“It’s Only Sex!” Isn’t the Looming Trump Indictment Reminiscent of Bill Clinton’s Monicagate Scandal?

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by Erik

As the consensus — even among Trump critics — seems to be that the looming indictment against Donald Trump is “nonsense” and a “blatantly partisan exercise of raw power”, I am reminded that anytime I see any kind of debate online about Donald Trump’s time in office, there will always be some leftist spewing out that the proof that POTUS45 is a conman/a criminal/a traitor/a disaster is that he is the only president to be impeached twice. (Or is it three times? I can’t remember anymore.)
 
Isn’t this proof, rather, that, in its desire to create a one-party state, the Democratic Party is turning the country into a banana republic?
 
As it happens, the Democrat Party’s incessant attempts to demonize and bring down Donald Trump, along with the entire GOP, for over half a decade remind me of the Ministry of Truth’s Two Minutes’ Hate program against Emmanuel Goldstein, Big Brother’s “enemy of the people” in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.
 
It continues to amaze me that mainstream media outlets like CNN can “report” (sic) on “Hush money, Mar-a-Lago docs, 2020 election aftermath: Notable investigations, lawsuits and controversies continue to surround the former president” — without giving notice to what Joe Biden has been involved in, both before and after becoming president (sniff sniff, anyone?).
 
In that perspective, Wikipedia reveals that in the George Orwell novel, the economy department, aka the Ministry of Plenty, is in fact “responsible for maintaining a state of perpetual poverty, scarcity and financial shortages” (thanks to Ed Driscoll for the Instalink).
 
One thing that surprises me about the indictment in which Stormy Daniels is the central element is that so far nobody, either on the right or on the left, seems to have made what seems to me to be the correct comparison: it is reminiscent of the Bill Clinton scandal known as Monicagate and the impeachment trial of 1998-1999.
 
Back then, the Clinton defenders then held (hardly wrongly) that the affair with Monica Lewinsky (or with anybody else) should remain private and not be used in politics — “It’s only sex!” (with which I agreed, by the way — although I also now recognize that my viewpoint back then was almost entirely formed by the left-leaning mainstream media).
 
Doesn’t this prove that the Democrats, and their MSM allies, will say whatever, depending on who is in office? Their guy or the other guy?
 
1998: Sex is a private matter and it should be nobody’s business who the President (Bill Clinton) fools around with.
 
2023: The President or former President (Donald Trump), who we were delighted to break a story about making a comment about grabbing women by the pussy, had the audacity to cheat on his wife, and he needs to be punished.
 
2016: In the meantime, we had 2016: not only were there not a single scandal, not one (sic), during the president’s (during Barack Obama’s) tenure, but the President was an upright family man.
 
2020: The President or future President {Joe Biden) touches children and holds them close to him while sniffing their hair, and this is not anything that we think is worthy to write a news story about.
 
They jump from one argument to the other, to the very opposite, 180º, depending on what party the commander-in-chief belongs to.

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Not the same Slick Willie did it in the oval office with his wife in the house. Trump was not Stormys boss. Monica never got a dime, that was a different gal, one of very many while he was in office either Governor or Prez. There was witness intimidation involved.

Speaking of the clintons

New Yorker Sh*ts in Theater Aisle Near Hillary and Chelsea Clinton at Broadway Show

Seems appropriate

Not our way, that person belongs in an asylum, along with sexually confused and those still voting Democrat and RINO.
The DA
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Hillary and Chelsea Clinton were surprised to find a turd in the aisle by their seats during intermission at the Shubert Theater in New York City last week.

That was nothing compared to the turd in the seat. Didn’t they notice the smell? Oh, that’s right… they were sitting near Hillary.

Well, it’s also not the same in that Stormy says there was no affair. Now, either you give her credibility and there is no case or you deny her credibility and, well, you have no case.

It’s only fascism. It’s only totalitarianism. It’s only Democrats.

03/21/23 – Manhattan DA issues scathing response to GOP letter on possible Trump indictment: ‘We will not be intimidated’

…House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, and the other top Republicans on the Administration and Oversight committees on Monday sent a letter to Bragg to demand that he turn over documents related to his Trump investigation and testify before Congress after reports said that Trump could face an indictment this week…

Direct congressional interference in the judicial process. WTF are they thinking?

These are the same people who previously protected Trump from the constitutional remedy of impeachment and removal. Now they’re essentially asserting he should also be immune from indictment and trial. That’s how deep into the barrel the rot has spread.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

No intimidation. Two things:

  1. The precedence has been set for Obama and Clinton, so this can’t be prosecuted (they did the same thing).
  2. The statute of limitations has long since past.

To arrest Trump on this would be to announce that the Federal Government is tyrannical, and citizens have no obligation to obey them or even tolerate them.

