No More Pretense: Journalists, Dems Use Identical Talking Points on Impeachment

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Television journalists these days sound so similar to Democrats on impeachment that it’s nearly impossible to tell them apart. Weeks before the impeachment inquiry was even announced, talking heads were passing off Democratic talking points as objective information about the President’s alleged wrongdoing.

What follows is a compilation video of some of the liberal media’s greatest minds spouting DNC talking points. These journalists have not had their words taken out of context while attempting to summarize the Democrats’ position. Whether or not they they were intentionally regurgitating the words of Democrats, they did so without attributing their words to anyone. Watch below:



It gets worse. On October 3, New York Times columnist Frank Bruni and Politico chief political correspondent Tim Alberta both recited language from a DNC press release, verbatim. Bruni (on CNN Newsroom) and Alberta (on MSNBC’s The 11th Hour) each asserted that Vice President Pence’s professed ignorance about the President’s talks with Ukraine did not “pass the smell test,” — only a day after the DNC published a press release titled,  “Pence is an Accomplice to Trump’s Abuse of Power and his Denials Don’t Pass the Smell Test.”

And just after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on October 4 alleged that the President had “betrayed” his “oath of office,” NBC political director Chuck Todd voiced the same accusation on the NBC Nightly News as his own personal point of view: “What [Trump] has admitted to in the last 48 hours is essentially violations of his oath to the Constitution.”

Journalists also dutifully repeated Democrats’ allegations of a “coverup” by the Trump administration. For example, on October 4, CNN’s gray eminence Carl Bernstein assured the viewers of New Day: “Let’s be clear here; we are watching a cover-up. We are watching a cover-up by the President of the United States.”

Later that evening, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow sounded alarmingly similar to Adam Schiff when she theorized that “the investigation into the cover-up” might “end up being a whole, separate article of impeachment in terms of obstruction of justice.” That latter charge — obstruction of justice — also received considerable mileage on CNN and MSNBC.

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@Richard Wheeler: Wassamatter crumedgeon aging depends on genes, 05 can do a simple internet search and much more. First link proves the coven.

Tongue in cheek? to refer to a god of child sacrifice? Oh thats just a knee slapper. Babies and toddlers rolled alive into a big ol fire pit…tee hee haha

@Deplorable Me: The point is if you accuse her of witchcraft and strangling chickens–it weakens more credible and important arguments,—-like falsely accusing Major Gabbard —

kITT—-Didn’t realize you were THAT far gone—talking about buying into all that’s fed to you–through crazed internet blogs no less–I got more faith in Fox and CNN as do 95% of Americans—haven’t seen those witchcraft/chicken strangling stories.
What have they got on Elvis or Adolph being alive—Any good ALIEN INVASION blogs

BTW—it’s CURMUDGEON–you never learned to spell?–too much time on the internet perhaps?

@Richard Wheeler: lol did you read about the so-called coven? Just deflect, its a womens club that enjoys flower arranging, they simply call themselves a coven, no simmering cauldrens filled with eye of newt, damn you are old and goofy.
I stand corrected on spelling of your most accurate description lol

@kitt: Glad to hear it’s all fake news— not very funny joke-makes sense. You gotta admit DT a KKK member also a knee slapper.
You gonna work on your spelling? If you do I’ll up my internet searches.

@Richard Wheeler: You bust my chops for 1 word pfffft!

how about a little Santana?

or Eagles?

But it wasnt fake news they refer to themselves as a coven, in real life they are a collection of over the hill gold diggers that can name every piece of jewelry by their husbands mistresses that they discovered. Hill is an honorary member.

@kitt: I’ll bust your chops as long as you bust mine—very Trumpian of me.

Santana and The Eagles—two favorites—seen em both multiple times,

@Richard Wheeler:

The point is if you accuse her of witchcraft and strangling chickens–it weakens more credible and important arguments,—-like falsely accusing Major Gabbard —

Or the multiple and ongoing false accusations against Trump for the sole purpose of bringing down a duly elected President… right?

So… how about that media? Dishonest?

@Deplorable Me: It was actually making false accusations about me, I never did accused anyone of strangling chickens, perhaps he is projecting? (you figure that out lol) I never accused her of witchcraft not once her being an honorary coven member was FACT.
What Cheryl does to chickens she should keep under her pointy hat and not email the SOS about it.

@kitt: Conspiracy addicts.

@kitt:

I see that Wheeler has spent the day being his usual asshat self, but no surprise. And how typical of him to drag me into the conversation when I have deliberately stayed out of it. And aren’t you glad to know that he is the self appointed spelling police.

