Devin Nunes dropped a bombshell yesterday in an interview with Maria Bartiromo [Video Here]. Many people are overlooking the implications of his speculation; and, more importantly how Nunes statement answers just about every contradictory question people have carried. Including:
- Why Rosenstein introduced Mueller to President Trump the day before he was appointed as Special Counsel?
- Why Mueller/Rosenstein are hiding the investigative origination letter?
- Why President Trump has NOT been able to declassify documents? and
- Why President Trump is, and will always be, hamstrung by the Mueller investigation?
In short, Devin Nunes speculated that Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein put the substantive allegations from the Fusion-GPS/Ohr/Steele Dossier into his investigative instructions (full pdf below) that he gave Robert Mueller.
If it is accurate that Rosenstein charged Robert Mueller with investigating the dossier claims; and if Nunes is accurate that the DOJ investigative target, a derivative of the dossier, is Donald Trump; well, everything starts to make a hell of a lot more sense.
If the mandate given to Robert Mueller was to specifically investigate the sitting president of the United States as an active participant, and subsequent target, for a counterintelligence operation, then DAG Rod Rosenstein -and Mueller- would have tohide that mandate from everyone and anyone.
More specifically, Rosenstein would NEVER be able to honestly discuss the Mueller probe with President Trump; because President Trump would be the primary target within the investigation. And that changes EVERYTHING.
Now, at first blush this likelihood might sound disingenuous, but if you think about the downstream ramifications; and then contrast those ramifications against what we know has factually taken place; then things make a lot more sense.
Remember, back when this entire nonsense began, President Trump strongly said he had nothing to do with any coordination with Russia; nothing to do with collusion with Russia; and also stated he was okay with the investigation as it looked into the propriety of people within the 2016 campaign. However, these statements were also with the assumption, held by himself as a result of -perhaps false- confirmations from James Comey, that he himself was not a target.
If Nunes speculation is accurate; and if the reporting (based on leaks) that has surfaced in the two-plus years of the investigation is accurate; then President Trump was and is the target, and none of the principles would be able to discuss the key elements specifically because of this extra-constitutional issue.
All of President Trump’s prior commentary would be based on a (2017/2018) assumption that he was not the target of the FBI probe that was eventually turned over to Mueller by Rosenstein. If Nunes is accurate; and that origination instruction includes the specific charge to investigate the President; then all prior assumptions are invalid.
Examples:
- Rosenstein (or any DOJ/FBI official) would always be engaging with POTUS as a target. All conversation would be clouded by that aspect. As a result, Rosenstein could never be fully honest with President Trump; or answer any question therein.
- Any action taken by President Trump (emphasis on “any”) would therefore potentially be direct influence by the President toward an investigation that held him as a target. He could never be permitted to approach the investigation…. yet he would never find anyone with an honest answer as to why he cannot approach the investigation.
We previously pondered this aspect when we outlined “the declassification conundrum“. However, at the time we did not evaluate the classifications issue from a targetperspective; we were evaluating the issue as if President Trump was the victim of the illegal targeting.
This may be confirmation that the President has always been the target, seriously we knew that. The Russians the fall guys for a coup. Wray needs to tell Mr. Mueller assets of the FBI are first to be authorized by him personally. The Gestapo tactics used in Stones arrest were beyond the pale, Americas most dangerous man? 17 vehicles 27 agents in full tactical gear, Stone opening the door to stare into the wrong end of assault rifles? Seriously if he was going to destroy evidence it would be long gone. If he was that damn dangerous why was CNN just 15 feet away? Shouldnt there have been a perimeter where CNN reporters and film crew would be kept at a safe distance?
Enough of this Banana Republic crap already.
Those that lied to Congress must be brought to trial.
Indeed, anyone that wasn’t aware that Trump was always the ultimate target would be a really dim bulb, whether it was ever in writing or not. The goal was to depose Trump. The slate was completely clean as to what they were looking for to achieve the goal.
A report from Mueller is not coming anytime soon.
@Deplorable Me: I think it will happen before Roddy retires in March, he is the boss in charge of and creator of the Russia special investigator. Not the puppet master simply the one that told trump to fire Comey then he used it as the excuse, just a fall guy soon.
