Ukraine/Russia – The Electric War

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by Pepe Escobar

Footfalls echo in the memory
Down the passage which we did not take
Towards the door we never opened
Into the rose-garden. My words echo
Thus, in your mind.
But to what purpose
Disturbing the dust on a bowl of rose-leaves
I do not know.
– T.S. Eliot, Burnt Norton
 
Spare a thought to the Polish farmer snapping pics of a missile wreckage – later indicated to belong to a Ukrainian S-300. So a Polish farmer, his footfalls echoing in our collective memory, may have saved the world from WWIII – unleashed via a tawdry plot concocted by Anglo-American “intelligence”.
 
Such tawdriness was compounded by a ridiculous cover-up: the Ukrainians were firing on Russian missiles from a direction that they could not possibly be coming from. That is: Poland. And then the U.S. Secretary of Defense, weapons peddler Lloyd “Raytheon” Austin, sentenced Russia was to blame anyway, because his Kiev vassals were shooting at Russian missiles that should not have been in the air (and they were not).
 
Call it the Pentagon elevating bald lying into a rather shabby art.
 
The Anglo-American purpose of this racket was to generate a “world crisis” against Russia. It’s been exposed – this time. That does not mean the usual suspects won’t try it again. Soon.
 
The main reason is panic.
Collective West intel sees how Moscow is finally mobilizing their army – ready to hit the ground next month – while knocking out Ukraine’s electricity infrastructure as a form of Chinese torture.
 
Those February days of sending only 100,000 troops – and having the DPR and LPR militias plus Wagner commandos and Kadyrov’s Chechens do most of the heavy lifting – are long gone. Overall, Russians and Russophones were facing hordes of Ukrainian military – perhaps as many as 1 million. The “miracle” of it all is that Russians did quite well.
 
Every military analyst knows the basic rule: an invasion force should number three times the defending force. The Russian Army at the start of the SMO was at a small fraction of that rule. The Russian Armed Forces arguably have a standing army of 1.3 million troops. Surely they could have spared a few tens of thousands more than the initial 100,000. But they did not. It was a political decision.
 
But now SMO is over: this is CTO (Counter-Terrorist Operation) territory.
A sequence of terrorist attacks – targeting the Nord Streams, the Crimea Bridge, the Black Sea Fleet – finally demonstrated the inevitability of going beyond a mere “military operation”.
 
And that brings us to Electric War.
 
Paving the way to a DMZ
 
The Electric War is being handled essentially as a tactic – leading to the eventual imposition of Russia’s terms in a possible armistice (which neither Anglo-American intel and vassal NATO want).
 
Even if there was an armistice – widely touted for a few weeks now – that would not end the war. Because the deeper, tacit Russian terms – end of NATO expansion and “indivisibility of security” – were fully spelled out to both Washington and Brussels last December, and subsequently dismissed.
 
As nothing – conceptually – has changed since then, coupled with the Western weaponization of Ukraine reaching a frenzy, the Putin-era Stavka could not but expand the initial SMO mandate, which remains denazification and demilitarization. Yet now the mandate will have to encompass Kiev and Lviv.
 
And that starts with the current de-electrification campaign – which goes way beyond the east of the Dnieper and along the Black Sea coast towards Odessa.

 
That brings us to the key issue of reach and depth of Electric War, in terms of setting up what would be a DMZ – complete with no man’s land – west of the Dnieper to protect Russian areas from NATO artillery, HIMARS and missile attacks.
 
How deep? 100 km? Not enough. Rather 300 km – as Kiev has already requested artillery with that kind of range.
 
What’s crucial is that way back in July this was already being extensively discussed in Moscow at the highest Stavka levels.
 
In an extensive July interview, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov let the cat – diplomatically – out of the bag:
 
“This process continues, consistently and persistently. It will continue as long as the West, in its impotent rage, desperate to aggravate the situation as much as possible, continues to flood Ukraine with more and more long-range weapons. Take the HIMARS. Defense Minister Alexey Reznikov boasts that they have already received 300-kilometre ammunition. This means our geographic objectives will move even further from the current line. We cannot allow the part of Ukraine that Vladimir Zelensky, or whoever replaces him, will control to have weapons that pose a direct threat to our territory or to the republics that have declared their independence and want to determine their own future.”
 
The implications are clear.
 
As much as Washington and NATO are even more “desperate to aggravate the situation as much as possible” (and that’s Plan A: there’s no Plan B), geoeconomically the Americans are intensifying the New Great Game: desperation here applies to trying to control energy corridors and setting their price.
 
Russia remains unfazed – as it continues to invest in Pipelineistan (towards Asia); solidify the multimodal International North South Transportation Corridor (INTSC), with key partners India and Iran; and is setting the price of energy via OPEC+.
 
A paradise for oligarchic looters
 
The Straussians/neo-cons and neoliberal-cons permeating the Anglo-American intel/security apparatus – de facto weaponized viruses – won’t relent. They simply cannot afford losing yet another NATO war – and on top of it against “existential threat” Russia.
 
