Roger L. Simon:
The Republicans are supposed to have a “War on Women” that’s about as real as the Loch Ness monster, but the Democrats are developing a war that is considerably more authentic and quite a bit more sinister — a “War on Work.” From Reuters:
Democrats sought to turn the latest controversy over Obamacare and the economy into a positive political message on Sunday by casting an expected decline in American work hours as a boon to worker freedom and family values.
In a new partisan tussle over election messaging that is likely to color this year’s congressional mid-term campaign, Democratic lawmakers said a predicted drop in work hours brought about by Obamacare would mean more family time for mothers, more study opportunities for college students and less job stress for older workers.
“The single mom, who’s raising three kids (and) has to keep a job because of healthcare, can now spend some time raising those kids. That’s a family value,” Democratic Senator Charles Schumer said on NBC’s Sunday program, “Meet the Press.”
He was responding to a fiscal report from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) on Tuesday that said President Barack Obama’s healthcare law would bring about a drop in work hours equal to the loss of 2.5 million full-time workers over the next decade.
Schumer’s blather is obviously meant to distract from the CBO’s report, rather than “respond” to it, as the Reuters loyalists would have it, but never mind. Something more disturbing, indeed quite literally depressing, is at play here. If we are moving toward a society in which people perforce work less, whether to get discount healthcare orany healthcare or some other governmentally imposed reason, we are moving toward a depressed society, a nation of the sad.
You don’t have to be a Freudian to see the truth in the father of psychoanalysis’ oft-quoted pronouncement that “love and work are the cornerstones of our humanness,” really the keys to our daily sanity. If you undermine our ability to work, to be gainfully and fully employed, you undermine our self-respect, virtually no matter what our occupation. When our ability to contribute to society and to the welfare of our families is curtailed, we become depressed, sometimes unable to function or even be creative with that vaunted free time. The vast majority of us anyway. People on the dole are almost always a depressed lot, sometimes terminally.
So something deeply cynical resides at the heart of this new “liberal” free time favor they are bestowing on the citizens of our country. Maybe it isn’t birth control pills that should be distributed gratis via Obamacare, but Oxycontin.
You gotta love this:
Let’s break it down.
No baby daddy in the picture, so she’s already a ”Julia” type.
And yet she WAS working.
OK, that’s fiction right there.
Her lower income means less for the children (or ”kids,” as Chuck calls them).
Her lower income means no payment to a day-care worker, so there’s ANOTHER job gone.
Her lower income means her healthcare is highly subsidized, so that’s less money into the private economy and more taxpayer money into ObamaCare.
Her lower income means she will also line up for many other safety net programs that used to be for people who actually needed them instead of for people who chose the lifestyle of sponger.
Her example to her ”kids,” will be one of expert sponger, not striving for independence and even wealth.
They’ll follow her example and you’ve got three more spongers down the road.
What family value is that, Chuck?
IT’S NO MORE HEALTHCARE, THEY CHANGED IT FOR
Obama kill job, obamakilljob in one word, no more obamacare,
pay the fee and join the welfare stamp and all benefits,
in marxist country
The specious arguments coming from the unhinged right just keeps getting not only more silly, but exposes them more and more as Plutocrats and Social Darwinist.
By your logic, that allowing folks to retire is “job killing” and economically detrimental and makes folks lazy and reduces their incentives to work, then the need to eliminate Social Security along with Medicare and Medicaid should be a no brainer. Once you accomplish that, it will indeed motivate many an elderly to get off their lazy asses and get back to work.
Try that one out on the campaign trail and see how folks take to it.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Alright, why bring Walt’s dog into this discussion?
You are eventually going to tell us which country is not being run by rich people,, right?
Is the word ‘retire’ officially redefined in the Zippycare law. Now, as I understand it, if you get fired because your employer doesn’t want to buy you insurance at the new higher price, it’s called ‘retirement’? Do they start paying you retirement pay? Why wasn’t this argument put out when all the bad publicity about zippycare came out? Why did it just start when Chuckie thought it up this past weekend? Besides, if all these people are old enough to suddenly retire, then they will start drawing Social Security and using Medicare.
