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Victoria
15 years ago
your beloved Brzezinski is a vile liar!
“Large Russian contingents quickly swept into South Ossetia and then into Georgia, sending tanks to Gori and bombing Gori and the capital, Tbilisi.”
If he is so ignorant about the fact that Tbilisi and Gori was not bombed at all, I can make only one conclusion: he gets his facts from CNN, where I’ve heard a lot of nonsense! If he lies about this, undoubtedly he lies about the rest.
Victoria
15 years ago
and if he says about the false Russian propoganda, I can say without any hesitation that the US has it’s own inveracious propoganda!
Caucaus
15 years ago
Mike;
You must not take a stand on a subject you know very little about. First of all there is more to this defensive of Russia than you are educated about. I am from this area
The Georgian army teamed with Israeli military advisors assisted in invadsion of S. Ossetian on 8/8/08. S. Ossetian has been a seperatist/independent area with it’s OWN government and capital/president. The 98% of the citizens of S. Ossetian are Russian.
The Georgian Army and the Israeli advisors bombed, raped, burned the capital of S. Ossetian
performing ethinic cleansing on Russian citizens. In addition to 1500 civlians that were butchered by the Georgian Army, they killed 18 Russian Peace Keepers.
Yes, Russia retaliated into the interior of Georgia. Yes, Georgian troops were more concerned about the pipeline being bombed. Russia cannot and will not give in to terrorist actions of invasion. When the Checyna Moslems took over a Russian School 4 years ago, the Russians piped in Gas where the terrorists were. They killed them all but unfortunately a lot of innocent people were killed. But as a result, Russia doesn’t have the issues many other countries have with terrorism.
The president of Georgia (not a stranger to violence, remember Stalin was Georgian) has long disputed with this independent section and wants this territory within the controls of Georgia. Crying to the USA (because of our OIL investment and to Europe that it is now supplying)
The other important fact here is OIL, OIL OIL< Caspian Oil with investments from the USA, BP OIL, Turkey, Azerbaijan and Israel was formed to drill for oil in Azerbaijan running a pipeline through Georgia to Turkey’s ports to supply Western Europe. 4 weeks ago Kurds sabotaged part of the pipeline.
Traditional the majority of fuel and energy had been supplied to Europe by Russia. This deal cut Russia and Iran off.
Georgia the second country to adopt Christianity prostituted themselves off to Moslem countries and America/UK for pipeline money. They have long had strains with the Russians because of their inability to be loyal to any one country. Even a fellow Christian Nation.
Georgia needed to be brought under control, if you knew how much of your tax dollars went to support this pipeline and how much went into military supplies for Georgia you would cringe at this back room deals fellow Texans and oil people like Bush and Hunt have made.
Lastly, President Bush has no room to tell anyone or any country to back off. Look at the slaughter we have done to the innocent people of Iraq? Over 150,000 civlians dead, 4,500+ American soliders dead and about 600,000 people injured. Not to mention the 3 million refugee Iraqis Christian ARmenians, Assyrians, Moslems, Yedzjis, Kurds that have had to flee their country because of our stupidilty and hunger for OIL< OIL< OIL.
And YOU THOUGHT NONE OF THIS HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH OIL?????read sources below http://debka.com/article.php?aid=1358
Hebrew Israeli paper and their involvement in the ethnic cleansing and pipeline http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080808/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_georgia_middleman
US Economic Stake in Georgia
So I’ve heard. Actually, I prefer “pond scum,” myself. I mean, he is an Obama adviser and an ex-Clintonista (co-author of the loss of Iran to the Islamists).
I have no idea how Brzezinski has become such a neocon of late, though I would suspect it’s a cynical attempt at making Obama look tough, which neither one is, at least not ever in the right ways in the past. I don’t trust him, or his opinions, and even if I hear him say things I might otherwise agree with, he would not be one of the “authorities” I would rely on to make my case. It has to do with his lack of credibility, and so not wanting to give credence to his other crackpot notions.