As the news from the Ukraine battlefields promise to be even grimmer under General Winter, solace at least may be found in the cultural sphere. The Green transition racket, seasoned in a toxic mixed salad with the eugenist Silicon Valley ethos, continues to be a side dish offered with the main course: the Davos “Great Narrative”, former Great Reset, which reared its ugly head, once again, at the G20 in Bali.
 
That translates as everything going swell as far as the Destruction of Europe project is concerned. De-industrialize and be happy; rainbow-dance to every woke tune on the market; and freeze and burn wood while blessing “renewables” in the altar of European values.
 
A quick flashback to contextualize where we are is always helpful.
 
Ukraine was part of Russia for nearly four centuries. The very idea of its independence was invented in Austria during WWI for the purpose of undermining the Russian Army – and that certainly happened. The present “independence” was set up so local Trotskyite oligarchs could loot the nation as a Russia-aligned government was about to move against those oligarchs.
 
The 2014 Kiev coup was essentially set up by Zbig “Grand Chessboard” Brzezinski to draw Russia into a new partisan war – as in Afghanistan – and was followed by orders to the Gulf oil haciendas to crash the oil price. Moscow had to protect Russophones in Crimea and Donbass – and that led to more Western sanctions. All of it was a setup.
 
For 8 years, Moscow refused to send its armies even to Donbass east of the Dnieper (historically part of Mother Russia). The reason: not to be bogged down in another partisan war. The rest of Ukraine, meanwhile, was being looted by oligarchs supported by the West, and plunged into a financial black hole.
 
The collective West deliberately chose not to finance the black hole.
Most of the IMF injections were simply stolen by the oligarchs, and the loot transferred out of the country. These oligarchic looters were of course “protected” by the usual suspects.
 
It’s always crucial to remember that between 1991 and 1999 the equivalent of the present entire household wealth of Russia was stolen and transferred overseas, mostly to London. Now the same usual suspects are trying to ruin Russia with sanctions, as “new Hitler” Putin stopped the looting.
 
The difference is that the plan of using Ukraine as just a pawn in their game is not working.

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Psychos run the world inbred, evil psychos. Depopulation is a goal. Endless wars, bio-weapons, bad medicine , no cures, contaminated food supply.
Why were Schwabb and Gates at G20? Who elected these evil oligarchs to a meeting of world leaders, they are just super rich pricks, financing destruction and death.
Russia just wanted to be left alone, wants no part of this woke western insanity. The Selected “leaders” have no desire to negotiate a peace and will destroy their countries to prove it.

So your plan is to ignore the one who has invaded Ukraine, in preparation for further expansion and the domination of Europe?

Anyone looking for a real-world example of a mind-controlled, authoritarian police state has only to consider Putin’s Russia. That’s what he intends to expand by military force. Stop him now, or there will be hell to pay later.

Zelensky fired a missile into Poland killing 2 innocent farmers, They are a member of NATO we should be bombing the Fuck out of them for attacking an ally not giving them more money to launder out of Ukraine. The insane bastard tried to start WW3, before that called for NATO to premptively Nuke Russia. Fuck him not another damn dime. You go over there and be a mercenary if you are so hep to kill Russians, go on coward buy the ticket.

Welcome to the Pro-Trumputin Sock Puppet Show.

Gee Greg its in the agreement if a member of Nato is attacked we must defend them with all the might and power of our Military.
You wanna kill Ruskies go do it fool quit your keyboard bravado and gird thy loins.

Dirtbag zelensky intentionally bombed Poland

A sock puppet is an account used by several people.

That’s the “greg” account you’re using now.

You’re a sockpuppet.

Greg, the “it’s just Putin and he’s Hitler and he did this in a vacuum and kill Putin, war’s over” idiocy is dispelled.

Move on.

This war was caused by the West.

America/NATO could end this war tomorrow.

Stop him now, or there will be hell to pay later.

Ukrainians are paying that hell for the billions laundered and siphoned from their own resources by people like our own dictator, Joe Biden.

The Bill is coming due for these people.

Anyone looking for a real-world example of a mind-controlled, authoritarian police state has only to consider Putin’s Russia

No. That’s literally happening in the US and Europe.

Malthus had a few ways to depopulate the planet, and the WEF is following it to a tee.

Disease – Released Covid-19
Famine – Forced ESG measures that will literally reduce food production and starve Billions.
Not having kids – LGBT, abortion, and getting third world people across the border so they have more money and less kids.
War – They caused this war in Ukraine, which is only INCREASING the crisis in Germany and other places, not helping.

The sanctions are hurting the West more than Russia.

By design…

If you weren’t such a coward, you’d respond to this.

You defend China as a good model for society (the WEF agrees).
You push WEF propaganda.
You RANKLE whenever the idea of birthing healthy babies comes up.

You are a WEF disinformation pig, and we know it.

You seem to be very focused on the idea of having more and more people on Earth.

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You seem to be very focused on the idea of having more and more people on Earth.

Deflections and exaggerations when I score a telling blow.

The WEF, and the Left ARE focused on the idea of having less people on the planet…which is genocidal.