Ain’t Zippycare great?
@Ronald J. Ward:
Your marxist drivel is beyond passe. Your glossing over the inherent unfairness and brutality of the effects of collectivism show the shallow nature of your thinking – typical of leftists.
Once a society deludes itself into the belief that there are no consequences for one’s choices, and that it is the duty of those who actually work to be bullied by the collective to give up what they produce to support the lazy and the envious, that society is doomed to die. You leftists seem to think – in spite of the evidence in every single attempt to impose the economics of Marx – that somehow humans will continue to produce things in sufficient quantity for mass consumption without acceptable compensation for the required work effort and use of resources.
The arrogance of people like you, spouting off your sanctimonious propaganda – “Social Darwinist” and “Plutocrat” – as if being rewarded for the personal sacrifice, work and effort one puts in to succeed is heinous and evidence of flawed character, while someone being a parasitic mooch demanding others pay for their food, housing, societal infrastructure, healthcare, education and whatever other whimsical “need” they demand is to be viewed as virtuous. It would be laughable if not so destructive to our society. You leftists will run out of people from whom to steal, no matter how much you try to fool yourselves.
People like you are beyond despicable with your thinly disguised envy, your blatant dishonesty, and your completely selfish desire to steal from others who have earned more than you have. It is long past time to go Galt and let the parasites begin feeding on the leftist scum who have brought this once great country to the current state of impending doom.
And your repetitive droning “Try that on the campaign trail…” indicates clearly your disdain for truth and personal integrity. Simply because the left has worked so diligently over the last 100 years to dumb down and enslave a majority of Americans does not mean that the rest of us should simply roll over and let you continue to spew your vile class warfare lies. The truth is the truth, regardless of whether or not a majority chooses to accept it.
@Pete: If my “Try that on the campaign trail…” indicates clearly my disdain for truth and personal integrity, go for it.
That’s one of my big arguments about the far right extremist today and huge problem you have of not being able to jam your legislation down the peoples throats. You can’t do it because you don’t have the seats. You can’t get the seats because you can’t sell you agenda to the electorate.
Again, if your “ACA encourages dead beats” by allowing people to retire had any rationale, that has to apply to social security and any other safety net program. You would love to end all safety net programs but you can’t because you don’t have the seats. You can’t get those seats with a campaign of taking them away.
And this is why in Nov, we saw Romney and the Ryan Budget go down in flames and why The Tea Party bit the dirt. This was also proven when the extremist shut down the government.
Insult all you like but it doesn’t change that reality.
PEOPLE LIKE RONALD J Ward are the snakes of the AMERICA READY TO KISS ASS OF DEMOCRATS,
HE COME HERE TO INSULT HE IS LESS THAN NOTHING, NOT WORTHY OF YOU AND THE SIDE HE CALL FAR RIGHT WHICH HERE ARE NOT FAR RIGHT BUT RIGHT AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHICH MANY THOUSAND OF READER FOLLOW THESE MULTIPLE CONSERVATIVES POSTS, AND SEE THE FAR LEFT IS THE POISON OF THIS COUNTRY AND TO BE VOTED OUT, SO TO FREE THE PEOPLE FROM THE CLAW OF EVIL LEADERS WHO NOW ARE SO DESPERATE TO WIN, THEY ASK THE PEOPLE TO LEAVE THEIR JOBS AND PROMISS THEM TO PAY THEM INSTEAD, AND NO ONE TRUST THEIR WORD,THE ARE LIARS,
RONALD STICK IT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT WITH YOUR FAVORITE WEED,
your head hve been messed up, you do not make any sense, go find your head it’t in the dirt,
@ilovebeeswarzone: Bees, how can you obtain your political agendas (ending ACA, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, etc, etc, etc, Labor Unions, banking predatory laws, those pesky government regulation agencies like OSHA, EPA, ect, etc, etc, when you don’t have the seats to do it and when you can’t get those seats campaigning on that agenda?
Again, belittle me all you like but it doesn’t change reality.
