The White House said Monday that President Obama’s loud silence during last week’s standoff with Somali pirates who hijacked a U.S. cargo ship and held the captain hostage was necessary in such a tense situation.
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said the president, who came under fire over the weekend for staying mum on the drama, did not want to make the situation “even potentially more dangerous by putting the president out there for the captives to see.”
C’mon, the pirates were 150′ away from one of the most sophisticated naval ships ever built, and we’re supposed to believe they had an uninterruptable live- video link to CNN…one that couldn’t be jammed by a BILLION dollar warship literally a stone’s throw away?
The reality is that Obama
1) was clueless
2) was indecisive
3) was too busy picking out a puppy (decisions are tough things)
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I suspect that obama is worse than Clinton in the sense that Bill was always looking to the polls to see how “the people” felt; while O wants to see how a situation actually plays out – then he can take credit or lay blame as the results may dictate.
The president didn’t want to put the president out there? Clumsy, clumsy excuse, who’s really calling the shots, Axelrod? Rahmbo? Kind of shows us that the White House was more concerned about “the president” than Captain Phillips.
Obama had an opportunity after that first press question to simply state that he was monitoring the situation and that’s all he could say. But, he dodged it with the housing remark because he’s dependant on TOTUS who failed to tell him he should appear to be concerned. In the mean time his political hacks were figuring what the spin was going to be.
So Scott,
You claim Obama was clueless which you failed to prove..
Also that it he was indecisive which you failed to prove.
Also that he was busy picking out a puppy which if you had read any accounts of how they got the puppy you know that’s BS too..
Do you have any proof of anything??
It sure doesn’t look like it.
@Real American Patriot:
Let me make sure I understand this……
Sky55110/CRAP the purveyor of false and unsupportable positions is asking someone else for proof of their arguments?
Now, that right there folks is funny!
Heh.
RAP, where was the clue/decisive action taken on part of President Obama? Was he on the phone monitoring the situation like Jimmy Carter did? Did he give specific instructions or just vote PRESENT and go w the default? The fact is he did nothing. If he knew what to do, I’m sure he’d have ordered it, but he gave no orders, and let the default ROE stand; ie he left a capital decision of massive regional importance up to 4 US Navy SEALs to decide. His input was nada. This is a man who-as you pointed out-couldn’t even decide on a what dog to get after promising his daughters for TWO and a half YEARS!
He used GUNS to solve a problem! AAAAAAAAA How un Left -wing Democratic of him!
The question is If HE can why can’t WE?????
Funny, some people can never be satisfied. If he came out and made lots of noise at the beginning, the same people complaining now would be complaining that he was putting in danger the captain. The situation played out as best as it could (well, perfection would be if all 4 pirates were fish food) and the President made the right decisions and our military performed flawlessly.
You could say that:
The reality is that Obama
1) was clueless
2) was indecisive
3) was too busy picking out a puppy (decisions are tough things)
However in my opinion it would be better to peer over what might be the biased of ones political views and ask oneself what the end result was. What happened in the end was that all the hostages are now safe and free, and 3 of the enemy captors are now dead. So despite what Obama did or did not say, it is due to this end result that I would argue that the White House did a good job on this one. Feel free to disagree.
RAG, praising the President for his LACK of involvement, resolve, leadership, and decisive action is a real stretch. If that’s the barometer for good leadership, then why have a President at all?
Proving my point further, his lack of strong action (or even strong commentary) has led to 3 more ships being attacked since his remarks. I above most people believe that words DO mean something, but I bow to the Hillary Clinton position that if they’re not backed up by deeds, then they’re useless; once you say you’re going to do something (like saying you’re not going to stand for piracy), and then you don’t do it…then your words have meant nothing. All they did was prove a level of either cowardice or incompetence that results in no action/no threat/no deterrence. It’s like when a pacifist threatens to shoot you with a shotgun if you do XYZ. How threatening is that?
Obama did nothing (the man couldn’t even practice his remarks before reading them on a teleprompter). His words meant nothing. His deeds did nothing. The SEALs saved the day, and I will not sit idly by while Obama gets credit for their decision-making in a time when the best he could come up with was, ‘take action if the guy being shot at is in imminent danger’
Blast, obama is being held to the same standard you held W to.
Deal with it.
Woof, Scott. You do put me in the awkward position of defending Obama in this.
First off, INRE his silence. I think that’s extremely wise. This was a stealth operation and Obama, facing pushy reporters and running off at the mouth in front of cameras, could deter an operation that needed it’s details kept secret. While there was no live broadcast feed to the lifeboat, they were in constant touch with their landlubber relatives and comrades who did, indeed, have access to that live feed. That is a non-issue.
I feel very strongly about both the media and elected officials… CIC or not… discussing military operations in press conferences. The element of surprise is gone when a few words slip out here and there. And even Gibbs said (a few paragraphs after your pulled excerpted quotes above):
We *are* talking about a guy who focuses unduly on his own image, and close to dysfunctional without TOTUS. Good move to keep him out of the limelight and avoid potential errors while fielding questions.
