Richard Fernandez:
NBC news described the state of public knowledge about the terror threat that’s closed down 21 or more American embassies and consulates and which several other Western countries have emulated. “A meeting of the National Security Council chaired by Susan Rice was held at the White House Saturday evening to discuss the latest intelligence regarding the threat of an al Qaeda attack. There are different views among analysts — including whether a plot is already underway, with team members already selected, as reported Saturday by CBS. … There is no consensus on whether the plot is underway, officials told NBC News.”
The other way to put it was how Peter King summarized things: there ” is very specific information about the fact that there is a plot, that attacks are planned, but again it’s not certain as to where.” The world’s become like Watertown, according to Daniel Pipes. There’s a terrorist out there somewhere, but nobody’s quite sure where. So shelter in place, this time globally.
Notwithstanding the fact that the authorities publicly say they don’t have all the details, the “Intel community worried Obama administration disclosed too much about latest al Qaeda threat”.
Intelligence officials are dismayed that the administration provided so much detail on what prompted the closings, and that the disclosures could work against obtaining new information. Militants are now likely searching for the sources of the information to both the U.S. and Yemeni officials, and almost certainly will kill anyone they suspect of working with Western intelligence.
“There simply are not that many who would know about the attacks,” says one former high-ranking U.S. intelligence officer, “so it won’t be hard for al Qaeda leaders to pin-point the sources of information. Once that happens, they certainly won’t be working with us anymore.”
And all this uproar is before the hundreds of newly-freed al-Qaeda escapees get back to their clandestine cells. Bill Gertz thinks the recent escape of hundreds of hard core terrorists are “threat to the region”. Surely they are. But the jailbreaks were only a few weeks ago, meaning that the current threats to the embassy were probably plannedbefore the bust-outs. We ain’t seen nothing yet.
Does that mean the jailbreaks and the threats to the embassies are part of an al-Qaeda resurgence? Nope. TheChristian Science Monitor’s Mark Sappenfield quotes sources who suggest that the recent attacks suggest that al-Qaeda is dying. Don’t be misled. Things aren’t getting worse, they’re getting better, even if doesn’t look that way.
Here’s a big part of why we are hardening our embassies and getting our Ambassadors out of there:
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As you can see, the people of Egypt have Obama’s number more clearly than many here in the USA have it!
And it isn’t just Egypt.
Obama has been outed as a backer of Islamists all over the ME.
Uh, it’s sure a good thing we have al-Qaeda on the run. Can you imagine how bad it might be if they got aggressive?
From the Washington Times:
Which, of course, is a totally groundless bullshit statement, intended to discredit the administration among people who don’t analyze such assertions too deeply—as in, at all.
“So much detail?” What detail? The “details” are about as minimal as could be given, without simply suggesting that everybody should duck and cover because—well, because there’s a reason.
Attention, al Qaeda! This is the Obama Administration speaking! You’ve got a leak! It’s somebody somewhere in the Arabian peninsula!
Bear in mind that the Washington Times is a politically biased publication heavily subsidized by the late Sun Young Moon’s Unification Church.
@Greg: So funny!
So it’s important that the Times is subsidized by the Unification Church, but the subsidizers of BHO are not important? Did I understand you correctly?
@Redteam, #4:
Yep. You understand me correctly.
“He” would be Sun Myung Moon, as described in the forward to Exposition of the Divine Principle, which members of the Unification Church consider to be scripture—a sort of New New Testament.
I suppose how you think about a news outlet that the Unification Church heavily subsidizes will depend upon whether you believe their church agenda might influence their political views. I strongly suspect that it might. They have every right to promote their views, but I choose to gather my information about current events from a variety of less biased sources.
Which “intelligence officials” are dismayed? Nobody is going to get away with just make assertions like that and having me automatically take in the information as if it were factual. I don’t need that sort of crap planted in my head by propagandists masquerading as journalists.
@Greg: LOL, like Jeremiah Wright’s church, for example? At least they’re open about thinking and promoting the evilness of the United States. and they support your prez. By the way, his middle name was Myung, not Young
I don’t pay much attention to Jeremiah Wright, either.
Sun Myung Moon. I stand corrected.
@Greg:
You might not, but you can’t say that about your guy.
