Ukraine – Media Start To Acknowledge Reality

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by MoA

Finally some truth about the real state of the Ukrainian military is sneaking into main stream media. It is as bad, still not fully disclosed, as we have described it again and again.
 
As the Washington Post provides:
 
Ukraine short of skilled troops and munitions as losses, pessimism grow
 
I’ll leave out the propaganda bits and go for the factual beef. The quotes are long but needed to grasp the depth of horrible situation.
 
The opening paragraph:

The quality of Ukraine’s military force, once considered a substantial advantage over Russia, has been degraded by a year of casualties that have taken many of the most experienced fighters off the battlefield, leading some Ukrainian officials to question Kyiv’s readiness to mount a much-anticipated spring offensive.

That spring offensive is as likely to happen as the announced relief campaign to unblock Bakhmut. The later is bogged down in mud which will only become worse over the next few weeks.
 
The spring campaign will be made up of green recruits which will use a wild mix of weapons they are not familiar with. Unless there are some ‘western’ surprises I see no way how it can overwhelm the well prepared Russian defense lines.
 
Back to the piece:

[Á]n influx of inexperienced draftees, brought in to plug the losses, has changed the profile of the Ukrainian force, which is also suffering from basic shortages of ammunition, including artillery shells and mortar bombs, according to military personnel in the field.“The most valuable thing in war is combat experience,” said a battalion commander in the 46th Air Assault Brigade, who is being identified only by his call sign, Kupol, in keeping with Ukrainian military protocol. “A soldier who has survived six months of combat and a soldier who came from a firing range are two different soldiers. It’s heaven and earth.”
 
“And there are only a few soldiers with combat experience,” Kupol added. “Unfortunately, they are all already dead or wounded.”
 
Such grim assessments have spread a palpable, if mostly unspoken, pessimism from the front lines to the corridors of power in Kyiv, the capital.

Ukrainian losses, estimated to be nearer to 200,000 than to 100,000 dead with even more wounded, are especially felt at the lower command level. One can not just take a salesman or teacher from the street and put them into a junior command role.

Kupol said he was speaking out in hopes of securing better training for Ukrainian forces from Washington and that he hopes Ukrainian troops being held back for a coming counteroffensive will have more success than the inexperienced soldiers now manning the front under his command.“There’s always belief in a miracle,” he said. “Either it will be a massacre and corpses or it’s going to be a professional counteroffensive. There are two options. There will be a counteroffensive either way.”

It indeed will need a miracle for the counteroffensive to become anything but a massacre.

One senior Ukrainian government official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid, called the number of tanks promised by the West a “symbolic” amount. Others privately voiced pessimism that promised supplies would even reach the battlefield in time.“If you have more resources, you more actively attack,” the senior official said. “If you have fewer resources, you defend more. We’re going to defend. That’s why if you ask me personally, I don’t believe in a big counteroffensive for us. I’d like to believe in it, but I’m looking at the resources and asking, ‘With what?’ Maybe we’ll have some localized breakthroughs.”
 
“We don’t have the people or weapons,” the senior official added. “And you know the ratio: When you’re on the offensive, you lose twice or three times as many people. We can’t afford to lose that many people.”

The U.S. is not going to ask if the “Ukraine can afford the losses”. It will push for a large attack which will have little chance to even get out of its preparation phase.

Kupol, who consented to having his photograph taken and said he understood he could face personal blowback for giving a frank assessment, described going to battle with newly drafted soldiers who had never thrown a grenade, who readily abandoned their positions under fire and who lacked confidence in handling firearms.His unit withdrew from Soledar in eastern Ukraine in the winter after being surrounded by Russian forces who later captured the city. Kupol recalled how hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers in units fighting alongside his battalion simply abandoned their positions, even as fighters for Russia’s Wagner mercenary group pressed ahead.
 
After a year of war, Kupol, a lieutenant colonel, said his battalion is unrecognizable. Of about 500 soldiers, roughly 100 were killed in action and another 400 wounded, leading to complete turnover. Kupol said he was the sole military professional in the battalion, and he described the struggle of leading a unit composed entirely of inexperienced troops.
 
