The Schiff Show may have only run for one season and the ratings were terrible, but that’s clearly not going to stop the Democrats from fulfilling their dream. We learned last night that the party of the Donkey will go ahead and file two articles of impeachment against the President today. Given that some of them (including at least one of their constitutional scholar witnesses) have been aching for this since Trump’s inauguration, I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised. The startling part is that they’ve decided to drop any specific charges and settled on a couple of the gauziest and most general ones. (NBC News)
Democrats plan to announce articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday, a senior Democratic aide told NBC News on Monday night.
The House Judiciary Committee heard from lawyers for both parties for more than nine hours on findings from the Intelligence Committee’s impeachment inquiry over allegations that Trump withheld aid to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden.
The Democratic aide said the articles would be announced at a news conference on Tuesday morning.
Sean Davis quickly summed up the key question on Twitter after the news broke.
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1204247068694462465
Yes, whatever happened to all of those specific charges? Where’s the accusation of bribery of a foreign power? Wasn’t that what kicked off this entire show in the first place?
In any event, it appears that most everyone in the House is ready to move forward to a floor vote and get this over with. It’s been obvious from the beginning that the Democrats were going to give in to pressure from their base and impeach the President. They’ll likely have a few defectors from swing districts and virtually zero Republican support, but they should still have enough votes to pass the measure.
It’s a bit late in the year to start the trial in the Senate now, but Cocaine Mitch should be able to get things set up for a starting date in early to mid-January. At that point, the shoe will be on the other foot. The Senate GOP majority will get to set the rules and call their own witnesses, unlike the kangaroo court that Adam Schiff set up. Since a two-thirds supermajority is required in the upper chamber to actually remove Trump from office and the Democrats don’t even hold half of the seats, the outcome should be a foregone conclusion.
It’s conceivable that a couple of Republicans may vote against Trump (possibly Mitt?), but at the same time, the Democrats can’t even count on getting all of their own members to vote for removal. Chuck Schumer is going to have to twist the arms of Joe Manchin (W.Va.) and Doug Jones (Ala.) pretty hard to get them to go along with this scheme. Keep in mind that Trump carried Alabama by 28 points in 2016 and he ran the table in West Virginia with a 42 point margin.
Jones is up for election again next year because he’s currently filling out the rest of Jeff Sessions’ term that he won in a special election. And since he’ll probably be running against Sessions he’ll need every vote he can get. As for Manchin, he still has four years left in his term and he’s already 72 years old, so he may not have as much to lose if he’s looking toward retirement. But he’s also one of the least liberal members of his party.
When the smoke clears, Trump will still be in office.
All of this is so weak…hahaha.
Abuse of power is too subjective. Nothing.
Obstruction is also horrible because hey, he’s guilty because he didn’t walk himself in chains to the prison himself…
Nothing.
Schiff at the nose of the titanic screaming hes the king of the world! While Pelosi has the second class Democrats firmly locked below decks.
@kitt: It’s just so…weird. Everything is predicated upon the Dems and their media outlets to sculpt this into something it’s not.
The only way to stop them is with the ballot box, and while the Presidential election for 2020 is already Trump’s, it’s really up to us to vote these other people out…
They have a lot of indoctrinated idiots like AJ/Ronald and Greg to keep shouting, though, so I guess it’s going to be a slow process.
The pathology is interesting. Obama was what Dems accuse Trump of being…but they just don’t see their own delusions. The need to fit in and have an enemy is a very dark and strong motivation that despots use over and over again, throughout history.
Watching Trump, Republicans, and citizens like us slowly detaching the embedded Dem machine from our government is like watching a tick being pulled from a dog’s back.
Republicans put Susan McDougal in prison for 18 months for declining to testify against Bill Clinton. Ken Starr asked three questions that she declined to answer.
The following are republican Trump associates who have defied lawful congressional subpoenas and refused to give any testimony at all or to provide subpoenaed documents:
John Eisenberg
Michael Duffy
Thomas Ulrich Brechbuhl
Russell Vought
Rick Perry
John Bolton
Mick Mulvaney
Wells Griffith
Robert Blair
Michael Ellis
Brian McCormack
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Pompeo
@Greg: Anything in the past is moot: this “impeachment” follows none of the precedents set by history, and is a simply political move with no teeth. To invoke Star is to invoke many more precedents from other impeachments, that would negate your entire argument.
The current incarnation of the Democrat Party reached it’s “high water mark”, during the Obama years. The lack of success of that era was the real reason American’s gravitated away from them, and now things are evening out nicely.