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2008/02/just-4-years.html “The Carter Administration weakened the Shah and opened the door for his overthrow. With the Shah overthrown, the Carter Administration favored the Ayatollah Khomeni under Brzezinski’s green belt policy (Brez is back as Obama’s foreign policy advisor) and his failure to react usefully to the hostage crisis solidified Khomeni’s power. The Iranian threat today and the rise of Shia terrorism can all be traced back to the Carter Administration.
Brzezinski and Carter also began backing and funding Islamic terrorists in Pakistan via ISI. Indirectly this led to the growth of Islamic terrorism operating out of Pakistan, that continues to be a second home for Al Queda.”
http://www.mmisi.org/ir/21_02/eidelberg.pdf “That is why Marxism … represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man’s universal vision. Marxism is simultaneoulsy a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief:…” — Professor Paul Eidelberg quoting Brzezinski
Yonason: Next week when Zbig praises Obama Victoria will be hailing him as a hero.
As for Caucaus, I’d say he flings that “ignorant” label around with the same zeal and towards the same purpose as Victoria.
Both of them willing dupes for the Soviets Russians.
As for Brzezinski, I don’t hold him in the disregard that you do, or that the left does when it’s convenient. I don’t agree with him when he’s bashing Bush. He does that to sell books and try and remain relevant as turned 80 years old in March. But, I learned first hand that he understands the issues of Eastern Europe very clearly and as someone born in Poland he has a strong attachment to their sad history.
And it’s that experience we are focusing on today with the resurgence of an aggresive imperialist Russia threatening it’s neighbors.
Both Caucaus and Victoria would like to take our eye off that problem, but it’s one that’s not going away and has only gotten worse the longer we have avoided dealing with it.
P.S. I’m surprised that neither Victoria nor Caucaus went after the Missile Defense agreement with Poland. Along with controlling energy supplies to Western Europe, preventing U.S. missile defense in Europe is their next objective.
William C.
15 years ago
I see the Pravda disinformazia team and its amen-corner are out in force.
Denials of the smashing of Gori are especially stupid now that the press and NGO’s have got in there and reported on- the smashing of Gori.
Russia has been preparing this invasion for months: there’s nothing spontaneous about it. Georgia took the bait, true- but it *was* bait: the Ossetian separatist’s shelling of Georgian towns, cynically designed by the Kremlin as a pretext for the conquest they have been setting up since April.
Meanwhile, Russian claims of ‘genocide’ and ‘ethnic cleansing’ in S Ossetia have been completely debunked- but the Ossetian militias moving in the wake of the Russian coumns are most assuredly engaged in scorched earth and ethnic cleansing against Georgians.
The *one* area where the Russian tale has any force lies in the comparison with Kosovo. They’re right. The EU and US were fools (and it was obvious at the time) to recognize Kosovas sovereignty.
yonason
15 years ago
Mike’sAmerica
My feelings for Brzezinski are mostly based on his blatant anti-Semitism, …and a close second is his support for Islam and love of Communism (see quote from Prof., Eidelberg, above). His “expertise” is so compromised by his biases that I don’t feel comfortable using him as a reference when that could imply that I might agree with him on his other really really bad ideas (that’s why I don’t use Bush’s statements; or, if I do, not without adding a cautionary, “BUT only in this case, and not necessarily for the same reasons…”
If a company has an employee who regularly starts fires by trowing lit matches in trash cans, endangering the company and all it’s employees, you don’t give him a reward just because he happened to put one of those fires out once.
____________________________________________ “Yonason: Next week when Zbig praises Obama Victoria will be hailing him as a hero.” — Mike’s America
A perfect example what why I won’t be quoting Z.B. this week, when I’ll only have to be trashing him next.
It’s like that nut Barry Chamish who may actually be accidentally right about 1 or 2 things, but is wrong on everything else. I refuse to use him as support for anything, because it poisons the case.
yonason
15 years ago
That’s odd – Is my response to William C. in the Spam bin? (In short, I agreed).
I found Zbig to be a neocon before being a neocon was cool. Now that’s it not cool to be a neocon anymore, he’s morphed to something else.
I never found him to be anti-semitic and we spent hours discussing the Middle East peace process.
And as for communism, I couldn’t disagree more. He profoundly understood the problem, even as the rest of Columbia University was caught up in Gorbachev worship.