“Deflections and exaggerations”

Neither. You’ve railed many times against the conspiracy you believe to be aimed at reducing the world’s population. I’m genuinely interested in why the idea of cutting back the number of people on Earth bothers you so much.

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Apropos of nothing, but thanks for sharing, I guess.

I’m genuinely interested in why the idea of cutting back the number of people on Earth bothers you so much.

Wow.

I’ll tell you why it’s wrong if you tell me why it’s right, first.

There are too many people if we’re going to continue to run our society the way we do. We use too many resources—many of them non-renewable—and we make too much waste.

There are too many people living in places that can’t naturally support vast numbers of people. Las Vegas, just to take one example, is not a place that can naturally support over a half-million people living the way we do. The same holds true for Los Angeles.

Eight billion people is too many. If birthrates gradually dropped over the course of time, it would be a good thing.

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There are too many people if we’re going to continue to run our society the way we do. We use too many resources—many of them non-renewable—and we make too much waste.

Wow. “Run society the way we do…” WTF?

There are too many people living in places that can’t naturally support vast numbers of people. Las Vegas, just to take one example, is not a place that can naturally support over a half-million people living the way we do. The same holds true for Los Angeles.

Wow. Yes, nearly EVERY PLACE ON THE PLANET can’t naturally support vast numbers of people. That’s why we have agriculture and technology. W…T…F?

Eight billion people is too many. If birthrates gradually dropped over the course of time, it would be a good thing.

Wow. “…it would be a good thing.” To who, exactly??? W T actual F????

At least I know what Cult you’re really in now.

Genocidal, as I said. You just think if you commit genocide through abortion and “climate initiatives” you’re just taking care of the planet.

I also believe you people really, really don’t understand the evil you’re committing, or are aware of the demonic forces in control of your mind.

Humans solve problems. We nearly ended world hunger before Covid was released by your higher-ranking cult members, and we can definitely support even more people on the planet.

Who exactly, are you to tell people they shouldn’t exist “for the good of the planet” or to “run society”. You’re not elected, and neither are Schwab or the other runts that have infected our national leadership?

Humans solve problems.

To you, Humans ARE the problem. That’s a real problem.

You said you’d tell me why you’re against reducing the human population of the planet. You say that the idea is evil. Why?

You said you’d tell me why reducing the planets population was good.

You haven’t.

Why?

Why is less people the answer to…whatever invented problem the globalist cult is pushing this week?

What evidence do you have the planet is failing, and that we have too many people on the planet to support?

What EVIDENCE do you have other than “it’s a good idea?”

The way Western civilization works right now is simply horrible for the environment. Some examples:

The Colorado River is being drained for use by people in cities and on farms far, far away from the river itself. The reservoir created by damming it is nearly 150 feet lower than it was in the past.

If they don’t have water for irrigation near where they live, maybe they shouldn’t live there. Look at the Nile River. Notice how the irrigated part of Egypt is right next to the river. Nobody is draining the Nile in order to pump the water into the middle of the Sahara Desert so people can have green lawns in the middle of summer. Maybe we should start thinking the same way.

Waste disposal is a problem that gets worse as each year goes by. We happen to not see it, because we’re wealthy enough that our garbage gets taken someplace where we don’t have to look at it, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not a problem. Not only are landfills not getting emptied; the rate at which garbage is generated worldwide is speeding up. Landfills close regularly because they’re full.

Entire species have gone extinct at our hand, and the problem gets worse as we cut down and pave over areas that used to be animal habitat. Who are we to decide that an entire species doesn’t get to exist any more? I’m not talking about natural extinctions; I’m talking about extinctions caused entirely by humans.

Microplastics have been found on the highest peaks on Earth and at the lowest depths of the ocean that people have visited. They’re also being found in the digestive tracts of more and more animals around the world.

Garbage covers the peak of Mt. Everest, and countless piles of human shit dot the ground at the staging areas of the mountain.

That’s just a random list.

The way that we run our society now—with internal combustion engines, with more and more packaging and more and more plastic, with modes of agriculture that leach poisonous pesticides and herbicides into the aquifer, with no thought about how we could trim back our waste and our excessive use of resources—is simply not compatible with the idea of having more and more billions of people on the planet. Perhaps it could work with fewer people; it doesn’t seem likely, but I don’t know.

I don’t know why you persist in jumping to the idea of genocide, aside from the possibility that it gives you little frissons of excitement to contemplate. It’s possible to gradually have fewer people on Earth without killing anyone.

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That’s not an explanation, nor a justification.

It’s a statement of faith.

It’s possible to gradually have fewer people on Earth without killing anyone.

I’m afraid your making more of an assumption than you think.

Trans and abortion about your genocidal ends. They kill people before they are born…but, um….indeed, no one “technically” getting killed, right?

We have now millions dead by a man made virus that was released for just such a purpose. When the WEF clowns keep saying “the next pandemic,” they aren’t guessing. They are planning.

Millions are slated to die of hunger because of the ESG measures that literally sent us backwards in agriculture.