The issue is that Dem success was built by using three main institutions: education, media, and entertainment. The memes and principles were quite infectious, and many were onboard.
The Dems have to go on “overdrive” to hide the fact they’ve lost their following, and their movement is over.
What’s ironic is the list of Dems and their allies that are going to be indicted, and have actual legal action taken against them instead of a perversion of a political process. Since the impeachment isn’t a legal process and isn’t being run with fairness or due process, the WH is under no obligation — legally, ethically, or otherwise — to comply with any subpoenas. It’s actually their Constitutional duty to resist such abortions of justice, and they are right to ignore the Dems death-throe impeachment farce.
The impeachment is just a smoke screen for the corruption built in the Obama years, and the majority of Americans see through it. The Dems made multiple deals with the devil…
…and now the bill is due.
@Nathan Blue: The people reject CNN and the other pravda mouth parts ratings show that quite clearly.
The Dem leader in the polls joined by the other daddy now have their MOFKR (make our filthy kids rich )tour bus rolling to another place, Joe knows not where.
Michelle after screeching about white flight is moving into a mega mansion in Marthas Vinyard, wow did she chunk up like 95 lbs.
Will they fire up the Scooby van for Hillary?
Who will vote for the kids cant read, so tax soda Billionaire?
Yup they will win…we are defeated, I can only vote so I will toss away my vote on the Republican ticket.
If we happen to win Trump may be the first President re-elected after impeachment.
How is it that thirteen people openly defying lawful subpoenas at a president’s direction to obstruct an official congressional investigation has somehow become OK?
This is open defiance of the law at the direction of a man who took an oath to uphold the law. It’s nothing less than that.
@Nathan Blue, #5:
Cue the Lock her up! chants. Meanwhile, Trump is launching an investigation into the socialist flush toilet conspiracy. Better we talk about that than the million-million dollar a year deficit, or the hundred or so House bills that Mother McConnell is sitting on like a broody hen, or the shiny new ballistic missile submarine Kim Jong-un wants for Christmas.
@Greg:
It will never be as good as Cow Farts, Hell the first time we ever heard a toilet flush on television was on Archie bunker.
Take your victory laps dude we lost the articles of impeachment are ready!
We lost.
Ignore the snickering, you got him now!
I am pretty sure McConnell will take great pains to accommodate Democrats in ways the Democrats never accommodated Republicans in the House. I hope so, at least, but it won’t matter. Democrats will still whine and cry and complain about how unfair it is… just like they accused Trump of withholding evidence when he released the entire transcript to them.
@Nathan Blue:
After the Democrats donning their halos and preaching about how they are defending the country and Constitution by destroying the country and Constitution, Kevin McCarthy made a statement, then took questions. His statement eviscerated the entire Democrat farce and his responses to the questions which followed the Democrat pattern of ignoring facts and concentrating on appearances and politics were a sight to behold. Of course, only Fox and OAN were carrying HIS remarks; MSNBC and CNN were not, propagating the liberal propaganda instead. And so it goes.
They aren’t deluded. They see it. They ACCEPT it. They just LIE about it.
@Greg: Susan McDougal is not the President and the President has the right to contest any subpoenas. Likewise, the Democrats have the right to take them to court, but then that would shed light on their corrupt intent so they declined to go that route. More exposure of the weak, shallow case the Democrats KNOW they have. Now, they pin all their hopes on, after they get their asses kicked in the Senate, whining about how mean the Republicans are and how they only voted against the vaporous charges because they are mean old Republicans. Games, smoke and mirrors; that’s the sum total of all your Democrats.
Schiff is in a LOT of trouble for his abuse of power. Let us hope the Republicans drop the gentleman’s agreement mode and begin going for the throat, as Democrats do. The abuses the Democrats routinely commit will never stop until they suffer the consequences.
@Greg:
That’s rather weak misdirection, considering your battlecry is “impeach the motherf*cker”…lol.
The point is that no one is above the law, including Democrats, and lawful investigations yielding real evidence of crimes is how our justice system works, not a re-purposing of impeachment to obscure Democrat corruption. If they are found innocent, so be it. I’m thinking they’re not.
You and your party are scared, and it shows.
Yeah, the Republicans have been working, the Democrats have not. The new propaganda campaign your regurgitating above isn’t resonating with the American people.
The Dems are bought into the scheme that got them power in the last administration, and are flailing to grab it as it goes…like grabbing at sand…
What goes around…
…comes around…with indictments.