HE MADE A DECISION PRETTY FAST THIS TIME, HE SHOULD KNOW BY NOW THAT EVERYTIME HE SEND DRONES TO ALQAEDAS HE GET RETALIATION,
HE REACT AS SOON AS THE THREAT WAS GIVEN, A HIT AND RUN,
if HE could have done the same for BENGHASI, THERE WOULD BE FOUR GOOD BRAVES STILL ALIVE NOW, AND THEY WHERE ASK MANY MONTHS BEFORE, BUT THEY COULD HAVE EXPLAIN SOMETHING,
OH WAIT, OBAMA HAD AN ELECTION TO WIN,
AND NOTHING COULD DISRUPT IT,
SAD IS IN IT,
and he cover it as if he was involved in the guilt, even change the names of those CIA WHO WHERE THERE, AND GAVE THEM THE LIE DETECTOR CHECK, SO THEY CANNOT TALK, OF THE RUNNING WEAPONS GIMMICK TO SYRIA’S REBELS, WHICH HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR SOMETIMES,
@Greg#5
“Nobody is going to get away with just make assertions like that and having me automatically take in the information as if it were factual. I don’t need that sort of crap planted in my head by propagandists masquerading as journalists.”
WOW!! and LOL Greg!
A little testy aren’t we Greg? Your statement here is very ironic coming from you. This type of “blanket” statement is what the Liberals/Progressives/Socialists/LMSM shove down Americans throats in their “propaganda”ALL THE TIME…. for Decades!!!… and sadly low information Liberals just eat and swallow all the lefty bull crap (“blanket” assertions) up… and, sadly, as fact!
So, Not really sure why you are complaining…assertions as fact – this is the typical liberal drum roll…you should be used to it by now.
I can only pray this is why the lamestreammedias ratings are in the crapper…Americans have figured it out and are tired of the B/S they are being fed as fact!
Just glad you have found out what it feels like when a conservative reads liberal propaganda and “blanket assertions”…that are shoved in our faces like it is Fact!!
@FAITH7, #10:
Right.
So who are these “intelligence officials” who are dismayed, and what is all of this detailed information that the administration supposedly released?
Basically, there are 3 totally unfounded assertions in that single Washington Times paragraph. So far as I can tell, there are no intelligence officials who are dismayed; there is actually no detailed information that was leaked; and there’s no evidence that any of what they’ve conjured up came through channels inside the Obama administration.
This is much like FOX’s sources on the ground in Benghazi material. It’s a load of manure.
Ironic, isn’t it, how Greggie so easily dismisses any “anonymous” source from a news outlet that he doesn’t think is liberal enough. But you can bet your sweet a$$ that Greggie was wetting himself when an “anonymous” source claimed that the Bush Administration had outed a former clandestine CIA agent by the name of Valerie Plame.
Seems to me the Democrats whet out after the Bush Administration over that “anonymous” source, first accusing Dick Cheney and then demanding that Karl Rove be frog marched out of the White House. A whole case was build on the back of that “anonymous” source as the Democrats went after George Bush’s jugular vein.
Look up Hypocrite in the dictionary. You will find Greggie’s name there as the definition.
Lest we forget, Obama, being so concerned over the safety of his FSOs in all these embassies, and wanting to be on top of the situation, left the problem in the hands of first class liar, Susan Rice, and he went to play golf.
@retired05#12 – Your comment clarifies the point I was trying to make even further-thank you.
Especially…
…Greggie so easily dismisses any “anonymous” source from a news outlet that he doesn’t think is liberal enough.
Besides the “Officials” Greg has his pants in a wedge about is more likely the U.S. State Department (spokes people)…with their statements concerning AQ and embassies closing “on Sunday”is most likely what got the “intelligence community” (the “officials” “intelligence officials” in dismay)….
The U.S. State Dept (spokes people/officials) is Ofrauds Administration is it not?
A lot of these “Officials” and “Intelligence community” “spokes persons” on all sides will speak to reporters only if they remain anonymous in their report. I’ve read several reports with “Officials” speaking on anonymity.
Greg, this was Richard F’s point.
Note he also said:
“….the threat is understood as specific but nebulous….”
“….the administration is dealing with the worldwide security threat in a serious but casual way.”
“The Obama administration is in an interesting phase, one in which things are under control but falling apart,
where they are winning but they’re losing,
when the economy is booming but real unemployment is unexpectedly high.
It’s a time when Obamacare is just around the corner but just postponed.”
“….none of the specifics are exact…”
Whichever line suits the Obama Administration, that is the spin his compliant media does for him.
