Ukraine Loses Soldiers – Europe Its Economies – All For No Gain

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by MoA

When the Ukraine launched its Kherson ‘counteroffensive’ on August 29 I was pretty aghast and judged that it was destined to fail:

To break the reinforced Russian lines now would have taken more troops than were available.I am sure that the Ukrainian military knew that this offensive would fail.
 
For political reasons Zelenski ordered them to launch it anyway. There are now another 1,000+ Ukrainian and Russian lives lost for nothing other then some sensational headlines and political optics.

More than 3,000 Ukrainians have died by now in the Kherson offensive without having made any significant progress. Hundreds of tanks and armored vehicles were lost. A dozen Ukrainian planes and helicopters have been shot down. All the material had come from the ‘west’ which has now emptied its stock of Soviet weapons. No more will be coming anytime soon.
 
The Ukraine thereby blew its chance to hold a line against any significant new moves from the Russia side. Those moves will be coming.
 
But what really bothers me is the human toll of this offensive.
 
I have never been at war. But I have had a decent full time military officer training over several years plus several month long reserve stints in active duty battalions. I have read lots of books and watched dozens of movies about frontline fighting in World War I, II, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. If one reflects on those events and the details described in the depictions one gets a ‘feel’ for such conflicts. Then there is the operational math like the numbers of artillery rounds fired per square kilometer, troop density and the toll such artillery bombardments will inevitably take.
 
The Ukrainian soldiers never had a chance to withstand the might of the Russian military. None whatsoever. That was recognizable from the very onset of the war. That the Ukrainian government and its backers tried to withstand the onslaught was illogical.
 
The ‘west’ should have given up and make the concessions that Russia had demanded. It will have to make those anyway.
 
The Ukrainian government has tightly controlled the media and any reporting from the frontline. We have only had Russian reports of high numbers of Ukrainian casualties. Some doubt the numbers the Russians give. I don’t. They mostly fit with what I learned and with  calculations.
 
Now a Washington Post reporter got access to hospitals where wounded Ukrainian soldiers involved in that ‘counterattack’ try to recover. John Hudson’s report is grim even as it is not from the frontline and holds back on the most grievous scenes:
 
Wounded Ukrainian soldiers reveal steep toll of Kherson offensive
 
As the piece is behind a paywall I will extensively quote from it:

In dimly lit hospital rooms in southern Ukraine, soldiers with severed limbs, shrapnel wounds, mangled hands and shattered joints recounted the lopsided disadvantages their units faced in the early days of a new offensive to expel Russian forces from the strategic city of Kherson.The soldiers said they lacked the artillery needed to dislodge Russia’s entrenched forces and described a yawning technology gap with their better-equipped adversaries. The interviews provided some of the first direct accounts of a push to retake captured territory that is so sensitive, Ukrainian military commanders have barred reporters from visiting the front lines.

“We lost five people for every one they did,” said Ihor, a 30-year-old platoon commander who injured his back when the tank he was riding in crashed into a ditch.

Russia’s Orlan drones exposed Ukrainian positions from more than a kilometer above their heads, they said, an altitude that meant they never heard the buzz of the aircraft tracking their movements.
 
Russian tanks emerged from newly built cement fortifications to blast infantry with large-caliber artillery, the wounded Ukrainian soldiers said. The vehicles would then shrink back beneath the concrete shelters, shielded from mortar and rocket fire.
 
Counter-battery radar systems automatically detected and located Ukrainians who were targeting the Russians with projectiles, unleashing a barrage of artillery fire in response.
 
Russian hacking tools hijacked the drones of Ukrainian operators, who saw their aircraft drift away helplessly behind enemy lines.

Oleksandr said the Russian artillery fire was relentless. “They were just hitting us all the time,” he said. “If we fire three mortars, they fire 20 in return.”
 
The Ukrainian soldiers said they had to carefully ration their use of munitions but even when they did fire, they had trouble hitting targets. “When you give the coordinates, it’s supposed to be accurate but it’s not,” he said, noting that his equipment dated back to 1989.