@Deplorable Me, #10:
So how do we explain the 100 or so bills passed in the House that have gotten no further than McConnell’s desk, while republicans loudly proclaim their Democratic Party colleagues have been doing nothing but impeachment investigations? They’re not imaginary. The Senate’s deliberate inaction isn’t propaganda.
What happened to the For the People Act of 2019, Mitch? Why are you so afraid to allow it to be voted on?
@Greg:
The bill was passed by the House on March 8, 2019 by a vote of 234–193 along strict party lines.
shove your partisan commie bills
They never name the bills what they actually are, like the “Patriot act.”
@Nathan Blue, #11:
The man in the White House apparently is. He can’t be criminally prosecuted; according to his lawyers, he can’t be criminally investigated; and he doesn’t have to obey the law in connection with congressional investigations, either. He can direct people called in to testify to ignore subpoenas, and order that no subpoenaed documents be provided.
That’s the underlying situation. The rest is bullshit intended to confuse people about what the underlying situation actually is—that it’s actually all some vast leftist conspiracy against Truth, Justice, The American Way, and an entirely innocent Donald Trump.
Never mind what he was clearly asking for on the phone call, and what he was holding back to get it. Never mind that the phone call was only part of a carefully orchestrated operation conducted through unofficial channels that left dedicated public servants looking on in total disbelief.
If Trump gets away with this crap, all future presidents will be able to get away with this crap. That will be Trump’s Make America Great Again legacy.
Fear Of Foreign Interference In U.S. Elections Dates From Nation’s Founding
@kitt:
Read the bill, and you’ll understand why. It’s name is entirely appropriate. The Founding Fathers would likely have approved of the principles behind it. Trump would have horrified them. What Trump was trying to pull with Ukraine is an example of the very thing they worried about.
@Greg: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Obama+on+election+interference&view=detail&mid=81BE76E9BE77A121860381BE76E9BE77A1218603&FORM=VIRE
@Deplorable Me:
The demokrats “impeachment inquiry” started the night of November 8th, 2016. This is what it evolved into. They’ve already publicly stated that if this fails they will continue to impeach Trump even if he wins re-election. Schitt came out today and lied saying Trump cheated in 2016 and that if he wins in 2020 it’s be because he cheated essentially de-legitimizing the 2020 election if it doesn’t turn out the way they want. These people are Stalinists in every sense of the word. I don’t want to hear any Republicans using the McCain, “Our friends across the aisle” line anymore. The sooner they realize they have no friends across the aisle, the more in tune they’ll be with reality. The last time the demokrats became this unhinged over the election of a Republican President (1860) it didn’t turn out so well for our country.
@Greg: I read it no privacy in donations so they can target donors.
Dems have lost the union supporters so they want to attack that front as well.
Nationalize the election????!!!! no the founders would not have been in favor of that.
The States effectively fought off the cyber attack of Obamas DHS. Not a single vote cast was changed.
They fight voter ID tooth and nail with soft racism.
Its federal take over and expansion, more centralized federal control, I hope Mictch tossed it in the shit can where it belongs.
@Greg: Yeah, all those abortion clinics are still in wait of being officially named for a liberal. Really important crap. Only now does Pelosi FINALLY bring USMCA up for a vote… TRUMP’S trade treaty. A TREATY, Greg, not some dope deal created just for headlines which he tries to keep as far away from Congressional scrutiny as possible, ala Obama.
The “For the Democrats and Democrats Only” bill needs to be shitcanned. It was nothing but a blatant attempt by a political party to ensure permanent single-party rule and codify voter fraud.
If it was so clear, why did Schiff and the rest feel the need to LIE about every aspect?
Stalin certainly approved… when HE did it.
@another vet:
Sound familiar? This is what they predicted Trump would do when it was assured Hillary’s fraud and collusion was giving her the shoe-in. One wonders why they aren’t impeaching Trump for being accused of thinking that, too.
Growing divide between Trump and McConnell over impeachment trial
@Greg:
No he is not. None of his voters think that. Show me a clear breach of law not driven by partisan hysteria and from sources that don’t have a history of manufacturing false allegations…then there might be a case.
Accuse him of something the Democrats aren’t already doing and be caught for…then there might be a case.
In the end, haters gonna hate.
@Greg:
Hahahaha…
So, Trump is accused of doing what the Dems just did, with the public spectacle meant to generate soundbytes for the media!!!
You prove my point…every day.
