This makes me ill….. scum. Pure scum.

Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich filed suit against Murtha, claiming that the veteran lawmaker damaged his reputation when he told the press that Wuterich’s squad in 2005 killed civilians in cold blood in Haditha, Iraq.

Wuterich argued that Murtha made false and defamatory statements to the press about Wuterich’s and his comrades’ role in the civilian deaths.

Murtha, a former Marine, used his congressional immunity as his defense, arguing that he made those statements to the press in his official capacity as a member of Congress. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia on Tuesday ruled that Wuterich can’t sue Murtha.

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Hard Right
 1Reply to this comment  

What BS!!!

April 14th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
JohnMcClane
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From the decision:
http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/2009/april/document.pdf

The law is clear that limited
discovery is permitted in a Westfall Act case only when a
plaintiff “allege[s] sufficient facts that, taken as true, would
establish that the defendant[’s] actions exceeded the scope of
[his] employment.” Stokes v. Cross, 327 F.3d 1210, 1215 (D.C.
Cir. 2003). Because Wuterich has failed to meet even this
minimal pleading burden, we vacate the District Court’s order
denying certification pending discovery and remand the case
with instructions to the District Court to substitute the United
States as the defendant in place of Congressman Murtha.
Because the United States has not waived its sovereign
immunity for Wuterich’s tort claims, the District Court will be
required to dismiss his complaint for lack of subject matter
jurisdiction.

also:

The analysis of Wuterich’s allegations is controlled by this
court’s decision in Council on American Islamic Relations v.
Ballenger, 444 F.3d 659 (D.C. Cir. 2006). In that case, the
Council on American-Islamic Relations sued Congressman Cass
Ballenger for defamation and slander after Congressman
Ballenger remarked that the organization was the “fund-raising
arm for Hezbollah” during a conversation with a reporter about
his separation from his wife. Id. at 662. The Government
certified that Congressman Ballenger was acting within the
scope of his employment.

and this:

Consequently, where a plaintiff fails to allege sufficient
facts to rebut the certification, the United States must be
substituted as the defendant because the federal employee is
absolutely immune from suit.
The parties agree that if the
certification is not successfully rebutted in this case, Wuterich’s
action must be dismissed because his claims fall within the
FTCA’s exception for claims “arising out of . . . libel [or]
slander.”

and this:

Also instructive on this point is the court’s recent Westfall
Act decision in Wilson v. Libby, 535 F.3d 697 (D.C. Cir. 2008).
In Wilson, the court upheld the District Court’s ruling that
defendant Bush Administration officials had acted within the
scope of their employment when they disclosed to the media the
previously covert agent status of Valerie Plame Wilson, whose
husband Joseph C. Wilson IV had been an outspoken critic of
the administration’s approach to intelligence issues. Case: 07-5379 Document: 01215614973 Page: 17

And:

Congressman Murtha’s alleged attempts to discredit
Defense Secretary Rumsfeld’s management of the war in Iraq,
no less than the comments of the Bush Administration officials
in the Wilson case, were directly tied to his congressional
political agenda and thus cannot support a claim that the
Congressman acted outside the scope of his employment.

lastly:

Another example is seen in the en banc court’s decision in
In re Cheney, 406 F.3d 723 (D.C. Cir. 2005). In re Cheney
involved suits filed by two nonprofit organizations against the
Vice President and other government officials, alleging that the
National Energy Policy Development Group was subject to the
Federal Advisory Committee Act’s (“FACA”) disclosure
requirements. Id. at 725-27. The District Court had largely
rejected the Government’s motion to dismiss pending discovery
that this court described as “overly broad” and “unbounded in
scope.” Id. at 727 (quoting Cheney, 542 U.S. at 386, 388). The
en banc court granted a writ of mandamus and ordered the case
dismissed, because the plaintiffs had failed to state a claim for
relief under FACA. Id. at 728-31. Importantly, In re Cheney
unequivocally rejected the plaintiffs’ pleas for discovery in order
to find facts that would lend credence to their complaint.

So, the Murtha case was dismissed on the same grounds as the dismissal of the complaint against the Bush admin with respect to the Plame/Wilson affair, the energy lawsuit against VP Cheney, and the Council on American Islamic Relations charges of slander for being described as the “fund-raising
arm for Hezbollah”.

April 14th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
JohnMcClane
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Quotes from the decision:
http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/2009/april/document.pdf

“When a federal
employee is sued for wrongful or negligent conduct, the Act
empowers the Attorney General to certify that the employee
‘was acting within the scope of his office or employment at the
time of the incident out of which the claim arose.’

On May 7, 2007, the Attorney General’s designee invoked
the Westfall Act and certified that “United States Congressman
John Murtha was acting within the scope of his employment as
an employee of the United States at the time of the alleged
incidents.” Westfall Certification (May 7, 2007), reprinted in
Joint Appendix (“J.A.”) 138. Upon filing the certification, the
United States and Congressman Murtha moved to substitute the
United States as the defendant

The analysis of Wuterich’s allegations is controlled by this
court’s decision in Council on American Islamic Relations v.
Ballenger, 444 F.3d 659 (D.C. Cir. 2006). In that case, the
Council on American-Islamic Relations sued Congressman Cass
Ballenger for defamation and slander after Congressman
Ballenger remarked that the organization was the “fund-raising
arm for Hezbollah” during a conversation with a reporter about
his separation from his wife. Id. at 662. The Government
certified that Congressman Ballenger was acting within the
scope of his employment.