Russian electronic warfare also posed a constant threat. Soldiers described ending their shifts and turning on their phones to call or text family members — a decision that immediately drew Russian artillery fire.
 
“When we turn on mobile phones or radio, they can recognize our presence immediately,” said Denys. “And then the shooting starts.”

The Ukrainian claims of retaking villages such as Vysokopillya could not be confirmed, though soldiers interviewed said they were able to advance into some previously Russian-controlled villages. Those soldiers declined to name the villages, citing instructions from their superiors.
 
A group of Washington Post journalists who traveled within three miles of Vysokopillya, in northern Kherson, on Monday were prevented from entering the village by Ukrainian troops and could not ascertain its status. A local official said Ukrainian and Russian forces were still battling for control.
 
A clear picture of Ukraine’s losses could not be independently assessed.

Denys, sitting upright on his hospital bed, said almost every member of his 120-person unit was injured, though only two were killed.
 
A 25-year-old soldier being treated for shrapnel wounds said that, within his unit of 100 soldiers, seven were killed and 20 injured. Ihor, the platoon commander, said 16 of the 32 men under his command were injured and one was killed.
 
Ukraine’s injured soldiers have been spread out to different hospitals across southern Ukraine to free up the main medical facilities near the Kherson region for incoming patients.

The soldiers in the second ‘counteroffensive’ attempt southeast of Kharkiv will have a similar fate.
 
My best guess is that Ukrainian losses are not five but ten times those on the Russian side. An attack, through the open steppe, on an armored force that is technologically superior is a suicide mission.
 
Russian soldiers are not allowed to carry mobile phones. Why Ukrainian soldiers are allowed to have then and use those is beyond me. Do they want to commit suicide?
 
Suicide is what European politicians have committed their economies and societies to. Who knew that one needs energy, as cheap as possible, to smelter steel, aluminum and glass?
 


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SGM World News @SGMWorldnews – 10:13 UTC · 7 Sep 2022BREAKING: 40 CEOs of European metal producers have wrote an open letter to Ursula von der Leyen and the European Commission warning of an “existential threat” to industry as power prices surge.

No steel smelter, no taxes from steel smelters and their workers. No steel smelter, no payback of credit given to it. The big banking losses coming now will cause another severe banking crisis. Less money for the state means less pensions and healthcare.
 
This is ruinous for European states and their inhabitants. Meanwhile the U.S. politicians, neoconservative ideologist and money men behind the whole plan of using the Ukraine against Russia are laughing their asses off.

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Oh dear Zelenski will fight to the last Ukrainian, as long as Biden will foot the bill with zero oversight.
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At what point will joe’s blackmailer cut and run from Ukraine?
When he has enough money from the American people.

I dont know if its about blackmail anymore I think this is he cant spend enough in other places to bankrupt the US fast enough for the NWO agenda.
Russias economy is doing fine. They long ago learned to do without the EU and US. Putin wont let in the Rothchilds banking to enslave his people, he has a flat tax for everyone. No it isnt Paradise but look at our Golden State, and NY. There is no smash and grab or massive homelessness. Plenty of Baby formula.

09/09/22 – Top Russian Commander of Invading Army Captured by Ukraine

Ukrainian media outlets and social media users have speculated that a top Russian commander has been captured as Kyiv’s counteroffensive against Moscow’s forces gathers pace.

Images and video shared on Twitter and Telegram purportedly show Lieutenant General Andrei Sychevoi among a group of Russian troops handcuffed on their knees with one social media user saying they were near Balakliya, in the Kharkiv region…

Maybe it’s his identical twin…

09/09/22 – ‘Substantial victory’ for Kyiv as Russian front crumbles near Kharkiv

KYIV, Sept 9 (Reuters) – Ukrainian forces were charging through an expanding area of previously Russian-held territory in the east on Friday after bursting through the frontline in a surprise breakthrough that could mark a major turning point in the war.

After keeping silent for a day, Moscow effectively acknowledged that a section of its frontline had crumbled southeast of Ukraine’s second largest city Kharkiv.