I knew all I had to do to get an “A” for the day in doctoral level seminar on National Security (ten grad students locked in an windowlesss oak paneled room with Zbig for an hour a week) was to relate how the Soviet problem and issues of Poland were not going to go away no matter what new face was in the Kremlin.
yonason
15 years ago
Fascinating, Mike!
(note that I reserve the right to retain my negative impressions of him until I see the evidence for myself, but I certainly can’t accuse you of not having what to rely on.) Anyway, so perhaps with the caveat that he’s a reliable expert on Russia, I might be able to buy it (with money back guarantee?), especially if you are selling.
Thanks
UPDATE:“Obama has received generous support from billionaire George Soros. In recent years, Soros has devoted himself to replacing politicians who support fighting the forces of global terror and supporting Israel with politicians who support appeasing jihadists and dumping Israel.
As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama opposed defining Iran’s Revolutionary Guards as a terrorist group. He calls for the US to withdraw from Iraq – only to return if genocide is being carried out [Like that’s not one of the major things we were fighting against for the last few years?] and then, only as part of an international force [Riiight, like that’s going to happen!]. He also supports opening negotiations with Iran even if the Iranians continue to enrich uranium. In forming these views, he is assisted by his foreign policy team which includes ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI, Mark Brzezinski, Anthony Lake, Susan Rice and Robert Malley.
All of these people are known either for their anti-Israel views or their pro-Arab views – or both.”
yonason
15 years ago
I just found this, from Caroline Glick, whose attention to detail and devotion to truth place her among the very best journalists writing today.
“In their statements Wednesday on Russia’s invasion of Georgia, both US President George W. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice openly acknowledged that Russia is the aggressor in the war and that the US stands by Georgia.
This is all very nice and well. But what does the fact that it took the US a full five days to issue a clear statement against Russian aggression tell us about the US? What does it say about Georgia and, in a larger sense, about the nature of world affairs?
Russia’s blitzkrieg in Georgia this week was not simply an act of aggression against a small, weak democracy. It was an assault on vital Western security interests. Since it achieved independence in 1990, Georgia has been the only obstacle in Russia’s path to exerting full control over oil supplies from Central Asia to the West. And now, in the aftermath of Russia’s conquest of Georgia, that obstacle has been set aside.
Georgia has several oil and gas pipelines that traverse its territory from Azerbaijan to Turkey, the main one being the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline. Together they transport more than 1 percent of global oil supplies from east to west. In response to the Russian invasion, British Petroleum, which owns the pipelines, announced that it will close them.
This means that Russia has won. In the future that same oil and gas will either be shipped through Russia, or it will be shipped through Georgia under the benevolent control of Russian “peacekeeping” forces permanently stationed in Gori. The West now has no option other than appeasing Russia if it wishes to receive its oil from the Caucasus.
Russian control of these oil arteries represents as significant a threat to Western strategic interests as Saddam Hussein’s conquest of Kuwait and his threat to invade Saudi Arabia in 1990. Like Saddam’s aggression then, Russia’s takeover of Georgia threatens the stability of the international economy.“
The rest of the article goes into details you won’t find in any of the MSM rags. (The end is more pertinent to Israel than the US, but it does show the consistent pattern of betrayed promises to all. – I.e., Georgia, your screwed, too!)
And Pelosi is still on vacation, and still opposes drilling here and now, preferring to be at the mercy of the Arabs and the Russians. I would ask, “How stupid can they be?” but I know better. They are only Democrats, after all.
Bubba Thudd
15 years ago
“One can forget about any talk about Georgia’s territorial integrity because, I believe, it is impossible to persuade South Ossetia and Abkhazia to agree with the logic that they can be forced back into the Georgian state,” Lavrov told reporters.
Russia was able to “persuade” Chechnya to be forced back into the Russian state. Why can’t Georgia do the same with its rebellious provinces?
Bubba: Georgia’s ill considered action regarding S. Ossetia was response to the baited trap Russia had set. Too bad the Georgians fell for it, but if it they had not, Russia would have tried something else. They’ve been planning something like this for a while now.