They were going to make a move one way or another, so we’ll see. The Normal American Majority (Trump voters) need do nothing except watch this tyranny fall under it’s own weight.

There is no precedent in the United States for direct congressional interference with a pending court case. There is no precedent for a US political figure and his attorneys calling out supporters to interfere with the judicial process.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

What are you talking about, no one is interfering with the case it continues.
Were the protestors in front of the Supreme Court Justices homes after it was leaked they would overturn Roe interfering? It was illegal but the police only arrested 1 person.
Sen. Kamala Harris (D.-Calif.), appearing on “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert” said that it was “critically important” for protests to continue in America. This for a druggie that OD and died.

Last edited 1 year ago by kitt

There also is no precedent for the DOJ and a state DA working together to prosecute the front-running candidate for President of the opposition party. There is no precedent for the endless persecution of a sitting President simply because he cannot be bought or controlled by the political establishment. There was no precedent for the federal government spying on an opposition campaign, until Obama did it. There was no precedent for impeachment on completely political grounds until the Democrats did it. There was no precedent for an election turned over on fraud until idiot Biden did it. There was no precedent for the FBI to pressure media to suppress a story about a corrupt candidate until the FBI did it for idiot Biden.

We seem to be living in an age of new precedents, most of them bad and most of them set by Democrats.

greg, you know you’re a traitor, right? Not hyperbole, but a real one…like Confederate, Stalin, Nazi Party level one…

You understand that, yes?

Greg gets lose from his straight jacket once in a while.

No need for him to be intimidated if this is upgraded to a felony by some non statute, then there could be an issue and a law passed. so this is simply an inquiry.
Whats this illegal leak of sealed information to the press? tsk tsk tsk.
They now have grounds for an entire dismissal of the whole thing.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/sources-special-counsel-claims-trump-deliberately-misled-attorneys/story?id=98024191
a former top federal judge wrote Friday in a sealed filing, according to sources who described its contents to ABC News.
Sources need to be jailed hence forth.

Last edited 1 year ago by kitt

No, the reason Trump wasn’t impeached and removed was because he committed NO impeachable offenses. The fact that they want to know if the idiot Biden regime DOJ is coordinating with the punk Bragg to take out the leading political opponent is totally reasonable, given the corrupt state of the idiot Biden regime. Seeing as prosecutors, both state and federal, wrote this case off as a big bag of nothing until Bragg decided NOW was the time to prosecute has political hit job written all over it and NOTHING is too low for this corrupt regime to undertake.

Yeah, he should testify before the House Judiciary Committee and be held to strict perjury rules, not allowed to lie with impunity as most leftists do. We’ve seen Democrats trample the law and Constitution as they weaponize the DOJ, destroying our country. Democrats want to kill the rule of law.

Nothing to see here, right, Greg? Pursuing Trump on a NDA is far more important than worrying about the corruption of the REAL criminal in the White House, idiot Biden.

New BOMBSHELL Uncovered, Joe Biden Signed Off on Letter Regarding Hunter’s Profiteering in Ukraine with Burisma

Last edited 1 year ago by Just Plain Bill

It’s a payoff to conceal an adulterous affair with a porn star, the exposure of which could have prevented Trumps election, and the falsification of business records to conceal an illegal diversion of funds. For Trump, it’s business as usual.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

Nope a standard NDA, both parties have denied intercourse. Everyone already knew Trumps playboy nature. Now Bidens showering habits and his sons unnatural affections with his niece…thats different.
The whore came back to the well once too often.

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So what was it Trump paid her $130,000 not to disclose? Substandard measurements? Dysfunctionality? Maybe he just likes giving away money…

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

So what was it Trump paid her $130,000 not to disclose?

Who knows? Who CARES? It was his personal life and his money.

Hillary, however, used campaign funds to pay for a dossier of political lies, falsified the records and then lied about paying for it. Is that something she should go to jail for? If not, why not? If not, why should Trump for this? Why are you not outraged about Hillary’s crimes and lies? Why do you gladly accept any and all Democrat corruption?

Yes sometimes he does like to give money away.

200 Stranded Marines Needed a Ride Home; Here’s What Trump Did…

He donated his Presidential Salary

It looks like Nazi Germany. All you need to do is change the flags and uniforms.

OK, Comrade Greggie; cite the very statute you claim Trump violated.

Or show what a dimwitted coward you really are and not answer that.

Not likely. The Left’s desperation in trying to frame Trump’s affairs as their own is getting pathetic.

  1. Two things:The precedence has been set for Obama and Clinton, so this can’t be prosecuted (they did the same thing).
  2. The statute of limitations has long since past.

