Four Marines died yesterday in Afghanistan when the Taliban laid a trap:

Four U.S. Marines died Tuesday when they walked into a well-laid ambush by insurgents in Afghanistan’s eastern Kunar province. Seven Afghan troops and an interpreter for the Marine commander also died in the ambush and the subsequent battle, which lasted seven hours.

Three American service members and 14 Afghan security force members were wounded.

It was the largest number of American military trainers to die in a single incident since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion.

The battle took place around the remote hamlet of Gangigal, in a valley about six miles from the Pakistani border, after local elders invited the U.S. and Afghan forces for a meeting.

American officers said there was no doubt that they’d walked into a trap, as the insurgents were dug in at the village, and had preset their weapons and their fields of fire.

It was a trap alright….but one they could of extradited themselves out of if not for the rules of engagement laid out by Obama’s General, General Stanley McChrystal:

Airstrikes by coalition forces in Afghanistan have dropped dramatically in the three months Gen. Stanley McChrystal has led the war effort there, reflecting his new emphasis on avoiding civilian casualties and protecting the population.

NATO fixed-wing aircraft dropped 1,211 bombs and other munitions during the past three months — the peak of the fighting season — compared with 2,366 during the same period last year, according to military statistics. The nearly 50% decline in airstrikes comes with an influx of more than 20,000 U.S. troops this year and an increase in insurgent attacks.

The shift is the result of McChrystal’s new directives, said Air Force Col. Mark Waite, an official at the air operations center in southwest Asia. Ground troops are less inclined to call for bombing or strafing runs, though they often have an aircraft conduct a “show of force,” a flyby to scare off insurgents, or use planes for surveillance, Waite said.

The Marines who were killed were not the ones less inclined to call for a bombing run, in fact they were depending on it to get them out of the trap….and none came:

We walked into a trap, a killing zone of relentless gunfire and rocket barrages from Afghan insurgents hidden in the mountainsides and in a fortress-like village where women and children were replenishing their ammunition.

“We will do to you what we did to the Russians,” the insurgent’s leader boasted over the radio, referring to the failure of Soviet troops to capture Ganjgal during the 1979-89 Soviet occupation.

Dashing from boulder to boulder, diving into trenches and ducking behind stone walls as the insurgents maneuvered to outflank us, we waited more than an hour for U.S. helicopters to arrive, despite earlier assurances that air cover would be five minutes away.

U.S. commanders, citing new rules to avoid civilian casualties, rejected repeated calls to unleash artillery rounds at attackers dug into the slopes and tree lines — despite being told repeatedly that they weren’t near the village.

“We are pinned down. We are running low on ammo. We have no air. We’ve lost today,” Marine Maj. Kevin Williams, 37, said through his translator to his Afghan counterpart, responding to the latter’s repeated demands for helicopters.

While the enemy was directly responsible for their deaths, those rules of engagement, and those leaders who refused to send help also have blood on their hands.

The Marines were cut down as they sought cover in a trench at the base of the village’s first layer cake-style stone house. Much of their ammunition was gone. One Marine was bending over a second, tending his wounds, when both were killed, said Marine Cpl. Dakota Meyer, 21, of Greensburg, Ky., who retrieved their bodies.

Herschal Smith:

The new ROE should have been dealt with as a classified memorandum of encouragement and understanding to consider holistic consequences of actions rather than a change to formal rules by which our Marines and Soldiers are prosecuted by courts. Yet the damage has been and continues to be done by poor decisions at the highest levels of leadership.

Damn the ROE.

Herschal also takes issue with the leaders using the Anbar tactics in a completely different theater. Take for example the mission these Marines were on. To go talk to village leaders in an attempt to gain an alliance. But without the necessary force to back them up if it goes bad….and it did:

This was my fear – that counterinsurgency tactics advocated in FM 3-24 would become so religiously ingrained into the thinking of the armed forces that they would believe that it applies in any situation and without the necessary force projection to back up the nice intent.

Carrots and stick, folks. All carrots and no sticks makes for brave warriors who perish on the field of battle because the local fighters have little to fear – not because of our own warriors, but because of the lack of resourcing and tactics being implemented.

Things are going to turn real bad in Afghanistan because of the poor decisions being made by Obama, his Generals, and NATO. And my fear is that once enough of our bravest have died he will cut and run and leave that country to our enemy instead of doing what is necessary to win as Bush did in Iraq.

UPDATE

The calls for help was witnessed by a reporter:

A McClatchy newspapers’ journalist who witnessed the battle reported that a team of Marine trainers made repeated appeals for air and artillery support after being pinned down by insurgents in the village of Ganjgal in eastern Kunar province.

Press Secretary Geoff Morrell says it was the distance the helicopters had to fly that was responsible for the late help but the reporter who was with the troops disputes this as well as the soldiers on the ground.

According to the McClatchy report by Jonathan Landay, the US advisors assisting Afghan forces had been assured before the operation that “air cover would be five minutes away.”

UPDATE

Check this out

Lt. Fabayo and several other soldiers later said they’d seen women and children in the village shuttling ammunition to fighters positioned in windows and roofs. Across the valley and from their ridgeline outposts, the Afghans and Americans fired back.

Read the whole account in the link I just gave, written by the reporter who witnessed the whole thing. In the reporters own words:

I wasn’t as terrified as I was angry: angry at the absence of air support, angry that there was no artillery fire

It’s a must read.