Yonason: No problem with me if you don’t have the same regard for Zbig that I do. I was disappointed that he seemed to go off the reservation these last few years. It’s probably because he, like Scowcroft and others are sooooo 20th Century and feel left out of the game now that they are very senior citizens.
This is not to say they cannot make vital contributions. But it’s they can’t go back to their glory days and they know it.
Besides, if you want to know who really messed things up in the Carter Administration, you don’t need to blame Zbig. He was one of the few voices of sanity. Jimmy and Cyrus Vance were idiots by comparison.
P.S. I like Caroline Glick!
yonason
15 years ago
“Jimmy and Cyrus Vance were idiots by comparison.” — M.A.
No argument there! After all, if Z.B. did offer good advice, how would we know it with Carter in charge, eh?
“P.S. I like Caroline Glick!” — M.A.
I’ve had a “crush” on her writing since I first read it. It’s the way I would wright if I could – everything fits together so well, it’s almost “archatectural” in design. That, and she’s almost always right! (… much more so than the vast majority of others who cover the same topics).
…..and she can spell, too.
Neo
15 years ago
… it is no good when assistance comes to dead people.
That about says it all.
Scrapiron
15 years ago
Caucaus, Comparing a war to liberate 50 million people to a war to put 50 million people under communism is a trait of an anti-american democrat. I know you got that comparison from the retards on CNN as I was visiting (CNN never graces my home) and saw some nut as he was spouting what you copied and spewed on here.
The U.S. can only look from the sidelines since Slick Willie destroyed the U.S. military during the 90’s. Due to the destruction of the military we are now and always be another ‘weak’ country watching from the sidelines. The Russians have been watching with interest as the cowards of this country attempted to surrender in Iraq (as they did in Vietnam with the loss of 3-5 million lives, blood on all democrats hands then and today), and they knew the time was right to start putting the USSR back togather. I’m 67 and will live through it but the young people in this country will pay, and pay dearly for the acts of the cowardly democrat party. Give people like Hussein O and the current democrats time to ‘disarm’ the American people, and the military as Hussein O has vowed to do, and the U.S. can and will be another Georgia.
“…I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” B Hussein Obama,
page 261 of his book, Audacity of Hope…
Based on his actions and words the past few days he also stands with the communist. He had a great communist teacher (mentor) at one time and after years of lying, finally admits it.
Oh my! I thought the Soviet Union had been defeated without firing a shot. I guess the shots are being fired now.
A few hours ago, Russia warned Poland they risk attack, possibly nuke, over the antii-missile system the US and Poland have agreed to. The Russian Black Sea fleet is ignorring Ukrainian orders to stay out of Ukrainian waters once they’ve sailed for Georgia and are threatening aggression there, too. Threats and/or agression against Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia can’t be too far off.
your beloved Brzezinski is a vile liar!
“Large Russian contingents quickly swept into South Ossetia and then into Georgia, sending tanks to Gori and bombing Gori and the capital, Tbilisi.”
If he is so ignorant about the fact that Tbilisi and Gori was not bombed at all, I can make only one conclusion: he gets his facts from CNN, where I’ve heard a lot of nonsense! If he lies about this, undoubtedly he lies about the rest.
and if he says about the false Russian propoganda, I can say without any hesitation that the US has it’s own inveracious propoganda!
Mike;
You must not take a stand on a subject you know very little about. First of all there is more to this defensive of Russia than you are educated about. I am from this area
The Georgian army teamed with Israeli military advisors assisted in invadsion of S. Ossetian on 8/8/08. S. Ossetian has been a seperatist/independent area with it’s OWN government and capital/president. The 98% of the citizens of S. Ossetian are Russian.
The Georgian Army and the Israeli advisors bombed, raped, burned the capital of S. Ossetian
performing ethinic cleansing on Russian citizens. In addition to 1500 civlians that were butchered by the Georgian Army, they killed 18 Russian Peace Keepers.
Yes, Russia retaliated into the interior of Georgia. Yes, Georgian troops were more concerned about the pipeline being bombed. Russia cannot and will not give in to terrorist actions of invasion. When the Checyna Moslems took over a Russian School 4 years ago, the Russians piped in Gas where the terrorists were. They killed them all but unfortunately a lot of innocent people were killed. But as a result, Russia doesn’t have the issues many other countries have with terrorism.