ALL of the things you reference in your screed about pollution are things we can figure out, and fix.

You’re part of small group of people who think they can save the world…by killing off everyone else.

You’re part of small group of people who think they can save the world…by killing off everyone else.

People who complain that the world is over-populated never seem to think they should be the ones to stop contributing to that over-population.

That was my next question.

No. You tell me why it’s wrong.

The usual cowardice from you. It’s self evident why you don’t want to kill of the population and why you don’t illegally institute measures to kill people with starvation, released viruses, intended wars, and abortion.

You know your argument is weak, and will be destroyed the minute you type it.

That’s why you won’t just say what you really believe, son.

It’s self evident why you don’t want to kill of the population and why you don’t illegally institute measures to kill people with starvation, released viruses, intended wars, and abortion.

If it’s self-evident why I don’t want to do that, why do you persist in saying that I do want to do that?

That’s why you won’t just say what you really believe, son.

I say it in exhaustive detail up above. While you were typing your comment about how I’m not going to explain my ideas, I was busy typing my own comment explaining my ideas.

That’s just a random list.

It’s not a reason to advocate for population reduction, either by direct or indirect means.

We have a word for that. It’s called genocide, and there’s NOTHING new about it.

From Pharoah deciding “The Jews were too many” to Hitler deciding the same, no sane person thinks this WEF scheme is noble or “saving the planet.”

“We” being the local whackadoodle sock puppet choir.

You obviously don’t understand what a sockpuppet is.

Sure. Americans live in a Democrat police state, while Putin’s Russia is the free and home of the brave.

No. That’s literally happening in the US and Europe.

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One side is working on it.

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Lest us not forget their ultimate goal, it’s achieved inch by inch.

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The far right has been infected with batshit crazy conspiracy theories for decades.

All of which have been invented by the Marxist left

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How appropriate for the thief he and his family are.

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So?

The funny thing is “the Far Right” is in of itself a batshit crazy conspiracy theory.

The Left still hasn’t actually found these “far-right” strawmen that don’t exist.

“The Left still hasn’t actually found these ‘far-right’ strawmen that don’t exist.”

They’re all over: anyone who posts Q conspiracies; anyone who believes that our government should be guided by the Bible; anyone who argues in favor of flying the Confederate flag; anyone who feels that the Republican Party is too far left. That’s just for starters.

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What are you trying to prove here?

Use your words instead of other people’s Twitter feeds, Curt. You can do it! I have faith in you!

What are you trying to prove here?

I think you just proved it. You mindless leftists believe any anti-right conspiracy you are fed and you can’t even see it. You keep yourselves ignorant and you LIKE to be ignorant.

The fact that Lefties believe conspiracy theories does not in any way argue against the idea that there is a far-Right in the United States. And a bunch of second-hand tweets absolutely do not prove Nathan’s assertion that the far Right does not exist—if that’s what Curt was trying to prove. That’s what was going on in the side discussion where he shared those tweets; if that’s not the point he was trying to prove, then he needs to use his words like a big boy and make things clear.

There is, of course, a far right in the United States. It simply isn’t as large and influential as you leftists want to believe it is. In fact, it is probably one of the least powerful and influential political groups in the country. The far left, however, rules the Democrat party and they promote, with the help of the corrupt liberal media, one conspiracy theory after another.

What Curt PROVED was that the left lies incessantly and their lies find a lot of fans and followers. Their lies, amplified by the media, cause grave harm to the nation. Yet you look upon a list of destructive lies YOU YOURSELF have bought into and promoted and wonder what it is all about.

Why don’t you just wise the F**K up?

“There is, of course, a far right in the United States.”

You’d better tell Nathan, because he disagrees. He says, “The funny thing is ‘the Far Right’ is in of itself a batshit crazy conspiracy theory.”

Mitch McConnell is on the Right. Liz Cheney is on the Right. Aside from her participation on the January 6 committee, everything she stands for is the opposite of what I stand for, and I’m a Lefty.

Anybody who has dismissed McConnell and the Republican Party as essentially indistinguishable from the Democratic Party is on the *far* Right.

That’s MAGA. MAGA is far Right.

If McConnell and Cheney are too liberal for you, you’re far Right.

I honestly don’t know why you’re running away from the label.

The point is that, like all tyannies, the “far-right” moniker is a joke. It’s just another “Jews are rats” kind of bigotry.

Again with the victimhood, and nobody has victimized you.

Denigrating a group because they threaten your illegal power base isn’t them saying they are “a victim.”

It’s them putting you on notice.

Victimization is the Left’s stock and trade. You’ve played the victim here, for months.

So tell me why you’re against any reduction to the number of humans on the planet.

Someone has to explain to you why they might be against “reduction of the number of humans”? Unless you say “slow the increase in population”, you ARE an idiot.

Because people are good and it’s good to have a planet with people on it who get to grow, love, and have families.

Now you.

Why are you against allowing humans to procreate and live?

When are you planning on leaving to help out? Since you care so much. I’m sure you can get all your friends and relatives to come along. We’ll all remember you fondly for your sacrifice.

