Left Wingers Are Hysterical About Federal Agents Policing Protests in Portland

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Rick Moran @ PJ Media:

The New York Times headline is scary: “Federal Agents Unleash Militarized Crackdown on Portland.” They’re “unleashing” a “crackdown”? Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Naturally, the hysterical left is having a cow. While a decent argument could be made that even if Portland authorities aren’t doing their job, the feds should keep their nose out of local police matters, this is too much.

Fox News:



One protester, Mark Pettibone, told The Washington Post men in green military fatigues and generic “police” patches jumped out of an unmarked minivan early Wednesday and arrested him as he walked home from what he characterized as a peaceful protest. He told the Post he was scared because he did not know who detained him. Reports of similar incidents have drawn condemnation from civil rights groups.

Some Democratic officials accused the Trump administration of sending unidentifiable agents.

“Authoritarian governments, not democratic republics, send unmarked authorities after protesters,” said Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., on Twitter, along with a video of a protester being arrested and placed into an unmarked van. “These Trump/Barr tactics designed to eliminate any accountability are absolutely unacceptable in America, and must end.”

DHS says that’s nonsense, that their agents were uniformed and identified themselves. The spokesman said they weren’t wearing name badges because of fears for the agent’s personal safety. The same reasoning justifies an unmarked van. In a city where cop cars are being lit up like 4th of July fireworks, it’s a wise move to use an unmarked van.

The situation in Portland was bad — is bad. Federal property has been vandalized and destroyed. And since the local authorities appear powerless to stop the mayhem, someone in the federal government — presumably the president of the United States — decided that order had to be restored.

But is that really his job to do? Portland is not a federal city. It’s a city in the sovereign state of Oregon. The governor, the mayor, the chief of police, could put a stop to the demonstrations all by themselves. They are not powerless. But they have chosen not to.

It’s not for the president to say if it’s a wise choice or a good choice. That’s for the people of Oregon to decide. The local and state authorities have not requested federal assistance. They have, in fact, asked all federal law enforcement personnel to leave. They claim that the presence of federal law enforcement is not helping “to contain or de-escalate the situation it’s obviously having exactly the opposite impact,” according to Mayor Ted Wheeler.

Well, that may or may not be true. Wheeler doesn’t acknowledge the counter-argument that is equally valid; that doing nothing encourages the violence. Be that as it may, it’s still troubling that any federal law enforcement personnel are assigned to do anything more than protect federal property. These CPB agents appear to be ranging far afield to protect federal structures.

CBP agents were sent to Portland to protect federal property. Federal officers have charged at least 13 people with crimes related to the protests so far, Oregon Public Broadcasting reported Thursday. Some have been detained by the federal courthouse, which has been the scene of protests. But others were reportedly grabbed blocks away.

On Thursday night, federal officers reportedly deployed tear gas and fired non-lethal rounds into a crowd of protesters hours after Wolf’s visit.

Wheeler and local officials are deluding themselves if they think playing nice with anarchists and barbarians will do anything except encourage more violence and destruction.

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Let the feds stand down.
Also let the federal taxpayers stand down from paying to repair all the damages these babies cause while their permissive mayors and governors allow them to run wild.
Fair is fair.

snowflake, lying, piece of feces mark pettibone is blowing smoke up the ass of the left. one must look at federal property and this is the crux of why there are federal troops in the area. these communists want to burn a store, loot and destroy black and which business, loot and destroy the baseball hall of fame to sell the morbilia is one thing. the line is crossed when the threat is made against a federal building or facility. communist rioters will be met with real tear gas, a variety of projectiles and depending upon the level of engagement, the non lethal projectiles will become very real bullets. 55 gr, 5.56 hollow point has a velocity of 3250 f/sec. with an energy of 1290 foot pounds. unlike the socialist, pedipile biden, impact sites are chest and head and not legs and feet.
-messing with federal building and property is going to get some of the communist rioters KILLED.

Love how those brave, courageous ANTIFA warriors all cower and cry whenever confronted by authority. Apparently they figured the blank check for violence the far left “leadership” of Washington and Oregon would just go on forever. Meanwhile, the government there assumes, as they did in Minnesota, that the US taxpayer would be more than happy to step up and foot the bill for their ineptitude and incompetence.

No, it’s time for the insurrections to end. It’s also clear it will take force to stop and prevent it.

The left tries the Hamas tactic of provoking a response with violence, then crying about the response. ANTIFA is cowardly and just evaporates in the face of opposition. Those officers won’t obligingly turn around and allow ANTIFA to clock them in the back of the head with bicycle locks.

