Had Obama been President on 9-11-01 [Reader Post]

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Here’s how it would have been explained:

UN Ambassador Susan Rice: 9-11 Attack Was Spontaneous

Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the UN, said the attacks that killed 3000 Americans last Tuesday appears to be spontaneous demonstrations which were taken over by extremists.

“We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned,” Rice said on “Face the Nation” Sunday. “I think it’s clear there were extremist elements that joined and escalated the violence. Whether they were al Qaeda affiliates, whether they were US-based extremists or al Qaeda itself, I think is one of the things we’ll have to determine.”

But Yassir Arafat disagreed. He has said it was a well planned attack.

“It was planned, definitely, it was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago, and they were planning this criminal act since their arrival,” Arafat said Sunday.

Rice said it’s too early to say if security should have been tighter at the U.S. airports in Boston and Washington.

Obama Press Secretary Jay Carney said the attacks were due to a movie:

“The protests we’re seeing around the region are in reaction to this movie. They are not directly in reaction to any policy of the United States or the government of the United States or the people of the United States.”

That movie?

Executive Decision

Summary:

In this action thriller, a group of Islamic terrorists, led by Nagi Hassan (David Suchet), highjacks a 747 jetliner with 400 passengers aboard, but Lt. Col. Austin Travis (Steven Seagal), a United States intelligence agent, is convinced that this isn’t an ordinary case of air piracy. His suspicions are soon confirmed; Hassan’s men have obtained a large cache of stolen Soviet nerve gas, and they are using the 747 to smuggle the deadly gas into the United States, where they intend to use it to wipe out Washington D.C. and possibly the entire East Coast. As the jet approaches the U. S., engineer Dennis Cahill (Oliver Platt) designs a plan in which a military plane will be able to transfer U.S. soldiers onto the 747 and regain control of the plane and its deadly cargo. However, when Travis dies in the course of the mission, intelligence agent Dr. David Grant (Kurt Russell) is forced to take his place alongside explosives expert Cappy (Joe Morton), commando Rat (John Leguizamo), and stewardess-turned-anti-terrorist Jean (Halle Berry).

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was furious at the movie

US secretary of state Hillary Clinton on Thursday condemned an anti-Islam film which has sparked the 9-11 airliner hijacking “protests”, stressing that the US government had nothing to do with it.

“To us, to me, personally, this video is disgusting and reprehensible. It appears to have a deeply cynical purpose, to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage,” Clinton said. “But as I said yesterday, there is no justification, none at all, for responding to this video with violence.” “Protests” erupted at several airports by demonstrators who deem the movie Executive Decision made in the United States as offensive to Islam because it named Muslims as terrorists.

President Obama assured Islamic nations that he would soon embark on an apology tour.

And Obama promised that Muslims would never again be the villains in US movies.

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Pretty funny.
How would Obama, et al, hide all of the communications between folks on some of those planes and their families?
Barbara Olsen comes to mind.
As does Todd Beamer.
There were plenty of others, too.
Would there be a cover-up?

Hillary has been making a boob of herself and letting her libido out of the closet. You wonder why she is “so close” to Huma. There is no fool like an old fool.

But wait a minute Doc, you need to make a sequel with Obama appearing on the View and talking about his eye candy appeal and meeting with Beyonce and JayZ, before he can quit polishing his knob long enough to think of something to do.

Told you all a long time ago, hillary is a slut and the wipe is a terrorsit-how simple does it get. Oh! The money that the idiot got is Sept is from Medicare…look at your blogs. the idiot has been siphoning of medicare funds to support his re-election.

two special op killed in AFGHANISTAN,
I told them to shoot first, they don’t believe me.
am I typing for noting,

Hey, 9-11 was simply spontaneous combustion.

The copier on the 12 th floor was working overtime, the paper jammed in the tray and because the copier was hot, it blew up, therefore causing the wiring on the copier to send out an alarm that re- routed the wiring in the aircraft, forcing the airliners to change direction and fly into the twin towers.

It’s all the copier’s fault. There are no bad guys or terroristsin La La Land.

Absolutely disgusting. I can see this going down exactly as you wrote it – Great post, Dr. John

The Obama crowd has just about wagged the tail right off the dog. It’s been a treat watching Maher,Matthews ,Moore and Huffigton realize Obama is an Albatross around their collective necks. Axelrod whining about O’s debate failings as if he didn’t see it coming. 30 days to go and no telling who will be the next tier one liberal to unass the Obama magical mystery Tour.

