Two weeks ago I published an open letter here to a long-time, long-distance friend after I learned she had voted for Donald Trump. I stated that I realized I never really knew her, that I couldn’t fall back on the thought that she lived in the Rust Belt and experienced “economic anxiety” (she doesn’t, and surely isn’t) and that I’m just being honest when I say we can no longer be friends.
There was a lot of response on social media and elsewhere, most of it positive, much of it from people in far more difficult situations ― people who opposed Trump and were struggling with relationships they’ve had with parents, siblings, children or closer friends who voted for Trump. Many expressed how the letter articulated thoughts similar to their own, no matter how differently (or similarly) they may navigate this in their own lives.
Then there were the Trump supporters who criticized the piece. They almost universally claimed they couldn’t believe anyone was breaking off a friendship over “politics.” This, to me, was both ludicrous and disingenuous ― if very telling ― particularly since I’d addressed it right there in the open letter:
Some have said in the days since the election that they can’t believe people are ending friendships and family relationships over “politics.” They’d say that I’m being silly, petty, or overacting. But this election was and continues to be about so much more than “politics.” This is about values and respect. It’s about bigotry and hate. It’s about millions of people’s rights being threatened, including my rights as a gay man and yours as a woman. It’s about putting our entire democracy in danger of transforming into an autocracy, and legitimizing and making alliances with our worst adversaries, whose goal is to dominate us.
Many of these Trump supporters ― a lot of them traditional Republicans who went “home,” as political pundits nauseatingly put it ― are defensive about the fact that they voted for the unstable racist, misogynist and self-proclaimed sexual assaulter, and they’re fearful of admitting to themselves and certainly others that they tolerated hate and bigotry. They can’t face that they’re in bed with what appears to be a large swath of other Trump supporters who actually revel in their own racism, pushing white supremacist hate and feeling emboldened by what they view as Trump’s embrace: making Steve Bannon his chief White House strategist. So, they conjure up all kinds of rationalizations or whirl around in a sort of denial.
These are the Trump supporters that went bonkers over my open letter to my friend.
On several websites and on social media they portrayed me as the “intolerant” liberal. Of course, I’m proudly intolerant of bigotry -– but that’s not what they meant. One writer claimed I went on an “unfriending spree,” which was a complete lie, as I mentioned no other friends in my open letter. I’m happy to report, in fact, that this was the only friend of mine who voted for Trump, including among Republican and conservative friends.
Twice in two weeks, the producers of a well-known conservative TV host have invited me on-air to talk with him about the letter (take my word for it when I say his take on it is quite predictable), and I’ve received invitations from some other interviewers as well. I’ve declined all of them.
On Twitter, some Trump supporters have tried to shame me by criticizing me for not debating the issue with this or that interviewer. But there is actually nothing to debate or discuss, as the letter speaks for itself. These kinds of interviews are solely for the purpose of assuaging the interviewers’ (and followers’) guilt, or justifying their rationalizations or self-righteousness ― in this case for putting a madman in the White House, knowing that even some of their own conservative and Republican friends refused to vote for him.
One critic who described my letter as breaking off a friendship over “politics” ―despite my clearly having stated that wasn’t the case ― is a little-known pundit who is gay and who opined that Trump isn’t interested in taking away gay marriage no matter what he’s said. Now, I’ve pointed out how Mike Pence is running the transition and is already getting the anti-LGBTQ agenda set regarding domestic policy, and that Trump’s cabinet picks who will run the government departments are a who’s who of homophobia.
But even if that weren’t true, why would you give a chance (as this critic put it) to someone who pandered to those who hate you?
The rest at HuffPo
@Richard Wheeler:
3 hours before the Senate committee and wow, did we learn a lot. Ok Richie, tell us just one, only one, ‘Proof’ that it was Russia. Just one. I didn’t hear one single thing in the whole 3 hours that ‘prove’ the Russians were even involved, much less ’caused’ it. How pathetic. clearly they are the tools (that’s with a t, not an f) of Obozo. and he had them looking like ‘little obozos’.
Or did you hear something I didn’t?
@RedTeam: Didn’t catch any of it but it’s really too bad you feel that way.
You and The Donald are gonna be on a limb.Pretty much by yourselves and a few other deniers.
@Richard Wheeler: I figured all the Dims would miss it so they wouldn’t have to answer the question. Why didn’t they present one single piece of evidence that the Russians were involved in any way?
I’m gonna go out on a limb and state that “if they had any evidence at all, it would have been headlined.”. Interesting to watch all those guys having to be so evasive so as to ‘not show Obozo up as a moron’.
Three top heads of three top security agencies and not one single sentence proving any Russian involvement. Pathetic. Yeah, I’m sure you missed it all. All the Dims missed all of it. It wasn’t there.
@Richard Wheeler:
too bad? How do you feel knowing you are being played for a fool? Three heads of agencies, 3 hours of testimony, not one sentence being quoted by ANY news organization as the ‘smoking gun’ ? and you don’t find that ‘just a little strange’? Even Drudge hasn’t mentioned it. Hell, I guess if it hadn’t been televised on Fox for 3 hours, we wouldn’t even know about it.