@Deplorable Me:

when violence escalates to a federal level, people will die. as far as paying for the minneapolis and minnesota debauchery, the gov and mayor can pound sand. why should I pay for their inept, political stunts, and the idiot mayor of minneapolis thinks she is vp material.

Next time someone says Biden isnt for defunding the police He hired this disrespectful lil shit.
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0PdUt5hy/biden-campaign-staffer-mocked-cops-as-worse-than-pigs-called-for-defunding-police
He is a mindless pawn or he is a violent insurrectionist

@kitt: Biden doesn’t know what he thinks until someone tells him.

Unidentified federal agents grabbing U.S. citizens without specifying charges and whisking them away to unknown locations in unmarked vans… Nothing wrong there, apparently…

That’s third world, banana republic police state behavior. We have no Gestapo in America. This is the sort of extra-judicial crap that people are protesting. Do you imagine it’s calculated to bolster trust in our police? If so, the calculation was made by a damn idiot.

Federal Law Enforcement Is Making Unconstitutional Arrests In Portland

In this video, one can clearly see that masked federal agents in camouflage gear, with no badges identifying who they work for, arrested a man without telling him what he was being charged with or reading him his Miranda rights. They put him in an unmarked van and drove away. They did have a patch that read “police” but there is no such thing as a federal police force. That means that no one knew who had arrested him. It could have been Federal Protective Services, U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Marshals Service, or the United States Customs and Border Protection Agency, all of whom have apparently been sent by Trump to Portland.

@Greg:

comrade greggy-poo, a word of advice, never screw with the President of the US and never, ever screw with a federal agent during rioting periods as in portland. just think, you could be next. recall that they can hold all of these individuals on terrorism charges for 72 hrs w/o lawyer, phone call, just the bare essentials along with interrogation. under doj, interrogation techniques can become very rude.

You can also keep telling yourself that climate change is a hoax and COVID-19 is a leftist scam.

@Greg: the plan in Portland is always to allow a Gestapo fascists, aka antifa and BLM, to run amok until Federal forced intervened… At which time left wing nut jobs like you fallaciously accuse them of being Gestapo fascists.

Lol. Didn’t work.

@Nathan Blue, #10:

You have no effing clue who the unidentified “police” taking U.S. citizens off the streets in unmarked vans to unknown locations are, or under what imagined “legal authority” they’ve done so, do you?

Don’t feel bad. Neither do any of the lawful public officials in Oregon. That’s why the Oregon Attorney General is filing a law suit, and why the U.S. Attorney of the Oregon District has ordered an investigation.

This is probably some of Trump’s latest unconstitutional bullshit. It would be one more compelling reason to take Trump out in November. As if there weren’t more than enough already.

Unmarked vehicles, mini vans, so they could’nt be warned or blocked by groups of hood jumpers. Portland citizens have not had a nights peace in months.
https://twitter.com/Lori1981Ann1/status/1163228366440476672?s=20
Your media is not reporting the nightly riots
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1284453295722029056

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1284453295722029056.html

@Greg:

You have no effing clue who the unidentified “police” taking U.S. citizens off the streets in unmarked vans to unknown locations are, or under what imagined “legal authority” they’ve done so, do you?

You have no clue, in general.

This was horribly telegraphed partisan rhetoric, that when Federal law enforcement finally did their job, Left-wing rags like the NYT would cry foul. The Left is Fascist, and looking to blame the right and Trump of being Fascist when they finally take action. Good one, bro.

They are not peaceful protestors, they are domestic insurgents. Funny how you’re not talking about the deaths, the businesses, the basic principle of law and order.

Trump has followed the Constitution, and defended it, much more than your idiot Democrats. It’s just a fact.

Using the law as a crutch while you simultaneously break it is the act of f*cking cowards.

Round them up. Now.

July 18, 2020 – Federal Officers Deployed in Portland Didn’t Have Proper Training, D.H.S. Memo Said – Rather than tamping down persistent protests in Portland, Ore., a militarized presence from federal officers seems to have re-energized them.

Of course it has reenergized them. That’s what any thoughtful person would expect to happen, since the repeated use of excessive force by police is what set the protests off to begin with.

Trump needs protests to continue, and the more disorderly the better, so that he can portray himself as the only thing standing between America and anarchy. He’ll play that card at every opportunity, even as his own bombastic commentary, thoughtless actions, and abysmal insensitivity to the underlying issues promote divisions and raise the levels of tension. What else is he going to pitch in his efforts to win reelection? The economy? His better and cheaper health care plan? Deficit reductions? His success at bringing COVID-19 under control? Improved foreign relations, and the reining in of Iran and North Korea? Draining the swamp?

