1 Oct

Foleygate Has Begun

                                       

I’ve closed out this post and begun a new one here.

Tom Maguire from JustOneMinute, Rick Moran from Rightwing Nuthouse, and Clarice Feldman from The American Thinker have been doing some wonderful research on the suspicious way in which this story took fire. In my earlier post I delved into the fact that the liberal group CREW had a big hand in getting the IM’s out. Now Rick has done some research on the website that supposedly broke the story:

Stop Sex Predators came on line in late July with one post announcing its intention to “serve as a clearing house for the public to report sex predators and as a resource for concerned parents and citizens.”

The next blog post wasn’t until August 17th where the writer listed in a rather desultory manner some more notable sex predators. After that, two posts on August 26.

[...]The fourth and last post for the entire month of August was a cut and paste from Wikpedia of the Gary Condit affair. More “political predators” on a site dedicated to sex predators in general? Why?

Then in September there were two more posts until Sept 21st where Foley is mentioned for the first time.

I have been away for a while, so please accept my apologies for the lack of blog posts. BUT….while I was away, the blog has been noticed and some shocking emails have been received! I can hardly believe it! I’m posting each one below. It’s proof that the Congressional Corruption of the past is alive and well today. It’s up to us to expose it and stop this predatory harassment! Please promote the blog and email any further information to stopsexpredators@gmail.com . Together we will make a difference!

Rick asks the same thing any of us would. How in the world did someone “notice” this blog with all of 6 posts and only started in July? How far down in google do you think this blog would be? Waaaaaay down.

Why would anyone notice this blog? It has posted nothing original in its short existence. The rare postings means that it has not built up any audience whatsoever. The first Technorati reference to the blog is from two days ago. Even a Google search doesn’t show it on the first 10 pages when searching for “Stop Sex Predators.”

And yet, 3 separate people who had contact with Congressman Foley somehow found this website independent of one another and supposedly sent emails to the owner of this site to complain about Foley’s inappropriate behavior.

Possible? Yes. Probable? I’ll let you decide.

I hearby declare shananigans…..get your broomsticks fellas.

That’s not all of it, apparently some commentors to JustOneMinute believe they know who the owner of the blog is, one Jason Leopold:

Clarice informs me that an old friend might be behind the Stop Sex Predators blog:

One of the JOM (Just One Minute) posters who’s been paying attention thinks Jason Leopold is the owner of stopsexpredators. The only place we can find a link to the story is another site (from the desk of patrick J fitzgerald which we also think is Leopold) Leopold you may recall was writing all those crazy stories for Truthout including the one that Rove was indicted and the indictment would be unsealed in 24 hours.

Highly speculative, but it fits. Leopold would have been able to make CREW aware of the emails published on the blog. Here’s ABC News on the genesis of the story:

Yesterday, we asked the congressman about some much tamer e-mails from one page, and he said he was just being overly friendly. After we posted that story online, we began to hear from a number of other pages who sent these much more explicit, instant messages. When the congressman realized we had them, he resigned.

Instant messages not emails. As ABC makes clear, there are two different stories. The question is, how many sources?
Anyone have a feeling this is going to come back to bite the Democrats once more?

UPDATE

Guess what Brian Ross just posted, that Foley was known to be gay and the staff there told the pages to ignore his friendly behavior.

A Republican staff member warned congressional pages five years ago to watch out for Congressman Mark Foley, according to a former page.

Matthew Loraditch, a page in the 2001-2002 class, told ABC News he and other pages were warned about Foley by a supervisor in the House Clerk’s office.

Loraditch, the president of the Page Alumni Association, said the pages were told “don’t get too wrapped up in him being too nice to you and all that kind of stuff.”

[...]Loraditch says that some of the pages who “interacted” with Foley were hesitant to report his behavior because “members of Congress, they’ve got the power.” Many of the pages were hoping for careers in politics and feared Foley might seek retribution.