Again with the victimhood, and nobody has victimized you.

You just did; you accused everyone to the right of Liz Cheney to be far right. You accused everyone that is sick of self interest running this country is far right. You are a fool.

You’re aware that “far Right” just means “very conservative,” right? Just as “far Left” means “very liberal.”

So if the far Right doesn’t exist because it’s nothing but “a batshit crazy conspiracy theory,” per Nathan—and you say that “MAGA is right in the center”—then there’s nothing at all at the Right end of the political spectrum. It’s empty. There are, in your telling, no very conservative people.

That’s really weird. There are clearly people in the center, and there are people at the center-left, and there are full-on Lefties, and there are people at the far Left end of the spectrum, but, in your mind, once you start moving to the Right, the political spectrum ends in the center, with MAGA.

There used to be people at the far Right-hand side side of the spectrum, just as there are people at the far Left-hand side of the spectrum. Where did they go?

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You simply have a delusional, propagandized, imaginary vision of what MAGA is. You don’t care to know the truth; you simply have to visualize MAGA as worse than the fascist, socialist, violent, hateful left you endorse.

No. The term “far-right” and “alt-right” and all of it are manufactured labels meant to scare the Leftists “base” into thinking they are besieged by a mob of toothless, cisgendered white males with Confederate flags so they don’t question why they have become a mob of LGBT, low-education, high-activism mob with actual pride flag trying to surround innocent people who have nothing to do with a stereotype pulled from 1983.

Nah. I know what I mean when I use the phrase “far Right,” and it’s not that.

“I know what I mean when I use the phrase “far Right,”

And yet you haven’t identified it adequately, instead going for a bunch of nebulous “they are Q” or “they wave a Confederate Flag” or some such nonsense that makes no sense.

It’s on the level of a racial slur, the idiocy you spout.

Again, knowing now that the term “far-right” is a regime-media construct meant to denigrate it’s opponents with things that can’t really be defined, what do you mean when you say “far-right?”

What is “far-right” to you? And why would your definition of “far-right” be anyone else’s?

Live your truth, michael. Don’t hold back.

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 He says, “The funny thing is ‘the Far Right’ is in of itself a batshit crazy conspiracy theory.”

Again with your straw man. He’s saying exactly what I am. It’s another of your conspiracy theories. The left is violent, racist, terroristic and fascist, so they invent this fantasy of the far right being a threat to national security.

MAGA is not far right. MAGA is right in the center. MAGA is where anyone that loves this country, wants people to prosper and advance, wants people to be safe and the nation secure should be.

Obviously, you are not intelligent enough to separate yourself from the lemming crowd and see the truth. You consume nothing but left and far left propaganda, ignore the political violence and terrorism characteristic of the left, ignore the disaster brought upon the nation by idiot Biden’s (his puppet masters) policies and accept the proven lies you are told as fact. How do you expect to be taken seriously? Resign from the useful idiot job.

You haven’t defined what the “far-right” is.

I’m still waiting.

The fact that you didn’t read my definition doesn’t mean that I didn’t provide it. As I say in another comment, “If McConnell and Cheney are too liberal for you, you’re far Right.”

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Good luck with the genocide, michael. I don’t the men of your…ilk…really understand what you are doing.

But you’ll find out the hard way.

You’re wrong. He did. It’s anyone that disagrees with his leftist ideology of socialism, fascism and totalitarianism. He made that quite clear. If you are to the right of leftists who use propaganda as a political weapon, you are far right.

So you’d destroy over half the country by making them your “Jews” because you’re still prescribing to that “religion hurt me” meme they fed you back in the 80s?

Weak.

The Left just want to kill off those who disagree with them, while blaming their victims.

The only people who talk about “Q” are Leftists. It’s a Leftwing contagion.Our government is already guided, and written in line with, the Bible. It’s not compatible with Athiest religiousity, because for Atheists, there are NO morals or ethics. No basis, no primacy. They refute this, but don’t understand tolerating LGBT is on the road to tolerating murder, theft (already in CA), really anything. It’s bedlam.No one significantly flys the Confederate Flag, but many fly the treasonous “pride” and “trans” flags. Why do they need a flag? They already have one. Are they trying to set up their own country on the back of another one, by destoying it’s history, attacking it’s religion, and overall trying to indoctrinate it’s kids?Yes.

There are none of the strawmen the Left wish desperately for, and in their “tolerance” they’ve become the bloodthirsty bigots they are trying to conjure.

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“The only people who talk about ‘Q’ are Leftists.”

Michael Flynn posted a video of himself taking an oath to Q.

I can understand full well why you’d want to distance your side from Q-inspired nuttery, but it won’t be that easy.

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I can understand full well why you’d want to distance your side from Q-inspired nuttery, but it won’t be that easy.

It’s not as bad as Blue-anon, which is nothing but lies fed to morons.

It’s not as bad as Blue-anon, which is nothing but lies fed to morons.

That has nothing to do with the existence, or lack thereof, of a far-Right in the United States.

Michael Flynn posted a video of himself takibg an oath to Q.