PORTLAND, Ore. — The federal agents facing a growing backlash for their militarized approach to weeks of unrest in Portland were not specifically trained in riot control or mass demonstrations, an internal Department of Homeland Security memo warned this week.

The message, dated Thursday, was prepared by the agency for Chad F. Wolf, the acting secretary of Homeland Security, as he arrived in Portland to view the scene in person, according to a copy of the memo obtained by The New York Times. It listed federal buildings in the city and issues officers faced in protecting them.

The memo, seemingly anticipating future encounters with protesters in other cities as the department follows President Trump’s guidance to crack down on unrest, warns: “Moving forward, if this type of response is going to be the norm, specialized training and standardized equipment should be deployed to responding agencies.”

The tactical agents deployed by Homeland Security include officials from a group known as BORTAC, the Border Patrol’s equivalent of a S.W.A.T. team, a highly trained group that normally is tasked with investigating drug smuggling organizations, as opposed to protesters in cities.

The Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The issue is playing out as the aggressive federal campaign to suppress protests in Portland appears to have instead rejuvenated the city’s movement, as protesters gathered by the hundreds late Friday and into Saturday morning — the largest crowd in weeks.

Federal officers at times flooded street corridors with tear gas and shot projectiles from paintball guns, while demonstrators responded by shouting that the officers in fatigues were “terrorists” and chanting: “Whose streets? Our streets.”

A court ruling has largely prohibited the local police from using tear gas during the recent protests, which have played out for more than 50 consecutive nights.

With one Portland protester severely injured in front of the federal courthouse and others pulled by unidentified federal agents into unmarked vans, the extraordinary campaign to subdue protesters has led to widespread condemnation of the federal response in Portland and beyond.

While the protesters have repeatedly decried the city’s own police tactics, Mayor Ted Wheeler, who also serves as police commissioner, and other leaders have united in calls for federal agencies to stay away. Jo Ann Hardesty, a city commissioner, went to join protesters gathered outside the county Justice Center downtown, saying the city would “not allow armed military forces to attack our people.”

“Today we show the country and the world that the city of Portland, even as much as we fight among ourselves, will come together to stand up for our Constitutional rights,” Ms. Hardesty said Friday.

While officials from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security have described the stepped-up involvement of federal officers as part of an effort to oppose lawlessness in the city, state and local leaders contended that the federal officers themselves may be violating the law.

Prosecutors have opened a criminal investigation into the injury of one protester, who appeared to have been shot in the head with a less-lethal weapon outside the federal courthouse in downtown Portland. Ellen Rosenblum, the state’s attorney general, has filed a lawsuit, accusing federal officers of unlawful tactics in how they went about detaining people by pulling them into unmarked vans.

The pushback against the militarized federal deployment involving officers in fatigues and tactical gear has also extended to the streets, where the presence of those federal agents has rejuvenated a movement that had shown signs of finally slowing down after weeks of protest against police violence and militarization.

Hundreds continued to demonstrate after midnight on Saturday, playing music, holding shields, tearing down temporary fences and throwing fireworks at the county’s Justice Center.

Along with street medics, protesters also have the support of a snack van that offers free Gatorade and instant noodles, and a makeshift kitchen called Riot Ribs that cooks bratwursts and Beyond Meat sausage. Someone on Saturday had set up a stand selling T-shirts promoting racial equity and hand washing.

The protests have long featured a mix of tactics, with some there displaying signs to sustain a Black Lives Matter movement that emerged in the aftermath of George Floyd’s death in May. Others have engaged in more unruly responses, such as graffiti or throwing objects at officers. Dozens have been arrested over the weeks, including some by federal officers, such as a man accused of hitting an officer with a hammer last week.

Protests around the federal courthouse — tagged with messages such as “Stop Using Violence On Us” and “History Has Its Eye On You” — have drawn the ire of federal leaders. Mr. Wolf got a tour there this week and shared images of himself in front of graffitied walls.

The arrival of a more aggressive federal presence came after President Trump, who at one point called on states to “dominate” protesters, directed federal agencies to increase their presence to protect federal properties, including statues and monuments that have at times been the target of protesters. Mr. Trump said last week that he had sent personnel to Portland because “the locals couldn’t handle it.”

Gov. Kate Brown said in an interview that she believed that the protests were starting to ease before the federal officers waded into the scene. She said she had asked Mr. Wolf to keep federal agents off the streets but that he rejected the suggestion.

