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Bill
7 years ago
The left is getting pretty nervous about Cruz. The Dallas Morning News happily prints letter after letter demonizing him.
kitt
7 years ago
Mark Levin as moderator at a democrat debate, I would go for a pay for view.
Greg
7 years ago
That would be the same Ted Cruz who was a guest speaker, along with Mike Huckabee and Bobby Jindal, at the National Religious Liberties Conference in Des Moines, Iowa, sharing a stage this raving lunatic?
It’s not like he wasn’t warned ahead of time that the man is a hate-mongering fundamentalist psycho. Cruz is either comfortable with this sort of extremism, or his campaign strategists have unbelievably poor judgement about the events he’ll attend. I suppose you can take your pick. Either way, he’s setting himself up to get demolished.
I should have named the guy in the link to his video. Kevin Swanson. Probably not the best person for any presidential hopeful to be associated with. His rhetoric is totally over the top.
kitt
7 years ago
I seriously doubt voters are looking into who is on stage before or after the candidates its the venue thats important. Now if any of them were a member of his church. (gives me visions of Reverend Wright)
Bill
7 years ago
@Greg: Please. Obama. Sharpton. You can’t get much worse than that except for “klock kid” stopping off to hug a mass murderer before his honor of the invite to the White House.
Why do things only bother you if you can pin it on a Republican?
Greg
7 years ago
I’m watching the republican debates. Ted Cruz has a tax plan. Payroll taxes are abolished. Everybody pays a flat tax. The American economy is unshackled.! The engines of capitalism are unleashed!
How does this work out in the real world? the moderator inquires. How do we meet the bills with this sort of system?
Go to TedCruz.org, he answers. It’s all explained.
So, I go. As I suspected, nothing is explained. He’ll take a weed whacker to the federal government. He’ll eliminate 25 listed Agencies, Bureaus, Commissions, and programs, and that’s just a start! This will produce estimated savings of over $500,000,000,000 in 10 years!
Does Ted think we’re idiots? (A rhetorical question.) The number with all the zeros would be $500 billion. Over 10 years, that works out to $50 billion in savings per year. This amount is nothing, compared with the overall size of the annual federal budget.
So where’s that explanation of how his flat rate tax plan will somehow increase revenue? I found this page, with links to nowhere. And finally this page, no thanks to the TedCruz.org website directory, which doesn’t seem to exist.
So, is this suppose to be the explanation of how this works in reality? Because it’s nothing actually more than another sales pitch for pig in a poke.
kitt
7 years ago
@Greg: You like to search, tell me how many agencies does the federal government have? I dont think we should stop at a measly 25 agencies, I believe a couple of hundred could killed off. So many are duplicated at state level.
Didn’t you vote for Obama… Twice? Aren’t you supporting Hillary?
Try again.
This is what liberals never understand. It’s not just what you take out or put in; the effect on the economy is critical. Bush’s tax cuts INCREASED revenues by increasing economic activity which creates more wealth that can be taxed. Also, cutting Obamacare will save $2 trillion.
@Ditto: Or being introduced into political society by terrorist Ayers. However INVITING the tax-cheating race-baiter Sharpton INTO the White House is despicable. No, only Republicans hang around with “nuts”.
Thanks for proving (not that regular commenters here weren’t painfully aware already) of what shameless far left hack you are.
Would that your newfound eagerness for financial details existed before Obama ran for office…not that it would have mattered since as a leftist you have no relationship with truth, reality or integrity.
We are supposed to believe that you are concerned about fiscal vaguery in Cruz’s plan to do away with the Marxist-based progressive income tax system?
Obamacare now has 13 co-ops that have collapsed because of the predicted fiscal insanity a socialist health care system pretending to be a free market system inherently is. $2.5 billion the federal government has reneged on these obamacare insurance scams, resulting in hundreds of thousands of folks losing the mandatory insurance plans they were forced into. $50 billion per year is a good START to dismantling the leftist crony political system of theft your far left syncophants call “wealth redistribution”.