Secondly, I’m not sure about the timing on this. I know the Seal team parachuted into the ocean and boarded the Bainbridge within the day before the snipers took out the remaining three left on the lifeboat. Is part of the official silence a way to buy time in the negotiation period to pull in additional special teams? The four plus Capt. Phillips were set adrift last Wednesday, I believe. Seal teams parachuted in late Saturday night. Could this timeline have been speeded up? Dunno.
All that said, I partially agree that Obama is not the hero here, but our US military acting under standard ROEs. I also point out to you that Obama could have ordered our military to stand down … but he didn’t. Unlike Carter, he did not attempt to micromanage the situation. So I give Obama high marks for not interfering with the normal course of action, and allowing our military to perform.
Something for all to consider here… you are being short sighted. I’ve tried to explain that this single event has elevated the Somali piracy issue to a new level, and this is only the beginning. Many more bad guys are going to jump on the pirates’ bandwagon and support their “cause” openly…. it has already begun.
Obama may enjoy basking in honors and glory from the O’faithful that he earned by stepping aside, and letting the US military do their job. But he is also going to absorb the blame for the escalation that is now inevitable. If you poo pooh the praise and credit they bestow the CIC today, then you will need to restrain yourself when the praise changes to accusations that Obama has created another possible war front.
I fail to see the comparison to this act and my criticism of Pres Bush about the Iraq war. The standard to have some snipers shoot pirates vs. the planning for an invasion etc, well, they are completely different.
I agree with what Mata said above. Obama could have not done anything, yet he gave authorization for deadly force to be used. It changes things… but Scott, I don’t buy the retaliation or they “hijacked 3 more” since routine. They are hijacking ships because they can… and the rate in which the attacks have been taking place, it does not seem out of the ordinary at this point.
There have been 13 documented attacks during this month alone, and 6 before the Mersk Alabama was attacked. Now Obama is somehow to blame for 3 more hijackings since he spoke… nuts.
Yes blast, you fail to see. That is the problem.
Mata, I do give TOTUS credit for letting the Navy do it’s job.
The MSM fawning as if he fired the shots himself is sickening tho,
especially in light of how they still refuse to give Bush credit for
making the right calls in Iraq.
Almost, but not quite, blast. Obama did not “give authorization for deadly force to be used.” That authorization was always in place. What Obama *did* do was not countermand standard ROE and ask the military to stand down off authorized force. He gave them the blessings to follow procedure.
And yup, Hard Right… always hard to absorb the absurd gush over Obama. And most especially when it’s built up to heights of deity. But as I said…. let them lavish him with undue credit. Because as the situation elevates, American and French hostages are shot on the spot, and jihad movements rush to the side of the pirates, and the US military starts rooting out the nests on Somali land (even with the blessings of the UNSC), those that praise Obama today will be whining and stamping their feet.
I put this in the category of the foreign policy decisions Obama has made that I agree with. A checkmark in the “good” column.
What was the ROE prior to President Obama not having to authorize use of force? Many of the accounts have indicated the President twice authorized force.
blast, you have a two part question there.
First, INRE ROE. I only know what I’ve read in several places, i.e. Blackfive.
More on the twice authorized force comes from Donald Sensing at his shared blog, Sense of Events. The URL for Sensing’s name is his very impressive bio.
What Sensing had pointed out in his earlier post was:
This should address both your questions, yes?
UPDATE from Gates on two authorizations, and why…
Gates wanted to clear that up since he didn’t want the media portraying they had to ask twice for authorization because of inaction or indecision.
As far as why to ask for authority that is already possessed, they determined that this was an unusual situation that could cause retalitory action… so everyone was keen to have the chain of command’s blessings.
@blast,
I’m not getting the point of your statement ” the rate in which the attacks have been taking place, it does not seem out of the ordinary at this point.”
The “ordinary” should not be acceptable to anyone (except, perhaps, the pirates.) These Somalian pirates have been hijacking ships for the past 17 or so years (since they lost their central government.) Diplomacy (nearly two decades’ worth) has failed, and (right or wrong) the world looks to the U.S. for leadership; but how can Obama really understand the problem since he didn’t avail himself of the conferences over the issue when he was a Senator?
Jeff Verive
The spam filter ate my posting – I hope it gets indigestion!
As a side note: the fuss over the dog is ridiculous. The last two administrations bought new dogs, but there wasn’t nearly this much attention from the media or the public. Just for kicks, I did a search on the terms “Clinton’s new dog”, “Bush’s new dog”, and ” “Obama’s new dog”. The numbers were astounding (I used AltaVisa; Google or other search engine should give similar results):
Bush: 16 hits
Clinton: 400 hits
Obama: 57,000 hits
We’re obsessed with our cult of personality!
Jeff V