A Project Veritas video published Tuesday purportedly shows a Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) campaign staffer musing about a ban on private property ownership in the United States as an alternative to mass killings.
A man identified as Mason Baird, a Sanders field organizer in South Carolina, is seen telling a Project Veritas journalist that he believes a “militant labor movement,” working in tandem with a Sanders administration, should “strip power” away from capitalists.
“We would need a federal government and labor union movement that is working together to strip power away from capitalists and preferably directing violence toward property,” the man says. “At the end of the day, this kind of stuff will come out through practice, through the work and it’s hard for me to talk about it in the moment we live in, ’cause I think China today is not what Mao envisioned, right — it was through the practice of Chinese people doing the work to create the China today.
“So, it never – we’re never going – I think a lot of the stuff – a lot of these answers are going to come through practice – we’re going to try things – things aren’t going to work – we’re going to move on to the next thing,” he continues. “And we’re going to try to be as conscious and intentional about those things, but when you get into a certain level of detail, and depth, it’s like, that’s kind of my ‘cop-out’, it comes through the work, you know. The answers come through the work.”
“It would, it’s gonna take, you know, it’s gonna take militancy, like a militant labor movement that’s willing to strike, and if necessary, you know, just destroy property and things like that,” he adds.
The man then turns his attention to landlords, arguing in favor of sparing their lives after they are eradicated from the system.
“After we abolish landlords, we don’t have to kill them, that’s my feeling. I think it’s damaging to the soul, but there were plenty of excesses in 1917 I would hope to avoid,” Baird says, referencing the Russian Revolution.
The Sanders staffer adds: “Labor, I think that’s a big source of power for us, and just try to gain as much leverage and power in the short time that we have. You know, Lenin didn’t have the Internet, they were a peasant society, and, I mean, it was like, so, you know, I would hope that, like, that we would – we’d have – we’d be doing a bunch of prep work before the capitalists got hip to what we were doing, I guess. I’m not excited about the prospect of armed struggle.”
In another part of the Project Veritas video, another purported Sanders staffer says he believes “plans for extreme action” must be made — even if his candidate becomes president.
I sure wish they would do something about this maniac before someone gets killed
This is not “democratic socialism” or even socialism. This is communism; the government owning private property. The concept of simply firing landlords as an option to killing them is chilling.
But not a word from Bernie in denunciation… or the DNC. This tells you they accept communism and violence (the two are interrelated) as a means of governance.
If the DNC is looking for a means to kick Bernie out of the race, here it is. He hasn’t fired any of these people and it is impossible to think these are an isolated sect. Bernie is endorsing violence… MURDER even. Of course, he never denounced the violence in his name against Trump rallies in 2016, but let’s pretend that never happened. AND he’s not even a Democrat. If the DNC wanted an excuse to shun Bernie and his communists… here ya go.
IF the DNC wanted an excuse.
The deceptively named Project Veritas is the right-wing propaganda mill founded by James O’Keefe.
Virtually every “project” it has cranked out has been proved to be intentionally deceptive, often in court.
@Greg:
So the Right is using the Left’s long-standing practices. Go figure.
And catching someone on tape to use as a political move…(see Mitt Romney 47% comments, and many others)?
So what? Works for you party, so it works for everyone one.
Equality is a bitch, little greggie.
And what Left-wing propaganda mill do you work for? Why won’t you tell us? No one listens to you anyway, you know?
@Greg: Yeah? Name one. Provide some proof that what is exposed by the videos is somehow false. You’ve been challenged on this before and you have never been able to do it. Do you think we simply forget?
@Nathan Blue, #4:
Any of the far-right’s standard rebuttals can generally be found somewhere on a list of logical fallacies. You just resorted to the tu quoque, or “appeal to hypocrisy” fallacy, which is one of the right’s great favorites.
I attended an Episcopalian high school. As with Catholic schools, Episcopalian schools teach their students the rules of logic. Two things are necessary to come to correct conclusions: an understanding of the fundamental rules of logic; and reliable, verifiable facts.
The matter of reliable facts is why inveterate liars are a serious problem whenever they become part of any question of importance. If they are widely believed in spite of their constant lying, they can make it impossible to reach correct conclusions and be the cause of errors in judgement that lead to seriously negative consequences.
Inveterate liars almost always have to fall back on logical fallacies to maintain their credibility.
15 Logical Fallacies You Should Know Before Getting Into a Debate
@Deplorable Me, #5:
Name one that isn’t.
@Greg: That was the answer I expected. I hope none of your past teachers see how you’ve failed logic and conclusions.
Given my age, most if not all of my former teachers are now safely in their graves, but I don’t believe they would be overly disappointed. Another thing they taught was that learning shouldn’t stop when you leave the classroom.
This is what Joe McCarthy warned us about these evil commies Sanders should leave America and never return him and his staffers need to leave now
@Greg:
so greggy, why haven’t you joined your fellow teachers?? such an illiterate communist.
@MOS# 8541: Gregs tactics are old ones cant attack the message attack the messenger. None of the undercover tapes have ever been proven by court of law elsewhere to be deceptively edited. Greg still gas his nose out of joint for the murder factory tapes.
He chose Episcopalian, I think is a fib, for their views on abortion but he isnt as strict with his personal views.
@Greg: If you’d told them you believed Hillary destroyed 33,000 emails the moment they were subpoenaed by the State Department simply because they were about weddings, funerals and yoga or Schiff’s rendition of the published transcript of Trump’s Ukraine call, they’d have flunked you. And rightly so.
@MOS# 8541:
Are you retire05’s sock puppet, or vice versa?
@Greg:
Shorter Greg : I got nothin’.
