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Conservatives have been in a majority for a couple of decades now. Conservatives now outnumber moderates and liberals.
But this model of throwing everyone into one of these three categories doesn’t accurately reflect the nation’s changing ideological landscape.
For example, it’s one thing for Americans to describe themselves as “conservative” in a general sense, but when i comes to particulars the landscape changes dramatically: most Americans support universal health care, disagree with Republican foreign policy, believe global warming is real, and don’t want to see Roe v. Wade overturned.
Saying one is conservative has been in vogue, is still in vogue, and will be for quite some time in the US– but the meaning of conservativism is changing right in the US; the best illustration of that change is the ideological conservative division in the GOP, Rush conservatives verses moderate rhino conservatives.
liam09
14 years ago
If conservatives were in vogue, MTV and Hollywood would be poster children. What is in vogue, is liberalism and brainwashism served up hot by our media. What actually works is conservatism. Anyone with a functioning house understands this (thus the statistics): you don’t take out credit cards to pay off debt, you don’t hand money to the government just because you think they will do a better job spending it then you, and you don’t abort your kids because then, you don’t have kids! Like communism, liberalism looks better on paper. Like communism, liberalism will destroy our country.
Until recently, I would have said that I was totally against any form of “universal health care.”
That was until my job was outsourced to India. Luckily, cobra is covering us for now. I say this because my wife and I are both diabetic (most people are shocked when they find out that I am because I am no where near overweight and in decent shape) and my youngest child has cerebral palsy.
I was informed by a few insurance agents that we would effectively NOT be able to get insurance due to our family issues. The insurance would be so high that I would not be able to afford anything else based on the quotes.
The insurance system as it stands is broken. Government health care sure as heck is NOT the answer thought. I have seen how the Gov’t screws things up 😉
liam09: More to the point, morals as a whole have gone out the window with liberalism.
The government is always increasing spending. Social Security is broke. The more money they get, the more they spend and we see the results.
liberalism tells me that it is ok to force the wants of a few down the throats of the many. That it is OK to protect one group to the determent of another. That being hypocritical is a way of life
California – a blue state by a large chunk is actually stopping new taxes? WOW! And here I was thinking they were ALL FOR socialism 😉
“But there was a joke that I told, and I thought I was telling it about the older daughter being at Yankee Stadium. And it was kind of a coarse joke. There’s no getting around it, but I never thought it was anybody other than the older daughter…”
“I had no idea that anybody was at the ball game except the Governor and I was told at the time she was there with Rudy Giuliani…”
So … which is it? Did he think the older daughter was there or no one else?
Sounds like he can’t get it straight.
Seeing sponsors leave is what I think prompted management to tell him to apologize.
ditto
14 years ago
@Herman
Nonsense. your argument is misleading and you give nothing to support it accept generalities.
“..most Americans support universal health care, disagree with Republican foreign policy, believe global warming is real, and don’t want to see Roe v. Wade overturned.”
You fail to qualify your “most Americans” and by misleading inference seem to indicate that in general “conservatives” support this things. They don’t.
I THINK SARAH PALIN IS ONE OF THE REASONS.
http://sigmundcarlandalfred.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/palin-goes-huntin
@Tom N: I agree.
And I’ll embed the graphic from your link:
Conservatives have been in a majority for a couple of decades now. Conservatives now outnumber moderates and liberals.
But this model of throwing everyone into one of these three categories doesn’t accurately reflect the nation’s changing ideological landscape.
For example, it’s one thing for Americans to describe themselves as “conservative” in a general sense, but when i comes to particulars the landscape changes dramatically: most Americans support universal health care, disagree with Republican foreign policy, believe global warming is real, and don’t want to see Roe v. Wade overturned.
Saying one is conservative has been in vogue, is still in vogue, and will be for quite some time in the US– but the meaning of conservativism is changing right in the US; the best illustration of that change is the ideological conservative division in the GOP, Rush conservatives verses moderate rhino conservatives.
If conservatives were in vogue, MTV and Hollywood would be poster children. What is in vogue, is liberalism and brainwashism served up hot by our media. What actually works is conservatism. Anyone with a functioning house understands this (thus the statistics): you don’t take out credit cards to pay off debt, you don’t hand money to the government just because you think they will do a better job spending it then you, and you don’t abort your kids because then, you don’t have kids! Like communism, liberalism looks better on paper. Like communism, liberalism will destroy our country.
Until recently, I would have said that I was totally against any form of “universal health care.”
That was until my job was outsourced to India. Luckily, cobra is covering us for now. I say this because my wife and I are both diabetic (most people are shocked when they find out that I am because I am no where near overweight and in decent shape) and my youngest child has cerebral palsy.
I was informed by a few insurance agents that we would effectively NOT be able to get insurance due to our family issues. The insurance would be so high that I would not be able to afford anything else based on the quotes.
The insurance system as it stands is broken. Government health care sure as heck is NOT the answer thought. I have seen how the Gov’t screws things up 😉
liam09: More to the point, morals as a whole have gone out the window with liberalism.
The government is always increasing spending. Social Security is broke. The more money they get, the more they spend and we see the results.
liberalism tells me that it is ok to force the wants of a few down the throats of the many. That it is OK to protect one group to the determent of another. That being hypocritical is a way of life
California – a blue state by a large chunk is actually stopping new taxes? WOW! And here I was thinking they were ALL FOR socialism 😉
“But there was a joke that I told, and I thought I was telling it about the older daughter being at Yankee Stadium. And it was kind of a coarse joke. There’s no getting around it, but I never thought it was anybody other than the older daughter…”
“I had no idea that anybody was at the ball game except the Governor and I was told at the time she was there with Rudy Giuliani…”
So … which is it? Did he think the older daughter was there or no one else?
Sounds like he can’t get it straight.
Seeing sponsors leave is what I think prompted management to tell him to apologize.
@Herman
Nonsense. your argument is misleading and you give nothing to support it accept generalities.
“..most Americans support universal health care, disagree with Republican foreign policy, believe global warming is real, and don’t want to see Roe v. Wade overturned.”
You fail to qualify your “most Americans” and by misleading inference seem to indicate that in general “conservatives” support this things. They don’t.