We all wait with baited breath your in depth analyses of Hillary’s and Bernie’s plans from their public statements and websites on balancing the budget, paying for a national socialist health care system, giving “free” college to all, bring an estimated 11 to 35 million illegal aliens onto the welfare roles, and repealing the 2nd Amendment.
You somehow neglected to mention that I didn’t say anything in that post that isn’t true.
Have you not yet figured out that republicans are looking for another scheme to transfer more money and resources upward? Everything they do involves a redirection of money and resources upward. Fiscal responsibility is the cover story. When you’re running deficits, cutting taxes at the top end of the scale is not a fiscally responsible move.
I am concerned about Cruz because he is a demagogue. Much of the GOP field exhibits the same tendency to appeal to anger, fears, and prejudices rather than to reason, but Cruz, in my opinion, is the worst. He is also the one who seems to have made a study of the techniques of oratorical crowd manipulation. It worries me that this can be as apparent as it is without audiences seeming to detecting it. That’s always a warning flag, in my opinion.
Greg
7 years ago
By the way, where is this “economic catastrophe” that America is supposedly “in the middle of?” I don’t know what that babble is about. Didn’t any of the republican hopefuls read the October 2015 jobs report?
Have you not yet figured out that republicans are looking for another scheme to transfer more money and resources upward?
Gee, who has been President while the “income inequality” has gotten monumentally worse and the middle class has suffered? I don’t think Obama is a Republican, Greg.
Bush cut taxes AND reduced deficits. If not for the liberal Community Reinvestment Act, we would still be cutting the debt.
Jobs report? Look again; tell me how many are full time and how many are seasonal part time. Yeah, economic disaster. Obama.
That would be Obama. It sure as hell hasn’t got anything to do with the GOP, which hasn’t put forward any jobs programs or legislation in years, despite their campaign claims that jobs were their top priority, and despite having majorities in both houses of Congress for going on a year.
Not everyone is participating in the right’s self-imposed positive information blackout. Some people still live in a factual reality where news can be both positive and negative.
Redteam
7 years ago
@kitt: While I like Levin, he is prejudiced also. He is an ‘establishment’ Republican.
Redteam
7 years ago
@Greg: But Greg, how does the 50 billion a year savings under Cruz compare with Obama’s performance. He’s about a Trillion a year deficit. let’s see, a trillion divided by 50 billion is about 20 times worse. So I guess you don’t mind if we continue a trillion a year deficit as long as it’s a Dimocrat doing the spending.
retire05
7 years ago
This employment-to-population ratio is down from nearly 80% in 2007, but it is up from a low point of 75% in 2011. One troubling sign is that it hasn’t increased at all this year despite the fact that the economy over the year has added more than two million jobs.
The Hamilton Project, a think tank affiliated with the Brookings Institution, examines the “jobs gap” every month, or the number of jobs needed to return to prerecession employment levels while accounting for new workers entering the labor force.
It estimated that at the end of October, the economy needed around 2.9 million jobs to reach workforce-adjusted, prerecession employment levels. Using the pace of job growth over the prior year, it would take until March 2017 to reach that mark.
I thought everything was Bush’s fault. So everything that happens from now out is Obama?
There are a helluva lot less full time employees working today than there were when Obozo took office.l
Redteam
7 years ago
@Greg: Using the numbers from your link. pre’recession numbers were 122 million full time employees in the US. At the end of Sept it was almost exactly that same number, 121.8 million (a little less) meanwhile the US population was 301 million pre-recession and 318.9 million now. so, using those numbers, employment was at 40.5 % then and it is at 38.25% now. If the percentage had remained constant, then 7.16 million more people would have a full time job now. So if there are 7.16 million more available that don’t have a job then wouldn’t that make the ‘unemployment’ rate higher than it was back then. I did ok in my math classes and if there are over 7 million more unemployed persons that can not be a ‘good’ thing. Quit using Obozo math if you want truth.