The president of Georgia (not a stranger to violence, remember Stalin was Georgian) has long disputed with this independent section and wants this territory within the controls of Georgia. Crying to the USA (because of our OIL investment and to Europe that it is now supplying)
The other important fact here is OIL, OIL OIL< Caspian Oil with investments from the USA, BP OIL, Turkey, Azerbaijan and Israel was formed to drill for oil in Azerbaijan running a pipeline through Georgia to Turkey’s ports to supply Western Europe. 4 weeks ago Kurds sabotaged part of the pipeline.
Traditional the majority of fuel and energy had been supplied to Europe by Russia. This deal cut Russia and Iran off.
Georgia the second country to adopt Christianity prostituted themselves off to Moslem countries and America/UK for pipeline money. They have long had strains with the Russians because of their inability to be loyal to any one country. Even a fellow Christian Nation.
Georgia needed to be brought under control, if you knew how much of your tax dollars went to support this pipeline and how much went into military supplies for Georgia you would cringe at this back room deals fellow Texans and oil people like Bush and Hunt have made.
Lastly, President Bush has no room to tell anyone or any country to back off. Look at the slaughter we have done to the innocent people of Iraq? Over 150,000 civlians dead, 4,500+ American soliders dead and about 600,000 people injured. Not to mention the 3 million refugee Iraqis Christian ARmenians, Assyrians, Moslems, Yedzjis, Kurds that have had to flee their country because of our stupidilty and hunger for OIL< OIL< OIL.
And YOU THOUGHT NONE OF THIS HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH OIL?????read sources below
http://debka.com/article.php?aid=1358
Hebrew Israeli paper and their involvement in the ethnic cleansing and pipeline
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080808/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_georgia_middleman
US Economic Stake in Georgia
The fuit of “a dangerous precedent”
____________________________________________________________________
“Brzezinski is a vile liar” — Victoria
So I’ve heard. Actually, I prefer “pond scum,” myself. I mean, he is an Obama adviser and an ex-Clintonista (co-author of the loss of Iran to the Islamists).
I have no idea how Brzezinski has become such a neocon of late, though I would suspect it’s a cynical attempt at making Obama look tough, which neither one is, at least not ever in the right ways in the past. I don’t trust him, or his opinions, and even if I hear him say things I might otherwise agree with, he would not be one of the “authorities” I would rely on to make my case. It has to do with his lack of credibility, and so not wanting to give credence to his other crackpot notions.
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2007/08/zbignew-brezezinksi-barack-obama-and.html
“”Obama is clearly more effective and has the upper hand,” Brzezinski…said. “He has a sense of what is historically relevant, and what is needed from the United States in relationship to the world.” “ — (excuse me while I hurl)
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2008/02/just-4-years.html
“The Carter Administration weakened the Shah and opened the door for his overthrow. With the Shah overthrown, the Carter Administration favored the Ayatollah Khomeni under Brzezinski’s green belt policy (Brez is back as Obama’s foreign policy advisor) and his failure to react usefully to the hostage crisis solidified Khomeni’s power. The Iranian threat today and the rise of Shia terrorism can all be traced back to the Carter Administration.
Brzezinski and Carter also began backing and funding Islamic terrorists in Pakistan via ISI. Indirectly this led to the growth of Islamic terrorism operating out of Pakistan, that continues to be a second home for Al Queda.”
http://www.mmisi.org/ir/21_02/eidelberg.pdf
“That is why Marxism … represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man’s universal vision. Marxism is simultaneoulsy a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief:…” — Professor Paul Eidelberg quoting Brzezinski
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/27/top-obama-adviser-accuses-jews-of-mccarthyism/
Using Brzezinski’s thoughts in an attempt to bolster any argument is what I would call another “very dangerous precedent.”
Yonason: Next week when Zbig praises Obama Victoria will be hailing him as a hero.
As for Caucaus, I’d say he flings that “ignorant” label around with the same zeal and towards the same purpose as Victoria.