@kitt: Do you see the Stone trial being over by then? How can he write the report until Cohen testifies and the Stone trial is completed? I mean, certainly Cohen’s “bombshell” testimony and the trial of the Crime of the Century HAS to be vital to conclusions of the report. Unless, like Comey’s report on Hillary, it was written two years ago.
@Deplorable Me: Not 1 charge in 30 indicted has to do with Russian collusion. Not a single one, the Russians he indicted the assholes showed up WTH, that has gone down the memory hole of the MSM in this twisted anti-logic gruesome travesty of justice.
There really isn’t much to the charges fabricated on Stone. There is 0 proof he wasn’t stating his conjecture on wikileaks, and he was wrong.
Who didnt try to guess what was going to be revealed. Satanic worshippers sacrificing chickens, Hillarys lack of personal hygiene, who knew? What havent they done? Given Assange immunity and had him testify.
Not much talk around here about today’s Senate Intelligence Committee testimony, for some odd reason. I wonder why that is?
Tuesday, January 29, 2019 — Top intel chiefs contradict Trump on Iran, North Korea nuclear developments
Trump knows more than the generals. He knows more than the intelligence community. He knows more than everybody. Right?
They—the assembled heads of our nation’s intelligence services—were asked if they were made aware of what was discussed at the private meeting between Trump and Vladimir Putin during the G20. Only Putin’s translator was present. There were no note takers. The response was that this would be discussed during the hearing’s closed afternoon session. Apparently a simple “yes” or “no” couldn’t be provided in public.
We may be in even more serious trouble than some of us suspect. The situation is almost beyond belief. That’s how he’s getting away with it.
@Greg: Trump urging EU members to hold to sanctions, NATO strengthened by infusions of billions, NK ans SK chatting perhaps end of that 70 year war, no more rockets over our asian allies.
You should be more worried about China and Russias interest in black out warfare. Our grid is old and replacement transformers made in China. Your pols are not exactly talking up National security, Free stuff confiscate wealth, morons.
@Greg: Aside from Obama’s embarrassing “hot mic” revelation, did he tell the intel people he promised Vlad he would bow to his every whim and wish?
@kitt: How many experts supported Trump forcing NATO members to start forking over their fair share of their NATO commitments?
If Obama had ever done anything like this, the right would have totally lost their minds. But then, there are numerous indications that they actually may have…
@Greg: Done anything like what?
weaponize the government against its citizens?
Gave billions to a hostile foreign state?
Assisted the overthrow of a government that agreed to give up its nuclear plans?
Followed the President and tell the heads of those countries that a coup was in progress to be patient?
Send a former SOS to chat with Macron, Davos heads and Iran poobahs?
yup we would be outraged
@Greg: Are you implying you are not aware of Obama’s hot mic moment with Medvedev vowing his cooperation with Putin?
Anything like having a secret one-on-one meeting with Vladimir Putin, where the only other person present was a Russian translator provided by Vladimir Putin. This is…highly irregular.
@Greg: Did Barry tell everyone everything he spoke of in all his meetings with heads of other countries? there is nothing irregular about it at all.
Did he tell us all he asked Argentina to provide uranium to Iran?
@Greg: Again dodging the question…
@Deplorable Me: He doesn’t want to address that Barry and Hillary orchestrated the attempted framing and coup attempt of President Trump. His handlers were not done with the destruction of America.
Just out today. More evidence of wrongdoing. The propagandists for Obama’s Deep State operation, the MSM, are sure to let this go unreported.
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/f190129.pdf
@another vet: Steele, 2 live, 1 retired Ohr obvious
@kitt: Those were the first ones to pop into my mind as well. We haven’t heard from McCabe in a LONG time. He said he wasn’t going down alone. I wonder if he’s singing like a bird not that it will matter. They take care of their own.
@another vet: reminder
James Comey – FBI Director – fired May 9, 2017. Oversaw all FBI operations – including exoneration of Clinton and Trump-Russia Investigation. Reported to AG Lynch.
Peter Strzok – Deputy Assistant Director of FBI’s Counterintelligence – forced off Mueller’s team – demoted August 16, 2017 to FBI’s Human Resources. IG Horowitz discovered texts July 27, 2017. Strzok involved in all facets of Clinton exoneration. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group.