Ultra-conservatives favorite type of political story—fiction. Remember Conservapedia, which wrote the humans walked with dinosaurs.

@Liberal1 (Objectivity): Ultra-conservatives Liberals favorite type of political story—fiction…..There, fixed it for ya clowny…

@Liberal1 (Objectivity), #8:

I have little difficulty believing that some conservatives really did walk with the dinosaurs.

Liberal1[objectivity]
we can presume the CONSERVATIVES MIGHT
HAVE WALK WITH THE DINOSAURS,
because we see how their intelligence HAS evolved from way further back and still to today superior to the DEMOCRATS, who seem to lack the tolerance, the lack of vision of the consequence of their decisions,
which take centuries to acquire, the DEMOCRATS lack of knowing between haranguing and debating,
along with other lacks, like making the difference between reality and fiction. that’s why they tend to fail so much and so often. which result in lost of credibility from the citizens

greg, give us a call when you evolve enough to walk upright. I won’t be holding my breath for that to happen. Heh.
Let us not forget that “patriotic” letter obama wrote after 9/11 urging us to understand the suffering of the terrorists and how it motivated them

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/reprise-obamas-empathy-for-911-terrorists

Hard Right
how come this man was elected in 2008,
it surpass the mind, to try to understand,
thank you for the link,
I never read that before,
bye

If Obama would have been president on 9/11, he would have been in on the planning.

Smorgasbord
hi, yes you are most likely right.
stay around, we need your smart input.
bye

@ilovebeeswarzone:

Just one of many reason I voted against him. Had the media done it’s job, the current president would be McCain.

Hard Right
yes for sure, that is another proof of the superiority of the CONSERVATIVES,
you could see further than what the MEDIAS ARE TELLING YOU,
and figure between the lies and the consequences
BYE

@ilovebeeswarzone: #15
I will be around a lot longer than Obama will.

Smorgasbord
yes, and with your wisdom, you could be in his place and do a better job,
do you have a birth certificate? well OBAMA DID NOT NEED IT,
BUT HE HAD THE MUSLIM MONEY, AND THE MEDIA’S LIES ,
who need it,
bye

@ilovebeeswarzone: #19
It wouldn’t surprise me if a MAJOR EMERGENCY comes up and Obama has to cancel the next two debates. As long as TOTUS can make it, they don’t need the Reader-N-Chief. They just need a camera on the TOTUS so we can read it ourselves.

Smorgasbord
yes, you know, it cross my mind too,
he could use any excuse, he has the big role, and those who advise him
don’t have any morality,
and the problem with ROMNEY is, too much of morality,
that is the big gap in between them
bye

Smorgasbord
there are some infected by that meningite stain from the shot they received,
there is some in your corner, be carefull don’t get any shot if you have a pain in the back,
bye

@ilovebeeswarzone: #22
If I have a pain in my back for a few days, I go to a chyropractor, and they take care of it. Usually in one treatment. The only pain I have right now will go away after the election.

Smorgasbord
yes, those CHYROPRACTOR are wizards they do miracle,,
my friend who own a farm with about 100 COWS,
she work hard with her husband who have a second job ,now that the young are working up in the
NORTHWEST TERRITORY, any way she get those pains in the back and she go to her chiropractor for about 10 session ,
of one a week,and she is as good as new after,
it cost her 50 dollars per session
and after she go and work on the bails of hays, and with the cows, and what ever hard work,
until the next back pain, about 8 months,
bye

@ilovebeeswarzone: #24
I had a chyropractor put my fallen arch back in place. They have a purpose.

Smorgasbord
that is something I never heard, but a good chiropractor is yes a wizard,
imagine they can tell the muscles and nerves and bones underneath the skin,
and only by manipulation they can change the wrong one to where it suppose to be.
that is a real achievement, is in it. and make the pain disappear by that manipulation,

Smorgasbord
well the debate is done now,
and BIDEN WAS THE VICE BULLY, and PAUL RYAN WAS THE EDUCATED CLASSY
AND WELL MANNERED PERSON FITTING IN THE POSITION OF VICE PRESIDENT LIKE A GLOVE,
what’s your take?

@ilovebeeswarzone: #27
Biden was Biden. That’s all that needs yo be said.