Both of them willing dupes for the
SovietsRussians.As for Brzezinski, I don’t hold him in the disregard that you do, or that the left does when it’s convenient. I don’t agree with him when he’s bashing Bush. He does that to sell books and try and remain relevant as turned 80 years old in March. But, I learned first hand that he understands the issues of Eastern Europe very clearly and as someone born in Poland he has a strong attachment to their sad history.
And it’s that experience we are focusing on today with the resurgence of an aggresive imperialist Russia threatening it’s neighbors.
Both Caucaus and Victoria would like to take our eye off that problem, but it’s one that’s not going away and has only gotten worse the longer we have avoided dealing with it.
P.S. I’m surprised that neither Victoria nor Caucaus went after the Missile Defense agreement with Poland. Along with controlling energy supplies to Western Europe, preventing U.S. missile defense in Europe is their next objective.
I see the Pravda disinformazia team and its amen-corner are out in force.
Denials of the smashing of Gori are especially stupid now that the press and NGO’s have got in there and reported on- the smashing of Gori.
Russia has been preparing this invasion for months: there’s nothing spontaneous about it. Georgia took the bait, true- but it *was* bait: the Ossetian separatist’s shelling of Georgian towns, cynically designed by the Kremlin as a pretext for the conquest they have been setting up since April.
Meanwhile, Russian claims of ‘genocide’ and ‘ethnic cleansing’ in S Ossetia have been completely debunked- but the Ossetian militias moving in the wake of the Russian coumns are most assuredly engaged in scorched earth and ethnic cleansing against Georgians.
The *one* area where the Russian tale has any force lies in the comparison with Kosovo. They’re right. The EU and US were fools (and it was obvious at the time) to recognize Kosovas sovereignty.
Mike’sAmerica
My feelings for Brzezinski are mostly based on his blatant anti-Semitism, …and a close second is his support for Islam and love of Communism (see quote from Prof., Eidelberg, above). His “expertise” is so compromised by his biases that I don’t feel comfortable using him as a reference when that could imply that I might agree with him on his other really really bad ideas (that’s why I don’t use Bush’s statements; or, if I do, not without adding a cautionary, “BUT only in this case, and not necessarily for the same reasons…”
If a company has an employee who regularly starts fires by trowing lit matches in trash cans, endangering the company and all it’s employees, you don’t give him a reward just because he happened to put one of those fires out once.
____________________________________________
“Yonason: Next week when Zbig praises Obama Victoria will be hailing him as a hero.” — Mike’s America
A perfect example what why I won’t be quoting Z.B. this week, when I’ll only have to be trashing him next.
It’s like that nut Barry Chamish who may actually be accidentally right about 1 or 2 things, but is wrong on everything else. I refuse to use him as support for anything, because it poisons the case.
That’s odd – Is my response to William C. in the Spam bin? (In short, I agreed).
I found Zbig to be a neocon before being a neocon was cool. Now that’s it not cool to be a neocon anymore, he’s morphed to something else.
I never found him to be anti-semitic and we spent hours discussing the Middle East peace process.
And as for communism, I couldn’t disagree more. He profoundly understood the problem, even as the rest of Columbia University was caught up in Gorbachev worship.
I knew all I had to do to get an “A” for the day in doctoral level seminar on National Security (ten grad students locked in an windowlesss oak paneled room with Zbig for an hour a week) was to relate how the Soviet problem and issues of Poland were not going to go away no matter what new face was in the Kremlin.
Fascinating, Mike!
(note that I reserve the right to retain my negative impressions of him until I see the evidence for myself, but I certainly can’t accuse you of not having what to rely on.) Anyway, so perhaps with the caveat that he’s a reliable expert on Russia, I might be able to buy it (with money back guarantee?), especially if you are selling.
Thanks
UPDATE: “Obama has received generous support from billionaire George Soros. In recent years, Soros has devoted himself to replacing politicians who support fighting the forces of global terror and supporting Israel with politicians who support appeasing jihadists and dumping Israel.
