Can Obama be Beaten?

Can Obama’s charisma be taken away? I would put it at Reagan vs Carter or JFK vs Nixon just yet. There are plenty of people that folded early because they said or did something wrong.
But let’s say he does all the right things, there is still:
1. Pricing him out of the market. Show how much him being president will cost America and maybe even the world.
2. Attack the VP nominee. Ross Perot was pretty good, but his VP nominee helped do him under.
3. Keep the day to day questions on Obama. Obviously he can’t answer them all, but the ones he doesn’t answer can stick. If he does answer the questions, he will sound more dry like a student trying to answer a test, rather than a peacher like speaker. The more information he gives, the possibility of holes increases. Such questions could be who he would choose as his cabinet members, what he would have done differently for New Orleans, how does he plan to get departments, how would he handle a problem if his first solution didn’t work, etc.
4. Promote the Republican agenda. People are going to dislike paying extra taxes, especially when they are already in debt.

The way to deal with Obama is to go completely negative. Call him a Marxist, empty suite, vague, fiscally ruinous, less than ignorant on foreign policy. Publicize what his church stands for. Expose his anti-Israel advisers. Hillary can’t do it because she is exactly the same, but even the “moderate” McCain can. Deal with the racism charge head on. You can’t beat him by being nice, he will out-demagogue anyone in the realm of generalities.

First of all Doc I’ve heard it put both ways: Democrat Party and Democratic Party.

Only by people engaging in a little schoolyard-level bullying.

See: here, here, and here, to begin with.

Doc,

Actually, I wish neither Obama nor Hillary Clinton would ever win the Presidency. Until the Democratic Party sheds its leftist/socialist base and stands against holistic socialism, they will never get any support from me.

My kids go to elementary school. I don’t get into politics with them. They are both pro-obama. My daughter explained to me how Hillary Clinton herself broke down in tears after hearing one of Obama’s speeches.

Seriously folks, thats the kind of stuff that is going around among the “unwashed masses”.

McCain/Rice – because you know it would drive them nuts and expose their underbelly.

Crosspatch, that is exactly why my kids will never set foot inside government indoctrination camps ummm, I mean, public school again.

That said, my husband, definitely not a political buff by any stretch of the imagination, offered up his take on the Obama surge. People are rejecting Hillary Clinton and casting a ‘protest vote’ for Obama instead hence the lack of knowledge of his non-existent accomplishments. They don’t care what he has or hasn’t done as long as he isn’t Hillary Clinton.

Mike, I don’t know if he is deflecting that much. Although he is pleasing the Democrats, he isn’t pleasing those that would probably see their taxes increase during a possible recession. Gross wages haven’t beat inflation since the early ’70s. Any tax hike during inflation will hurt the voters and they probably will sense that, at least when they get an increase in their taxes. Their fear could override their sense of awe.

The New Yorker, Wikipedia and Media Matters….can’t go wrong there.

Yeah. If only the New Yorker had some kind of legendary fact-checking infrastructure. Oh, wait; it has.

Oh look, a new troll!!!

How about we accurately call the modern democratic Party what it is: The American Socialist Party (in close partnership with the American Communist Party, World Workers Party, and ACT/ANSWER/ACORN/Move-on) and underwritten by multi-billionaires Soros and Co.

Shhhhhh! How’s the proletariat ever gonna unite and rebel against da-man if you tell em who the controls the 21st Cent DNC?
“the modern democratic Party…: The American Socialist Party (in close partnership with the American Communist Party, World Workers Party, and ACT/ANSWER/ACORN/Move-on) and underwritten by multi-billionaires Soros and Co.”

Oh look, a new troll!!!

Page one of the Right-wing playbook: if you lose on points, start calling names.

At heart they are neosocialists who will kill the Goose that lays the Golden Eggs.

Page two: change the subject.

P.S. No comment on Media Matters constant harping on HUSSEIN, and the race riots he and his drug crazed, moonie followers would unleash?

Sure, I’ll comment on your Media Matters charge.

Doc: Is that the same Media Matters, started by Hillary Clinton and funded by America hater George Soros?

Right. Is it your contention, then, that it would be part of Media Matters’s overall scheme to lie about the name of the political party of the person you say started it? And the reasoning behind that would be precisely what, now?

Seriously. You people make this too easy. Bring your A game next time.