Ronald J. Ward
what will you say when the next government is elect ,
by the people for the people to serve the people,
@ilovebeeswarzone: I don’t now what to say when I can’t make out what you’re trying to say.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Your comprehension skills have been tainted by your leftist ideology. Again, truth is truth, regardless of whether or not it has majority support. What you leftists have done with the wickedly successful Gramscian strategy is dumb down education and the cultural zeitgeist while building one destructive government welfare dependency program after another – getting larger and larger numbers of the less industrious and less educated people within our nation addicted to the “free” handout from the leftist governmemt hack for the sole purpose of convincing a majority of these people to vote for even more largesse from the public trough without said voter having to do anything to actually earn it. The repeated economic lies from despicable leftists, that the government can spend over a trillion dollars more than federal annual income for at least 5 years and somehow the economy will improve; the lie that adding layers and layers of socialist bureaucracy to the medical system would decrease the deficit and decrease the average family’s health care expenses by an average of $2500/year AND let you keep your plan and doctor; that obamacare would not increase taxes on anyone making less than $250 thousand per year, then fighting in court for the constitutionality of obamacare as a TAX. Now the spin for the horrible economic impact of obamacare is to talk about people being “liberated from work” without the acknowledgment that SOMEBODY was still going to have to work to pay for the newly liberated person to eat, have utilities, have shelter…and to subsidize the “free” health insurance.
Your dishonesty is obvious from your answer. You don’t really care about the ethicality, feasability acttual outcomes of your class warfare based scams. You don’t care if these socialist programs are actually good for anyone, nor if these boondoggles will function at all, nor how much money will be flushed down the toilet by your socialist leaders chasing these false utopias. If you did, you would acknowledge the obvious harm that has been caused and work to end these useless programs and support policies and ideas that work, that allow people a dignified way to improve their lives without stealing from other people.
Leftism is horrendously corrupt, and as pathetic as an old, balding fat man running around in a speedo chasing after women young enough to be his grandaughter, convinced that he is God’s gift for them.
Well, no, that’s just not true. I do care if the programs are good or that they function and are feasible and such.
I just don’t agree with your sky falling rhetoric.
It would be interesting to hear your take (and I know you won’t give it) on what to do with Medicare, Madicade, Social Security, Snap, minimum wage, the NLRB, OSHA, EPA, health care, etc.
You see, the push coming from the extreme is to end most all of those with no meaningful replacement. And there’s a balance there that the Tea Party and such refuse to accept. Should some of those programs be tweaked, more efficient, or function better? Sure. But your objective is not to work with Dem or their programs at all but rather to destroy them, which I think would be economically destructive.
Now, you and those you kowtow to will not admit your intent to just eliminate those programs but you fail to come up with a doable plan or alternative, or the repercussions of such drastic moves.
So while you hate these programs, you cannot get rid of them unless you can win enough elections. You cannot win those elections by promising to end them.
That’s just a fact and our ideological differences are asides.
YOU RONALD PREFER TO WAIT TILL THE SKY FALL ON YOUR HEAD,
YOU’RE THE TYPE OF EVERYTHING IS OKAY BANG THE SKY IS ON YOUR EMPTY HEAD,
Ronald J. Ward
OF COURSE YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND,
your head has been empty by the DEMOCRATS INDOCTRINATION,
you have to be debrief by a psychiatrist
@Ronald J. Ward:
I readily admit that I want to end all forms of government handouts. I am well aware that because far to many people have become addicted to the crack of “free” money taken from others that such a drastic change in policy would have to be implemented over a period of time in some sort of weaning or tapering schedule. Furthermore, I also realize the virtual impossibility in our current environment of such a difficult economic belt tightening because addicts do not easily nor usually willingly embark on such painful actions.