As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama opposed defining Iran’s Revolutionary Guards as a terrorist group. He calls for the US to withdraw from Iraq – only to return if genocide is being carried out [Like that’s not one of the major things we were fighting against for the last few years?] and then, only as part of an international force [Riiight, like that’s going to happen!]. He also supports opening negotiations with Iran even if the Iranians continue to enrich uranium. In forming these views, he is assisted by his foreign policy team which includes ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI, Mark Brzezinski, Anthony Lake, Susan Rice and Robert Malley.
All of these people are known either for their anti-Israel views or their pro-Arab views – or both.”
I just found this, from Caroline Glick, whose attention to detail and devotion to truth place her among the very best journalists writing today.
The rest of the article goes into details you won’t find in any of the MSM rags. (The end is more pertinent to Israel than the US, but it does show the consistent pattern of betrayed promises to all. – I.e., Georgia, your screwed, too!)
And Pelosi is still on vacation, and still opposes drilling here and now, preferring to be at the mercy of the Arabs and the Russians. I would ask, “How stupid can they be?” but I know better. They are only Democrats, after all.
“One can forget about any talk about Georgia’s territorial integrity because, I believe, it is impossible to persuade South Ossetia and Abkhazia to agree with the logic that they can be forced back into the Georgian state,” Lavrov told reporters.
Russia was able to “persuade” Chechnya to be forced back into the Russian state. Why can’t Georgia do the same with its rebellious provinces?
Bubba: Georgia’s ill considered action regarding S. Ossetia was response to the baited trap Russia had set. Too bad the Georgians fell for it, but if it they had not, Russia would have tried something else. They’ve been planning something like this for a while now.
Yonason: No problem with me if you don’t have the same regard for Zbig that I do. I was disappointed that he seemed to go off the reservation these last few years. It’s probably because he, like Scowcroft and others are sooooo 20th Century and feel left out of the game now that they are very senior citizens.
This is not to say they cannot make vital contributions. But it’s they can’t go back to their glory days and they know it.
Besides, if you want to know who really messed things up in the Carter Administration, you don’t need to blame Zbig. He was one of the few voices of sanity. Jimmy and Cyrus Vance were idiots by comparison.
P.S. I like Caroline Glick!
“Jimmy and Cyrus Vance were idiots by comparison.” — M.A.
No argument there! After all, if Z.B. did offer good advice, how would we know it with Carter in charge, eh?
“P.S. I like Caroline Glick!” — M.A.
I’ve had a “crush” on her writing since I first read it. It’s the way I would wright if I could – everything fits together so well, it’s almost “archatectural” in design. That, and she’s almost always right! (… much more so than the vast majority of others who cover the same topics).
…..and she can spell, too.
That about says it all.
Caucaus, Comparing a war to liberate 50 million people to a war to put 50 million people under communism is a trait of an anti-american democrat. I know you got that comparison from the retards on CNN as I was visiting (CNN never graces my home) and saw some nut as he was spouting what you copied and spewed on here.
The U.S. can only look from the sidelines since Slick Willie destroyed the U.S. military during the 90’s. Due to the destruction of the military we are now and always be another ‘weak’ country watching from the sidelines. The Russians have been watching with interest as the cowards of this country attempted to surrender in Iraq (as they did in Vietnam with the loss of 3-5 million lives, blood on all democrats hands then and today), and they knew the time was right to start putting the USSR back togather. I’m 67 and will live through it but the young people in this country will pay, and pay dearly for the acts of the cowardly democrat party. Give people like Hussein O and the current democrats time to ‘disarm’ the American people, and the military as Hussein O has vowed to do, and the U.S. can and will be another Georgia.
“…I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” B Hussein Obama,
page 261 of his book, Audacity of Hope…
Based on his actions and words the past few days he also stands with the communist. He had a great communist teacher (mentor) at one time and after years of lying, finally admits it.
Oh my! I thought the Soviet Union had been defeated without firing a shot. I guess the shots are being fired now.
A few hours ago, Russia warned Poland they risk attack, possibly nuke, over the antii-missile system the US and Poland have agreed to. The Russian Black Sea fleet is ignorring Ukrainian orders to stay out of Ukrainian waters once they’ve sailed for Georgia and are threatening aggression there, too. Threats and/or agression against Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia can’t be too far off.