For years our government systems have been being hacked, YEARS, so under the Obama administration what has been done to secure the systems, what steps by this frigging genius Harvard Lawyer? Inept, lazy, careless beyond comprehension! So the same no information dufusites that briefed the congress today are going to brief Trump tomorrow. Should give Assange a pardon then put him in charge of cyber security. Did they even show the “fake” or planted news stories hat came directly from the Russians? Multiprong gobbledy gook lies.
98 % chance Hillary will win the election, 98 % of scientists believe in climate change yada yada yaaadaaa
@kitt: The funniest part of all of their testimony was “oh, we have to protect our sources and methods so we can’t be specific’ then they follow it with oh, we have clear and convincing evidence of what they did and how they did it’ Now if you were in Russian intelligence and if you knew that they had interfered and how the US knew it without doubt. then wouldn’t they already know all the same things, so just who the hell are they trying to keep in the dark? If you sent me a message saying that you had all my banking information but you couldn’t tell me how you got it, don’t you think ‘anyone’ would be smart enough to know how they had that info? Is it ‘protecting’ a source or method to say you can’t say? So when someone tells you something like that, it’s because they ‘do not’ have that info, they just want you to think they have it.
Does anyone not know that Obama uses a dead man’s social security number? Does anyone not know how that came to be public information? Does anyone deny that is a crime?
@Richard Wheeler:
How about in the real world? He is not as conservative as he should be, but he is obviously conservative. His economic, foreign policy, immigration and much of his social agenda is conservative. Though I am interested in the financial dealings of candidates, as long as the liberals will accept corruption as long as it is LIBERAL corruption and the media is, obviously, liberal, no Republican should expose themselves to such attacks. Besides, as Reid did, you will simply make up your own “facts” as they suit your agenda.
@RedTeam: They need to learn about Cyber security. Just about every department has been hacked for goodness sakes LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES! Oh talking Dems here where can we not learn blame it on Reps not chucking enough money to them, to give to cronies and still not accomplish a thing.
@Richard Wheeler:
Obama has manipulated intelligence to fit his narrative. He manipulated intelligence estimates to show al Qaeda withering, ISIS JV and terror threats non-existent. While there are thousands of dedicated and able intelligence officers and operatives risking their lives collected and analyzing the data, Obama takes what suits him, discards what doesn’t, coats it all with his lies and disgraces their service. Now, we can’t trust what Obama says the intelligence community tells him and we can’t trust the leaders of the intelligence agencies.
You call that stupid. I call your attitude profoundly ignorant, naive, blind and, yes, stupid. Willfully stupid.
See, Obama has been a monumental failure on every front. He is such an ideologue and so conceited and arrogant that he has to lie constantly to try (not so hard to fool dimwits as yourself, not hard enough to fool the observant like myself). He has politicized all of the intelligence community and Justice Department, as any dictator would, to aid in his masquerade. But, covering up his failures is too large a task and it is not covered up well enough.
But his legacy will be that faith and confidence in these organizations will have to be repaired and restored.
Only the stupid cannot see this.
Re Assange “He’s a sycophant for Russia. He lies steals and compromises National Security.” That’s not a Dem who said that.
Trumpists Bill and RT and Trumpette Kitt—Stop Digging.
@Richard Wheeler:
LoL, Obozo has piled it so high and deep we have not had to start digging yet.
How you feel about Obozo turning all the terrorists loose in his last two weeks after keeping them locked up for his entire 8 years. You think that he is convinced they have reformed and won’t cause any further trouble. He might think that, that’s called stupidity. He wants to turn them all loose so they will cause problems on Trump’s watch. As we’ve said all along, Obozo is stupid and an ego maniac that bows to the muslim kings.
And you don’t see that?
“and Trumpette Kitt—Stop Digging.”
Name calling, trying to shame, it doesnt work anymore, try another angle, that one is old and used its, lol, deplorable if you get my drift.
Come with proof, an intelligent argument
The DNC server was never looked at by the FBI or CIA, unless they hacked it themselves it was not handed over by the DNC, the DNC had an “independent IT company make a determination.
Sorry thats not good enough proof, the way they behave its less than nothing. Hey maybe it was the IT company that Hillary hired for her private servers.
No doubt there are very patriotic operatives in the intelligence departments. But those that give Barry information have been conditioned to alter what he gets to only be what he wants to see.
I would love to believe, I would but this stinks.
Kitt and RT You two are the name callers here. You called yourself a Trumpette Kitt===I think RT got Obozo from Common Sense–Spewing Bile also available
You are not going to get top secret info about the Russian hack Trump will see it tomorrow==lets see what he says.
@Richard Wheeler: Really rich from your reply to me
@kitt: You’ve gone off the deep end–not to mention you’ve become a Trumpist.
I just corrected it, as I only identify as my birth gender.