“I get 100 new soldiers,” Kupol said. “They don’t give me any time to prepare them. They say, ‘Take them into the battle.’ They just drop everything and run. That’s it. Do you understand why? Because the soldier doesn’t shoot. I ask him why, and he says, ‘I’m afraid of the sound of the shot.’ And for some reason, he has never thrown a grenade. … We need NATO instructors in all our training centers, and our instructors need to be sent over there into the trenches. Because they failed in their task.”
 
He described severe ammunition shortages, including a lack of simple mortar bombs and grenades for U.S.-made MK 19s.
 
…“You’re on the front line,” Kupol said. “They’re coming toward you, and there’s nothing to shoot with.”
 
Kupol said Kyiv needed to focus on better preparing new troops in a systematic way. “It’s like all we do is give interviews and tell people that we’ve already won, just a little bit further away, two weeks, and we’ll win,” he said.

Yes, Kiev, helped by ‘western’ media, is speaking of a victory that is unlikely to ever come. The view from the field is way different:

Dmytro, a Ukrainian soldier whom The Post is identifying only by first name for security reasons, described many of the same conditions. Some of the less-experienced troops serving at his position with the 36th Marine Brigade in the Donetsk region “are afraid to leave the trenches,” he said. Shelling is so intense at times, he said, that one soldier will have a panic attack, then “others catch it.”
 
The first time he saw fellow soldiers very shaken, Dmytro said, he tried to talk them through the reality of the risks. The next time, he said, they “just ran from the position.”
 
“I don’t blame them,” he said. “They were so confused.”

Yes, shell shock is real. Being under artillery fire is terrifying. Especially when you are a newbie, sit in a ditch without armor and with no way to respond to it.
 
Russian artillery supremacy is why Ukrainian losses are a multiple of those on the Russian side. But even if foot soldiers are available and well trained there is nothing that can make up for the loss of an army’s backbone:

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He described severe ammunition shortages, including a lack of simple mortar bombs and grenades for U.S.-made MK 19s.

 

…“You’re on the front line,” Kupol said. “They’re coming toward you, and there’s nothing to shoot with.”

Still Zelensky wants cash not munitions.
Even after his own wife and one top man’s wife were caught in foreign countries with MILLIONS in American cash as well as Euros.
What munitions do show up for Ukraine later turn up in the ME where Islamists use them against Israel and Christians in the area.

Not only the ME but drug cartels in Central and S America.
How long will the CIA tolerate El Salvadors President?

Trump, on Ukraine, and making deals with dictators:

<script><blockquote class=”twitter-tweet”><p lang=”en” dir=”ltr”>&quot;I could’ve made a deal to take over something, there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could’ve worked a deal.&quot; – Donald Trump.<br><br>The perfect idea to inspire dictators all over the world to invade other countries and have never-ending wars. <a href=”https://t.co/L3O76we90U”>pic.twitter.com/L3O76we90U</a></p>— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) <a href=”

8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src=”https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js” charset=”utf-8″></script>

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

Maybe he could also make a deal to give certain Spanish-speaking areas of the United States back to Mexico.

As states get closer and closer to pulling the plug on the federal government, the rhetoric from their propaganda outlets and bots is getting more and more irrational…and desperate.

There’s nothing liberal about big Banks, pro war, corporate collusion, and the intentional misstating of the truth for power.

The Biden regime isn’t going to make it the 2024.

We all pray to survive this leftist-caused calamity and rebuild our nation.

Last edited 1 year ago by Nathan Blue

Yet you want Donald Trump to BECOME the federal government. Maybe somebody should pull the plug of social media. It’s making people crazy.

As states get closer and closer to pulling the plug on the federal government, the rhetoric from their propaganda outlets and bots is getting more and more irrational…and desperate.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

Yet you want Donald Trump to BECOME the federal government.

The President isn’t the Federal Government.

After listening to Biden’s most recent totalitarian screed, I can see how you might be misled.

Maybe somebody should pull the plug of social media. It’s making people crazy.

I’m fine with that, considering Social Media was hijacked by the Left and used to literally trick people into believing things that were not true…almost entirely from the government and the companies who pay them.