But the economic reality can only be postponed for so long. The reality is that the unconscionable borrowing and debt to pay for these bread and circus political handouts that politicians of both parties – though more egregiously propounded by the left – keep adding are bringing us to a point where there will not be enough to meet national financial obligations. The red herring propaganda from dems that “conservatives will not work to fix the problems” belies the dem insistence that the only acceptable solution is to raise taxes even more and to increase federal spending on such disastrous handouts. What government program has ever come in at, under, or even close to cost projections made by proponents when said programs were being pushed onto the shoulders of Americans? The brutal truth is that social security barely provides a 1% return on the money “invested” via taxation, while the average 401k generally returns a minimum 6% on investments. Social security is going bankrupt, with projections of insolvency hitting as early as 2024. What is going to happen to people dependent on such funds when SS finally cannot pay anymore? Simply increasing taxes may postpone the painful results cor a few.more years, but what happens when the shortsighted leftist economic policies result in insufficient numbers of people willing to work for decreasing financial rewards, and the federal leviathan can no longer pay the increased costs? The national credit rating has already been downgraded once, and subsequent downgrades have been threatened. This results in higher interest rates, which means even less money to pay for handouts. Increased tax rates means shrinking economic performance, greater unemployment and greater numbers of people wanting handouts. The vicious cycle will continue until the system collapses under the weight of insurmountable debt. Our nation is driving a clown car (green, no doubt) at maximum speed towards a very real financial cliff. No amount of burying the collective head in the sand will make this grim fiscal reality go away. How does kicking the can down the road help people living dependant upon government handouts? Our nation’s politicians have spent us to the brink buying the votes of the uninformed, and the wrath of the mob will not be easily nor quickly placated when there are no more targets to plunder to feed it.
@Pete: RJW is really more concerned about Walt’s Dog Pluto.
YOU HAVE ALL IT TAKE TO RUN FOR OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT,
WHY DON’T YOU GET IN LINE, YOU HAVE IT OR YOU DON’T AND YOU HAVE IT PLENTY,
For example, Social Security. This is not a handout in most cases. I paid into it for 46 years and the benefits I am getting are good, but not as good as they would have been had the government invested my money in something yielding, say 5%, for those 46 years and it would not have cost the government anything. So that system just has to be changed so that the money is going into an investment, instead of the general fund. Only persons that are actually disabled could get welfare without working. There should be charity as needed if people are genuinely needy, but not free. There should be no money handed out for unwed mothers for their children, they should be provided shelter and food and medical care as needed, but not in the form of money.
There should be no limits on what charities can do for people.
@Pete: The really sad part is that it can be fixed easily, but everyone is afraid to do what anyone else recommends because they don’t want someone else to get the credit. The solutions to health care are simple, it’s just that the Dims want the government to have control of health care and want everything socialized. That can never be successful. Capitalism is the only answer.
YES THEY DON’T KNOW HOW COME THEY DONT’
THIS AMERICA BEGAN TO BE SOME CENTURY AGO,
and the poor where taken care of and CHRISTIANS WHERE DOING A GOOD EFFORT,
IN TAKING CARE of those unable to do it, WHAT WE CALL CHARITY WAS A NATURAL THING TO DO ,
NOT DICTATED BY GOVERNMENT WANTING TO MAKE A BUCK OVER IT,
THE POOR SURVIVE AND WHERE WELL SERVE, THE BLACKS BOUGHT FROM ARABS DEALER TAKING THEM BY FORCE OUT OF AFRICAN COUNTRIES, THEY WHERE WELL FED AND HAD TO WORK TO HELP THE BIG RANCHERS NEEDING THE WORKER, THEY HAD THE BRANDED NAME OF SLAVES,
BUT ONCE THEY GOT IN AMERICA IT WAS ONLY A NAME NOT A SLAVERY, AND THEY SURVIVED,
ALL THE POORS SURVIVED BETTER, BECAUSE THEY WHERE DOING JOBS THAT MADE THEM PROUD,