For YOU – or any leftist hack – to call Cruz a demagogue is a gutbusting howler of hypocrisy on par with leftist claims of an economic recovery under Obama.
Let me clarify your stupid leftist greed:
“Conservatives are GREEDYSELFISHBASTARDS because they want to stop leftist political hacks from using the government to STEAL what is produced by hard work, to enslave the lazy and the uneducated with the poisonous drug of welfare entitlements while pretending to ‘care’ about the so-called poor.”
You are as ignorant as you are self-absorbed in your misguided sense of erroneous self-righteousness.
Your new demands for economic specificity ring deafeningly hollow – as I mentioned before – given your immature, unquestioning devotion to the obvious economic disaster and blatant lies Obama and his ilk spewed over obamacare. Lies that have been shown repeatedly with each and every failure of obamacare since its deceitful partisan cramming.
Bill
7 years ago
@Greg: Participation rate. All time low. Number of people without jobs at an all-time high. Wages down.
And it only cost $9 trillion.
Rich Wheeler
7 years ago
@Redteam: What is YOUR definition of prejudiced.
Why is Levin prejudiced?
noun
1.
an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2.
any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
3.
unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding an ethnic, racial, social, or religious group.
That about covers ‘prejudice’
Why? is Levin prejudiced? I don’t know, maybe his mother taught him wrong, or one of his teachers.
All that aside. within the Republican party, (and likely other parties) there are differences of opinion. There are the ‘establishment’ ones that believe the national Republican Party is doing the right thing. The ‘anti-establishment’ ones think the establishment ones are typical ‘sold out’ politicians. The Tea Party would be examples of ‘anti’ estab’ also Donald Trump. Estab would be Jeb Bush, Levin, Karl Rove, George Will. etc.
The retired population is at an all-time high. It’s a result of the Baby Boomers retiring. This has been coming for decades.
And why would republicans suddenly be whining about low wages? Do republicans think the serfs aren’t earning enough? That would certainly be a shift of attitude. Corporate America has done everything in their power over the past few decades to find their way to the lowest possible labor-cost environments. They’ve killed unions. They’ve stripped away employment related benefits, and unloaded pension and health insurance promises onto the American taxpayer. They’ve off-shored tens-of-millions of jobs American jobs, putting American labor into direct competition with overseas labor pools that work for peanuts. And as much as they hate to admit it, they resisted efforts to restrict hiring to the legal domestic labor market, not wanting to burden employers with any responsibility for hiring undocumented workers. Now their line-up of political tools are attempting to exploit the consequences of their own irresponsibility.
Redteam
7 years ago
@Greg: They are not ‘whining’ about low wages, they are ‘whining’ about a piss poor economy. One where people are not employed and making any wage, not a low wage. If someone such as Obozo is elected and he runs up the deficit more than all US presidents before him (as Obozo has done) then that means you have to more than double the deficit, to about 40 trillion.
Rich Wheeler
7 years ago
@Redteam: “Maybe his mother taught him wrong or one of his teachers.” Seriously–How is he prejudiced?
Do you put Dr.Carson with Trump in the anti-establishment group? Do you think he would make a good President?
Mully
7 years ago
@Greg:
Yeah and look who has been president for the last 7 years? Any of this gotten better? We were promised 500k jobs per month once the stimulus got implemented. What happened to the 500k? Not one month in the last 7 years have wee seen that number. And what about the jobs, what kind are they? When Bush was in office the media would always tell us about the poor quality of jobs being created, with Obama, not so much.
Obama’s jobs czar was Jeff Immelt, CEO of GE, who has moved jobs out of the country and shut down plants while working for Obama.
The retired population is at an all-time high. It’s a result of the Baby Boomers retiring. This has been coming for decades.
When a liberal is doing the damage, the excuses can sure get weak, Greg. People retire all the time. However, loads of people are opting for early retirement as their jobs disappear or become part time, thanks to Obamacare and the horrific Obama economy.