There are so many people who support and vote for Democrats based on false information…as as that’s getting exposed, they just can’t accept it. So maddened by the fact that THEY are the indoctrinated fools who were duped, they struggle to blame everyone else for the same.

Welcome back to reality, buddy. Maybe you should assume about 99.9% of what you read on CNN, FOX, and from the WH itself isn’t true.

Tell that to your cult leader.

The President isn’t the Federal Government

Tell that to your cult leader.

I’m sure he knows, after we all watched the federal government collude criminally to remind us we don’t live in a democracy.

We live in a one-party police state.

Breaking: Russian SU-27s Attacked U.S. Reaper Drone Over Black Sea: Dumped Fuel on Drone, Then Forced Crash After Colliding, Breaking Drone’s Propeller

biden showing his weakness by not speaking out about Russia intentionally taking down an element of our military. Russia would not dare to have done something like this while President Trump was in office.

Another example of biden thankfully losing his war against Putin.

The Russian KGB midget is training brainwashed 10-year-old school girls in occupied Crimea to handle military assault weapons.

03/15/23 – Russian state media touts video of schoolchildren in Crimea drilling with rifles and training in hand-to-hand combat

A new video shared by Russian state media shows schoolchildren in Crimea training with rifles and engaging in hand-to-hand combat drills. The lessons appear to be part of a military training course that students across grade levels are participating in.

In the video, originally shared by RIA Novosti Crimea, students first handle rifles in a competitive timed exercise. The guns appear to resemble Kalashnikov rifles, which students take apart, clean, and reload. “Who won?” a student asks as the exercise ends.

The video then transitions to a hand-to-hand combat exercise. During the lesson, nine students showcase basic martial arts stances while handling guns that also appear to resemble Kalashnikov rifles. 

According to a translation, RIA Novosti Crimea reported that this is one of the first schools to host these basic military training lessons…

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

Meanwhile, in our own formidable country…

Oh, greggie ain’t gonna touch that one?

It’s empty-headed cable television garbage, on the same level as Dr Gorka’s own offerings. Who cares what Mulvaney is? It’s irrelevant.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

BREAKING: House Oversight Committee Shows Bidens Received $1 Million after China Wired $3 Million to Biden Associate

The Russian KGB midget is a pedophile, you know. Obedient little boys and girls with guns is probably one of his lifelong fantasies.

Nazi Germany did the same thing. They brainwashed an entire generation of German schoolchildren.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

Putin’s propagandists. Would of thought you could figure this out. Ukraine has some white extremists. So do we. They’re not Ukraine, nor are they the United States. In Ukraine’s case, a lot of them died defending their homeland from invasion. At least some of ours would do the same.

Does our military allow them to openly display nazi flags?nazi tatoos? Nazi salutes?
You just are either naive or completely stupid.

I’m not seeing them doing so in uniform. Some of the people in the photos are pre-military age kids. No clue when or where the photos were taken, or who the people are.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

Putin is the one behaving like a Nazi, toward his own people and toward the nation he has invaded. Do you need a checklist to figure out the obvious?

Does not matter one iota.

STILL… NUMBER ONE ON iTunes for 24 Hours!… Singer Natasha Owens Joins Steve Bannon to Discuss Her Latest Hit – “Trump Won and You Know It” (VIDEO)

A lot of that going around…along with trying to jail political rivals, and ruling by edict and not democracy.

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Your picture isn’t working. State Farm Arena didn’t work, either. It doesn’t work on anyone who understands how minds are controlled by social media propagandists. It’s too recognizable as the stuff of gutter politics.

This, from people who claim that mainstream media and traditional journalism are providing a distorted view of reality…

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

That vid has been floating the internet for a very long time. They assemble and dis assemble a rifle while blind folded.

Hand to hand combat?
My grandson takes marshal arts classes those are very basic moves, very very basic.
Here we see a toddler training for a calvary charge…ooo the horror!

Last edited 1 year ago by kitt

Fortunately Putin won’t be sending your grandson to war. He’s got plans for Eastern Europe, though. He’s setting Russia’s course for the future.