Can you post an affirming link of that action for all the LIVs on this site?

That has nothing to do with the existence, or lack thereof, of a far-Right in the United States.

Which is it? Do you think the “far-Right” exists or doesn’t exist? What do you consider “far-Right?”

Can you post an affirming link of that action for all the LIVs on this site?

https://youtu.be/XE-uBCT4i6g

“Where we go one, we go all.”

Which is it? Do you think the “far-Right” exists or doesn’t exist?

Have you read the thread? I’ve made my position on that clear.

What do you consider “far-Right?”

Have you read the thread? I’ve listed several specific things that fall into that category.

AFTER the oath ended he added those words, “where we go one, we go all,” not DURING the oath.
It was private, PROTECTED free speech.
You may have heard of it.
You know, written by all those old white men your side despises.

“It was private, PROTECTED free speech.”

Who said it wasn’t? He’s free to be a Q nut. Just don’t try to pretend he isn’t.

Whoever was speaking those words, if it even was Gen. Flynn, mentioned the Constitution, not Q-Anon.

But then, leftists believed ANTIFA was not real.

Haha. Flynn had dirt on Obama, so they illegally entrapped and invented charges on him.

The new “fundamentally transformed” America.

Just another dictatorship like Putin and Xi.

Brilliant. But yes, please yell “squirrel!” and talk about the Leftist “Q” organization.

Groomer, your video never shows Gen. Flynn. If Gen. Flynn was leading the pledge, why wasn’t he shown on the video? Do you even know where that pledge comes from?
You really are a dumass.

Now, how about a real answer from you on what you consider “far-Right” instead of your usual obfuscation?

I’ve already answered that twice in this thread. If you’re too lazy read what I’ve already written, then I don’t know what to say.

You’re “answer” was not an answer. It was a meme generated by the Deep State, and it’s been dispelled.

I’m not the lazy one. It is you, Groomer, who is refusing to answer a question, choosing once again and in typical leftist mode, to obfuscate instead of just giving an answer.

You clearly suffer from anal-cranial disease.

You haven’t. You conjured some weak “Q” and confederate flag nonsense, but you’ve not defined what “far-right” actually is.

I’ll tell you since you either are lying or it’s buried in your subconscious.

FAR RIGHT IS ANYTHING THAT THE CURRENT DEEP STATE REGIME FINDS A THREAT TO IT’S POWER.

Full stop.

Science-denier, racist, homophobe, it really doesn’t matter the term.

What they mean is “those who don’t bow to our ideology and our installed power.”

So?

There’s no “far-right” It’s an invented term so Leftists can marginalize and ultimately destroy their political opposition.

This has been done in every tyrannical takeover and occupation of a people, from Herod to Mao.

You might want to read about Sodom and Gemorrah instead of trifling with rare videos that you think back up your need to create a dangerous underclass that needs to be wiped out.

Wow. That’s a scary looking bunch. I’m sure antifa would steer clear of them.

Tell me what the “far right” is doing to the nation right now. It is nothing but a boogeyman you leftists have created far beyond their actual influence and abilities in order to villainize the entire non-leftist population.

The far Right is MAGA. Whatever shit MAGA is up to, that’s what the far Right is up to.

The far Right is MAGA. Whatever shit MAGA is up to, that’s what the far Right is up to.

Uh huh. That’s the failing Leftist/Deep State narrative because they don’t control “MAGA.”

MAGA is merely those of us who believe the People are in the control of the country, not a wayward Federal Government that’s breaking the rules on it’s mandate and rendering itself both illegal, and tyrannical.

Hell, I’m as Liberal as they come…but tried to explain to those falling for the Leftist Cult that Liberal DO NOT suddenly give the government trust and power because they suddenly seem to support Liberal ideals.

That’s not liberal at all.

I can understand full well why you’d want to distance your side from Q-inspired nuttery, but it won’t be that easy.

Q is a blanket term used by and invented by Leftists to just called sane, rational observations “crazy” because they’ve been caught.

The only people who talk about ‘Q’ are Leftists.

Those that claim to care about “groups” and “minorities” seem to do a lot in inventing groups they can marginalize…and ultimately kill off.

Q
MAGA
Far-Right
Undesirables
Jews
Deplorables

No one is fitting in your genocide box today. You’ll have to be the one to drag us off to the railcars, but you’d rather let starvation be your Zyclon B.

That’s why you’ve already failed. You don’t know how to get your hands dirty, and it’s the weak jealously of weak men who have summoned this standard and Biblical set of false gods that are just the same old tripe.

There’s nothing new under the Sun. “Depopulation” in the name of saving resources for other elites to enjoy just might be the oldest one of them all.

that “religion hurt me” meme they fed you back in the 80s?

I don’t even really know what you’re talking about here. Tell me more about the 80s.

Angry Greta Thunberg Sues Her Home Country Sweden for its Lackluster Climate Change Policies

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Elon Musk to release all internal documents on censorship of Hunter Biden…

Why do you believe that I give a rat’s ass about Hunter Biden? If he broke the law, lock him up.