Did you really think Wheeler cares about the children that are being trafficked into the sex trade by coyotes and other illegals? About as much as he cares about the babies that are ripped out of their mother’s wombs only to have Planned Parenthood sell their body parts. Now, if that were puppies that were being cut up and sold, he would be marching in the streets of California. He does have his priorities, you know. Remember, he is from a state that can’t even keep the lights on.

@Deplorable Me:

So… how about that media? Dishonest?

You really expect Wheeler to answer? How many times have you asked him that?

Of course, Wheeler will not come back with some snide response to me, thinking he is too cute by half, never admitting it is he who always draws first blood.

@retire05: did you mean not come back or now come back—just askin–I could do either—since I ignore most of your comments as pure bluster.
Fact is I’m a counter puncher like Trump. You can’t prove otherwise

@Richard Wheeler:

did you mean not come back or now come back—just askin–I could do either—

Now.

since I ignore most of your comments as pure bluster.

Yet, here you are, responding to me, not ignoring my comments. Right on cue, Wheeler, right on cue.

Fact is I’m a counter puncher like Trump. You can’t prove otherwise

That may be, but he’s good at it. You’re not.

Seems you have some inherent desire to show just how juvenile you are.

@kitt, #69:

Who is in charge of the budget right now?

Democrats regained a House of Representatives majority only as of January 3, 2019. Prior to that, Republicans had control of the House from January 3, 2011 through January 2, 2019—the past 9 consecutive years.

Fiscal Year 2020 will be the first year Democrats will again be “in charge of the budget”, as you seem to want to define control. That year doesn’t commence until October 1, 2019. Our current trillion-dollar-plus deficits are on Trump and the GOP.

Party divisions of United States Congresses; a summary history of majority control.

@Richard Wheeler:

Fact is I’m a counter puncher like Trump. You can’t prove otherwise

Well, actually, I can prove otherwise. More often than not, you REFUSE to answer a direct and relatively simple question, such as Is Gabbard just a whiny crybaby or is the liberal media guilty of targeting persons and attacking them with unfounded attacks. An actual counter punch would answer the question in such a way that would prove me wrong about one or the other. Just ignoring the question and wishing it would go away is something quite different.

@Greg: Republicans have not had a majority large enough to override Democrat obstruction, while Democrats have had a super majority. What did they do with it? Well, they passed a trillion dollar “stimulus” that did nothing and socialized health care. Who knows what Republicans would do with full control? It would be interesting to see, but the fact is that no budgets cuts will ever happen as long as Democrats can block them, and budget cuts, not tax increases, is what is necessary.

Obama and Democrats increased the debt by $10 trillion. That cannot be disputed. Suddenly being concerned with deficits just because Trump is President is not all that convincing.

@Deplorable Me: I answered the question—you didn’t see my answer—look for it–I’m tired of repeating myself. –you talk yet refuse to listen—typical Trumpist.

@Greg: The US last had ZERO National Debt in 1835.
1997 since a real budget was passed.
I know full well the GOP is as big a spender as the DNC fugging uniparty its scandalous. Why do we keep these assholes on both sides under our employment. Liars and thieves fat bloated government. The traitor before Ryan, John Boehner, was nothing but a drunk good for nothing. Once they lie their way into office we cant remove them only congress can fire another congress creature.

Damn I thought they were not suppose to make the candidates look bad Kamala:

“[Rudy] has clearly broken many laws.”

Anderson:

“What are the specific laws you believe Giuliani has broken or may have broken?”

Ready for this?

Here ya go:

“Well, I, I, I don’t know. We’re going to find out.”

Former prosecutor bwahaahahaha

@Richard Wheeler: No, you didn’t answer the question; does the liberal media attack people for political purposes? Does the liberal media do the bidding of Democrat establishment? THAT is the question and you HAVE NOT answered it.

Gabbard crossed Hillary by endorsing Bernie (making her a supporter of socialism, by the way) and Hillary ordered the liberal media to lay into her. And they did. THAT’S your side. Vindictive scumbags controlling what is supposed to be an objective media. THAT’S what we conservatives have been saying all along, which you liberals have denied all along and which you can’t face up to.

@kitt: Well, that IS the characteristic Democrat approach. Trump should be impeached. Why? He broke numerous laws. Like, what? Trump should be impeached. Why? He broke numerous laws. Like, what? Trump should be impeached. NEVER an answer to the question because all they are doing is trying to weaponize the legal system to create their police state. Anyone can be attacked for any reason; “Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.”