“The very fact of a breach of our defences is already a substantial victory for the Ukrainian armed forces,” the head of the Moscow-installed administration for occupied areas in Kharkiv province, Vitaly Ganchev, said on Russian state TV…

Russia is winning the war. They will eventually take Ukraine, and move into other Eastern European countries.

This war, and every single death, was caused by the illegal installation of Joe Biden.

09/09/22 – St. Petersburg deputies face fines after calling for impeachment of Putin in rare display of dissent in Russia

The author of the appeal, Dmitry Palyuga, posted it on Twitter, alleging Putin was responsible for: “(1) the decimation of young able-bodied Russian men who would serve the workforce better than the military; (2) Russia’s economic downturn and brain drain; (3) NATO’s expansion eastward, including adding Finland and Sweden to “double” its border with Russia; (4) the opposite effect of the ‘special military operation’ in Ukraine.”

The dam is beginning to leak.

Just more Western propaganda.

It’s the same as Putin’s.

You’re the same as Putin.

The only dam beginning to leak is the growing number of conscientious FBI agents coming forward to report on the Bureau’s totalitarian behavior.

It’s going so well for Putin that he’s losing ground, and now relying on North Korea to cover his depleted stockpile of munitions.

The man is an idiot.

The man is an idiot.

An idiot who is about to send Germany back to the stone age.

You’ve been making such statements for over 6 months.

Putin’s invasion has turned into a disaster. Ukrainian soldiers are fighting to defend their homeland; untrained Russian soldiers only want to return home alive. They’ve taken so many casualties that they’re filling their ranks from Russian prisons.

This isn’t going to end well for Putin. Europe won’t give in. Putting up with energy shortages and displaced refugees for a year or more is better than either permanent economic subjugation by a tyrant or direct military involvement. The US and Europe will back Ukraine until Putin’s invasion collapses. It’s not altruism. It’s self-interest.

An idiot who is about to send Germany back to the stone age.

Summary: H.R.8731 — 117th Congress (2021-2022)

Introduced in House (08/19/2022)
Protect Children’s Innocence Act

This bill places restrictions on the provision of gender affirming care. Gender affirming care includes performing surgery, administering medication, or performing other procedures for the purpose of changing the body of an individual to correspond to a sex that differs from the individual’s biological sex.

Specifically, the bill makes it a felony to perform any gender affirming care on a minor and it permits a minor on whom such care is performed to bring a civil action against each individual who provided the care.

Additionally, the bill prohibits the use of federal funds for gender affirming care or for health insurance that covers such care. Such care may not be provided in a federal health care facility or by a federal employee. The bill also prohibits qualified health plans from including coverage for gender affirming care. Further, plans that include coverage for such care are not eligible for federal subsidies.

Finally, the bill prohibits institutions of higher education from offering instruction in gender affirming care. It also makes any non-U.S. national (alien under federal law) who performs gender affirming care on a minor deportable and inadmissible to the United States.

The restrictions under this bill do not apply to the provision of care under certain circumstances such as when an individual does not have normal sex chromosome structure, sex steroid hormone production, or sex steroid hormone action.

Yeah, Comrade Greggie, it’s going so well with Ukraine that Biden is asking for another $11.7 BILLION on top of the $1.3 BILLION he just gave Zelinsky this week. Got that? We have seniors who can no longer pay their electric bills but we will send an additional $13 BILLION to the most corrupt natioin on the face of this planet.

You leftists don’t give a damn about Americans.

We could always ignore Putin like Hitler was ignored, and then see how many Americans die when war engulfed all of Western Europe. That’s what Trump would have done.

You leftists don’t give a damn about Americans.

We could always ignore Putin like Hitler was ignored, and then see how many Americans die when war engulfed all of Western Europe. That’s what Trump would have done.

Trump stopped Putin.

Biden allowed him to invade.

Trump stopped Putin.

Obviously he didn’t, but Joe Biden is. You don’t seem to like the fact that he’s doing so.

You hate Zelensky because of Trump’s “perfect phone call” and Giuliani’s failed extortion effort.

“Poverty exists not because we can’t feed the poor, but because we can’t satisfy the rich.”