To arrest Trump on this would be to announce that the Federal Government is tyrannical, and citizens have no obligation to obey them or even tolerate them.
They were going to make a move one way or another, so we’ll see. The Normal American Majority (Trump voters) need do nothing except watch this tyranny fall under it’s own weight.

It’s a payoff to conceal an adulterous affair with a porn star

So, you are saying Stormy is a liar?

Alvin Bragg ran for district attorney on the promise that he would indict Trump. He has spent years trying to find a way to pin several various crimes on him, and he’s landed on the so-called “hush money” payment to Stormy Daniels—a payment the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) has already said isn’t even a campaign finance violation.

Get a clue.

The Legally and Morally Flawed Case Against Trump

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What sex?

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“It does not break our country to bring serious charges against public officials.” It isn’t that unusual, and it has never just been republican, as Maddow points out. Remember John Edwards?

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

Remember the actual, current, timely evidence against Edwards? Trump has done nothing illegal. NOTHING. Not only that, but the statute of limitations on what is in question expired long ago. IN ADDITION TO THAT, several prosecutors and investigators, including fat-ass Bragg himself, have looked at the details and decided there is no crime there. This is nothing but desperate, frightened, incompetent Democrats struggling to find a way to answer Trump’s resounding success as a leader. The only plays they have come out of the Nazi/Soviet playbook.

Citing Maddow only emphasizes how desperately wrong you are.

You watch these clowns trying desperately to re-installed themselves as authorities and experts.

They are traitors. And that’s it.

In America, our judicial system determines whether or not an indicted person has done anything illegal.

What has happened to “the party of law and order?”

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

BREAKING: Soros-Funded DA Alvin Bragg CAUGHT HIDING Nearly 600 Pages of Exculpatory Evidence from NY Grand Jury in Trump Case (VIDEO)

Violation of the Brady Law?

You are such a penis

Last edited 1 year ago by TrumpWon

Yeah, this is that “justice system” Greg is referring to. Sure, this is all on the up and up, the ONLY reason Trump is under investigation is because Orange Man Bad. Yeah, right. If you believe that, I have an election to sell you.

Trump is not above the law.

Neither is Beijing biden
The difference is President Trump has broken no laws.

The same cannot be said for Beijing biden.

Xi and Putin both HATE Biden.

The same cannot be said for Beijing biden.

Beijing biden is a gift to XI and Putin

Xi and Putin both HATE Biden.

Of course they do, but they use him. They have no respect for idiot Biden because idiot Biden is a moron, a fool, incompetent and a joke.

They hate Trump, too, but they respected Trump because Trump is a LEADER, something idiot Biden can never be.

Trump is not above the law.

No, he isn’t and if you find he has broken the law, he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent that Democrats are, which is let off Scott-free. But, though you hate to admit it, he has the same Constitutional rights as anyone else. He shouldn’t be targeted as a political enemy. He shouldn’t be persecuted for political purposes. He shouldn’t be investigated just to see if anything can be found.

You obviously believe Hillary is above the law. You believe Comey is above the law. You believe idiot Biden is above the law. You believe Pelosi is above the law. You believe BLM is above the law. You believe ANTIFA is above the law.

You lack the Constitutional outlook towards the law. You see the law as a political weapon and nothing more, not the protection of our rights. You look at things through the eyes of a fascist.

“The Walls Are Closing In” – MSNBC Panel of Cultists Salivate Over Potential Trump Indictment Today… Then the Grand Jury Session Gets Canceled (VIDEO)

“It’s Constant, Constant Bogus Investigations. They Ignore the Biden Family Being Clearly on the Chinese Payroll…These are Marxists.  They hate America.” – Attorney Mike Davis Unwinds the Current Bogus Investigations

In America, our judicial system determines whether or not an indicted person has done anything illegal.

No, that’s how it USED to work, before Obama. Now, politics determines who is investigated, politics determines who is accused, politics determines who is indicted and politics, not evidence, not law, not justice, determines who goes to jail.

That is what Democrats have done to our judicial system. The party of law and order was turned away through election fraud, another Democrat gift to the nation.

Imagine a country without democrats

Go to Putin’s Russia or Xi’s China and you can have your wish.

Nope

They are communists just like democrats.

Go to Putin’s Russia or Xi’s China and you can have your wish.

They rule just like these Democrats. The Democrats would be all that and more without some semblance of oversight we now have by the Republicans.

Actually, I don’t want to. I wouldn’t trust the Republicans with absolute power, either, though their rule would not be the totalitarian police state the Democrats desire. But we need a strong two-party system.

Imagine a country without leftist fascists.

This isn’t a serious charge, and it will break our country to invent crimes on a political rival and have them jailed.

Failing Wretched Madcow? no thanks she isnt a legal expert she is a diversity hire.
Does she have the statute, the law that was broken?
Is this in her rambling?
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