@Deplorable Me:

Wheeler states:

I answered the question—you didn’t see my answer—look for it–I’m tired of repeating myself. –you talk yet refuse to listen—typical Trumpist.

Nothing like liberal arrogance on display. Or laziness. How long does it take to simply cut and paste his [claimed] answer if he doesn’t want to retype it?

Fact is; Wheeler doesn’t answer questions he views as inconvenient to his agenda but he does think you are too stupid to understand that.

@retire05: If he answered it, I didn’t see it, and I’ve been looking for his answer. I’m not going to waste time going back through 117 responses to find what I know isn’t there. If he answered, he can copy the answer.

But he didn’t. It’s a very inconvenient question to answer: does the liberal media, as we have been protesting, falsely accuse political opponents of wrong? 99% of the time, it is directed against Republicans, but sometimes Democrats step out of line and forget they are only allowed to do what they are told. Sometimes they need to be spanked.

Going against Hillary is a death sentence… sometimes literally. Gabbard chose the wrong socialist.

@Deplorable Me:

If he answered it, I didn’t see it, and I’ve been looking for his answer. I’m not going to waste time going back through 117 responses to find what I know isn’t there. If he answered, he can copy the answer.

For some time now, it’s been SOP for Wheeler to claim he answered a question, but when I have tried to find them, the result is always the same; zip.

Cut and paste is a simple tool that can be used when he doesn’t want to retype an answer. But a quick perusal of this thread doesn’t show Wheeler using that tool. Perhaps he really is so computer illiterate he doesn’t know how, not withstanding the absolute fact that he dodges answering any question he finds to not be advantageous to his agenda.

Seems PG&E is announcing that California could suffer mass blackouts for a decade as they have failed to maintain their plant and the growth that threatens it. What was the California utility commission doing all this time? Can’t wait until Wheeler tells us how great Loonafornia is again. It’s leadership can’t even keep the lights on. But it can pardon criminal illegal aliens.

@Deplorable Me: I’ve said more than once I generally support the free press–good job in calling out pols lies and misdirections Think Tuksi would agree.
Problem is HRC and those in DNCstill propping her up
Tulsi has called her out from behind her curtain no response so far

Anything else?

@rich wheeler: Yeah. Answer the question. Stop dancing around it.

@Deplorable Me: Last time—I support all media lib, conserv or Christian Science monitor to say what they want—-free press whether you like it or not—-alternative is worse—if you are libeled bring suit and punish them
as to whining—see my #78
Don’t like those answers again—OK I rarely think much of yours

That’s political discourse

@Richard Wheeler: So you support the media lying about Gabbard and declaring her a Russian asset simply because Hillary told them to. Hmmm.

You know, that’s not really journalism. That’s propaganda and when the media lies more often than it tells the truth, relying on it for news is difficult.

But you support them. You accept them lying and don’t mind promoting it. I guess I finally got my answer.

@Deplorable Me: Scoop — sometimes the media lies
Trump lies—“I’m bringing the troops home”—-Er by way of Iraq

Smart people can pick apart their lies—as in –“believe half of what you see and none of what you read” a good place to start
You’re bothered by what the “lib” media says—–many of us are bothered by what Trump says.
As Kitt would say–research it—debate it–debunk it—that’s the way it is.

Historically the media—free press– has done a lot more good than bad—Watergate comes to mind

Tulsi’s a big girl—Donald a very big boy

They can handle it

I’m with Tulsi—-HRC should come out and play—one on one

@Rich Wheeler: The liberal media is a propaganda tool of the Democrats. Why do the Democrats need a propaganda arm? Well, so they can use them to destroy political enemies. Like Gabbard, that shows themselves to be uncontrollable. I can remember another political movement that used propaganda to destroy opponents. They were socialists, too.

And they, too would attack the politically unreliable with false accusations. You might want to take a closer look at what you are buying in to.

Oh, and Gabbard supports socialism. So, there’s that.

@Deplorable Me: I’d much rather have an honest socialist than a lying con man like Trump.
Gabbard is an environmentalist–that in itself would get my vote over Trump

Fox is a propaganda arm of the Republican Party–DT gives them marching orders —many dummies buy into their B.S–

BTW—NAZIIS WERE ULTRA-NATIONALIST SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE ANTI IMMIGRANT FAR RICHT TOTALITARIANS—sound familiar.

@Richard Wheeler: There are no honest socialists. All of your socialist candidates are millionaires. They are all liars and they are lying to get their socialist hands on the US taxpayer’s throats.

