Great thread:
1) Folks, this China Virus may be the opportunity patriots and Americans need to finally dismantle so-called "Higher Ed."
“Just trying to keep the lights on,” said one ACC athletic director.
— Larry Schweikart (@LarrySchweikart) July 10, 2020
Tho many people thought their worthless degrees were worth $50,000 per year when they got to live near campus and party constantly, there is a whole lot of squawking as places like MIT and Harvard want to collect $50,000 for online classes!
So, yeah, this chinavirus might just have a very pleasant unintended consequence.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/students-should-consider-suing-harvard-mit-for-charging-full-tuition-for-online-classes-mcenany_3418072.html
Electrician. Wind Turbine Technician. Structural Iron and Steelworker. Plumber. Hearing Aid Specialist. none need a degree but pay is real good.
If you want an ignorant, easily-manipulated voter base consisting largely of people who are incapable of independent thought and devoid of any cultural values that go deeper than those they pick up from the fantasy worlds of political propaganda and reality television, the elimination of “higher education” is certainly one way to get there.
Trump loves his low-education voters. According to his sister, he paid a smarter friend to take his S.A.T. test for him. His apparent ignorance of many things that most liberal arts graduates of his generation will know as a matter of course certainly lends credibility to the claim.
@kitt:
Most of your skilled or craft trades require an associates degree at a minimum along with an approximate 5 year apprenticeship. So after 2 yrs of school at about $30K, you can go to work at around 60% of journeyman pay while battling school loans. This doesn’t seem to be an attractive package for many.It doesn’t help when Republicans seem to hate Pell Grants, love high interest school loan rates for their banking donors, and love gutting prevailing wages (thus driving wages down).
Another option for many for years has been Union trade apprenticeships where the union, employer, and state and fed pays to school the apprentice while getting on the job training (still at around 60% scale but can start right away rather than sit unpaid for 2 yrs in a classroom and racking up debt). It’s been pretty much a win/win because the employer’s pay to the apprentice is partially paid by the union and gov and the apprentice learns a lifelong skill.
Thing is, republicans hate unions, hate union wages, love high interest rates on American workers, and prefer the wages stay in the employer’s pocket rather than theirs.
If manufacturing ever does boom again, there will be a significant shortage of skilled tradesmen. There already is.
@Greg:
That’s what colleges are turning out right now. Whiny, ignorant, fragile, entitled dumbasses.
@kitt: My daughter and son-in-law are selling a house. Had to call a plumber for a gas leak. $168 an hour. Of course, it does involve WORK.
@Ronald J. Ward:
You are a fucking idiot.
@Ronald J. Ward: While the federal government remains the largest source of student loans in the U.S., working with a private lender can be a smart decision. And Sallie Mae Bank, a publicly traded company, is reportedly the biggest in the business.
The average trade school degree costs $33,000, which, compared to a $127,000 bachelor’s degree, means a savings of $94,000 or a starter home.
Machinist and HVAC techs also can make some decent wages.
Most companies pay for the education expenses.
@Greg:
So, just so you understand…
100% of non-Leftists think that Leftists are “… ignorant, easily-manipulated voter base consisting largely of people who are incapable of independent thought and devoid of any cultural values that go deeper than those they pick up from the fantasy worlds of political propaganda and reality television”
Time for you to examine your stale political views, or admit you are accusing the Right of doing what the Left is doing.
@Greg: Actually, I’d just prefer you admit you are a Russian or Chinese troll bent on ceding division in the US for the purpose of weakening it.
You clearly are. Your words and pathology are so, so apparent….
I guess science and actual thought are beyond the reach of you Communist monkeys.
Was your grandmother a Serf?
You all sound oddly alike when you become angry.
@Greg: Puff yourself up with liberal insanity, you cant make us angry little man.
@Nathan Blue:
Nice researched, detailed, and informative rebuttal.
Perhaps there are other options for people to acquire those secrets of the trade?
I hear Trump University has closed.
@Ronald J. Ward: #4
Heh-heh. My grand nephew never even graduated from his trade school. About three months before the official graduation, his instructor told him that the sponsoring company needed pipe welders right-effing-now, and if he wanted to take and pass the welding test, he would be working the next day. He wanted, did, and started working.
In his first twelve months, with overtime, he made over $60,000.
There is a big demand for people who can repair and build things.
Four years after graduating from high school, he had a wife, a son, a new pickup, his own (and the bank’s) home, money in the bank, and had earned almost $300,000 in total.
Four years after high school, the average college student is $30,000 in debt, has no assets and will earn less than my grand nephew will pay in taxes.
There is no demand for people who can destroy things. Former military demolitions experts have a lock on those jobs.