The story is about how Joe Biden broke the law and used his son.

We WILL lock up Biden…but he’s a installed puppet in our now-authoritarian regime…so he’s protected.

Why bother? You’re still living there.

That’s easier than trying to invent an answer, I guess.

Well then you’re used to it.

BTW, this week at our church, we helped 5 women who were going to have an abortion NOT do that, and now have their children who can have rich, loving life here on a planet we continue to steward and continue to master in the way of agriculture, tech, and society…making food and life for Billions already here, and for Billions to come.

Little victories against you genocidal clowns.

Your Malthusian sh*t-show is going to fail.

You’ll never respond to this.

Coward.

That’s easier than trying to invent an answer, I guess.

You have a habit of projecting.

Oh you mean like Trump/Russia collusion? You are still infected with that one. Pot meet kettle

Sure. Americans live in a Democrat police state,

Pretty much.

But no, Putin is an unelected dictator using rigged elections to declare he’s “elected.”

Just like Biden.

Russia is winning the war.

Russia’s economy is doing better than the West.

Russia hasn’t even committed it’s full resources yet, and has not “suffered major losses.”

America and NATO countries destabilized Ukraine and installed a puppet regime. Zelenskyy is that current puppet.

American criminals like Biden were caught using their office to get rich in Ukraine.

This war was caused by those corrupt and basically un-elected politicians like Biden and Pelosi, and their WEF masters.

America/NATO could end this war tomorrow.

Putin is not crazy. This isn’t “one guy.” This is the consequence for trying to build a globalist hegemony on the backs of unelected crazies like Klaus Schwab who want us to be serfs who eat bugs.

Possibly, but it would be very risky. That’s why NATO has only been providing material support.

America/NATO could end this war tomorrow.

That’s why NATO has only been providing material support.

You’re a liar. NO ONE in the world thinks this, as it’s generally accepted that NATO is actively fighting Russians on the ground.

So are US soldiers.

If it is true that the Russian army can have it’s tail kicked by the crooked Ukrainians, why the hell do we still have troops in Germany and other European nations?

As I’ve pointed out before, if NATO troops were in Ukraine as active military units, we would know about it. Unlike Putin’s Russia, such information couldn’t be locked down in the Western democracies. Every NATO soldier there would be a leak to social media.

As I’ve pointed out before, if NATO troops were in Ukraine as active military units, we would know about it.

As I’ve pointed out before, we already do. You’re just lying and you know it.

It’s generally known that NATO troops are actively fighting in Ukraine. No one but YOU and the regimes sending troops are saying otherwise.

such information couldn’t be locked down in the Western democracies.

It IS locked down, because the US and other Western nations are no longer democracies.

Every NATO soldier there would be a leak to social media.

That’s absurd.

Klaus Schwab is the nazi commander

Klaus is married to a Rothschild he is doing anothers bidding.

America is currently losing the Third World War on multiple fronts

(Natural News) The United States is currently losing the Third World War, and almost all of America’s leaders have no clue that they are even in a war. This is the weakest, most helpless position to be in as a country. The Nation has never been more divided, more vulnerable to the terrorizing influence of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Politicians and media pundits are completely oblivious to the stealth war currently being waged by the CCP. This war is explained well in the exclusive documentary – The Final War: The 100-Year Plot to Defeat America.

CCP sees covid-19 as an opportunity to dominate the West in a new World War

The Xin Huan News Agency, the official channel of the CCP, declares that “war is all encompassing.” The CCP viewed America’s medical system, its information channels, its supply chains, and Strategic National Stockpile as a battle ground. “This is a medical war, a security war, but also a psychological war,” the news agency declared. “Panic will result in the collapse of the Western stock market. War inevitably changes the world order.”

On August 1, 2020, Jin Canrong, top CCP strategist, spoke: “In our international relations circle, we have defined it – the pandemic – as the first unconventional security world war of mankind. It has had a wide impact on the world economy and international politics.”

“World War I and World War II have completely changed the international order and triggered innovations in technology and revolutions in society,” the CCP proclaims. “The unconventional World War III will, with no doubt, have a similar profound impact on the scientific and technological revolution and the world order.”

Di Dongsheng, Professor and vice dean of the school of international relations at Renmin University of China, called the covid-19 pandemic: “the battle for China’s ascension to the center of the world stage.” He declared, “We know that the rise of great powers requires wars. This time it’s reasonably China’s turn. One hundred years is normally a cycle. It’s China’s turn now. What is certain, is that the United States has officially lost its global leadership this time.”

Hang Weiwei, Director of the Institute of China Studies at Fudan University, declared: “We will find that we are in 100 years of unprecedented changes, 100 years of unprecedented opportunities. Everywhere is our opportunity. We should plan and then move. When it is time to strike, we must strike.”

China’s lockdowns and population control became the model of oppression in Western Nations

When a pneumonia of “unknown etiology” was first discovered in Wuhan, China on December 31, 2019, the CCP saw an opportunity to not only oppress the Chinese people but also to wage a war of terror on the rest of the world. In many ways, leaders of Western Nations followed in China’s bloody footsteps, oppressing their populations with terror and lockdowns, state-run propaganda, and police state power. This faithless oppression and political violence targeted places of worship, while pushing for riots in the streets.

