It took just 4 months after the deplorably failed Mueller probe of alleged Trump links to Russia, for the Democrats to raise the next -faded- red flag, Ukraine. And they do so in a manner that reminds me, personally, a lot of what happens in the UK. That is, the process has now moved on to what is legal or not and who decides what is or not.
Nancy Pelosi apparently has been told by her legal advice that it’s okay for her to move ahead with an inquiry, that she can even label an Impeachment Inquiry, without following established Capitol Hill procedure. Needless to say, them slopes are mighty slippery. Because if true, it would mean she can call the ‘other side’ offside for as long as she wishes.
She would, in effect, prorogate the US House the same way Boris Johnson tried to do Parliament in Britain. And not by shutting it down from the outside (Boris as PM) but from the inside (using her powers as Speaker). It would appear it’s time for every American to pay attention, because this could have grave consequences far into the future.
Pelosi’s plan is to not have a House vote on initiating the inquiry, but to just go ahead and have one, and stealing the name Impeachment Inquiry for it. Why? Because she thinks that way she can have only Democrats ask questions, issue subpoenas etc., while House Republicans could only sit and watch the spectacle (not what they were elected for).
I am not a lawyer, let alone a constitutional scholar, but when I read these things there are a million red hot five-alarms going off in my head. Because this is not about enacting the law, it’s about circumventing it. Just because you have a House majority cannot mean you can simply ignore the minority, or procedure. That would turn democracy into a proxy dictatorship. You don’t want to go there, not even if you’re a desperate Democrat.
But she seems to have made up her mind. So now we face Trump not being allowed to investigate what Joe Biden was up to in the run-up to the 2016 election though his party could turn that same run-up into a 3-year Social Counsel probe, which turned up emptier then .. well, you fill it in. It is something to behold.
At the same time, though, there is no Impeachment Inquiry, even if Pelosi calls it that. The White House today will send a letter to a judge contesting exactly that. A House Impeachment Inquiry has a procedure, and if she doesn’t follow that, the White House will deny it’s actually happening.
Now, if you follow the headlines this week, you wouldn’t know this. because they all talk of impeachment. But you can’t get impeachment without following the official procedure, and Pelosi doesn’t follow it. The media just go along for the ride without caring about procedure.
And obviously you can’t watch this theater and not think that Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff et al have not thought about stretching out this whole tragedy for another year, right on the eve of the 2020 election, or even beyond. That they think allegations about Russia, Ukraine and China will help them win.
Because it’s clear that flouting procedure the way they try to do in the House will inevitable have to lead to court decisions, and eventually to the Supreme Court. They’re counting on the damage they can do to Trump while the courts decide. But it won’t just be damage to Trump, however it turns out, it will be damage to the entire country.
And you would think both sides of the aisle recognize that, if we do, but there are very few if any signs of that. Everyone’s gearing up for a very big fight because everyone else in their echo chamber is. The problem is, whatever happens, and whoever becomes president, the dividing lines will only become deeper and darker.
AG Bill Barr, along with the State Department and DOJ, and whoever else is involved, will release multiple reports from investigations conducted by US Attorney John Durham, DOJ IG Michael Horowitz and potentially others. The Dems and MSM viewpoint appears to be that is was fine to appoint a Special Counsel to investigate Trump’s links to Russia, but not Democrats’ links to, well, anyone at all.
A point so obvious as to be trees blocking the view of the forest is this: Trump is a Presidential candidate. Democrats think it is improper to investigate a candidate because… they are candidates and that would be political. So, why is it OK to investigate candidate Trump?
What we’re really seeing is a little informal Congressional group, like the Congressional Black Caucus, for example.
It is taking up official Congressional time, however.
It is getting coverage and throwing tantrums.
But it is NOT an Impeachment Inquiry.
The White House is correct to ignore it.
Watch to see if these babies have the nerve to demand the SCOTUS gives them attention.
I doubt it.
Not unless they are (collectively) that ignorant of what Congress does when it works.
@Nan G: Its called “theater”.
Take the Vote Nancy, get every house member on record hurry before we choose where our political donations are given. Who needs to have competition in a primary race in our districts. We need to see where our reps stand. Psycho bitch, do it!
@kitt: There aren’t enough from districts that don’t care how many lies their representation tells.
@Deplorable Me, #1:
The scandal isn’t about investigating. The scandal is about withholding military aid granted by congress pursuant to our nation’s foreign policy in order to coerce a foreign government into providing something politically useful to oneself.
That’s what Trump was setting up. He was making military aid to Ukraine contingent upon Ukraine granting him a big political favor. Those involved knew what was going on, and some of them didn’t like it. If the telephone transcript didn’t make that clear enough, the text messages between several closely involved parties certainly did.
No amount of Trumpian gaslighting is going to make the motives behind the telephone call acceptable, unless one was delusional to begin with.
@Greg: Where in the transcript is aid mentioned?
Where Joe makes demands of an internal Ukraine corruption investigator be canned or no billon bucks. tsk tsk tsk
It really sounded like Trump wanted info on 2016 not dirt for 2020. Just following Joe around gives you the impression that he thinks he is above the law, Son of a B a get out of jail free for him and his crackhead kid even before he decided he didnt get enough tax payer kick backs funneled to his spawn and tossed his hat in the ring.
Oh but the guy joe got canned wasnt aggressive enough? Lets finish that investigation …right?
But the speaker of the house has a kid that also works for a Ukraine company lets probe that little set up.
October 4, 2019 – CIA’s top lawyer made ‘criminal referral’ on whistleblower’s complaint about Trump conduct
Which the DoJ apparently ignored.
Which is why it is idiculous because that never happened. At least not by Trump. Biden, on the other hand.
The funding had ALREADY been approved prior to the call. But, don’t take my word for it; that’s the Ukrainian President’s version, too.
One day you will have to face the fact that your entire argument is based on lie. Of course, you can’t even face that with emails and collusion…
@Greg: #8 the lawyer should be fired for not properly researching gossip and hearsay. Just like the dossier same old same old song and dance. Perhaps news propaganda and gossip isnt interesting to the DOJ.
Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.
Yup the CIA needs a new top lawyer.
Do they subscribe to grocery store rags?
I can’t help but look when I’m at the checkout stand.
Last trip I saw one that cannot be true:
https://www.magzter.com/articles/3409/374057/5d8c6e6bc30bb was one of them.
Others said he was 117 pounds.
@Nan G: More important, Dollys boobs are killing her!
Michelle storms out! (on Val or Barry?)
Valerie Jarrett tells of sipping martinis and gossiping, spending more time on AF1 than Michelle ever did. Wonder if the “Night Stalker” ever got her own home.
@kitt: If they would refer to the tabloids they’d have more credibility.
Which has of course, already been debunked and is no longer relevant. The point is “theater”, pressing a lie through until enough people think it’s the truth.
We’ll fight you, Greg, and your party. Stop now while you still can.
This has gone beyond silly and petty politics and is now looking like outright treason.
@Nathan Blue: https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-trump-activates-u-s-marine-reserves-for-emergency-within-the-united-states-to-stop-illegal-coup/