10/08/22 – Top 1% of U.S. Earners Now Hold More Wealth Than All of the Middle Class

0/01/22 – Soaring markets helped the richest 1% gain $6.5 TRILLION in wealth last year, according to the Fed

“Federal Reserve data indicates that as of Q4 2021, the top 1% of households in the United States held 32.3% of the country’s wealth, while the bottom 50% held 2.6%.

We have seniors who can no longer pay their electric bills but we will send an additional $13 BILLION to the most corrupt nation on the face of this planet.

Trump stopped Putin.

Obviously he didn’t, but Joe Biden is. You don’t seem to like the fact that he’s doing so.

Trump stopped Putin until Joey Sponge Brain took office. Putin then knew he had absolutely nothing in his way as Biden is, and has been for 40 years, a dumbass when it comes to foreign policy. So Putin sat on the Ukrainian border for months until he was ready and then invaded Ukraine, laughing at Joey Sponge Brain the whole time.

How many BILLIONS has the U.S. given to the corruptokrats in Ukraine? Zelinsky being the biggest grifter of them all. How many homes does he own now?

But what about the seniors living on that wonderful Social Security check in California that can no longer pay their electric bills so they sit in the heat, and will probably die? I’m sure Zelinsky will be sad when they do but hey, $13 BILLION will help fatten his account.

greggie, if Biden stopped Putin, why are we sending more millions to Ukraine? You need to lay off of that LSD

09/10/22 – One hour ago – Russian grip on northeast Ukraine collapses after Kyiv severs supply line

KYIV/HRAKOVE, Ukraine, Sept 10 (Reuters) – Moscow abandoned its main bastion in northeastern Ukraine on Saturday, in a sudden collapse of one of the war’s principal front lines after surging Ukrainian forces threatened to encircle the area in a shock advance.

The swift fall of Izium in Kharkiv province was Moscow’s worst defeat since its troops were forced back from the capital Kyiv in March, and could prove a decisive turning point in the six-month-old war, with thousands of Russian soldiers abandoning ammunition stockpiles and equipment as they fled…

It’s a rout. They’re running for their lives, abandoning their equipment on the field.

Holy smokes sounds like Pedo Petes Afghanistan! Well since they got all that equipment maybe we can cut the cash flow.

Nope. We persist until Putin is utterly defeated, then Ukraine becomes a strong and prosperous nation, a major supplier of energy, and Europe’s eastern wall. America won’t be bound by an expanding Chinese empire on the west, and Putin’s expanding Russian empire on the east. And it won’t have taken a Third World War. Only our resolve to stay the course until Putin fails.

Well since they got all that equipment maybe we can cut the cash flow.

“Sirius Report” doesn’t seem to have a direct quote or a link to Olha Stefanishyna’s statement. I wonder why?

Comrade Liar;

You hate Zelensky because of Trump’s “perfect phone call” and Giuliani’s failed extortion effort.

I hate no one. Not even you, even though you make shit up more than a spoiled child.

I have no use for Zelensky, that is true.

I also have no use for Joe Biden, Jim Biden, Hunter Biden, Jill Biden, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Jr. and his racist wife, Moochelle. I don’t hate them. I just have no use for them because each and every one of them is a grifter. Someone who became extremely wealthy by selling out their country and their country’s citizens.

10/08/22 – Top 1% of U.S. Earners Now Hold More Wealth Than All of the Middle Class

Amazing. You are predicting what will be written in three plus weeks from now.

But since you brought it up, who are those “top 1% earners” and which political party garners the most donations from them? You know, those like Jeff Bezos, mentioned in your article, and Mark Zuckerburg, Bill Gates, the Pritzkers. But that is what happens when you shut down mom and pop businesses but allow the wealthy to continue operating theirs. The Kung flu was a real business boost for Jeff Bezos.

0/01/22 – Soaring markets helped the richest 1% gain $6.5 TRILLION in wealth last year, according to the Fed

See above.

You whine and moan about the wealthy but never do we get one word from you complaining how they (Gates, Bezos, Pritzker and Zuckerburg) give their money to Democrats.

You’re a pathetic hypocrite.