IT’S NOT OBAMA WHO DISCOVER HOW TO TREAT THE POORS, LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON TODAY
WITH THE POORS, THEY RAISE THEIR YOUNG TO HATE THE PREVIOUS DONORS BECAUSE ONE MAD HUMAN TOLD THEM BAD THINGS AND INCITED THEM TO HATE THE WHITES, IT STAYED WITH MANY POORS AND THEY START TO THINK THE OTHER OWE THEM,
TODAY THE MANY POORS SHOULD REALIZE THAT IT’S NOT OBAMA WHO GIVE THEM,
NO , HE NEVER GAVE THEM ANYTHING FROM HIS POCKET, HE TOOK THE MONEY FROM THE PEOPLE,
AND NOW IT BEGIN TO BE LESS IN THE PEOPLE’S POCKETS, LESS AND LESS, SO THE POORS SHOULD
NOW SAY THANK’S PEOPLE FOR YOUR GREAT HELP, TIME HAS COME TO MAKE THINGS STRAIGHT,
BECAUSE the young are kiking the citizens in the bus on the street in the theft they do in houses and no one say a dam thing to take the side of the citizens, THIS WAS NOT FIX THE SAME WAY IN OLDER TIMES,
IF THEY WOULD HAVE HURT A CITIZEN THEY WOULD HAVE PAID THE PRICE, THE PEOPLE KNEW THEIR SHERIF WAS PROTECTING THEM, AND THERE TO PUNISH SMALL CRIMES, WHICH NOW HAS BECOME BIG EVIL CRIMES BECAUSE NOT TAKEN ATTENTION AS THE YOUNG GREW UP,
HE GOT AWAY WITH LITTLE CRIMES, WHICH HURT THE ONE WHO IS ON THE OTHER END,
SO INSTEAD OF MARCHING ON THE ROAD DEMANDING RIGHTS, THEY SHOULD FIX THEIR OWN RIGHTS AND STOP TRIPPING THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET AS A SPORT FOR YOUNG BLACK AGAINST THE WHITES WHO NEVER DID ANY WRONG TO THEM, IT’S TIME THEY GET THE MESSAGE
AND LEARN THE 10 COMMANDS OF GOD,
Liberals are beyond belief…they got nothing… all are a bunch of empty suits…just like their ‘king’ …if this is what they got…. they got nothing at all but pure unadulterated b/s. In fact they are all a bunch of b/s…I can’t take much more of their stupid nonsensical “spin” on just about everything…
…their ‘spin’ is just ‘code’ for total screw up…like everything they ‘try’ they totally screw (it) up…their ‘grand’ social engineering ‘experiment’ has gone so far off a cliff they now have to “spin” it…into yet another web of Lies…. just to cover up their stupidity….
RJW If the right is so ‘unhinged’ as you say…tell us oh, enlightened one…
….tell us RJW – exactly what do you see as the grand democrat (aka liberal progressive) platform for the years 2014-2015 – 2016 and beyond… tell us what our future holds, and what we can look forward to from your liberal point of view..
..exactly where are we headed ….please do… alleviate our anxiety…
I have mentioned a method to finally answer the question once and for all as to the better economic policy for a nation. Hold a vote in each state to join either a red or a blue nation. Every state that votes to follow socialist economic policy joins the Socialist States of America. States that vote red join the Conservative Republic of America. People who do not like the results of the vote in their state would be free for a reasonable period of time say no more than 6 months to move to the nation they prefer. Split up military equipment based on the percentage of states that choose whichever side, and allow troops to choose which nation they prefer. Split up the federal debt based on a per capita basis. Then see over time which economic policy, and which political policy functions most efficiently. The left should be pleased to be free from what they consider to be conservative obstructionism that the left believes is preve ting the dawn of their marxist utopia, while those of us with conservative philosophies would be unburdened of what we believe to be unfeasible, unaffordable and inhumane governmental policy shackles. The left is constantly bleating that blue states are supporting red states anyway, so they should jump at the chance to rid themselves of all us knuckledragging rubes, right?
Bee, though I appreciate your sentiments, I am realistic enough to know that running for office on the principles I express here would not likely result in success. There are already roughly 50 million food stamp recipients who would vote against anyone campaigning on a platform of ending welfare. The economic facts of our dire national financial straits do not matter to people who have been led to believe that those who work for a living are duty bound to pay for their healthcare, food, housing and obama phones. Frankly, I knew the writing was on the wall when I saw the video of that woman shedding tears of ignorant joy, proclaiming that the newly elected Obama was going to pay her mortgage.