Smorgasbord
yes with the smurf and the rude cutting RYAN,
he is good for the union’s speech because he act like them, and he lied
trying to make RYAN look like A Liar

some of you are retarded iof you make under 200k why would you vote for a republican who constantly has their hands in your pockets to pay the debt their rich buddies accumulate? hmmmm, think back, i bought my first truck in 2005 was paying 1.52 per gal for diesel fuel, in late 2007 i was paying 4.03 per gal, wait who was the sitting president at the time, thats right, i dont even have to say his name and another fact that douchebag appointed one of his buddies at the world bank to write him loans to spend on whatever and blinding the american public as he did are some of you this stupid! As for 9/11,if your president at that time do something stupid and you will be a one term president! bunch of frigg’n republican hypocrites i see here and other places writing dumb crap!!!!

Romeny has morals? lol wow thats a first form someone who made his money by putting people out of work.. someone of you ever see that movie with charlie sheen and mike douglas, well there you go.. romney is a walking puke!

@doc: So exactly how many people did Romney put out of work?

doc
you get your information from the wrong side
there you go, blaming the wrong party,
I remind you that the DEMS are in power, and have destroy a big part of AMERICA,
BECAUSE OF THEIR GREED TO BECOME RICH ON YOUR BACK,
proof of why they should be out in NOVEMBER 6TH,
IN YOUR SITUATION , YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO FIND A JOB WHEN MITT ROMNEY GET TO SIT IN THE WHITE HOUSE, HE’S THE ONE WHO WILL MAKE THE COMPANIES BACK TO CREATE THE JOBS,
BECAUSE THEY TRUST HIM, he won’t screw them, like this government did

@drjohn: #32
I prefer to know how many jobs were saved by Romney’s company going into failing companies and rescuing them. They couldn’t save all of them, but let’s give them credit for the ones they did save. How many jobs have the liberals saved?

@doc: Can you say ate up with the dumbass? If you can go look in a mirror and you can see what it looks like. What do you think is going to happen to a flat economy when it gets hit by tax hikes? That 4.00 gas is going to look good. You don’t grow the economy by penalizing the producers and job creators.Judging from your poor grasp of economics and english you were probably raised by yellow dog democrats that threw that same drivel out all the time and then complained about the tax rate they paid. How much more tax are you willing to pay to keep Obama and Biden in business. America doesn’t guarantee equal results just equal opportunity.You don’t like your results? Get off your dead ass and make it happen. Don’t bitch about how anyone else made good on their opportunities. You’ve got a choice between a man that knows how to make money and one that only knows how to take it. Damn,that doesn’t take rocket science to figure out.

@brian winkler: @ winkler! do yourself a favor, never talk or reply to anything i say again!!! your a piece of shit!!! i come from a working class family and have done ok, your issues are just your own and not mine!!!

@Smorgasbord:

I prefer to know how many jobs were saved by Romney’s company going into failing companies and rescuing them.

I plan on getting to that. Firstly I would like “doc” to show us all how knowledgeable he is, especially given his manners.

@doc: hmmmm, think back, i bought my first truck in 2005 was paying 1.52 per gal for diesel fuel, in late 2007 i was paying 4.03 per gal, wait who was the sitting president at the time, thats right, i dont even have to say his name

And now, if you’re in the Washington DC area, you’re paying $4.24 to $4.55. In Oregon, it’s about the same. California? $4.50 to $5.11. Same for the Big Apple. (You can check out gas prices by area here)

Wait? Who’s the sitting President? That’s right… don’t even have to say his name.

See how that works, doc?

Now, if instead of babbling nonsense, you’d actually like to learn why diesel, in particular had an even higher run up during the 2002 to 2008 era, you could find that answer easily on the Dept of Energy site.

On-highway diesel fuel prices have been higher than regular gasoline prices almost continuously since September 2004, a break from the historical pattern of diesel fuel prices usually being lower than gasoline prices except in cold winters when demand for heating oil pushed diesel fuel prices higher. The main reasons why diesel fuel prices have been higher than gasoline prices in recent years are:

*High worldwide demand for diesel fuel and other distillate fuel oils, especially in Europe, China, India, and the United States, and a tight global refining capacity available to meet demand during the period of high economic growth from 2002 to mid-2008.

*The transition to less polluting, lower-sulfur diesel fuels in the United States affected diesel fuel production and distribution costs.

*The Federal excise tax for on-highway diesel fuel of 24.4 cents/gallon is 6 cents per gallon higher the gasoline tax.

Humm… high demand, low supply, shortage of refining capabilities, high taxes, and mandated diesel fuel mixtures. Ponder that…. and when you’re done, perhaps you’ll figure out why building more refineries, tapping into domestic oil potential and increasing supply in the global market would help bring prices down. Flood the market with any type of product, and the price drops. Basic economics.