Mr. Wheeler, the mayor, said he got the same response. But he said he believed the unified local response could change the federal tactics and keep federal officers off the streets.

“I can’t recall a single instance where we have had federal, state and local officials all in alignment, saying the presence of federal troops in our city is harmful to our residents,” Mr. Wheeler said.

Mr. Wheeler himself has been the target of protests, with crowds at times gathering outside of his condo. For weeks, he has called for an end to destructive demonstrations, saying he was concerned about “groups who continue to perpetrate violence and vandalism on our streets.”

Senator Jeff Merkley, Democrat of Oregon, said in a tweet that he and Oregon’s other Democratic senator, Ron Wyden, next week would introduce an amendment to the defense bill to stop the Trump administration “from sending its paramilitary squads” onto America’s streets.

Ms. Rosenblum said her office was working with the Multnomah County district attorney, Rod Underhill, on a criminal investigation focused on the injury of a protester on July 12. In that case, video appeared to show a man being struck in the head by an impact munition near the federal courthouse, and his family said he subsequently needed surgery.

The attorney general’s office also filed a lawsuit late Friday accusing federal officers of using unlawful tactics. Protesters, along with videos posted on social media, have described scenes of federal officers seizing people and pulling them into unmarked vans.

The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Oregon has also filed in court to curtail the actions of federal officers, and the group said “many” more lawsuits that would be forthcoming.

Mary B. McCord, a professor at Georgetown Law and former national security official at the U.S. Department of Justice, said the federal tactics and use of unmarked vehicles were reminiscent of the much-criticized federal response to demonstrations in Washington in June.

Ms. McCord said federal officials were on dangerous ground with the tactics they were using, including seizing and detaining protesters off the streets and seemingly portraying all protesters as part of a dangerous movement.

“It sends the message that these people are terrorists and need to be treated like terrorists,” Ms. McCord said.

She added: “This is the kind of thing we see in authoritarian regimes.”

The Trump tool responsible for the Portland Gestapo tactics is Chad Wolf, a former lobbyist having no apparent qualifications to serve as an Acting Head of Homeland Security. We’ve had five DHS heads since Trump was elected.

Wolf on Twitter, Friday:

“I offered @DHSgov support to help locally address the situation that’s going on in Portland, and their only response was: please pack up and go home. That’s just not going to happen on my watch.”

You have no lawful “watch” on the streets in Portland, moron. The elected local and state authorities who declined your “offer”, and the local police who have stated they don’t want your people in their command centers, are those whose watch it is. You certainly have no lawful authority to order U.S. citizens snatched off the streets at will and hauled off to unknown locations in unmarked vans without specifying charges. Neither does your master.

July 18, 2020 – Federal Officers Deployed in Portland Didn’t Have Proper Training, D.H.S. Memo Said – Rather than tamping down persistent protests in Portland, Ore., a militarized presence from federal officers seems to have re-energized them.

NY slimes, hardly a reputable source for accurate information….

The family that owns The New York Times were slaveholders

It’s far worse than I thought. In addition to the many links between the family that owns The New York Times and the Civil War Confederacy, new evidence shows that members of the extended family were slaveholders.

Last Sunday, I recounted that Bertha Levy Ochs, the mother of Times patriarch Adolph S. Ochs, supported the South and slavery. She was caught smuggling medicine to Confederates in a baby carriage and her brother Oscar joined the rebel army.

I have since learned that, according to a family history, Oscar Levy fought alongside two Mississippi cousins, meaning at least three members of Bertha’s family fought for secession.

Adolph Ochs’ own “Southern sympathies” were reflected in the content of the Chattanooga Times, the first newspaper he owned, and then The New York Times. The latter published an editorial in 1900 saying the Democratic Party, which Ochs supported, “may justly insist that the evils of negro suffrage were wantonly inflicted on them.”

Six years later, the Times published a glowing profile of Confederate President Jefferson Davis on the 100th anniversary of his birth, calling him “the great Southern leader.”

Ochs reportedly made contributions to rebel memorials, including $1,000 to the enormous Stone Mountain Memorial in Georgia that celebrates Davis, Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. He made the donation in 1924 so his mother, who died 16 years earlier, could be on the founders’ roll, adding in a letter that “Robert E. Lee was her idol.”

One has to wonder how today’s rabid Fox News and OAN indoctrinated would have reacted in 2009 had Obama sent in storm troopers to round up teabaggers protesting against him to throw into vans and haul off to undisclosed locations- all at the objection of local governments.

Of course, the teabaggers of then now turned full blown glazed over, Heil Hitler saluting Trump enablers know no bounds of hypocrisy, nor do they care.