The states most influenced by Chinese communism became terror cells. Pro Chinese communist unions shut down the schools and drove small businesses into lock down, while exercising their sordid influence over democratic governors and politicians to keep shutdowns going as long as possible. The CCP has the most influence in New York, Washington, California, Oregon, Hawaii, and Massachusetts, and this influence really showed over the past three years, for these were the states where children were abused the most, where shutdowns lasted the longest and were very strict, where law and order and Constitutional law were suspended.

Over the past three years, the America that once was became a shell of its former self – its people donning Chinese masks everywhere they went, its young generation toppling history and doing away with freedom of speech. Grown American adults lined up to get their nose and mouth swabbed, as their DNA was sold to the CCP so they could continue to build newer bioweapons that target vulnerabilities in the population. Meanwhile, no strong leader in the US stood up to these abuses.

Instead, American leaders continue to emulate the CCP, succumbing to these global abuses of power and modeling faithlessness and cruelty to one another. Who knew that America would become a place where the federal government went against its own people – threatening their lives, their careers, and livelihoods over a fake vaccine that further weakens population immunity? America’s regulatory agencies and Department of Defense (DOD) enforced the fraud and terror, punishing their own military with unlawful vaccine mandates, swabs, and mask theater.

An entire American political party (Democrats) routinely uses the terror to their advantage now, destroying the integrity of state election systems in specific counties. Democrats have turned election day into election week, and in some cases, election month, with their ballot harvesting operations, unverified mail-in ballots, ballot drop boxes, and chain-of-custody issues that have turned America’s election process into that of a third world country.

On top of that, the CCP now controls the corporate media in America. Americans are labeled “extremists” and “terrorists” if they don’t vote for the new Democrat uni-party that is full of cowardly, brain-dead puppets that will do whatever the CCP wants them to do. It is time that both American political parties wake up to the threat they are up against. It’s time for the American people to stand by Constitutional principles, act rationally, and prepare American industry and energy for the next phase of the Third World War.

A Ukraine as demilitarized zone is as useless as the French Maginot Line in WWII.
The REAL battle is between the WEF countries: USA, Canada, Western Europe, Japan, Australia and New Zealand VERSUS the BRICS alliance: all the rest of the planet.
WEF’s “Build Back Better” programs are turning their countries into service economies that all rely on BRICS for manufactured goods.
That’s only going to work as long as things are peaceful between the two factions.
BUT BRICS is on the verge of creating their own Gold Standard for the value of their currency.
The WEF countries are all in debt so bad that they must continue to rely on the USDollar standrd.
A little, physical DMZ (Ukraine) is just a distraction form this bigger picture.
The old men “elites” of the WEF think they can win world domination but even if they were to depopulate 2/3rds of the people in their great cull they will still lose.
All China has to do is quit selling us medicines (OOPS, they are already doing just that.)
All India has to do is refuse to create electric vehicles for the WEF countries (which European EV companies are begging them to make.)
All Russia had to do was quit selling energy to Europe.

The WEF pipe dream is falling to crap.
We have medicine shortages. https://nypost.com/2022/11/23/us-faces-shortages-of-antibiotics-flu-drugs-amid-tripledemic/
We can’t afford to manufacture green vehicles.

Cleaving Beginning? – Climate Change Policy Makes Europe Too Expensive for Low-Cost EV Manufacturing

We are dying in the cold and dark in our own homes.

Europeans risk death by cold for green folly — and we could be next

That’s actually their plan. To kill off Billions while letting it look like Covid, famine, and economic collapse did it.

THEY did it. It’s indirect genocide, and they think it’s right. Just look at how michael and greg go off on “there’s too many people on the planet!” when you bring it up.

The Malthusian Death Cult is in full bloom right now, but will be stopped.

Michael wants to hijack the thread and make it about General Flynn.

Odd that, off the top of my head, I could think of several instances where religious worshippers of the God of the Bible all used the phrase Mike’s so intent on limiting to “Q.”

Ruth: where you go I will go, and where you lodge I will lodge. Your people shall be my people, and your God my God. (Ruth 1:16.)
WAY before “Q.”
The motto ‘ One for all, and all for one ( Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno ), the motto of Dumas’ Three Musketeers, ( first published in 1844) and the traditional motto of Switzerland, has since become a motto for friendships.

More recently Bryan Adams and Rod Stewart sang a song called, “All for one and one for all.”Was the writer of that song a “Q” fan? Not that I know of and it was written decades before “Q’s” 1st appearance in print.

Now, did “Q,” adopt an old saying?
I don’t know.
A whole lot of stuff has been attributed to “Q.”
Doesn’t make everyone who expresses unity among associates part of some conspiracy.
Is Gen Flynn a strong Christian who doesn’t hide his light under a basket? Yeah.



The takeaway here is that Russia is openly combating the genocidal, tyrannical moves of the WEF.