He is to old to do anything but hold Russia and keep Ukraine neutral.
Zelensky just cant stop his bloodlust for Russian Ethnics. Lindsey Grahm wants a war everywhere ready to march into Mexico FFS he needs his damn head examined.
Why is Peace such a bad thing?

Last edited 1 year ago by kitt

Putin’s forces have reduced the towns and cities of Russian-speaking Ukrainians to ruins, looted their homes, tortured, murdered and raped those who resisted, and forcibly removed thousands of their children to Russia for “political reeducation.” This isn’t imaginary, it’s entirely real, and fully documented. Putin has turned the homeland of ethnic Russians into a hell on earth, killing thousands of Russians in the process.

You’re not just ignoring what Putin is and what he’s done, you’ve become an apologist for it—and Trump’s propaganda-twisted MAGA movement has much to do with it.

If you are correct greggie for once in your life, then why didn’t this happen under Trump?

Because Trump and Putin had such a good relationship? Isn’t that what Trump told you?

No greggie,it was not that they had a good relationship, it was that they had a good understanding. Putin knew that if he stepped out of bounds, Trump would make him pay for it!. You still have not been able to post one true comment in all of the years you have posted rubbish here. Every thing you posted about COVID has been proven wrong. Are you still wearing you mask that doesn’t work? I still believe it is not really your fault, it was the LSD you took while peeling potatoes in Vietnam.

Sure. And now Trump knows what to say to stop the war in one day. (He can also walk on water and fly by flapping his arms.) The man is crazy.

The secret was deterrence but that took a president who was not profiting on a war in Ukraine. The Biden family took money from the Ukrainian government. Now he must support them or the evidence would be revealed and the Biden organization will be headed to prison.

Trump has a proven track record of making peace deals and maintaining them.

Only a nutter would say otherwise.

You’re crazy.

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Unfortunately, those responsible for usurping our government WILL be sending grandsons to war.

They’ve got plans for all of Europe and beyond.

They are setting the World’s course for the future…though we didn’t elect them.

Our enemy is this globalist cabal of psychopaths who initiated the war in Ukraine.

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You keep avoiding the question.

Why don’t you want peace???

We invade countries and kill millions. Russia invades countries and is working towards the same.

Why don’t you want peace? Seriously? This war could have been ended a long time ago, but it was clearly provoked and continued by NATO.

Why do you want Ukrainians to die?

They’re dying to protect their homeland and the people they love from a murderous foreign invasion—a concept that seems to be lost on you. Besides that, they’re standing between Putin and the rest of Europe, which you also seem to have trouble figuring out.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

No.

Their Irag and Russia is the US.

Now explain.

Why do you not want peace? It’s in our ability and interest to fix this.

And why do you keep doubling down on a position we all know you don’t have?

Ending Putin’s ambitions to establish a rebranded Soviet Empire is a prerequisite to peace. Let the son-of-a-bitch prevail, and you’re also greenlighting China’s expansion. Meanwhile, here at home, you hope to disassemble the United States into a motley collection of pissant authoritarian states, which wouldn’t be capable of fending off either.

You’re cheering every damn setback your own nation has to deal with, just to get Trump or some other lying, manipulative populace clone in office. Sorry, but f*ck that. If that’s what you want, go to Putin’s Russia. Then you can get a taste of what living in a police state is really like.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

That’s a lie and you know it. The situation is much more complex, and I don’t know if you’re dumb or just paid.

Russia was ALWAYS going to push out their borders due to insecurity, and we’ve been able to stave that off.

Meanwhile at home, I’m not sure how you think you are keeping anyone unified. You, the Left, and the Woke are using identity and terrorism to divide us. When people like DeSantis or anyone else tries to stop it, you accuse them of doing what you just did.

I really can’t tell if you’re merely a demon-possessed jackass, or an FBI agent.

They seem to be the same, these days.

What Biden is doing is assembling an OUTSIDE motley collection of authoritarian states, by the way. Russia, China, Iran, SA, South Africa. I’m sure you see that.

Do you people even understand what you are doing? We Americans will stand together, but you and people like you won’t be counted among us. You’ve lost your citizenship, as traitors always do.

I believe that greggie is still suffering from his LSD use while peeling potatoes in Vietnam.