@Nathan Blue:
The law requires that people comply with congressional subpoenas. Here are 13 Trump associates who did not, who had first-hand knowledge concerning various aspects of the Ukraine situation:
John Eisenberg
Michael Duffy
Thomas Ulrich Brechbuhl
Russell Vought
Rick Perry
John Bolton
Mick Mulvaney
Wells Griffith
Robert Blair
Michael Ellis
Brian McCormack
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Pompeo
It’s clear as day what Trump was up to—and what effin’ Guiliani continues to be up to, even after their bullshit was revealed. It’s not hysteria to be outraged. If you want to see a bit of infantile ranting and raving, have a look at Trump’s most recent Twitter posts.
I hope McConnell lets Trump have his way with the Senate trail. They need to let all of their conspiracy theory lunacy out of the bag where it can be plainly seen. It will be like the center-ring unloading of a clown car.
@Greg: The Party is over grab you bag of party favors and kiss bubye. The have the articles of impeachment all written you won!
Now we will take care of the Russia boogey man.
READ: Articles of impeachment against President Trump
There could have been more, but there are only two. Focus and clarity are apparently the watchwords. This will make it harder to misdirect and confuse the public. They’re going to fire for effect at two clearly marked targets.
@Greg: Sure, there could have been more. Much more. There’s no limit if you don’t have to worry about evidence and stuff. As long as you are just making shit up, you are only limited by your imagination. As we have seen.
Trump did exactly what he is accused of doing, and more. The problem is that followers and enablers really don’t give a damn.
@Greg: He may have done exactly what he is blamed for but not for the reasons they say, he had the power and authority as President. That authority needs to be protected from the co equal branch trying to co op its powers.
Not allowing the House to boss around the executive branch using lawfare, instead them going to court and exhausting appeals is not obstruction its our system as designed. Guess who passed those laws allowing the President and his men to exercise that right
The targets so clearly painted depend on mind reading and hearsay, psychic powers
They removed all crimes bribery etc because the federal statute relies on a US official being bribed, last time we checked the Ukraine President wasnt one of those.
Nancy going to the climate shindig was she trying to violate the Logan act?
@Greg:
Yes it was: doing his job as President.
After all that “show” we just got for the past few months, and they couldn’t even come up with anything approaching viable articles of impeachment.
Meanwhile, USMCA passed today.
Historic win for our country, this White House, and this President.
@Greg:
What does that even mean, you dumb windbag?
Sure…Trump did whatever his losing opposition said he did…with their own agenda in mind.
The accusations would never even garner an indictment in normal courts, and they won’t go anywhere even in the impeachment.
We are a nation of laws, and the Democrats are taking advantage of something they shouldn’t…
Now…let’s take a look at Schiff et al behavior for legal misconduct…hmmmm…
What goes around…
…comes around…with indictments.
@Nathan Blue:
More than that he was doing the job we Elected him to do.
We gave him that Power that authority.
@Nathan Blue, #30:
Among other things, it means that the House hasn’t included a separate Article of Impeachment addressing the Obstruction of Justice that Part 2 of Robert Mueller’s report detailed at length. As those of us without memory deficits will recall, there were 10 specific obstructive acts that were discussed.
@kitt, #31:
He has the authority that the Constitution gives any president. He cannot confer more upon himself, nor can his followers. He thinks the power and authority reside in himself, but he only holds an office.
@Greg: We remember darlin none of the 10 things even combined had Mueller suggesting they amounted to a hill o beans, he let it up to Bar to decide and it was decided no obstruction no collusion. FULLY EXONERATED.
From the IG report:
Omitted information the FBI had obtained from another U.S. government agency(CIA) detailing its prior relationship with Page, including that Page had been approved as an “operational contact” for the other agency from 2008 to 2013, and that Page had provided information to the other agency concerning his prior contacts with certain Russian intelligence officers, one of which overlapped with facts asserted in the FISA application.
(he worked with the CIA to convict a spy but needed to be spyed on?, any wonder there were no charges against this guy, why hide that from the FISA court)
Nobody proclaimed Total Exoneration but the Very Stable Genius himself. That’s not what the report said.
@Greg: TOTAL EXONERATION Mueller under oath stated so.
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1154015749100441601/video/1
@Greg:
You would have some credibility if you could provide some proof of that. Opinions don’t make it so… or don’t you know that?
Nope, he mentioned things that MIGHT (if you close one eye and squint the other) APPEAR to be obstruction. Yet, when questioned under oath, he stated unequivocally there was NO OBSTRUCTION.
Actually, if Greg testifies in front of the House. It would be evidence. And bang, theirs the proof needed to but Trump away!
Hey, Greg, why didnt they write articles of impeachment on Trump for not providing his tax returns? You was so sure of that one. Oh, thats right, it’s because no one testifed that they heard from a friend of a friend, who knows someone that may had prepared a tax return.