Removing vagrants disguised as peaceful protesters desecrating Federal property is in the best interest of normal Americans. These pukes are not the droids you are looking for.

This is not the future of a civilized society. But, vote for bumbling brain dead biden and this will be the new normal. Not only do these reprobates want the defund and abolish the police, they also want the same for the United States. Morons like ronald and greg support this bullshit because they themselves have not a principled value that would tell them ‘‘tis is wrong.

@Ronald J. Ward:
Please post a link to a TEA Party riot. You are an idiot and your point of view is irrational, uninformed and undergirded with lies.

@Greg:

Unidentified federal agents grabbing U.S. citizens without specifying charges and whisking them away to unknown locations in unmarked vans… Nothing wrong there, apparently…

They aren’t unidentified. And, at least they aren’t put on trial using nothing but hearsay and their defense is not allowed to present any evidence, as your beloved Democrats like to do. These are violent ANTIFA thugs that scurry away and cower whenever confronted with opposition. Anyone picked up in ANTIFA garb that had the clear intention of getting or was involved in the ongoing riots should be delivered to GITMO. They are nothing but terrorists.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-protesters-police-precinct-chant-burn-it-down?fbclid=IwAR0OdqY3sEeIqOVxIUWLSTDr6K6ZsB7-y1ZFdPtac2CgOlF4DqmYIP-NigA

These aren’t just little kids walking around and getting arrested by mean old GESTAPO agents; they are violent thugs used to getting away with doing whatever they feel like. Just the sort of thing YOU support, like threatening children with death for wearing a MAGA cap.

Maybe it would be more acceptable to you if they were dressed in black, masked and ganging up to beat innocent people with chains and clubs. You seem to approve of that activity.

If the officers are “unidentified”, how do you know who they are and that they weren’t properly trained? Get caught lying much? Besides, how much training does it take to round up Mommy’s little basement dwellers that, when approached, simply tuck tail and cower? Now they fear being grounded and having their Nintendo taken away for a week.

and the local police who have stated they don’t want your people in their command centers

That’s not true. The police want to go out and enforce the law. They want to protect the innocent citizens from the violent fascist thugs the Democrats so openly support and condone. It is the failed “leadership” of Portland and Oregon (as well as Washington) that prevents them from doing their JOB.

The Trump tool responsible for the Portland Gestapo tactics is Chad Wolf, a former lobbyist having no apparent qualifications to serve as an Acting Head of Homeland Security. We’ve had five DHS heads since Trump was elected.

Well, for someone with “no qualifications”, he’s doing a great job. It doesn’t take a lot of training to enforce the law against rioting thugs.

@July 4th American: Wow. They hypocrisy of the NYT, who engaged in an open and determined campaign to do whatever it takes to paint Trump as a racist, to keep their slavery supporting past secret. Perhaps the paper should be liquidated and the money dolled out as reparations.

@Ronald J. Ward:

One has to wonder how today’s rabid Fox News and OAN indoctrinated would have reacted in 2009 had Obama sent in storm troopers to round up teabaggers protesting against him to throw into vans and haul off to undisclosed locations- all at the objection of local governments.

Since the Tea Party marches and protests were NEVER violent (except when the left sent SIEU thugs to attack them), I think we would have responded very openly in support of the Tea Party. Do you think peaceful protesters should be attacked?

@July 4th American

Case in point.

@Deplorable Me:

Yes

Wondering where is all of the uproar by social justice warriors at the NY slimes…

@Jim:
Typical Trump enabler response, unable to do a simple search engine search on their own (“tea party violence” Googles 35,400,000 results) with the only rebuttal of “you’re dumb so take that”.

@Deplorable Me:

Do you think peaceful protesters should be attacked?

No, I think it’s their very Constitutional rights. Obviously, Trump and his Brownshirts believe it depends on either the issue or the political ideology or even how it plays a role in the election.

@Ronald J. Ward: But you said Obama should have attacked Tea Party protesters, who were NEVER violent. They don’t compare to the violent ANTIFA thugs being rounded up in Portland.

@Jim: Ward couldnt even point to where a Tea Party protest left behind litter, often the grounds were cleaner than when they began. They did not protest against Obama, Caused by: Government spending and red tape, national debt, taxation do you think the actually blamed a president that had only been in office for a couple of months? By Barrys end of terms he certainly added plenty.

@July 4th American:

Removing vagrants disguised as peaceful protesters desecrating Federal property is in the best interest of normal Americans.

Okay, so you admit the removal of peaceful vagrants, or something.