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16 comments so far

bill-tb
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Yep, our troops are driving around waving guns, running over bombs.

September 9th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Scrapiron
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A once proud party called democrats is now a party of cowards who cut and run at a cost of millions of lives. They are awash in blood and none of them care. I expected this from President O’Dumbo, an enemy of America. but thought a few members of congress would stand up. Guess that’s what I get for thinking. As a vet of Vietnam I know how it feels to watch democrats make the lives of 50,000 true American hero’s worthless. I still pray I outlive the traitor Hanoi John Kerry so I can piss on his grave.

September 9th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Hard Right
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Typical dems. More concerned about looking bad to their countryclub buddies than keeping American soldiers alive.
Those soldiers died just so the left can pat themselves on the back over no “civilians” being killed by the big bully USA.

September 9th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
joesixpack31
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Based on the above eyewitness account of events, what I feared with the election of Obamanista appears to be unfolding. The objective of the new administration is to forge retreat/exit from the conflict…and victory to the jihadists…by ramping up/maximizing US casualties thereby gaining support at home from the sizable left wing “retard” element. And this placates the lunatic left which has been on his ass to surrender now. The thing they love most next to “balls out” retreat is high US military casualties. The EFFING islamo-marxist cowards hiding in the whitehouse and on capitol hill are no differant than the jihadists that hide behind women and children or in mosques. There is NO DOUBT the village elders and the jihadists worked in concert to set up this “bushwack”. Based on the way the air support fell apart, it would appear that US commanders responsible for providing air cover were accomplices in the “bushwacking”. Looks like the same trick Clinton pulled on the US rangers in Mogadishu (sp??). In short, this took coordination between the jihadists, the village elders, Obama’s military commanders and of most importance…restructuring the rules of engagement by Obama to enable this trap to work. Obama and his marxist lawyers are not totally stupid. This had to have been intentionally rigged. The big question for the near term is: How many more similar ambushes will our troops be ORDERED into before either they mutiny, or the “chicken shit” chain of command mutinies or both??

September 9th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Buffalobob
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What we are seeing is Vet Nam ll. When you restrict the troops from using all deadly force in a firefight you will repeat Mogadishu. When you have a community organizer and his leftest Chicago hacks directing a military operation you are doomed to failure. Our troops will suffer and again be taunted by the same radicals (only now they are grey bearded activists and University professors) who will again spit on them like they did when they returned from Vet Nam. You cannot fight a war without civilian casualties. We must either accept that fact or pull all of our troops.

September 9th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
tfhr
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If we’re going to withhold close air support, helicopter support, and/or artillery when it is needed then we will kill morale just as fast as we’ll be killing our own troops. I pray that this does not repeat itself and that these glaring flaws in the ROE are corrected immediately.

September 9th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
tfhr
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So now that I’ve finished reading the McClatchy article, I see we did get some white phosphorous called in to cover the withdrawal. Start the clock for the first complaints of “chemical warfare”.

September 9th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
kathie
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How dare they not protect American lives….it is nothing more then a PR stunt. Bring our guys home. Did you see the pictures of the Iranian munitions they have found? Some packaged to look like American ones. Get bin Laden by bombing the place to smithereens. They had the chance to turn him over, and they didn’t. So they get what they get.

September 9th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
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Is this on purpose????..costing American troop lives…to alter American opinion and push to withdraw troops as was requested all along by leftists?

Barry continued military presence/Sec of Defense… but neutered the military efforts to get what he wanted….if you think this is just my opinion…you are very wrong..I live in NC and I can speak up from what is being volleyed about by military personnel who cannot speak up.

This is becoming similar to Gulf War, VietNam, Korea…Lefties want familiar political named examples?

If this Barry War continues, bring back the draft and put some of the government elitists’ family members in — I bet we would have artlllary back-up again, at immediate request. Fight the war or tell us what the game plan is (you kept demanding from Bush) why not, Barry?????

September 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
ThomNJ
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Damn……..I’d send the artillery rounds in anyway. They could courts martial me later.

September 10th, 2009 at 9:46 am
joesixpack31
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I am unable to comprehend a Marine Corp artillary commander or a helicoptor commander, hearing a call for support from a pinned down force and responding in the negative with a dissertation on Obama’s ROE. You’re right ThomNJ. They should have responded IMMEDIATELY and dropped a few artillary rounds on McChrystal’s headquarters as well. These “EFFING” kiss asses in the chain of command need to learn their #1 priority is the support of the troops on the ground, NOT kissing the ass of some islamo-marxist usurper of the presidency who is not even able to supply a bonifide birth certificate. How long are our military commanders going to “GO ALONG” to “GET ALONG” sacrificing the lives of our young people under their command to promote the policies of this espionage agent in the whitehouse???

September 10th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Ira
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Obama=Lnydon JohnsonII, two incompetents micro managing a war, Obama wants to loose to humble this country that he hates so much. It is time for a coup.

September 26th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
joesixpack31
 13Reply to this comment  

DITTO’S IRA.

September 26th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
imtired
 14Reply to this comment  

Of course this is intentional.The more of our children they let die over there will be less that can come home to protect us.And we will need that protection here at home soon me thinks……

October 22nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Jonny
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UNTHINKABLE!

November 19th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

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