Meanwhile, Trump has being doing exactly what he pledged to do. At every turn, it is revealed that your beloved DEMOCRATS are lying and Trump is telling the truth. Trump has been spied on and investigated for three years and HE has been shown to be the honest one.

Fox has been fair and honest, criticizing Trump harshly. They just don’t MAKE UP stories in order to have something negative to report and actually cover his many positive achievements. In case you forgot, THAT is what actual journalism looks like… NOT CNN or MSNBC.
Beginning to see how that propaganda works yet? Actually, I doubt it.

@Richard Wheeler:

Fox is a propaganda arm of the Republican Party–

Bullshit.
Fox has Juan Williams, Donna Brazil, Richard Goodstein, Jessip)ca Tarlov (she never shuts up) and numerous other left wingers who are regularly on Fox.
Perhaps you would like to list the Republican/conservative voices on CNN, MSNBC, et al?

gives them marching orders —

Bullshit. Prove that claim.

many dummies buy into their B.S–

Probably equal to those who buy in Don LeMon’s crap which is so off the chart he needs mental health treatment.

The long and the short of the following article is that if the House proceeds with impeachment, there’s almost certainly going to be a full trial conducted in the Senate. It’s unlikely that McConnell could derail it or abbreviate the process. The obstacle? The integrity of Justice John Roberts and Senators Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, and Lisa Murkowski.

October 21, 2019 – John Roberts Won’t Let Mitch McConnell Derail a Trump Impeachment Trial

On Wednesday, the Washington Post reported on a closed-door session among Senate Republicans discussing the way they should conduct a trial if President Donald Trump is impeached by the House. According to at least one senator, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell indicated that he is aiming for a rapid process that might start around Thanksgiving and end by Christmas. There are many reasons, though, to think that such a rush to judgment will fail.

The Constitution explicitly states that the chief justice, in this case John Roberts, “shall preside” over presidential impeachment trials. The rules of the Senate, moreover, require McConnell to take this command seriously. In order to prevent the vice president, who formally presides over the Senate, from refusing to allow the chief justice to play his constitutional role, the Senate rules governing impeachment require the vice president to swear in the chief justice immediately after the House’s charges are announced on the floor. The rules then explicitly empower the chief justice to “direct all the forms of proceedings” during the trial. The Senate, in contrast, is granted the “power to enforce obedience” to all these rulings.

This separation of powers between the chief justice and the Senate was at the center of public attention as the country prepared itself for the impeachment trial of President Andrew Johnson, which began on March 4, 1868. At that time, the Senate approved the rules that were later codified and remain in force today. As the New York Times reported on March 3, 1868, Sen. George Williams of Oregon argued “that the intention of the Constitution was to empower the Chief Justice to decide questions … as he would in any court as its presiding officer. To do otherwise would be to act with a sort of jealousy and make him a sort of figure head.” Sen. John Sherman of Ohio agreed that “the usage of all bodies [is] to submit such questions to the presiding officer.”

The Williams-Sherman accord was significant. Williams was a leader of the moderate wing of the Republican Party while Sherman was a leading Radical. If there was any chance of convicting Johnson, both wings of the Republican Party had to agree on the rules regulating its unprecedented exercise of the impeachment power. (Johnson was ultimately acquitted by a single vote.)

The current rules are not written in stone. The existing Senate could change them before the trial begins. But it is unlikely, to say the least, that McConnell could gain the majority support required for a revision. Because all Democrats would oppose this move, only three Republican defections would stop the majority leader in his tracks. From his public statements, it’s already clear that Sen. Mitt Romney would never go along. Similarly, Sen. Susan Collins has already said that senators should refuse to voice any opinions on the current battle between the House and the president “since they will be jurors” during the trial. On Friday, Sen. Lisa Murkowski also expressed disapproval of some of the president’s reported actions. Given these positions, it is implausible to suppose that these three senators would support any rule change that, in Williams’ words, would make the chief justice into a “figurehead” for blatant partisan politics.

There are ways of circumventing these basic rules of the road. One provision authorizes a majority of the Senate vote to overturn a ruling of the presiding officer on evidentiary matters. Yet it seems highly unlikely that McConnell could persuade one of the three skeptics to join the rest of the Republican caucus in rebuking the Republican-appointed chief justice in such a humiliating fashion. The Senate rules also allow a majority to “make all lawful orders, rules, and regulations which it may deem essential or conducive to the ends of justice.” Some commentators have suggested that McConnell could invoke this provision to require a final Senate vote by a specific date. Again, it seems almost certain that at least three Republican senators would defect to prevent such a partisan power play.