To my knowledge, vagrancy is a misdemeanor enacted and/or enforced by local governments and is not a federal crime.

At what point do the feds come into a city unwelcome by the local government and remove those peaceful vagrants when they are, as you say, disguised as protesters? The alleged vagrants you speak of were picked up in the street and not in the process of destroying federal property.

What’s next, federal storm troopers infiltrating states and local governments and assaulting jay walkers?

Your argument is self defeating and nonsensical on the most elementary level.

Is there no limit to Trump trashing the Constitution that his cultists wouldn’t lie to defend him?

@Ronald J. Ward:

What’s next, federal storm troopers infiltrating states and local governments and assaulting jay walkers?

Yes the streets are for cars, at around 5 years old we teach children to go to a corner and safely cross a street. Not stop traffic bash on autos jump on the hoods threaten the drivers or shoot little black girls in the back seat.
Most jurisdictions consider the obstruction of traffic an illegal activity and have developed rules to prosecute those who block, obstruct, impede, or otherwise interfere with the normal flow of vehicular or pedestrian traffic upon a public street or highway.
July 10th ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. —A blocked ambulance is at the center of the latest flare-up between protesters and city officials over safely demonstrating and blocking traffic.
idiot.

@kitt:

Yes the streets are for cars,

Okay, so under Trump and only under Trump, we can add your advocacy of abolishing the 10th Amendment along with your previous list of the 1st and the 4th ?

@Ronald J. Ward: Lighting buildings on fire attacking people and destruction of public property is not a constitutional right.
QUOTE 1st amendment: the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress.
10th? So are the states to maintain and fund national parks that lie within their borders can they sell the land so it can be taxed as well?
4th thats really a dumb thing to bring up when dems are after Trump for his personal papers. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
What exactly does that have to do with lobbing explosives at police?
idiot.
What about the rights of the residents of those areas the rioters have decided belong to them.

@kitt:

You might want to broaden your knowledge of enumerated powers as you seem to be trying to selectively and obviously ignorantly pick the white out of chickenshit.

But I doubt you’d be interested in educating yourself, or accepting any educational knowledge that would expose any critical arguments of this administration as you’ve been specifically been instructed not to by none other than this administration.

@July 4th American, #16:

NY slimes, hardly a reputable source for accurate information….

The New York Times is one of the nation’s most reputable sources of accurate and credible information. It’s on the right’s forbidden list for that very reason, as are most other long-recognized bastions of American journalism that presume to speak the truth about Donald Trump, those who empower him, and about the endless lies they they tell.

The family that owns The New York Times were slaveholders

Your point being what? So were many of the Founding Fathers. So were some of the nation’s prominent religious leaders. Slavery was a legal American institution. A bloody Civil War that nearly destroyed the nation was necessary to purge ourselves of that evil. The consequences of racism and slavery still haunt us more than a century-and-a-half later. What matters now is what we are today, not what the generations that preceded us were. Our present day responsibility has to do with our own thoughts, words, and deeds.

From Southern Baptist Seminary Confronts History Of Slaveholding And ‘Deep Racism’:

The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, came into being in 1845 as the church of Southern slaveholders.

If you’re going to condemn the Times today for what happened generations ago, you might as well do the same with Southern Baptists.

Of course, the right will immediately write NPR off as another disreputable source, as they do any credible source that speaks truths they don’t want to believe or hear. That’s a reflection on their own distorted views and values.

@Deplorable Me, #20:

They aren’t unidentified.

Now they’ve been identified. When they were caught on video unlawfully grabbing people off the street they weren’t.

These aren’t just little kids walking around and getting arrested by mean old GESTAPO agents; they are violent thugs used to getting away with doing whatever they feel like.

How do you know who all the individuals who were “arrested” are? The only reason you swallow such claims is because Trump and his flunkies are branding all protests as riots, and attributing every violent and unlawful act committed during the protests equally to everyone in the crowd. They’re labeling them collectively as anarchists and terrorists to promote fear and anger that can be politically exploited. This is no better and no more honest than proclaiming every policeman evil because there’s a small percentage of incompetents and bullying thugs somehow wearing the uniform.

I see AJ/Ward is as comically ignorant as he has always been. Federal buildings are Federal property and the President has all the right in the nation to defend the destruction of federal property.

Trump, and the DOJ, needs to declare Antifa a terrorist organization.

https://www.facebook.com/realAndyNgo/?__tn__=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARCoUuHBUkjNTsBl8eyJNQSRrcZH5E7tXC52PkV0-_Z5PcW9yrXL4wZK5TqEpNv5Yj0d54fHl8wyukb5

@retire05, #33:

Trump needs to be declared a national menace and removed from public office. Hopefully the sensible majority of American voters will prevail in November, and he will be.