With that level of economic ignorance so prevalent in our society, our nation is doomed. Any household run based on majority rule by its economic children would have candy and toys for a brief period of time, then fall apart once the family could no longer pay the necessary living expenses. That is the allegory our nation currently faces, and no amount of truth telling by the parents can overcome the childish desire for instant gratification. In that respect, regarding RJW’s comments about winning elections, he is right.
YOU WOULD BE SURPRISE how many would join, if you promiss a job as oppose to a stamp,
a full time job, because the business who did it themselves would come back if they recognize AMERICA
THEY KNOW, you would be surprise to see people come to you and say THANK GOD, WE ARE WITH YOU,
then you might say to the people,, its okay we will stick together as a NATION WHO WILL HEAL THE WOMB
AND NEVER AGAIN WE WILL TEMPT THE DEVIL AND ASK HIM TO COME IN OUR LAND, IN A CABALE of lies and deceit,
you would be surprise to see A UNITED STATE RESURGING FROM THE DEBT TO GLORIFY JESUS,
FOR HIS HELP AND FORGIVNESS, YES YOU WOULD BE SURPRISE TO SEE THOSE WHO ARE INDOCTRINATED SNAP OUT AND BEG THE PEOPLE TO FORGIVE THEM,
you would be surprise to see the MILITARY stand with you as you tell them to come back at once your first order as COMMANDER IN CHIEF, and leave no poppy land alive,
you would have your first big spending on the party of AMERICA, NEVER MATCH BEFORE AND ,
LASTING FOR WEEKS, TO CELEBRATE FREEDOM BACK TO THE PEOPLE of AMERICA,
YOU WOULD BE SURPRISE TO GET THE BILL OF THE PARTY AT THE END,
Pete, thanks for your honest response and an admission that we simply can’t pull the rug out in one forceful swoop. Also as you say, our debt and problems didn’t come over night so it stands to reason they can’t be fixed over night. And I think we both agree that the electorate would never go for it.
And I’ll agree that the present economic situation, particularly with high unemployment and underemployment, isn’t sustainable.
Now I’m going to try to keep this friendly, or at least respectful as I understand our ideologies are miles apart, there are issues in part or whole that we’d never see eye to eye on, that our opinions on who’s to blame differs, and that there’s overwhelming animosities toward Obama and Democrats.
With that said, I’ll start out with something that while I’m sure will raise your hackles, it’s simply something I truly believe. I lay considerable blame on today’s problems on a very corporate friendly SCOTUS and particularly Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the Bush tax cuts at a time of starting 2 wars, and the 2010 electoral wave of the Tea Party.
As I’ve argued, the TP is a movement corporately funded by billionaires, orchestrated by right wing extremists, and highly promoted with free and positive air time from Fox News. That falls more into being factual rather than opinion. My opinion is their objective was to promote their Plutocratic and Social Darwinism agenda at an opportune time of exploiting the hatred of a newly elected black president. To clarify that and to avoid your heckling troll (yes that’s insulting but it’s obvious his objective is only to harass and distract while adding nothing of substance to the argument) I’m meaning that a few of the richest and most powerful want a government ran by the most wealthy and a “survival of the fittest” mentality. I’ve argued here that a GOP super majority would likely seat Charles Koch as as Supreme Court Justice. You can’t expect justice when you’re that imbalanced.
Your tone, like many of today’s conservative arguments, seem to want to point at the unemployed, underemployed, disabled, elderly, etc as those “addicted to the crack of “free” money taken from others” when in reality, partial blame moves on up the latter. Your local small town pharmacy has become “addicted” to those customers on the government dole. Your local grocery store is dependent on SNAP recipients. Your local trade school relies on Pell grants. There’s an argument that not restoring unemployment benefits to those 1.3 million will around be 240,000 jobs. And then of course, those job losses snowball to more losses. I might also add that today’s employees are more productive than ever in history.
So, am I advocating to just keep handing out cash? No. But the arguments coming from the right that these folks are dead beats AND that taking them off the dole is somehow economically advantageous doesn’t hold water. The arguments from the Tea Party to cut government jobs doesn’t make sense. Pulling government money from infrastructure doesn’t make sense. Austerity at a time of economic hard times is a proven recipe for failure. There have been numerous admissions from right wing leaders of implementing such polices in to insure Obama’s failure. Yet for whatever reasons, there seems to be support from the right on those objectives.