Well, let me throw my two cents in here. I think that if it is an Obama – McCain election, McCain has a much better chance at winning than people think. The critical thing is to keep the focus on the issues and away, as much as possible, from the rhetoric.

Firstly, the Republicans have to embrace the fact that McCain is the candidate even if his record is not one the right wing of the party likes. The sooner the Republican Party has its act together, develops a coherent message across the issues and delivers it to the electorate, the better. This will be even more effective if the Democratic primary comes down to a cat fight between HC and BO with HC trying to use the super delegates to “steal” the candidacy.

The devil is always in the details. In the primaries the candidates can get away with speaking in generalities and proposing lofty goals. BO is obviously a powerful orator. And people are always looking for the Deus Ex Machina, the savior who descends from the clouds and solves seemingly, insoluble problems. It is a nice fairy tale.

BO can speak ad nauseum about change, but regardless of who is elected, that does not mean that the situation in the world outside changes. Iran will still be developing nuclear weapons, Israel will still be surrounded by enemies, the Middle East will still be in turmoil, our country and our economy, as well as the world economy, will still be dependent on Middle East oil which has been funding Islamofascism for decades, our southern border will still be an open door for Mexicans. These things are not going to change.

Americans need to get clear answers on the candidates plans to address: the economy, health care, Islamic terrorism, support for Israel, the southern border, illegal aliens, the Iranian threat, the North Korean threat, the rise of China, the war in Iraq, etc. There are plenty of issues.

Take Iran as an obvious example. Here are a few direct questions: Do you believe that Iran is developing nuclear weapons? If YES, is an Iran with nuclear weapons acceptable? If it is not, what measures are we prepared to take to prevent it?

Or, for the southern border, Do you believe we need to secure that border? If YES, how to we do it? What is the timeframe?

How about the position on support for Israel? Believe me, Jewish voters will want an answer to that question.

One of the previous posts spoke about cabinet members and fallback plans which are also good questions.

These types of questions need to be asked so that voters get a clear picture of what they are going to get with this or that candidate and not just a “feel good” speech. The danger of course, is that a compliant media avoids the tough questions and the details and allows the good talker, in this case BO, to blow smoke. Forcing the media to ask the tough questions is what we need to be working on.

If BO is pressed, it will be more difficult to spew generalities. Remember his remark on invading Pakistan which was immediately exposed as ridiculous logistically, diplomatically and politically. I think that McCain, even though he is not as polished a speaker, will have an easier time responding directly to tough questions.

IMO, on many issues facing the country, the majority of Americans are fairly conservative. The more the Republicans can keep the spotlight on the issues and force the candidates to articulate clear positions on the issues, the more it benefits the Republicans.

C’mon Doc, I was asking-not stating or putting words in your mouth, but ASKING for clarification. If I were putting words in your mouth, I’d have said, “LOL! Doc thinks Media Matters is a respectable, unbiased media watchdog”

Hey Doc, you don’t like “Democrat” Party? It upsets you I see. Good enough for me. Maybe some day you creepy lefties will deign to correctly label your party, The Socialist Party or even more accurately, The Stalinist Party. Till than, it’s The Democrat Party for me.

“Bring your A game next time.”
Oh, it’s already been brought-ed
;p

Well what was that original post ??
oh yeah
“Can Obama be beaten”
Well of course he can, but you are going to have to come up with something better than “I am just like Reagan”
And you are going to have to be realistic, remember you are trying to get the Independents to vote your way. At this point Bush has driven almost all of them away from the Republican party.
John M the Jewish vote goes to the Democrats, 87% in the last Federal election, you may as well write them off.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/US/H/00/epolls.0.html

your silence speaks for itself

You’re outdoing yourself today. Bravo!

BREAKING NEWS FOR MOONBATS: George W Bush isn’t running in 2008
“Independents to vote your way. At this point Bush has driven almost all of them away from the Republican party.”

John Ryan,

You are correct. Traditionally the Jewish vote goes overwhelmingly to the Democrats. However, I think that Obama, if he is the candidate, potentially has positions that could alienate Jewish voters. These will only come out if he is pressed to clearly explain his position on their important issues and, of course, Israel and a palestinian state are usually at the top of the list. “change” (Obama’s mantra) can be a dangerous thing if it is in the wrong direction. As another poster indicated, the more he talks about specifics, the more vulnerable he beomes.