When recently asked directly, Trump would not say whether he will accept the November election result. If you can’t see that as a danger flag, you’re part of the danger. He’s essentially saying he can’t guarantee that he’ll abide by the dictates of the U.S. Constitution and leave office if voted out.

This is right up there with McConnell openly admitting before the Senate impeachment trial that his oath regarding a fair and impartial trial was irrelevant, and that the outcome was already determined. Such astonishing statements are made, and hardly any self-described republican “patriots” even blink.

Sunday, July 19, 2020 – Trump refuses to commit to accepting election result as Biden enjoys poll lead

Comrade Greggie-Poo looooooves him some liberal left wing British press; except when it doesn’t agree with him and then he ignores it.

@retire05:

Comrade Greggie-Poo…

Your thumb is showing through a hole in one of your sock puppets again.

@Greg:

Nope, you’re still not too cute by half.

But YOU are the sock puppet who has been residing here for far too long and the only thing you know how to do is project.

FOX News, Sunday, July 19, 2020 – Trump pushes back against critics on coronavirus, addresses whether he will accept election results in exclusive interview

President Trump, in an exclusive interview with Fox News, challenged his critics on his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, threatened a veto for the defense bill, and speculated on whether he will accept the results if his Democratic challenger wins the presidency in November…

@Greg:

The New York Times is one of the nation’s most reputable sources of accurate and credible information.

NYT is a left wing propaganda cesspool. A sewer of lies.

Now they’ve been identified. When they were caught on video unlawfully grabbing people off the street they weren’t.

Oh, you think they went back in time and identified themselves? They were ALWAYS identified. Just more whiny, crybaby, liberal lies.

How do you know who all the individuals who were “arrested” are?

How do YOU know? They were were all dressed in ANTIFA garb running with ANTIFA thugs in the midst of ANTIFA riots.

They’re labeling them collectively as anarchists and terrorists to promote fear and anger that can be politically exploited.

Oh… you mean labeling an entire group as bad because of the actions of one or two is bad? Like you, the Democrats, ANTIFA, BLM all do with COPS? To promote fear and hatred of ALL cops? And then go out and ASSASSINATE them? Goddamn, you are a hypocrite.

Trump needs to be declared a national menace and removed from public office.

Yeah, you tried that but rumor just wasn’t enough to get it done.

NYT is a left wing propaganda cesspool. A sewer of lies.

As opposed to Hot Air, PJ Media, The Daily Caller, FOX News, etc? That’s hilarious.

How do YOU know?

I don’t. And that’s the point, isn’t it? When there are legitimate arrests, they aren’t made by people wearing paramilitary gear without identifying badges, who haul people off to undisclosed locations in unmarked rented cars without stating charges or reading them their rights. That’s more reminiscent of an extrajudicial kidnapping than an arrest.

Want to increase hostility to the police? Do more of that. That leaves unanswered the question of whether it’s intentional provocation or abject stupidity. In the case of the Trump administration, it’s a coin flip. I half suspect it’s Trump’s need for a distraction and a means to fire up his crowd. It’s Trump or anarchy, you know. The Acting Director of DHS has said as much.

@Ronald J. Ward: #30I quoted text of the constitution is it beyond your comprehension, yes yes it is.
@Greg: Chucking the rioters in a van then I assume they are read their rights, you dont allow the mob to gather and attack while making an arrest. The rioters know what they did, lighting dumpsters on fire vandalizing police cars, arson of buildings do you think this isnt all being caught by drones? Tracking the perps by tracking their cell phones, why do you think some carry umbrellas? These are not the local yokels of Portland these are federal law enforcement agents with all the toys they use to bust big bad cartel members.

@Greg: Hey Stoopid

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Dude like your endorsement for the Russian agent run Lincoln Project, you just prove you can never be trusted to tell the truth or ever check anything out.
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greg the imbecile says;

The New York Times is one of the nation’s most reputable sources of accurate and credible information

If you’re going to condemn the Times today for what happened generations ago, you might as well do the same with Southern Baptists.

Is that not the position of the Marxist leftists? Is the NY slimes, who built their news empire on the backs of African slaves, to be excused for their past behavior?

The NY slimes not only ignored the mass genocide in Ukraine by being a sock puppet for Stalin, they also for al intent and purpose ignored the Holocaust thus supporting Adolf Hitler.

