about degrading Obama, he doesn’t need any help, he does quite well on his own. I watched a clip of his lying speech yesterday, he stumbled, mumbled and lied his way all the way through. He should at least practice a TOTUS speech so he can at least get the words correct. I’m amazed they put in so many ‘you knows’ in his teleprompter.
    I understand that secular progressives think their mission justifies their actions, but I have never thought that planned lying was the way to go.

  13. 365

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    @ilovebeeswarzone: Interesting? We can talk about boat manufacturing.
    How bout a discussion of the basic tenets of Christianity Compassion,Love,Generosity,Humility,Forgiveness,Patience. Are these qualities we can all strive for?

    And yet, you don’t seem to care that the president has none of these qualities.

  14. 367

    Redteam

    @retire05:362 RW said:

    On this blog BHO has been called a n—er, every member of the ape family, and a hell of a lot more.

    Retire said:

    Out of line and totally unnecessary. I don’t recall seeing those.

    Put me down in the ‘I haven’t seen that either’ category. But I don’t read ‘every’ comment on all threads.

    I think it is very interesting how quickly RW plasters a ‘label’ on someone he disagrees with but sees no bigotry or racism in his doing so, but anyone else doing it is only because of bigotry or racism. Anyone see a double standard anywhere?

  15. 368

    Richard Wheeler

    @Redteam: Now you say “most persons” who call out racists are in fact racists. You’re gonna give Aqua a pass. How bout when Aqua said he considered use of Redskins by Washington NFL team to be racist. Does he get a pass on that assertion.
    Racists are racists. No place for them in 21st century America—they come from the right and the left. No acceptance. No shelter.Don’t blame the messenger.
    Who did I “plaster a label on” Be specific. You don’t think you are EXCESSIVELY zealous in your effort to degrade the POTUS? Fine Does this assertion have ANYTHING to do with bigotry or racism on my part.
    Please explain your line of thought?

  16. 369

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Do you dispute that Obama has been called a n—er, and a monkey here at F.A., or are you sticking with you don’t know but it would be ” out of line and unnecessary” UNNECESSARY—-YA THINK??

    give me a comment number of one of those, I don’t recall seeing any of those.

    Are you saying Word and Aqua are not Conservatives? I must be on the wrong blog.

    I wouldn’t label either of those in any way, why do you? I haven’t read enough of Aqua to have a strong feeling either way but Word ‘seems’ to be kinda in the middle from what I’ve read, but I haven’t read a ‘whole lot’ of his writings either.

  17. 370

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Who did I “plaster a label on” Be specific.

    Seriously? Well there’s this:

    zealot–excessively zealous, fanatically committed person. I would say this defines you and Bees and 05

    Didn’t you also call someone ‘compassionate conseratives’, just above?

    How bout when Aqua said he considered use of Redskins by Washington NFL team to be racist. Does he get a pass on that assertion.

    Didn’t I just say I don’t play the race card? It’s not my place to call out racists, they usually do that very well themselves. I do not retreat from my statement that ‘racists play the race card’ I don’t care what anyone says about calling the Redskin’s racist. If persons were not thinking racist thoughts, then they wouldn’t be thinking of labeling things as racist.

  18. 371

    retire05

    @Richard Wheeler:

    What specific “insinuations” made against Cruz were racist?

    Well, let’s just say that I am applying the Obama rule: anything negative said about Ted Cruz, a man of color, will, and shall, be considered racist.

    Do you dispute that Obama has been called a n—er, and a monkey here at F.A., or are you sticking with you don’t know

    I cannot testify to what I have not seen. I’m sure you would rely on hearsay. I don’t.

    but it would be ” out of line and unnecessary” UNNECESSARY—-YA THINK??

    Yes, UNNECESSARY and OUT OF LINE. If that is not good enough for you, too damn bad.

    Are you saying Word and Aqua are not Conservatives?

    Give me your definition of “conservatives”.

    I must be on the wrong blog.

    We finally agree on something.

  19. 372

    ilovebeeswarzone

    Richard Wheeler
    EVERYBODY has an opinion, AND WE RESPECT THEIR OPINION,
    this is not a place to step on everyone which you don”t like the opinion< no place to judge other<
    if you don"t want to be judge,
    THIS FLOPPING ACES IS to express your view on the subject,
    it"s not to attack the views of other,

  20. 374

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Racists are racists…….. No acceptance. No shelter.Don’t blame the messenger.

    If the messenger is running around shouting ‘racist’ it is because of the racist thoughts in their mind, it has nothing to do with anyone EXCEPT the messenger,their state of mind.

    Who did I “plaster a label on” Be specific. You don’t think you are EXCESSIVELY zealous in your effort to degrade the POTUS?

    As I said, not at all. POTUS does not need help in his efforts to degrade himself and his job.

  21. 375

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    It doesn’t matter who the POTUS is when it comes to being a Christian and living a life imbued with Christian tenets. Obama,Bush etc. do not affect anyone’s personal faith and values.