Dont worry, your still me hero.
RLTW
@Greg:
I’m not sure what country you’re sitting in when you write this garbage, but in our country, you are innocent until proven guilty. Being “non-guilty” means you’re not convicted of a crime…no exoneration needed…
Non-exoneration is a way for your party to imply “he’s guilty of something..if we just try hard enough…if we just…*closes eyes and strains*….BELIEVE!”
What’s being attempted now on Trump is called a miscarriage of justice…lying and fabricating a crime where none exist.
The majority of Americans know it, and aren’t even listening to the Dem party anymore.
@Greg:
Correct. No one’s conferred more power on him. He’s just so damn effective that it burns your party to see they were wrong. The myth of Trump “conferring more power” hasn’t gone very far, as the meme your pushing, so you might want to try something else.
Haters gonna hate.
@Skyshark91, #38:
Because, Oh Snarky One, lower court rulings that he must provide them are still under appeal.
If the Supreme Court declines to hear the case, or rules that they must be provided, he will either do so, or openly defy a second co-equal branch of government. Then he might become the first president to be impeached twice, or the first president removed under Section 4 of the 25th Amendment.
@ Greg 41
You really think they didn’t write articles because a lower court still has them under appeal? So after the Dems loose the House and by an off Chance Biden wins the Presidency. I guess the Reps can impeach him. With Real Evidence.
I was wrong….
Your not my hero. but don’t worry neither is Trump.
He is just the President of the United States.
“Fortuna Favet Fortibus” RLTW
@Greg:
So Obama should have been impeached for enacting by executive order the Dream Act, legislation that had twice been rejected by Congress. He still CAN be, you know.
Get this: the House impeachment articles are merely charges… ACCUSATIONS. When the Senate votes it down, it means Trump is INNOCENT of the charges. Like that?
@Greg: Not guilty, no charges, no Russians chacha cha no COLLUSION, sky screaming aint going to help. Mueller confirms under oath and penalty of perjury his investigation was not curtailed, stopped, or hindered at any point. No OBSTRUCTION.
EXONERATED
If there was never any Russians as clearly laid out in the IG report
TOTALLY EXONERATED
Then there are the criminal investigations of Durham, who is going down for that shit? The Democrats have become court Stalkers of the President, that bitchy ex that uses the court system to harass, filing false police reports ect. (in this case the White House they lost custody of) Greg and those like him the ex Mother-in-laws from hell
@KITT: And, of course, some Democrats are envisioning Trump winning in 2020 and vowing they will impeach him THEN, too. Because, you know, they respect the Constitution and don’t take impeachment lightly, regard it as a solemn duty, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Democrats need to be PURGED from government. They are irresponsible and dangerous.
@Deplorable Me: Yes without foot soldiers the NWO will fail to overthrow our Republic.
We need another Mc Carthy, to name the NGOs sucking off the government grant teat that spread Unamerican ideology.
https://www.fox47news.com/news/local-news/student-says-teacher-pulled-off-her-women-for-trump-pin?fbclid=IwAR20T_HDYtxbLweCCttcG6_3dnmpz3PF_n20PlRonc1bjTIbyOPXohVl60Y
@kitt: To his credit, Graham is totally embarrassing Horowitz and the FBI. He clearly lays out that what the report exposes is NOT simply “oopsies”. He points out how the FBI took the courtesy to inform Feinstein about her long-time Chinese agent/staffer but did NOT give Trump that courtesy.
@Deplorable Me: There were no russians not friggin one that got into Trumps orbit. A couple that were sent to meet with Jr at Trump tower, other than natasha bait and switch where be the Rooskis?
You dont think they would security brief him the US government was spying do you?
The Dude from the NSA had to warn Trump and was fired for it.
Barry and Stinky were in on the whole thing from step 1.
Fox is covering Graham’s remarks in full. MSNBC has the video but is talking over it. They say that they will let us know if anything important comes up. CNN mentioned that Graham said that the Russians hacked the DNC, not Ukraine (which is NOT the argument; the argument is that Crowdstrike is owned by a Ukrainian and THEY told the FBI that the Russians hacked the DNC). The liberal media is suppressing Graham’s statement because he is tearing Horowitz and the deep state coup, the FBI scum that perpetrated this coup, a new asshole.
Now, WHY does the liberal media not want Graham’s remarks? Well, because he is relating FACTS, not “parody” that promotes the Democrat agenda.
AND when Feinstein speaks, MSNBC airs her remarks in full. Well, at least there is no bias in the media.