Walter Duranty was the NY Times Moscow Bureau Chief from 1922-1936, soon after the Bolshevik overthrow of the Russian government. Duranty was an apologist for communism. Many in the American intelligentsia were also sympathetic to communism and appreciated Duranty’s dispatches. It was after Joseph Stalin’s first five-year plan, 1928-1933, in which Stalin attempted to restructure the Soviet economy, that Duranty became prominent based on exclusive interviews that Stalin granted him. The dictator’s policies led to widespread famine, particularly in the Ukraine, where estimates of up to 10 million people perished between 1932-1933, thought by many to be a deliberate genocide. Duranty received the Pulitzer Prize in 1932 for a series of reports from the Soviet Union in which he defended Stalin and denied that there was widespread famine. Contemporaneous observers reported that Duranty knew of the starvation and knowingly misrepresented the evidence.

The Times is also notorious for covering up the Holocaust, the Nazi effort to exterminate the Jews during World War II. It did so by burying stories about the Nazi genocide against the Jews in the back pages of the paper, avoiding the front page except on rare occasions. The Times often avoided mentioning that the victims of the Nazi persecutions, deportations, and death camps were Jews. If you had read the front page of the NY Times during the period of the Holocaust (1939 -1945), you would have missed the fact that the Nazis were rounding up, imprisoning, torturing, starving, executing, gassing, and otherwise exterminating on an industrial scale millions of innocent Jews

In the face of the ideological groupthink of the press, our own Soviet media, it seems reasonable to ground it in historical events that arguably define the onset of its debasement. If the Times can casually change the birth of the U.S. from 1776 to 1619 and redefine our founding principles, as it did in its 1619 Project, then surely we can recommend reasonable start dates for the perversion of our media. And what better and more consequential press outrages than the gloss-over by the NY Times of two of the 20th century’s greatest genocides?

The media is no longer content to simply fulfill its obligation to the First Amendment and report the news objectively, share ideas, challenge dogmas, enlighten the public, promote American principles, and provide critical oversight of the government. Instead, it has descended into an openly leftist propaganda coalition intent on promoting a Marxist view of reality indistinguishable from that of the Democratic Party. This collapse into summary leftism in support of one political party and dogma has reached its acme in the age of Trump where even the pretense of impartiality has been discarded.

The “1932 and 1939 Project” targets two critical moments when the NY Times, the dominant media voice of the radical left, failed to expose and marshal attention toward a critical matter. It chose instead to conceal and bury two catastrophic annihilations, deliberately collaborating in the deaths of millions of innocent victims.

@Greg:

As opposed to Hot Air, PJ Media, The Daily Caller, FOX News, etc? That’s hilarious.

Yes, as opposed to sources that are not in the pocket of the Democrats and Soros. Exactly. You’re finally getting it.

Want to increase hostility to the police?

BULLSHIT! All you and the left care about is continuing the Democrat policy of allowing fascist political violence against authority. When the Democrat government won’t act to protect federal property or the public, EXPECT a President that actually cares about the Constitution, justice and law and order to step in and do their job for them… because they are obviously incompetent.

These spoiled little mommy’s boys, useful idiots all, will not stop their rioting and looting until they are FORCED to stop. It doesn’t take much to stop them; mostly just appear and ANTIFA runs away.

The officers were identified with everything but their names.

Had Trump not sent in persons to save the federal buildings , they would screech his abandonment of Portland citizens, the old heads I win tails you lose as always.

@kitt: In Democrat cities, Trump is the only leader they have.

@Deplorable Me: Joe Biden is formally being listed as a criminal suspect by high level Ukraine government officials, in a major case involving his son – Hunter.

Off topic but interesting.
The federal Judge that just had her son killed and hubby shot by a guy posing as a fed ex delivery man is Salas, the judge presiding over the class-action lawsuit against Deutsche Bank (Karimi v. Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft et al.), which alleges that Deutsche Bank had poor financial reporting practices and made misleading statements to securities investors, resulting from Deutsche Bank’s desire to obscure its anti-money laundering deficiencies and its poor monitoring of high-risk customers such as Jeffrey Epstein, Danske Bank in Estonia, and FBME Bank
Fun Monday facts.

This is a calculated escalation:

July 20, 2020 – Federal officers again tear-gas protesters in Portland, Oregon

And this is likely the beginning of a setup for even more:

July 20, 2020 – Homeland Security making plans to deploy some 150 agents in Chicago this week, with scope of duty unknown

Trump is making a dangerous situation far more dangerous. He has surrounded himself with sycophants who aren’t going to tell him that. The results could be disastrous.