And why would republicans suddenly be whining about low wages? Do republicans think the serfs aren’t earning enough?
You are a victim of your own self-generated misconceptions. Republicans always work for a broader economy which includes more and provides more better paying jobs. It would be the left that simply gives up on the economy and takes the easy way out by demanding $15 an hour for $7 an hour jobs, which is all their economy produces and, recently, about all that is left.
When a project, privately funded like the Keystone, comes around with the promise of tens of thousands of well-paying jobs (even if on for 5 years or so) the left nixes it to support their global warming scam; who doesn’t care about jobs or wages, Greg? We see plenty of wealthy leftists getting richer off Obama’s quantitative easing to keep his weak economy afloat; without the printing of money to loan at 0%, where would we be?
Unions priced themselves out of the labor market, mostly replaced with machines. This and your social justice taxation system has driven businesses and jobs off shore (I can’t help but notice no left wing or union crying over GE or GM sending jobs to China). Your left wing open borders policy of rewarding illegal immigration drives lower-end wages down. Every one of your silly and weak excuses has a liberal root cause.
“Maybe his mother taught him wrong or one of his teachers.” Seriously–How is he prejudiced?
That was included in 25, if you missed it, go back and read again.
Do you put Dr.Carson with Trump in the anti-establishment group? Do you think he would make a good President?
Carson is certainly ‘anti-establishment’ Republican. Do I think he would make a ‘good’ president. If your standard is Obama, who can only be rated as ‘terrible’ at best then there would be a low threshold to be ‘good’. If he were to be compared to an ‘outstanding’ pres such as Ronald Reagan then he would likely only come out as ‘good’.
We need a Netanyahu, too bad he’s not an American.
They are not ‘whining’ about low wages, they are ‘whining’ about a piss poor economy.
The “economic catastrophe” we’re supposedly in the middle of is a figment of the republican imagination, and one that they’ve been working 24/7 to sell since Obama was elected. The U.S. GDP is presently at the highest level in the nation’s history. The problem is that the benefits of economic gains are not being realized by the nation’s working and middle classes, and have not been since the end of the Clinton years.
Have a look at this chart comparing per capita GDP by year with real median household income. The blue line is the GDP, which is a direct reflection of the level of economic activity. (If there were truly an “economic catastrophe” underway, that line would not be at its highest point in history and trending upward.) The red line reflects the median income of American households.
Do you expect republicans to tell the truth about this? A truthful statement about the economy would go something like this:
The U.S. economy is producing more wealth now than it has at any previous point in U.S. history, but the gains are not going to working and middle class Americans. The gains are all going to somebody else, and they have been for quite a long time now.
I suppose they might then ask if anyone has any questions about this incontestable fact.
Randy
7 years ago
@Greg: Thank you for your reference to the chart. The red line is the important line. It makes the point that the economy sucks. Is this another joking post Greg? Are you pretending you can not interpret a graph? Maybe you are demonstrating what a common core education will look like!
Do you not understand the simple truth that the problem cannot possibly be a weak economy when the Gross Domestic Product is the highest it has ever been in the history of the United States?
If the economy is producing wealth at a record level—if this is a time of great abundance—why is real household income falling? Where do you think the benefits of record levels of production are going?
Redteam
7 years ago
@Randy: So true, Randy. Greg doesn’t recognize that for every 114 a family was making when Obama took office they are now making 104. That doesn’t really seem to be ‘better off’. Plus the fact that there are 10 million more people ‘not working’ in the labor force compared to when he took office, plus the fact that he has added more to the deficit than all presidents total prior to him. He has increased the deficient from 4 Trillion up to 19 Trillion. He has borrowed from our future for many years. When you look up the word Catastrophe in the dictionary, it has a picture of Obama.
Redteam
7 years ago
@Greg: I would suggest you read the notes at the bottom of your graphs, it would tell you that the Rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. Gross income for everything is included in GDP but median household shows how the ‘average’ households are actually doing. Hint: they are getting poorer.