DOC
tell me, are you the same doc, I was exchanging polite words with
on the other POST?
why I ask is because you are showing a very violent side of you,
very different as the other POST.

@MataHarley:
by the way with your research pal this all came after when class 8 trucks we required that in 2007 to be retro fitted with new epa pollution regulating mufflers and so on. Also that change in low sulfur diesel fuel, by law all i did was change my muffler! This fuel didnot require me to make any changes in engine requirements all it was and still is last by product in production process!!! your just reading from that website, not reality. why did prices also go up not alone due to fuel changes, thank bush!! try again…. The war your buddy bush started and other things he did, money needed to roll in to pay for his personal wartime accolades! even with tax changes you dont raise the price of fuel over 2.51 cents per gallon just becasue of fuel with less sulfur!!! and by the way taxs only went up cents not dollars dope!!! virginia where i live also raised taxs only by cents not dollars, try again!!! lol i love uninformed people like you. been in this business over 11 years.. do you know anything of fuel surcharge, operating costs, nope you just look up something and say this is why this happned, frigg’n grrrr people such as yourself!!!

When you’ve figured out that things aren’t so simply explained by just blaming Bush for diesel prices, here’s something else for you to ponder, doc.

In August 2008, when oil prices were approaching $120 per barrel, diesel was ranging from $3.89 to $4.21. Today, oil prices per barrel are bouncing between $88 and $92, yet you’re paying anywhere from $4.24 to over $5, depending on where you are for diesel.

Do you know why that is? Dazzle us with your brilliance.

And, FYI, in 2003, oil price per barrel was around $30. In 2005, they were about $50 per barrel.

@doc, getting lectured about being informed by someone who hasn’t mastered command of simple punctuation is quite amusing. Because there are many influences to price at the pump… not the least of which includes supply of crude, political stability in the Middle East, refining capability, high or low demand, mandated fuel mixtures – all of which affects a oil price per bbl and the final price at the pump… your naively simple “it’s Bush’s fault” indicate that your level of understanding of the global oil market is pretty low.

Ergo, one way to give you at least a base understanding about diesel, which has had the largest price increase of all fuels, is to direct you to a simple explanation at the DOE. But it seems even that one went over your head.

It’s interesting you say you don’t argue with “bottom dwellers”… yet what is apparent is that you don’t have the knowledge to effectively argue anything with credibility.

Your vast vocabulary of guttural expressions and insults are, however, quite impressive. Unfortunately, I find cyber conversation with mental amoebae entertaining for only a short time.

@MataHarley: ypou know what cunt! i wrote something passive and yet you insult me as well so go fuck yourself live with this message!!! there you go you been dazzled douchebag!!!!

@MataHarley: He wanted his last comment deleted because of the language, as he should have, but is running from the debate…says he won’t comment here anymore. Guess he just can’t debate facts.

awesome Curt! delete me then!!!! have at it…

@Curt: delete me mouth!!! fuck you all.

Guess he’s back and just as retarded as we all thought. You can’t debate facts so you insult. You’re wish is my command you coward. Buh bye.

brian winkler
I find you very tolerant as always,
doc has no excuse and no right to insult anyone here,
he must be a OBAMA follower and mad as hell for the shrinking OBAMA POPULARITY,
bye

@Curt…. oh my. And here we could have learned sooooo much from this genius. /sarc LOL

Well, I was going to link my two posts, Exploiting Obama’s Achilles Heel, and the one on the evidence of financial terrorism in 2008,… but I suspect it was above his paygrade anyway.

@ Bees, He is a poster child for many Southern Democrats that don’t see the Democrat Party as it exists today. He probably doesn’t support their platform.Hell,he probably couldn’t tell you what is on it. But he was raised on “Republicans are for the rich”, even though Democrats are the party that lives off taxation and government growth. The facts presented by the posters here illustrated just how untenable his tilted world view is. When someone owns a business that operates on as slim a margin as OTR trucking,you would think that they would at least have a minimum grasp of what needs to happen to grow the economy and increase the need for the services he provides. Just who does he think is raising fuel mileage mandates on new production trucks?Who does he think is trying to hobble fossil fuel energy production and is setting up higher fuel prices? The sad thing is that there are millions of “Docs” out there and facts are lost on them because they KNOW better and never bother to actually look past their prejudice.