Where in the world are the Democrats going to end up on this? Will they now come out against gays? Do they know that apparently in DC the age of consent is 16? Using your power to gain sexual favors (which there is no evidence that sex ever occurred with these pages) is horrible and he should have resigned, as he did.

Unlike a certain Democrat…cough Clinton cough.

UPDATE II

Ray Robison notices the difference in reporting by our MSM outfits when it comes to a Republican.

UPDATE III 2050hrs PST

An important update here. Just Barking Mad has found that at least one of the emails in question have been altered by someone.

Just Barking Mad found this email on that blog Stop Sex Predators:

All fine and dandy. But check out the release from CREW, from page 5 of their release:

Same exact email based on the narrative but a different subject line….

Like I said, FoleyGate has begun.

UPDATE IV 2105hrs PST

Checking on this alteration thing and it appears that the PDF from CREW is a forwarded message from the kid with him cutting and pasting text and omitting the header information. The only one with header information is the first one on Page 4.

But this doesn’t explain how the emails looked as they did on the Stop Sex Predators blog. Did he cut and paste the header from Page 4 of the PDF and made the other emails look like that one?

Smells fishy in Wonderland Alice.

UPDATE V 2240hrs pst

Apparently Wild Bill from Smoke Signals Blog has discovered who the IM’s were sent to and is asking for a response. From the IM’s it appears the interaction was not against his will so I doubt we will find out anything new if he does respond but alas, it’s worth a try.

UPDATE VI 2245hrs PST

This NYT’s article gives another side of Mr. Foley huh?

In the hierarchy of Congress, the high school students who serve as Congressional pages fall somewhere near the bottom, seemingly invisible as they scurry through the hallways of the Capitol ferrying messages to powerful lawmakers who often fail to give them a second glance.

In that rarefied world, Representative Mark Foley, the silver-haired Republican from Florida, stood out.

He took pains to befriend the 16- and 17-year-old aides, several former pages said in interviews on Sunday. He chatted with them on the House floor, they said, sent handwritten notes and urged them to keep in touch when they left Washington for their hometowns.

In 2002, he even stood up on the floor of the House, his eyes welling with tears, and commended the young men and women for their year of service. In his speech, Mr. Foley mentioned several of the high school students by name, describing a handwritten note to celebrate one young man’s graduation and a lunch with another at Morton’s steak house.

Now I’m sure at this point many of you are saying, “well, he was so nice because he wanted to get in bed with them”

But if he was gay how do you explain female pages giving the same stories?

Ashley Gallo, a 21-year-old former page who is now a senior at Western Michigan University, said on Sunday that many of her friends had viewed Mr. Foley as one of the few lawmakers who made a real effort to reach out to young people.

“You didn’t have a lot of interaction with the members because most of them treated you like a kid, but he was pretty friendly,” said Ms. Gallo, who served as a page in 2001. “He would talk to people,” she said.

“He would say, ‘Here’s my e-mail address if you want to keep in touch.’ I don’t think anyone thought anything of it. They saw him as a mentor or a reference.”

The article goes on to detail other male pages who never experienced inappropiate contact from Mr. Foley.

The sound your hearing is the sound of a scandal slowly coming to a stop and going in reverse.

UPDATE VII 2300hrs PST

You know I’m at a loss to explain this other NYT’s article in which they go into any possible laws Foley may have broken. The writer explains that emails and IM’s involve no contact so they can be difficult to prosecute but:

In the absence of physical contact, said Douglas A. Berman, a law professor at Ohio State University, some prosecutors reviewing e-mail messages like Mr. Foley’s “could say, ‘This is really gross, I need to take a shower,’ but not charge” the sender with a crime.

But Professor Berman added, “There are cases in which people have done stuff that is not significantly worse and have had the book thrown at them.”

Earlier this year, for instance, the Arizona Supreme Court upheld a 200-year sentence for a former Phoenix high school teacher convicted of possessing child pornography. The teacher, Morton R. Berger, was not charged with transmitting pornography or with having unlawful contact with minors.