The left is getting pretty nervous about Cruz. The Dallas Morning News happily prints letter after letter demonizing him.
Mark Levin as moderator at a democrat debate, I would go for a pay for view.
That would be the same Ted Cruz who was a guest speaker, along with Mike Huckabee and Bobby Jindal, at the National Religious Liberties Conference in Des Moines, Iowa, sharing a stage this raving lunatic?
It’s not like he wasn’t warned ahead of time that the man is a hate-mongering fundamentalist psycho. Cruz is either comfortable with this sort of extremism, or his campaign strategists have unbelievably poor judgement about the events he’ll attend. I suppose you can take your pick. Either way, he’s setting himself up to get demolished.
@Greg: Of whom do you speak?
I should have named the guy in the link to his video. Kevin Swanson. Probably not the best person for any presidential hopeful to be associated with. His rhetoric is totally over the top.
I seriously doubt voters are looking into who is on stage before or after the candidates its the venue thats important. Now if any of them were a member of his church. (gives me visions of Reverend Wright)
@Greg: Please. Obama. Sharpton. You can’t get much worse than that except for “klock kid” stopping off to hug a mass murderer before his honor of the invite to the White House.
Why do things only bother you if you can pin it on a Republican?
I’m watching the republican debates. Ted Cruz has a tax plan. Payroll taxes are abolished. Everybody pays a flat tax. The American economy is unshackled.! The engines of capitalism are unleashed!
How does this work out in the real world? the moderator inquires. How do we meet the bills with this sort of system?
Go to TedCruz.org, he answers. It’s all explained.
So, I go. As I suspected, nothing is explained. He’ll take a weed whacker to the federal government. He’ll eliminate 25 listed Agencies, Bureaus, Commissions, and programs, and that’s just a start! This will produce estimated savings of over $500,000,000,000 in 10 years!
Does Ted think we’re idiots? (A rhetorical question.) The number with all the zeros would be $500 billion. Over 10 years, that works out to $50 billion in savings per year. This amount is nothing, compared with the overall size of the annual federal budget.
So where’s that explanation of how his flat rate tax plan will somehow increase revenue? I found this page, with links to nowhere. And finally this page, no thanks to the TedCruz.org website directory, which doesn’t seem to exist.
So, is this suppose to be the explanation of how this works in reality? Because it’s nothing actually more than another sales pitch for pig in a poke.
@Greg: You like to search, tell me how many agencies does the federal government have? I dont think we should stop at a measly 25 agencies, I believe a couple of hundred could killed off. So many are duplicated at state level.
@Bill:
Interesting that Greg had nothing to say about Obama hanging around and attending “Raving Lunatic” Rev Jeremiah Wright’s radical leftist Church.
@Greg:
Didn’t you vote for Obama… Twice? Aren’t you supporting Hillary?
Try again.
This is what liberals never understand. It’s not just what you take out or put in; the effect on the economy is critical. Bush’s tax cuts INCREASED revenues by increasing economic activity which creates more wealth that can be taxed. Also, cutting Obamacare will save $2 trillion.
@Ditto: Or being introduced into political society by terrorist Ayers. However INVITING the tax-cheating race-baiter Sharpton INTO the White House is despicable. No, only Republicans hang around with “nuts”.
@Greg:
Thanks for proving (not that regular commenters here weren’t painfully aware already) of what shameless far left hack you are.
Would that your newfound eagerness for financial details existed before Obama ran for office…not that it would have mattered since as a leftist you have no relationship with truth, reality or integrity.
We are supposed to believe that you are concerned about fiscal vaguery in Cruz’s plan to do away with the Marxist-based progressive income tax system?
Obamacare now has 13 co-ops that have collapsed because of the predicted fiscal insanity a socialist health care system pretending to be a free market system inherently is. $2.5 billion the federal government has reneged on these obamacare insurance scams, resulting in hundreds of thousands of folks losing the mandatory insurance plans they were forced into. $50 billion per year is a good START to dismantling the leftist crony political system of theft your far left syncophants call “wealth redistribution”.