Lisa Page – FBI/DOJ Lawyer – forced off Mueller’s team – demoted August 16, 2017 to parts unknown. IG Horowitz discovered texts July 27, 2017. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group.
James Baker – FBI General Counsel – demoted and reassigned on December 20, 2017. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group. Senior-most legal counsel at FBI.
James Rybicki – Chief of Staff to FBI Director James Comey & successor Chris Wray – resigned/forced out January 23, 2018. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group.
Andrew McCabe – Deputy FBI Director – on December 23, 2017 announced retirement effective March 22, 2018. Forced to resign on January 29, 2018. Involved in all aspects. Reported to Comey.
Josh Campbell – Special Assistant to James Comey – resigned on February 2, 2018. Writes op-ed in New York Times on why he is leaving but does not disclose in op-ed that he was Special Assistant to Comey – or that he had been offered lucrative CNN job. Takes job with CNN on February 5, 2018.
Michael Kortan – FBI Asst. Director Public Affairs – resigned on February 8, 2018 – effective February 15, 2018. Kortan served as assistant director for public affairs, an influential job that controlled media access.
Bill Priestap – Assistant Director – Head of FBI Counterintelligence – Holds same position. Strzok’s boss – reported directly to McCabe.
@Deplorable Me:
I responded to this question previously. I recall posting a link to a video of the open microphone incident to demonstrate the extent to which it was being misrepresented.
@Greg: Not misrepresented at all. YOU misrepresent it. What does “more flexible” mean, especially from some guy that NEVER is explicit about what he will do? Well, it means he will ceded Syria to him. It means he will help Iran be a better ally of his. It means he won’t allow his own government to block his efforts to interfere in our elections. It means he will strangle our energy production so Putin can strengthen his economy and exert more power and influence over Europe.
Obama made it very clear. Or many his notes and briefings on his remark tells us otherwise?
@Deplorable Me: We could go to the BHO presidential library and look it up maybe? Im sure its filed somewhere near great accomplishments and things I didnt totally F’up.
@kitt: Unless Sandy Berger stuffed the notes in his underwear and whisked them off.
@kitt:
And Lynch reported to BHO as did Clapper, Brennan, and Rice. There is no way he didn’t have knowledge of this and may have very well directed it. That’s why PT accused him of spying on him. He has the proof, most likely given to him by Admiral Rogers and/or NSA whistleblower, Dennis Montgomery. Mueller is in place to continue where the FBI/DOJ/CIA coup left off and to cover up for their abuses and crimes. As long as he is in place they can play the obstruction card to prevent PT from declassifying everything. Wray etc. are willing accomplices because they don’t want their dirt exposed. I’m sure somewhere along the line there may be the excuse that they are doing it for the good of the country because if the truth did come out, it would cause serious damage to the government that would take years to repair. The Russians with their $800,000 in ads never could have caused as much damage to our republic as BHO and his praetorian guard has.
@Deplorable Me: The landscaping at his library highly impressive
@kitt: Has to be a prop. Michelle could never get through that door.
@another vet: Unless the nest of vipers is eliminated the damage will continue, declassification is just the beginning. Interesting testimony rumored on the El Chappo trial the witness that outed the Mex Prez getting cartel bucks might be naming US politicians.
@kitt:
Gee, I wonder if they are the ones who don’t want to secure our borders. Have a link to that one?
@another vet:
@another vet: These are claims I was hoping for some type of actual confirmation, you know the internet, some claims we would love to be true just to prove our point but hate to be true because these people are suppose to represent us and defend and protect the USA.
Which is why I worded it the way I did.
FORMER DEMOCRAT CLAIMS, a bit shakey
Do you think say 10 billion in US Tax payer dollars to Mexico in “foreign aid” could keep this testimony quiet? I love politics lol
@Deplorable Me: and Kitt
Okay, I read this one when it came out. I thought maybe there was another one.
Can you name the liberal President who made Rod US Attny?
Hint the progressive at 1600 7/12/05.
Bereit not for progressive GOPe don would have smooth sailing!