Let me remind you it only took 2500 to fend off the Taliban. There are on average 500,000 hunters in Wisconsin alone they would have no rules of engagement. Wisconsin isnt the state with the highest number of armed men that are basically snipers. Can follow a small trail of blood for miles.
Never underestimate the protection that armed citizens provide this country.
We want peace shove your imaginary bullshit about the long dead soviet union, its the same crap propaganda they pulled in VN oh if we dont stop them the world will soon be communist.

Putin’s preparation for the Russian empire’s resurrection included targeted worldwide propaganda and social media manipulation. It included widening divisions among adversary populations, and the manipulation of opinion to sway foreign elections. Presently he’s conducting a massive invasion of a target sovereign nation, which he intends to conquer and steal, while readying conditions to do the same in a couple more. Hundreds of thousands have already died because of this bastard.

Everyone remotely familiar with modern history knows how the movie plays out. You either stop them at the start, or wish to hell you had done so later.

We want peace shove your imaginary bullshit about the long dead soviet union…

Literally just described what the American empire does every day.

Please explain yourself.

If you’re simply pro-america that’s absolutely fine. But why you people take the moral high road as if Russia or other countries can’t simply push their own interests the way we do is asinine.

The Ukraine is not a sovereign Nation. It’s a rough collection of factions. It’s also been a hotbed for Western money laundering and experimentation. These are facts.

“You either stop them at the start, or wish to hell you had done so later”

Do you have any idea how this contradicts every one of your other woke beliefs that you pretend to have on this site?

The attitude you just displayed is literally why the world is breaking apart and coming against the United States.

Greg I am serious we want peace, Zelenky can go to hell, He threatened to drag our children into this proxy war. It didnt help his image even the Oscars told him to take his beggars cup elsewhere.

Last edited 1 year ago by kitt

The battle in Ukraine is all but over greggie. If you check the cash government officials are stashing in foreign banks, you would know this. Putin is little by little destroying the cities as he moves east leaving no place for reoccupation. .

The government of Ukraine is sacrificing a generation while the government officials are getting rich.

They’re resisting a violent Russian invasion of their homeland, idiot. How can you not see something so obvious?

I seem to have to ask that question again and again. How can you not see what January 6 was? How can you not see from a 30-second video clip that Trump is a megalomaniac? Are you asleep? Hypnotized? Brainwashed?

He’s going to prevent WW3 and settle the war before he even arrives at the Oval Office? It will take him one day? Are you listening to what he’s saying? It’s CRAZY.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

I am sure that those who are dying believe they are defending their homeland, but when it is over, this generation will be dead, Russia will win and the government leaders will run off to Miami Beach or somewhere nice with US tax payer funds. Most every war has been won by the country with the most resources. Ukraine has a crooked government and will lose.

They are, in fact, dying to defend their homeland. Putin is DESTROYING their homeland.

Ukraine will win because the fate of America and Europe depend on it. Poland just decided to send Ukraine Mig29 jet fighters. It’s not altruism. They understand Putin and his intentions. People like Putin cannot be allowed to have their way.

He must be worn down until his political enemies in Russia remove him. As long as Russia’s nuclear weapons are at his command, the only choice is between wearing him down until he’s dead or deposed, or the free world’s submission to a violently aggressive tyrant. China is watching to see which we choose.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

You fit a profile.

Greg.

We invade countries and have neverending wars.

The US does that. Clearly.

Why are you against peace?

03/16/23 – Pentagon video shows Russian jet dumping fuel on US drone

The Russian account of the downing of a US drone over international waters in international airspace turns out to be total bullshit. What a surprise.

This was the same guy who swore he had no intention of invading Ukraine while the Biden administration warned the world that he was going to do so. Remember?

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

OUTRAGEOUS: Biden’s Bailout of Silicon Valley Bank Helped Save Investment Flow to Sensitive Chinese Aerospace and Defense Ventures

Who rolled back the regulations put in effect after the 2007-2008 meltdown that reined in irresponsible financial behavior?

You are sadly mistaken. No one except far left lunatics are pumping that conspiracy theory.

bidens American recovery act started the ball rolling. Try learning how capital markets function.