@Greg:
Really? What are you, sixteen? Glad you googled “logical fallacies” before posting more nonsense.
You obviously don’t understand tu quoque, in the least.
But to educate, here’s your go-to fallacy:
And you misused, and misunderstand, tu quoque. I think you read over that too fast as you conjured your Episcopal School fiction story..
The Dems routinely try cover up crime “X” by accusing Trump/Repubs of crime “X”…usually only when the Repubs start to investigate the Dems perpetration of crime “X”.
Not a logical fallacy, but a sneaky Dem move. To distract from Trump’s investigation of corruption…we accuse him of corruption. That’s not tu quoque.
You should have googled rules for radicals, since this includes you and your party’s primary tactic:
“13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
That’s the move with Trump.
But you’re butthurt because the Conservatives have employed number 4:
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
And the best comeback you have is to butcher tu quoque…
Pathetic.
@Nathan Blue, #16:
The first two sentences in Post #4 are instantly recognizable examples of that category of fallacious argument.
Non-cult members are confronted with bullshit arguments around here so frequently these days that it might be helpful to point out specifically what category of bullshit a particular item falls into. You never know, somebody might suddenly snap the hell out of it.
@Greg: We have ceased hoping you will snap out of it a very long time ago. It may be the cause of your elitist childhood being sent to private school so you wouldnt come in contact with the commoners. Not seeing or feeling the effects that bad government policies have on the little people.
@Greg: T
No they’re not. Go back to school.
Everything you post here is propaganda and logically fallacious. Don’t you dare try to analyze the words of other posters.
I’m also thinking that your name and email are used by multiple people.
Regardless, propagandists like you represent the issue that the U.S. is fighting against.
I’m not sure how old you are, but it’s teenagers and college students that seek to parse words and use the categories of logical fallacies as a kind of fascist defense against actually making their own case.
You’ve never come out to tell us what principles and values you actually support. You only serve as a mouthpiece for what is already being written by the media.
That’s the very definition of a cult, so I’d back off the idea of accusing those who disagree with you has been part of some groupthink… Since you exemplify groupthink to the extreme.
I wonder if that Episcopalian School of yours is still open. You apparently need a few more lessons, junior.
@Nathan Blue:
This is easy for them. Their media outlets will not cover the actual crime but will cover the accusation of the opposition. Their viewers are too ignorant to understand the difference and, if they accidently hear some factual coverage of the Democrats actually committing the crime, will just assume they mis-heard the report and it is Republicans that are guilty. The stupidity has been cultivated and built up for years.
@Greg: Tell us, Greg, who promotes the bullshit arguments and will not address how Schiff can pronounce he has actual, factual evidence proving Trump colluded with Russians that vanished when the Mueller report was released or does not object to his blatant LYING during a House hearing in his rendition of Trump’s phone call? Or, how about actually believing Hillary destroyed 33,000 emails the instant they were subpoenaed (remember how much you respect subpoenas?) because they were about yoga?
@Deplorable Me: Sound’s like some Dem senators are not going to support more witnesses, and actually vote for dismissal.
As they should.
@Nathan Blue, #19:
A Trump supporter denying a simple, obvious fact is nothing new. You are to be commended. Only seven words, and you’ve also managed to roll in an ad hominim.
@Nathan Blue: They are trying desperately to keep from having fact witnesses that have not been Democrat-vetted testify. Democrats have worked hard to keep anything but THEIR narrative out of the hearings. If there had been any equity in the House proceedings we probably wouldn’t be going through this garbage right now.
@Greg: If only you were as educated as you purport.
Seems you dodged the point as usual, all while using an ad hominim attack in accusing me of ad hominim.
Oh, how intelligence and application of logic seems to elude you.
Who do you work for?
All of the witnesses having direct, first-hand knowledge of the Ukraine scheme that Trump ordered to defy House subpoenas are republicans, not democrats.
@Greg: All of those involved in Ukrainian money laundering and stealing aid are Democrats. All those guilty of the CRIMES are Democrats.
While Bernie has support of labor union LEADERS, he is not well supported by workers in general.
These leaders expect to be among those the commies have traditionally paid highly because they keep the proles in line.
Even Bernie, himself, once called real workers SLAVES.
“Basically, today, Vermont workers remain slaves in many, many ways,” Sanders said.
“We believe ultimately that companies like Vermont Marble should be owned by the workers themselves and that workers—not a handful of owners—should be determining policy,” Sanders said. “If a worker at Vermont Marble has no say about who owns the company he works for and that major changes can take place without his knowledge and consent, how far have we really advanced from the days of slavery, when black people were sold to different owners without their consent?”
Now, after we abolish landlords, who will fix the plugged toilets, replace the garage doors, replace the built-in appliances?
All we have to do is look at the New Orleans Superdome after the people controlled it during the hurricane Katrina.
Or, look at the homeless encampments where supposedly workers who can’t afford housing live in CA.
And, speaking of workers, if we abolish capitalism, who are all these workers going to get their paychecks from?
Who will coordinate purchasing of raw materials, leasing of equipment (not cheap) at the right time, obtaining of permits and all the other things that only CAPITAL can guarantee?
@Nan G: What you get in the end is they pretend to pay us we pretend to work. 10 year waiting list to buy a car of imported parts.
@Deplorable Me: Greg want to change the subject, the gulags with turn down service and breakfast in bed, not so bad only the elite breaking rocks
Thats what Bernie boy want for US citizens. Mass genocide by starvation as done to Ukraine in the 30s. No they bring Utopia
I submit Executive Order 13603
@kitt: Greg is merely confident he, being on the side of socialism, would not be subjected to their oppression. He missed the “Socialist Police State” chapter in history at the Episcopal school.