Indeed, where comments made in the course of a conversation
on as private a matter as marital status are within the scope of a
congressman’s official duties, it is hard to fathom how
Congressman Murtha’s discussion of grave public policy
concerns relating to the war in Iraq could ever fall outside the
scope of his employment. See Williams v. United States, 71
F.3d 502, 507 (5th Cir. 1995) (holding that a congressman’s
allegedly defamatory remarks during an interview about an
appropriations bill were within the scope of his employment and
noting that “[b]esides participating in debates and voting on the
Congressional floor, a primary obligation of a Member of
Congress in a representative democracy is to serve and respond
to his or her constituents”).

April 14th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Tom Jones
 4Reply to this comment  

Murtha’s such an asshole.

April 14th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
 5Reply to this comment  

Try again when he is no longer in congress.
And also when the dems are no longer in control.

April 15th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Craig Mc
 6Reply to this comment  

We have similar laws in Australia, but protected comments must be made on the floor of parliament itself. If a politician went on the steps out front and said it to the press it’s no longer protected, but then we have stricter (many say too strict) libel laws than the USA.

April 15th, 2009 at 12:19 am
FedUp
 7Reply to this comment  

Murtha is the poster child POS!!! We had a good contender for his seat, but the dems pulled some of their tricks and William Russelllost the seat. I hope that the people in Johnstown wake up for the next elections and show Murtha just what they think of him!

April 15th, 2009 at 5:09 am
Steve Rowland
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Guess we confer ‘diplomatic’ immunity on so-called congressmen as soon as they leave the protection of the Capitol.

Murtha hates the war in Iraq and has done all he can to subvert it.

April 15th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Glenn Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET
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Punitive and general articles that may cover murtha. He is retired, isn’t he? And retirees are subject to the UCMJ. Convening Authority would be the Commandant of The Marine Corps.

917. ARTICLE 117. PROVOKING SPEECHES OR GESTURES
Any person subject to this chapter who uses provoking or reproachful words or gestures towards any other person subject to this chapter shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
934. ARTICLE 134. GENERAL ARTICLE
Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.

Let’s see a left wing dirtbag lawyer in this world.
Speaking as a member of the congress in his legislative duties, indeed.
I need to dig out the Manual For Courts Martial of The United States.
Any others out there think the same?

April 15th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Steve Rowland
 10Reply to this comment  

Glenn:

I’m was not a member of the armed services (deaf) but what you outline sounds like a start.

April 15th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Jarhead68
 11Reply to this comment  

Well, perhaps a punch in the face will do Murtha some good. Not that I’m trying to incite anyone, you know. Far be it from me to promote violence against a traitor.

April 15th, 2009 at 8:13 am
JohnMcClane
 12Reply to this comment  

Let’s see a left wing dirtbag lawyer in this world.
Speaking as a member of the congress in his legislative duties, indeed.
I need to dig out the Manual For Courts Martial of The United States.

Yes, but I bet Congress has written the rules such that Congress trumps military.

April 15th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Patvann
 13Reply to this comment  

There are very few “former Marines” in the world. At least the article got that right.

April 15th, 2009 at 9:24 am
 14Reply to this comment  

This complaint may have made the Marines feel better but it was doomed from the start. There are very few slander/libel complaints against Congresscritters that would make it past the speech and debate clause of the US Constitution. Since most of us are constitutionalists here, while we find the acts of Murtha to be deplorable and reprehensible, the decision is proper and correct based upon the law and the constitution. As for waiting for Murtha to leave office, that wouldn’t solve the problem (even assuming he had left office within the Statute of Limitations period which probably has expired by now) because the acts were done while he was a Representative and his status at the time of the occurrence not the time of the litigation is the only relevant factor for immunity.

April 15th, 2009 at 9:33 am
 15Reply to this comment  

Thanks for the excerpts, JohnMcClane. Caught the breaking news last night, but had no heart to start digging in the later hours of the eve for the specifics of the decision.

Their grounds and use of precedents from the Bush admin/Plame, Cheney/energy and CAIR/arm of Hezbollah make me wonder about the arguments used by Wuterich’s attorney. In each of the cited cases, I can see a link to the realm of employment.

Murtha, however, flat out usurped the judicial system and pronounced the Haditha soldiers guilty without a trial. I fail to see how that is related to Congressional employment in anyway. But then, all depends upon what Wuterich’s attorney used as the argument.

I should very much like to see discipline via the UCMJ, followed rapidly by Murtha being booted unceremoniously out of office in the next election. Whether that happens remains to be seen.

April 15th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Richard Romano
 16Reply to this comment  

This is unbelievable — there are two sets of laws, one for us, one for the pols.

April 15th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
JohnMcClane
 17Reply to this comment  

MataHarley:

Murtha, however, flat out usurped the judicial system and pronounced the Haditha soldiers guilty without a trial.

I remember something like that from the Nixon era, either having to do with William Calley or Charles Manson. I think Nixon said Manson was guilty and Manson held the paper with the bold headline up in front of the jury.

RichardRomano

This is unbelievable — there are two sets of laws, one for us, one for the pols.

Actually, it is believable.
Go back to the Bible. There are many stories of the rulers who believed they were better than the common man.

And to use a line from the kid’s movie Aladdin:
Have you heard of the golden rule- he who has the gold, rules.

April 15th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Hard Right
 18Reply to this comment  

The question is whether or not it was truly part of his congressional duties. So far the legal system has said yes.
Hopefully there will be other challenges as it sure didn’t seem to be part of his “duty”.

April 15th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

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