WTF! Ok now, emailing and IM’ing someone over the age of 16 (age of consent in DC) about sex is one thing but to compare it to child pornography is outrageous. Yes, what Mr. Foley did was morally wrong in my book but the teacher the Times compares him to, Mr. Morton Berger, possessed the following:

Specifically, he was charged with possession of 20 photographs depicting, among other things, children being raped by adults, children engaging in sexual acts with other children, and children in sexual acts with animals.


More
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Morton R. Berger, who was a history teacher at Cortez High School, was arrested four years ago based on his possession of photographs, computer video files and computer photo files of children, all younger than 15, in sex acts. Prosecutors dismissed 15 counts but got convictions on the remaining 20.

A bit different then sending consensual emails with someone over the age of consent don’t you think? It appears the Times does not agree….big surprise there.

UPDATE VIII 2315hrs PST

Wild Bill has posted a copy of each one of the disputed emails with the differences pointed out:

First the one from CREW:

And now the one from SSP:

You know it almost looks like the author of SSP was read the email, maybe over the phone, and tried to produce something that looked like a faxed copy. Thing is he forgot all the little stuff.

UPDATE IX 2358hrs PST

Ok, last update for the night..gonna hit the sack. But I just had to highlight this statement from the executive director of CREW:

Melanie Sloan, CREW’s executive director, said today, “It is horrifying to learn that some members of Congress were more concerned with covering up a potentially embarrassing situation than with protecting the teenage pages.” Sloan continued, “the American people, and particularly the parents of other pages, have a right to know if congressional leaders put politics above the safety of children.”

More horrifying is that this organization apparently knew of these allegations and emails over the whole summer but choose the end of September to start the presskreig…..putting all these kids at risk so they could come up with their October Surprise.

How special.

UPDATE X 10/2/06 1430hrs PST

Since I have been unable to post updates due to server problems what with the huge amount of traffic from LGF it seems I have missed quite a bit.

Macranger has found that the owner of BlogActive.net and the owner of SSP may be one in the same:

They’re may be a possibilty that the one who runs Blog Active.com, and the one who runs Stop Sex Predators may be one in the same. That may be Mike Rogers, the infamous Gay Republican Outer.

Via Rogers site:

“Well the good news is that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is finally getting it. I called their Director of Communications, Bill Burton, to let him know that the Foley thing (and another case) were coming down the pike. While Burton promised to have someone email or return my call and didn’t, I am glad he followed up on my call and was ready on Friday to come out of the gate running.

The bad new is they are still not paying enough attention… There are others within reach… If the Democrats would only fight half as hard as the Republicans”

Rogers is miffed that the DCCC has been deleting his posts. No wonder as even they sense a major backfire if it get’s out that this was all a “Gay Republican Outing” that netted more than it bargained for.

Rogers seemingly isn’t ashamed to take the credit, per a post he made at the DCCC before it was deleted:

“Very exciting.

I am glad my work on this is finally coming to fruition. I spoke with Bill Burton at the DCCC about this and I’m so glad you guys were able to jump in on the heels of my work.

Obviously we didn’t have a chance of winning this seat, so this is great.

Good Job!

Mike Rogers
Blogactive.com

Posted by: Mike Rogers | September 29, 2006 09:55 PM

Note Rogers warns about another case coming “down the pike”. Of course these revelations migh just sideline that severely.

Fact is that Rogers admits to being in possession of the IM’s BEFORE they were posted on the web via his own comments on his site:

“As people know, it’s not always possible for me to disclose my role in some of the activities.

I can say this. I had the emails before they were on the net. Additionally, I had the additional emails, written by the page to a friend. The story was being written by a number of outlets and I provided additional information to reporters involved in the breaking of this story.

Was the central figure in reporting on Foley’s latest scandal? Never said I was. Was my work on the case important to helping make sure it came out before the election? Yes.

Did I have any idea that the GOP leadership was engaged in a cover-up? Nope. Do I love the fact that they are trying to spin this as ‘naughty emails?’ Yup. because it shows how out of tought they are about queer closet cases.”