We all wait with baited breath your in depth analyses of Hillary’s and Bernie’s plans from their public statements and websites on balancing the budget, paying for a national socialist health care system, giving “free” college to all, bring an estimated 11 to 35 million illegal aliens onto the welfare roles, and repealing the 2nd Amendment.
@Pete, #12:
You somehow neglected to mention that I didn’t say anything in that post that isn’t true.
Have you not yet figured out that republicans are looking for another scheme to transfer more money and resources upward? Everything they do involves a redirection of money and resources upward. Fiscal responsibility is the cover story. When you’re running deficits, cutting taxes at the top end of the scale is not a fiscally responsible move.
I am concerned about Cruz because he is a demagogue. Much of the GOP field exhibits the same tendency to appeal to anger, fears, and prejudices rather than to reason, but Cruz, in my opinion, is the worst. He is also the one who seems to have made a study of the techniques of oratorical crowd manipulation. It worries me that this can be as apparent as it is without audiences seeming to detecting it. That’s always a warning flag, in my opinion.
By the way, where is this “economic catastrophe” that America is supposedly “in the middle of?” I don’t know what that babble is about. Didn’t any of the republican hopefuls read the October 2015 jobs report?
@Greg:
Gee, who has been President while the “income inequality” has gotten monumentally worse and the middle class has suffered? I don’t think Obama is a Republican, Greg.
Bush cut taxes AND reduced deficits. If not for the liberal Community Reinvestment Act, we would still be cutting the debt.
Jobs report? Look again; tell me how many are full time and how many are seasonal part time. Yeah, economic disaster. Obama.
@Bill, #15:
Maybe you should look at it yourself. From the Wall Street Journal, November 6, 2015:
Jobs Report: Full-Time Employment Now Above Where It Was Before the Recession
That would be Obama. It sure as hell hasn’t got anything to do with the GOP, which hasn’t put forward any jobs programs or legislation in years, despite their campaign claims that jobs were their top priority, and despite having majorities in both houses of Congress for going on a year.
Not everyone is participating in the right’s self-imposed positive information blackout. Some people still live in a factual reality where news can be both positive and negative.
@kitt: While I like Levin, he is prejudiced also. He is an ‘establishment’ Republican.
@Greg: But Greg, how does the 50 billion a year savings under Cruz compare with Obama’s performance. He’s about a Trillion a year deficit. let’s see, a trillion divided by 50 billion is about 20 times worse. So I guess you don’t mind if we continue a trillion a year deficit as long as it’s a Dimocrat doing the spending.
This employment-to-population ratio is down from nearly 80% in 2007, but it is up from a low point of 75% in 2011. One troubling sign is that it hasn’t increased at all this year despite the fact that the economy over the year has added more than two million jobs.
The Hamilton Project, a think tank affiliated with the Brookings Institution, examines the “jobs gap” every month, or the number of jobs needed to return to prerecession employment levels while accounting for new workers entering the labor force.
It estimated that at the end of October, the economy needed around 2.9 million jobs to reach workforce-adjusted, prerecession employment levels. Using the pace of job growth over the prior year, it would take until March 2017 to reach that mark.
@Greg:
I thought everything was Bush’s fault. So everything that happens from now out is Obama?
There are a helluva lot less full time employees working today than there were when Obozo took office.l
@Greg: Using the numbers from your link. pre’recession numbers were 122 million full time employees in the US. At the end of Sept it was almost exactly that same number, 121.8 million (a little less) meanwhile the US population was 301 million pre-recession and 318.9 million now. so, using those numbers, employment was at 40.5 % then and it is at 38.25% now. If the percentage had remained constant, then 7.16 million more people would have a full time job now. So if there are 7.16 million more available that don’t have a job then wouldn’t that make the ‘unemployment’ rate higher than it was back then. I did ok in my math classes and if there are over 7 million more unemployed persons that can not be a ‘good’ thing. Quit using Obozo math if you want truth.