As to the leak and al Qaeda’s ability to find and kill the right guy….the actual leaker….remember, al Qaeda can kill as many of their own as they’d like.
If they narrow it down to 20 or 30 guys, I would not be surprised if they killed them all.
After all, each and every one in al Qaeda is willing to die for the furtherance of their goal of a world-wide caliphate.
And paradise is assured to each of the 19 or 29 innocent ones who die so they can get the right one.
I think it bears repeating:
US intelligence worried Obama govt may have disclosed ‘too much info’ on current al-Qaeda threat
Obama administration disclosed too much about latest al Qaeda threat: Intel community worried
Obama talked too much about al-Qaeda threat again?
LiveLeak: Yemeni warning.Intelligence officials are dismayed that the administration provided so much detail on what prompted the closings,
Week-end Terror Threat Widens – Intel Compromised
Unexplained, conflicting US global terror warnings now extend to American homeland
Gee Greg, Looks like it isn’t just the Washington Times.
Salon: The sham “terrorism expert” industry A highly ideological, jingoistic clique masquerades as objective scholars, all to justify US militarism By Glenn Greenwald
Oops! Salon? How did that get in there?
When the going gets tough, Obama goes golfing.
And now crickets from Greg..
@Greg:
Maybe if some edited video was provided you would be more convinced? Sources don’t remain sources for long if they give their names. For a long time, we relied on the integrity of journalists to fact check their own sources but nowadays, thanks mostly to the reporting from YOUR side, every story has to be taken with a sack of salt.
You would be wise, Greg, to doubt and check such stories out. However, spread the doubt around among both side’s stories. The old left wing mantra of citing every bit of disturbing news as “Faux New” and “Fox-bot” drivel is tired and worn. Face it; this administration is incompetent and lies to cover the fact.
@bburris, #18:
In general, I find the right-leaning media to be the least reliable among all mainstream media sources. The deliberate efforts of FOX News to alter the outcome of the last presidential election by providing strongly biased news coverage was so glaringly obvious it was almost embarrassing.
I think the right-leaning media has carefully conditioned their audiences to be highly receptive to their message, and to automatically look upon all competing sources with great suspicion. People don’t even seem to question information provided by unnamed sources, even when the statements attributed to them are obviously useful to someone’s agenda, and are totally unverifiable through any other channels.
I know propaganda techniques when I see them, regardless of who is using them. The right is using them to a far greater extent. The right is using them almost constantly.
@Ditto, #16:
No, it isn’t. It’s many additional compartments of the right-wing echo chamber, bouncing around the same message without any additional details to back the message up. Simple repetition doesn’t make a message true. It only makes it more likely that people will begin to believe it.
You’ve got me. The Salon article dates from a year ago. The topic was exploitation of the public’s fear of terrorism by supposed “terrorism experts” to further particular agendas.
The fact that U.S. embassies are currently bracing for a possible al Qaeda attack isn’t an example of such exploitation. It’s an example of a logical response to what is apparently an immediate and credible threat. Even conservative political leaders admit that the reaction is probably justified.
@Greg: Greg, do you ever leave La La Land?
Greg
so you where watching FOX NEWS, AND YOU COULDN’T BELIEVE THE TRUTH,
you had to twist it as false, as you always do, for the RIGHT,
NOTHING TO SEE THERE, JUST THE USUAL FROM GREG’S DISTORTED JUDGEMENT,
@Greg:
Those other reports were not just throwing up the same copy which is why I posted them. Are you really so lame that you think that those journalists (who reported from various parts of the world,) are in cahoots? When other news agencies report the same information in other news reports, do you always automatically reject them because they are reporting the same information? Please.
Pure assumption on your part. We don’t know what the al-Qeuada communications were that precipitated this very extreme decision, so none of us can say that we “know” that it is a “logical response” nor can you because you don’t know what caused the State Department’s reaction, nor why they felt it necessary to suddenly abandon 20 of our embassies.
Ditto
did you read that poster among other, but that one from EGYPT READ:
AMERICANS, WAKE UP, OBAMA IS A FACIST MARXIST COMMUNIST LEADER.
DO YOU THINK HE IS DOING IT FOR REVENGE?
@ilovebeeswarzone:
No, I did not Bees. Do you have a link?
Ditto
I saw that at FOX NEWS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO
THAT’S ALL I HAVE,,
I will check to find it for you,