Today’s push from some conservatives to eliminate the minimum wage isn’t realistic particularly at a time when these employers are making record profits and their low wage full time workers are depending on government funds is asinine. The concept that ending all collective bargaining will increase wages simply fails reality. And after well over a decade, it’s obvious that the Bush tax cuts failed.
If you want to end social programs without destroying the economy or having mass tent cities under bridges, you have to have stronger working class. This requires government investments in education, infrastructure, and reining in on corporate predatory abuses and accountability.
Arguable? Sure. But we need a government willing to work for the common good rather than what we have. With the Bush tax cuts in place, the flood gates for big corporate campaign money open, and the kowtowing to the feared corporately funded Tea Party, that isn’t likely to happen.
Ronald J. Ward
YOU ARE SO WRONG,
THE TEA-PARTY ARE THE PEOPLE RICH OR POOR, THOSE ARE THE GUARDIANS OF THE LAWS OF THE LAND
THEY ARE IN YOUR FACE, GOOD IT’S BECAUSE YOUR SIDE IS OVER STEPPING THEIR AUTHORITY WHICH
IS TO BULLY THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE ENOUGH OF IT,
THE TOLERANCE OF THE PEOPLE HAS BEEN PUSH TO LIMIT OF WHAT BULLYING AND LACK OF RESPECT BY IMPOSING THEIR FAIL AGENDA,
AND COME THE TEA-PARTY TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE AND TELL THE BULLY , NO YOU GO TO YOUR ROOM AND FACE THE CORNER ON YOUR KNEES, YOU ARE A SMALL MINION NOW FOR ABUSING OUR CITIZENS WITH YOU BOOK OF PASS TWO THOUSANDS PAGES OF RULES YOU PRETEND TO CLAIM
WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE BROKEN , AND IT WILL COST THEM AN ARM AS PUNISHMENT TO PAY NOW,
THE SMALL EARNERS AND THE SMALL BUSINESS AND THE FAMILIES AND THE WORKER AND THE RICH YES WE LIKE THE RICH, LET THEM BE WEALTHY FOREVER,
YOU SAY BILLIONAIRE AS IF IT WAS A DIRTY WORD, LIKE A DEMOCRAT PARTY WHO WANT ALL THE RICH TO PAY THEM WHO ARE NOTHING NOBODY WORTHY OF SPENDING ON, BECAUSE THEY ARE SO GREEDY THAT THEY ARE SHOWING THEIR INNERSELF, AND THE TEA-PARTY SEE IT VERY CLEAR,
AND EXPOSE THEM AND WHAT THEY DO TO THE PEOPLE,THAT IS CRIMINAL SAY IT AS IT IS,
ROBBING THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD ENOUGH AND WHO NEED THEIR EARNING ,
BUT THEY HAVE TO SHARE WITH A MULTITUDE OF LAZY GOVERNMENT PUBLIC EMPLOYEES HIRED BECAUSE THEY GAVE THEIR OATH NOT TO AMERICA BUT TO A SINGLE PERSON ENVIOUS GREEDY AND MAD AS HELL FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO LEAD,WHO WANT TO MAKE THEM PAY WITH PENALTY,
SO TO CARRY HIS REVENGE,
NEVER SEEN IN AMERICA, SOME PRESIDENT WHERE IMPEACH FOR A LOT LESS,ALOT LESS INDEED,
SO DON’T YOU DARE DEMONIZE A TEA-PARTY WHO HAVE BEEN DEMONIZE BY THE IRS SINCE 2010,
THE IRS ARE NOT WORKING FOR ONE PARTY AND THEY DID, THEY MUST BE GONE AND REPLACE,
IF YOU CANNOT FIND THOSE WHO DID THE BITCHING TO CONSERVATIVES WHO ALSO PAY THEIR TAX AND TO THE MAX, THEN FIRED THEM EMPLOYEES ALL UNTIL THEY NAME THE CRIMINALS,
the people can survive without the IRS, UNTIL A NEW DECENT GROUP IS HIRE TO SERVE ALL THE AMERICANS WHOEVER AND WHAT EVER THEY ARE, THE IRS ARE NOT HIRE TO BULLY OR INSULT OR ASK QUESTIONS NOT IN THEIR BOOK, THEY ARE TO SERVE RESPECTFULLY THE PEOPLE WHO PAY FOR THEM,
@ilovebeeswarzone: While I understand your alegence to the Tea Party, the fact that they’re corporately funded is indeed true. It isn’t even arguable. This has been proven over and over and over.