    Do you believe a regime’ that pushes an Anti-Christian agenda does not effect Christian lives? How about not allowing Catholic Mass for the military during the ‘shutdown’? How about an injunction to prevent a public prayer at a High school football game? How about an injunction to prevent singing Christmas carols at school. I can believe that these things would not effect the lives of secular progressives, but being a secular progressive and being a Christian are not compatible, so of course it would not be a problem.

  22. 376

    Richard Wheeler

    @Redteam: Cmon RT If someone is yelling at and calling out a rapist in his neighborhood does that make him a rapist. Does he have the mind set of a rapist?
    Rapists should be called out. Racists should be called out.Abusers of children and animals should be called out.
    Anything less is Cowardice—-don’t blame the messenger.

    Singing Christmas Carols or reciting public prayer has nothing to do with living a life of compassion,humility ,patience,love and the tenets and virtues of Christianity.

    Semper Fi

  23. 377

    ilovebeeswarzone

    one cannot be responsible if he say the black person across is talking with the white woman,
    insulted for having been label black person, THEN that is not the one ‘s problem,
    it”s the black person’s problem for being dishonest and playing the race card on the one,
    that game was played many times by OBAMA AT THE START OF HIS PRESIDENCY,
    anyone refering to black was called a racist, that was the begining of the divide on the people,
    THEN they continue dividing this AMERICA with the poor against the wealthy,
    THE MUSLIM NOT TO BE OFFENDED AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS, AND the ATHEIST joined in not to be left out.
    they chose the MUSLIMS AS BROTHER in war against the CHRISTIANS,
    now AMERICA is divided all around,
    A BIG MESS
    less than half sold to OBAMA, the other plus half to the people who love AMERICA with all their soul,

  24. 378

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Racists should be called out.Abusers of children and animals should be called out.

    You sure are/or seem to be obsessed with this racism business. What has caused this defect within you? I’m not even sure what you think a racist is and don’t know why you have a ‘need’ to think about it. I never think about racism because I don’t practice it and don’t think others should either, but this is America and everyone, as far as I am aware, have freedom of speech. It is beyond my comprehension as to why anyone would think the name Washington Redskins is racist. Are you personally offended if someone calls you a ‘white man’? (assuming you are Caucasian) If you are offended? Why? Is it because you believe they are trying to label you as racist? That being ‘white’ must mean you think you are ‘better’ or ‘worse’ than someone that is not white. Why would an American Indian feel that being referred to by the color of their skin is a ‘degrading’ thing. I think every person should be proud of themselves and their heritage and not feel inferior to anyone just because of the color of their skin. But as I say, since I’m not racist, I don’t run around ‘thinking’ of it and ‘looking’ for it.

  25. 379

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Cmon RT If someone is yelling at and calling out a rapist in his neighborhood does that make him a rapist. Does he have the mind set of a rapist?

    It just occurred to me, are you insinuating that calling a person a redskin(if that person is an American Indian) is equivalent to being a rapist? or a bank robber?

  26. 380

    Richard Wheeler

    @Redteam: I think where we differ is you don’t believe racism exists in this great Country that you and I have defended. Or maybe you think it exists but it’s none of your business since you are not a racist. First Amendment rights you say.
    Obviously I don’t see it that way. We’ll agree to disagree on that.

  27. 382

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    I think where we differ is you don’t believe racism exists in this great Country

    I don’t believe I either said that or insinuated that. All this business about racism IS THE ACTIVITIES OF RACISTS. Racism is a business, ask Jesse Jackson or Al (Twana Brawley) Sharpton what their business is.

  28. 383

    Redteam

    @Richard Wheeler:

    First Amendment rights you say.
    Obviously I don’t see it that way.

    Not sure what your point is. I would think you do believe in First Amendment rights for ‘everyone’ . If you want to get mileage or extra traction by ‘calling’ out racists, then by all means, exercise your first amendments rights, but remember those you are ‘calling’ out have those same rights to call you whatever they think you are. Do you actually put racists and rapists in the same category?

  29. 387

    retire05

    @Redteam:

    I think it is funny how the race baiters tell anyone who isn’t black how only blacks can use the N-word, and that we don’t understand that it is only objectionable when used by someone else. Well, if that is the litmus test, then what right does some white guy have to decide that the term “Redskin” is racist when they wouldn’t knew what the Dawes Rolls are if place in front of them. Never mind that the Western Channel continues to run movies that portray Native Americans as nothing more than blood thirty savages killing the white interlopers settlers.

    But hey, the Native Americans can’t afford K Street.

  30. 390

    retire05

    @Redteam:

    of course, by Native Americans you mean those born in the US.

    Nah, just pandering to the politically correct adherents among us that think the original Americans should be called “Native” Americans. :)

  31. 391

    Tom

    @retire05: @Redteam

    Nah, just pandering to the politically correct adherents among us that think the original Americans should be called “Native” Americans. :)

    Wow, you guys are certainly cracking each other up. Why am I in the dark? What’s so funny about calling Native Americans “Native Americans”?

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