Similarly there is a promise of that “down the pike” story:

“While the Foley scandal is great news for the Dems in Nov. John, when will we see the much touted outing of the Mystery Senator? This would be a great time to do it.. Give the Repubs the old one two punch!”

This of course refers to Rogers prior blackmailing of an unnamed Republican Senator back in January. In any case I imagine that as the “agenda” is exposed, the Democrats most likely will seen as the losers in the exchange, a fact the DCCC is already acknowledging.
Do I have to keep saying this? This “scandal” WILL come back to bite the Democrats in the ass.

The fact that emails were altered is small fry compared to the fact that a known lefty operative appears to have had these emails and IM’s for quite some time and didn’t release them until now….putting how many kids at risk? For what?

A October Surprise.

UPDATE XI 1500hrs PST

Gateway Pundit
has found some more proof that this was a concerted hitjob by a militant gay group to take away that Republican seat:

Now… Get this posting at Blog Active back on March 4, 2005:


Click to enlarge

Here are the threats and plans to destroy Mark Foley printed at a Leftist-haters blog back in March of 2005:

Birds of a Feather
Two haters, one picture:
Gay-bashing straight man John Ashcroft and Gay-bashing gay man Mark Foley

This is United States Congressman Mark Foley
He voted this week for a law to allow hate groups to fire gay and lesbian people at will
The law he is supporting will overrule ANY local laws on the matter.
MARK FOLEY IS GAY
MARK FOLEY WILL BE EXPOSED FOR THE HYPOCRITE HE IS THROUGH A MAIL AND INTERNET CAMPAIGN THAT WILL REACH INTO EVERY HOME IN HIS DISTRICT.

THIS MAN IS A DANGER

TO GAY MEN AND LESBIANS

DO NOT SLEEP WITH THIS MAN
IF HE CRUISES YOU IN THE BATHROOMS OF CONGRESS,IGNORE HIM!
IF HE HITS ON YOU AT THE NEXT REPUBLICAN CONVENTIONIGNORE HIM!

THE NATION MUST BE WARNED ABOUT THIS
ABOMINATION IN THE GAY COMMUNITY

Please to support our educational and advertising campaign against this right wing hypocrite, click here and join the battle for true lesbian and gay liberation.

**COMING MONDAY ON BLOGACTIVE:** The entire Mark Foley story…Read about my recorded discussions with staff members and former staff members of Rep. Mark Foley…Read about how Mark Foley hit on men less than half his age at the Republican convention…Read about how Mark Foley voted to remove protections from those same young gay men and lesbians and anyone else violating a local discrimination law!!!

And back in 2004 there were open threats in the Washington Blade by Rogers targeting Foley:

20 offices said targeted
Not likely, say Mike Rogers and John Aravosis, the two men loosely heading an ongoing outing campaign on the Hill. As the date nears for a Senate vote on the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would ban gay marriages in the Constitution, Rogers said the outings have picked up steam — from 13 documented offices to nearly 20 currently on a target list provided by Rogers to the Blade.

In addition to Tolman, Rogers and Aravosis, working in tandem but not together, claimed in the last week to have outed via the Web Democratic Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland and Republican Congressman Mark Foley of Florida.

While Tolman confirmed he is gay, the Mikulski’s office refused to comment on speculation she is a lesbian, something Aravosis implied last week on his site.

A spokesperson for Congressman Mark Foley (R-Fla.) also declined to comment after Aravosis specifically asserted that Foley is gay on his Web site last week.

Both members of Congress have long been the subject of rumors about their sexual orientation.
Foley abused his position and may have been involved in criminal activity.

Democrats knew this for over a year.

With 6 weeks before the November elections, they broke the dam loose!
UPDATE XII 1630hrs PST

Sean Hannity had a great interview earlier today with John Boehner, and Newt Gingrich. Here is a 15 minute .mp3 of both interviews.