Ronald J. Ward
SO WHAT IF THEY HAVE HELP FROM A BILLIONAIRE,
WHAT IS IT TO YOU,
DO YOU TALK ABOUT OBAMA BEING HELP BY MULTI RICH ARABS ON HIS ELECTION,
OR BUFFET FREE TICKET TO THE WHITE HOUSE, OR OBAMA TAKING CONTRIBUTION
FROM THE UNION BOSS, THE MAFIA SUPER RICH ALSO,
AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO QUESTION THE BILLIONAIRE HELPING THE TEA-PARTY, if it’s true,
WHICH I HAVE TAKEN TO MYSELF TO PROTECT AGAINS DIRT SLINGNING PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND DEMOCRAT , NOT BY ALLEGIANCE TO THEM , THEY DON’T NEED MY ALLEGIANCE,
allegiance is only to AMERICA AND HER LAWS OF THE LAND,
IT’S OBVIOUS YOU AND YOUR SAME BULLY WANT TO DEMONIZE THEM AND PUBLICLY PAINT THEM AS BAD EVEN TERRORIST FROM ONE OF THE DEMOCRAT FROM NEVADA, AND MANY MORE ADJECTIVES THAT WOULD FIT THEMSELVES, LIKE A GLOVE,
HOW DARE YOU COME HERE TO ATTACK THEM, BECAUSE YOU WHERE TOLD TO AND BELIEVED IT,like a servant of the democrat party,
AND TRY TO SELL IT TO PEOPLE,
YOU DO NOT STAND A CHANCE, BECAUSE THE IRS HAS DEMONIZE THE TEA-PARTY AND NOW IRS ARE BEING
CHECKED FOR THE CRIME THEY DID, to attack those good people guardian of the laws of the land being stepped on
by the GOVERNMENT WHO HATE AMERICA, IT SHOW BECAUSE THEY DISOBEY THE LAWS OF THE LAND WHICH WORK FOR AMERICA FOR CENTURY ON,
@ilovebeeswarzone: I’m not demonizing billionaires for funding the Tea Party. I’m simply saying they did so, which from your very own admission (“SO WHAT IF THEY HAVE HELP FROM A BILLIONAIRE, WHAT IS IT TO YOU”) is true.
Ronald J. Ward
i hope you are right, they need some help to pay LAWYER for that IRS ATTACK,
I DID NOT ADMIT BECAUSE I DIDN’T KNOW,
WHERE DID YOU FIND THAT? do you have a credible link?
@Ronald J. Ward: 25 you wrote
That could just as easily have been written: As I’ve argued, the Dimocrat Pary is a movement corporately funded by billionaires, orchestrated by left wing extremists, and highly promoted with free and positive air time from PBS,NBC,CBS,ABC,MSNBC,CNBC News. ” That falls more into being factual rather than opinion. ”
Then you mentioned Walt’s Dog again, and then all the Marxist/AFO talking points which are required for your daily paycheck,
One thing you didn’t mention is ‘which country in the world is not run by the rich?’. That’s been asked several times and apparently the answer would be embarrassing to you.
So you’ve now fulfilled your daily requirements for a payday.
Then you said:
but I think what you meant was: I’ve argued here that a Dimocrat super majority would likely seat George Soros as as Supreme Court Justice. You can’t expect justice when you’re that imbalanced.” Correct?
@ilovebeeswarzone: How many more links do you need?
Ronald J. Ward
NO THANK YOU, to be sure I can ask the TEA-PARTY
I know they wouldn,t lie, AND WE CAN TRUST THEIR WORDS,