Given his deep commitment to professionalism, John Roberts can be counted on to deflect any behind-the-scenes pressures for speed. These inclinations would be reinforced, moreover, by the recent controversy surrounding the appointment of Brett Kavanaugh. Everybody remembers McConnell ramming the nomination through without a full investigation of multiple allegations of misconduct; Roberts cannot allow the same hardball tactics to repeat themselves. Moreover, the reconstituted Roberts court is giving every indication that it will be beginning an assault this term on Roe v. Wade and other fundamental precedents of the past half-century. Given the heated controversies that will be generated by these decisions, the chief justice will be even more reluctant to waste his political capital by enabling a partisan rush to judgment on Trump.

@Greg: 1 problem no crime to impeach on.
The hoax of Russians the hoax of quid pro, with the investigation of Barr bringing home the bacon they are going to need a much bigger hoax run by someone much more competent than Shifty.

If there’s a trial, a verdict will be reached based upon consideration of the testimony and evidence, not on propaganda-shaped public opinion. Trump has ordered his subordinates to break specific laws, breaking his oath of office. This is not a matter of opinion. It’s a matter of public record.

@Greg: First you must prove it was at his orders, and not the White House legal team or internal legal advice or policy. Then prove the statute will hold up against the constitution. Just because a law is passed by congress doesnt mean its constitutional.
Until Pelosi takes a full vote this little impeachment circus means nothing.

@kitt, #133:

A president can be removed from office without establishing that he committed a crime. Although proof of a crime would meet the requirements, “high crimes and misdemeanors” isn’t actually defined by criminal law, nor limited to criminal violations. A president could do something sufficiently unacceptable to warrant removal from office without actually having committed a statutory crime.

It wouldn’t necessarily be a statutory crime for a president to put personal gain ahead of the good of the nation, but it could be more than enough to warrant removal from office. Betrayal of the public trust bestowed on the holder of a high office would be sufficient.

Pelosi doesn’t have to take a vote on anything other than actual articles of impeachment. Anyone who thinks they’re not serious because no vote has been taken about conducting the investigation that precedes that is seriously mistaken.

@Greg: Democrats hold hearings in secret and will not let Republicans see the transcripts

CROOKS: Lawless Democrats Will No Longer Allow GOP Lawmakers to View Transcripts from Impeachment Hearings (VIDEO)

If there is anyone in the world that mistakes what Democrats are trying to do as following the law and Constitution, they are a complete deaf and blind idiot. Democrats, with the full and complete support of the corrupt liberal media, don’t even PRETEND to respect the law and Constitution. They won’t even vote on censure of Schiff who, like Hillary committing perjury before Congress, LIED about what Trump said on the phone conversation with Zelensky, a transcript of which he had right before him. Democrats EMBRACE lies and corruption.

All Democrats are trying to do is distract from the facts Barr has coming out and try to destroy Trump… before he destroys them.

@Greg: Just because you dont like him is not a reason for impeachment, go to the senate for a trial without proof of a crime?
You just posted insanity total rubber room nonsense, time for a white huggymyself coat for Greg, it is funny farm time.
Put a case before the senate and a Supreme Court Judge that is comprised of inane ramblings and empty accusations?
GET A GRIP ON REALITY!
Well Mitch we really dont like him and because of our insanity we think he is a criminal, so we want you guys to remove him from office.
Senate Vote To Override Trump Emergency Declaration Veto FAILS Mike Lee voted against Trump.
Im going to be laughing all day at that.

@Deplorable Me:

If there is anyone in the world that mistakes what Democrats are trying to do as following the law and Constitution, they are a complete deaf and blind idiot.

@kitt:

You just posted insanity total rubber room nonsense, time for a white huggymyself coat for Greg, it is funny farm time

.

Oh, wait, haven’t y’all accepted that Comrade Greggie is a Constitutional scholar and knows so much more than you do (or anyone else for that matter) about the Constitutional requirements for impeachment? Frankly, when I read Comrade Greggie’s posts which are nothing more than (the much disgraced) CNN talking points from those who have never read a law book, I want to go into fits of laughter.

Meanwhile, the left wing press, and Comrade Greggie ignore two words: Katie Hill.

@retire05: Ms Hill the one that combs the hair of her staff members, didnt some one tell her to make a sammich? lol

Well, as long as none of those she gets nekkid with are Russians, it’s OK.