UPDATE XII 1710hrs PST

Now this is how to summerize this story:

What R leadership knew: “How was your vacation, send me a pic”

What D leadership knew: “I’d drive a thousand miles for a hot young stud like you”

So who was allowing “abuse” ???

That scandal train is slowly squeaking backwards….

UPDATE XIII 10/3/06 0900hrs PST

The blog that started it all, the suspicious Stop Sex Predators has now cleared its site of all comments…I wonder why that could be?

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4 Responses to Foleygate Has Begun

  1. Ernest says: 1

    I say that the e-mails should be considered forgeries unless they can be backed up with the header information. The information that the email client and servers put in the
    ema il, but you normally don’t see. For example, with Outlook, select the email, then right click, then select options. You will see the header. Otherwise anyone with a typewriter could have made those ‘e-mails’

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  2. Darlene says: 2

    Some hilarious wrotings from upstairs:

    1. “Anyone have a feeling this is going to come back to bite the Democrats once more?”

    Democrats? Try to focus here. It’s Republicans and their now-known-everywhere COVER-UP of Foley’s “innapropriate contacts” and Boner’s and Hastert’s COVER-UP that is going to cost you self-destructive republicans millions of votes.

    2.”Where in the world are the Democrats going to end up on this? Will they now come out against gays?”

    Try coming out (as gay, for instance) yourselves first, instead of hiding your taste for young boys and covering for republican perverts. There’s nothing wrong with being gay. Your dilemma is resident in the fact that you make incredibly dull-witted pronouncements about how you are superior morally, sexually, financially and militarily, superior in religion and faith, superior in patriotism. That’s great, except that you ain’t and it’s all just window dressing and Advertising Age crap.

    Try to focus. This is about your failures, not the Democrats.

    3.”Pelosi is taking action but isn’t this a day late and a dollar short? If everybody, pages included knew since 2001 how in the hell did the Democrats not know.”

    Again. Try to focus. This isn’t about Pelosi. This is about THE REPUBLICANS AND THEIR COVER-UP.

    What it means is, I’m voting DEMOCRAT from now on and millions more will join me. We’ve had enough of your perversions of faith, patriotism, morals, etc. You’ve had six years and have held power through six of the last nine administrations and you still can’t get it right. Wait and see. Next thing you know, instead of Clinton, Liberals or Terrorism, Republicans will be blaming all of their failures on Global Warming.

    * * *

    from Mark Twain’s Letters From the Earth c.1909

    “Satan’s Letter

    This is a strange place, and extraordinary place, and interesting. There is nothing resembling it at home. The people are all insane, the other animals are all insane, the earth is insane, Nature itself is insane. Man is a marvelous curiosity. When he is at his very very best he is a sort of low grade nickel-plated angel; at is worst he is unspeakable, unimaginable; and first and last and all the time he is a sarcasm. Yet he blandly and in all sincerity calls himself the “noblest work of God.” This is the truth I am telling you. And this is not a new idea with him, he has talked it through all the ages, and believed it. Believed it, and found nobody among all his race to laugh at it.

    Moreover — if I may put another strain upon you — he thinks he is the Creator’s pet. He believes the Creator is proud of him; he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes, and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to Him, and thinks He listens. Isn’t it a quaint idea? Fills his prayers with crude and bald and florid flatteries of Him, and thinks He sits and purrs over these extravagancies and enjoys them. He prays for help, and favor, and protection, every day; and does it with hopefulness and confidence, too, although no prayer of his has ever been answered. The daily affront, the daily defeat, do not discourage him, he goes on praying just the same. There is something almost fine about this perseverance. I must put one more strain upon you: he thinks he is going to heaven!”

    That’s a fruitbat Republican Satan is talking about. No question.

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  3. RiverRat says: 3

    I wonder who the 2nd Page worked for. It’s clear from the IMs he was more accepting of Foley’s advances than than the first one who wrote to Alexander’s staff the guy was…sick,sick,sick.

    I wonder if he worked for a Donk. Was it a sting?

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