@Greg:
Greg, everything you say is untruthful.
For YOU – or any leftist hack – to call Cruz a demagogue is a gutbusting howler of hypocrisy on par with leftist claims of an economic recovery under Obama.
Let me clarify your stupid leftist greed:
“Conservatives are GREEDYSELFISHBASTARDS because they want to stop leftist political hacks from using the government to STEAL what is produced by hard work, to enslave the lazy and the uneducated with the poisonous drug of welfare entitlements while pretending to ‘care’ about the so-called poor.”
You are as ignorant as you are self-absorbed in your misguided sense of erroneous self-righteousness.
Your new demands for economic specificity ring deafeningly hollow – as I mentioned before – given your immature, unquestioning devotion to the obvious economic disaster and blatant lies Obama and his ilk spewed over obamacare. Lies that have been shown repeatedly with each and every failure of obamacare since its deceitful partisan cramming.
@Greg: Participation rate. All time low. Number of people without jobs at an all-time high. Wages down.
And it only cost $9 trillion.
@Redteam: What is YOUR definition of prejudiced.
Why is Levin prejudiced?
@Rich Wheeler:
prejudice
[prej-uh-dis]
noun
1.
an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2.
any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
3.
unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding an ethnic, racial, social, or religious group.
That about covers ‘prejudice’
Why? is Levin prejudiced? I don’t know, maybe his mother taught him wrong, or one of his teachers.
All that aside. within the Republican party, (and likely other parties) there are differences of opinion. There are the ‘establishment’ ones that believe the national Republican Party is doing the right thing. The ‘anti-establishment’ ones think the establishment ones are typical ‘sold out’ politicians. The Tea Party would be examples of ‘anti’ estab’ also Donald Trump. Estab would be Jeb Bush, Levin, Karl Rove, George Will. etc.
@Bill, #23:
The retired population is at an all-time high. It’s a result of the Baby Boomers retiring. This has been coming for decades.
And why would republicans suddenly be whining about low wages? Do republicans think the serfs aren’t earning enough? That would certainly be a shift of attitude. Corporate America has done everything in their power over the past few decades to find their way to the lowest possible labor-cost environments. They’ve killed unions. They’ve stripped away employment related benefits, and unloaded pension and health insurance promises onto the American taxpayer. They’ve off-shored tens-of-millions of jobs American jobs, putting American labor into direct competition with overseas labor pools that work for peanuts. And as much as they hate to admit it, they resisted efforts to restrict hiring to the legal domestic labor market, not wanting to burden employers with any responsibility for hiring undocumented workers. Now their line-up of political tools are attempting to exploit the consequences of their own irresponsibility.
@Greg: They are not ‘whining’ about low wages, they are ‘whining’ about a piss poor economy. One where people are not employed and making any wage, not a low wage. If someone such as Obozo is elected and he runs up the deficit more than all US presidents before him (as Obozo has done) then that means you have to more than double the deficit, to about 40 trillion.
@Redteam: “Maybe his mother taught him wrong or one of his teachers.” Seriously–How is he prejudiced?
Do you put Dr.Carson with Trump in the anti-establishment group? Do you think he would make a good President?
@Greg:
Yeah and look who has been president for the last 7 years? Any of this gotten better? We were promised 500k jobs per month once the stimulus got implemented. What happened to the 500k? Not one month in the last 7 years have wee seen that number. And what about the jobs, what kind are they? When Bush was in office the media would always tell us about the poor quality of jobs being created, with Obama, not so much.
Obama’s jobs czar was Jeff Immelt, CEO of GE, who has moved jobs out of the country and shut down plants while working for Obama.
@Greg:
When a liberal is doing the damage, the excuses can sure get weak, Greg. People retire all the time. However, loads of people are opting for early retirement as their jobs disappear or become part time, thanks to Obamacare and the horrific Obama economy.
You are a victim of your own self-generated misconceptions. Republicans always work for a broader economy which includes more and provides more better paying jobs. It would be the left that simply gives up on the economy and takes the easy way out by demanding $15 an hour for $7 an hour jobs, which is all their economy produces and, recently, about all that is left.
When a project, privately funded like the Keystone, comes around with the promise of tens of thousands of well-paying jobs (even if on for 5 years or so) the left nixes it to support their global warming scam; who doesn’t care about jobs or wages, Greg? We see plenty of wealthy leftists getting richer off Obama’s quantitative easing to keep his weak economy afloat; without the printing of money to loan at 0%, where would we be?
Unions priced themselves out of the labor market, mostly replaced with machines. This and your social justice taxation system has driven businesses and jobs off shore (I can’t help but notice no left wing or union crying over GE or GM sending jobs to China). Your left wing open borders policy of rewarding illegal immigration drives lower-end wages down. Every one of your silly and weak excuses has a liberal root cause.
Don’t hand me that crap.
@Rich Wheeler:
That was included in 25, if you missed it, go back and read again.
Carson is certainly ‘anti-establishment’ Republican. Do I think he would make a ‘good’ president. If your standard is Obama, who can only be rated as ‘terrible’ at best then there would be a low threshold to be ‘good’. If he were to be compared to an ‘outstanding’ pres such as Ronald Reagan then he would likely only come out as ‘good’.
We need a Netanyahu, too bad he’s not an American.
@Redteam, #27:
The “economic catastrophe” we’re supposedly in the middle of is a figment of the republican imagination, and one that they’ve been working 24/7 to sell since Obama was elected. The U.S. GDP is presently at the highest level in the nation’s history. The problem is that the benefits of economic gains are not being realized by the nation’s working and middle classes, and have not been since the end of the Clinton years.
Have a look at this chart comparing per capita GDP by year with real median household income. The blue line is the GDP, which is a direct reflection of the level of economic activity. (If there were truly an “economic catastrophe” underway, that line would not be at its highest point in history and trending upward.) The red line reflects the median income of American households.
Do you expect republicans to tell the truth about this? A truthful statement about the economy would go something like this:
The U.S. economy is producing more wealth now than it has at any previous point in U.S. history, but the gains are not going to working and middle class Americans. The gains are all going to somebody else, and they have been for quite a long time now.
I suppose they might then ask if anyone has any questions about this incontestable fact.
@Greg: Thank you for your reference to the chart. The red line is the important line. It makes the point that the economy sucks. Is this another joking post Greg? Are you pretending you can not interpret a graph? Maybe you are demonstrating what a common core education will look like!
@Randy, #33:
Do you not understand the simple truth that the problem cannot possibly be a weak economy when the Gross Domestic Product is the highest it has ever been in the history of the United States?
If the economy is producing wealth at a record level—if this is a time of great abundance—why is real household income falling? Where do you think the benefits of record levels of production are going?
@Randy: So true, Randy. Greg doesn’t recognize that for every 114 a family was making when Obama took office they are now making 104. That doesn’t really seem to be ‘better off’. Plus the fact that there are 10 million more people ‘not working’ in the labor force compared to when he took office, plus the fact that he has added more to the deficit than all presidents total prior to him. He has increased the deficient from 4 Trillion up to 19 Trillion. He has borrowed from our future for many years. When you look up the word Catastrophe in the dictionary, it has a picture of Obama.
@Greg: I would suggest you read the notes at the bottom of your graphs, it would tell you that the Rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. Gross income for everything is included in GDP but median household shows how the ‘average’ households are actually doing. Hint: they are getting poorer.
@Greg:
Uh, maybe to the rich? Sure not to the median household.
They’re getting poorer, alright, but it sure as hell isn’t because we’re in the midst of “an economic catastrophe.”
I’m beginning to wonder if the ears of the average republican voter might be the only thing that keeps a Size S hat from falling down over his eyes.
@Greg:
Having you been pushing all day that they are in midst of an economic bonanza?