@Richard Wheeler:
Hold on a minute there, Richie. Remember when I came back after being off for a couple of months and you asked that everyone stop name calling and I agreed. Now if your memory is as good as you claim it to be, the answer to that is ‘yes’. And I did absolutely no name calling until after you resumed it. I asked you if you had forgotten and you said something about that person deserved him being called a name. Don’t remember who it was. But once you resumed it, then the Obozo’s are fair game again. You are the ‘father’ of name calling here, Richie.
No he won’t, because there is none. Claptrapper as much as admitted it today when he uttered the total nonsense “it could only have been authorized by the Russians’. Total BS. They have no proof, no one will ever see something that does not exist. They are totally shilling for Obozo now.
My recollection is I got Obozo from Bozo the clown. Identical twins.
@RedTeam: This is a distraction and we are now because of a new Ministry of truth only allowed to see what the government allows. What happened to JFK when he wanted to dissolve the deep state CIA and scatter it to the winds?
Special Ops troops are being gathered at the Russian Border, why? WTF This is all over independent news, So we start WW3 over DNC emails? They are not a government entity, and testimony today clearly stated no votes were altered.
What are in those emails not yet released by Assange?
The industrial war complex must be really pissed.
projectcensored.org
Yes a bit conspiratorial but no more than Madcow wondering on air if Trump was going to put her in a concentration camp.
@RedTeam: You live in an Alternative Universe RT–That’s why we love you.
SOME TRUTHS BHO 2008 69 MILLION 53% 365 EC
BHO 2012 62.6 MILLION 51% 332 EC
DT 2016 61.2 MILLION 46% 306 EC
Any way you slice it
Kitt Hang in there After 4 years of this self centered Populist his ratings will be so low ACROSS THE BOARD you can get a Conservative in the W.H.
@Richard Wheeler: I’ve made this clear before, but being blind to anything that does not have the Soros Smear of Approval on it, you, like the idiot AJ, simply ignore it. I despise Assange. I despise Wikileaks. More than that, though, I despise the fact that such a despicable person and despicable organization does the job that our own media SHOULD be doing.
Now, though Assange is a worm, this does not mean he never tells the truth. So, just like anyone else, his words have to be weighed and evaluated. Meanwhile, Obama has a history of manipulating intelligence, putting servants in position to analyze the data, in order to get the predetermined results he desires and needs, and outright lying. So, that data has to be weighed and evaluated as well.
You should realize that for people that can SEE the reality around them and that hear the left wing media’s version of that same reality, it becomes increasingly difficult to accept and believe what has an ever increasing probability of being outright lies. You don’t have that problem, because you happily believe all the leftist propaganda, but I do not agree to descend into the self-imposed ignorance you and far too many others wallow in.
Now, you never answered my question (odd from someone that accused me of dodging questions) of what the actual affect on the election was? You said it cannot be determined… really? Why not? If the Russians “hacked” the election, as you leftists prefer to falsely put it, why can not a single effect of the hacking be exposed? Further, I would like an example of a “fake news” story which had to potential or actual result of changing votes. Where are these?
For people who poo-poo any attempts to protect the sanctity of the vote, you sure go apoplectic over an allegation of an attempt to affect an election. Perhaps it all depends on who is corroding the vote, huh? If illegal immigrants, beholden to their liberal benefactors, are skewing the results, there doesn’t appear to be any problem with that, for liberals. However, if you can create the same exact thing is being attempted, but in a more sophisticated manner, you suddenly become concerned. Once again liberals prove they have no principles. None. No integrity either.
@Richard Wheeler:
At least you didn’t try to deny what I said about the name calling.
You need to check your math. 306 = 57% 232 = 43% Last time I checked, that’s what determines who the president is. Did you learn something different? Where? Demand a tuition refund.
Now we could poll the German Shepherds at the local kennel and see who they vote for, but it won’t change the election results because they only use electoral votes to decide that.
I don’t understan d why all the libs have their panties in a wad about the popular vote. I’m sure they would all be thrilled if Hillary had gotten less than 50% of the popular vote but had gotten more than 50% of the electoral vote. Next time, have them concentrate on winning the prize instead having a popularity contest.
All this commotion about hacking is hilarious. The dnc hack (if there was one) revealed that the DNC was favoring Hillary over Bernie and all the DNC’ers lost their job. They want to blame the Russians for it. It also revealed that the Dimocrats were trying to steal the election, from Bernie. It revealed nothing about the Russians (unless we want to use that as a metaphor for the dimocrats)trying to influence the election of Trump over hillary.
Let’s face it. Hillary lost because she was Hillary, a very flawed candidate. Maybe even more flawed than Obozo. Unlike Obozo, she had at least ‘been around a politician’ before, so chalk that up as ‘some’ experience. And she is an American, unlike Obozo, who is an Indonesian at the moment.
@RedTeam: Sad–You don’t even know how to read my 117.
Looking forward to Trump’s response to Intel assessment that Putin ordered the Russian hack in order to help Trump.
BTW Why should I waste time denying your false accusations? You and I know the truth. Better things to do.
@Richard Wheeler:
So you want me to find the comments that you made when you were ‘name calling’ and publish them to prove that it was you that reverted to the practice after asking some to not do it? It might take a little time, but I can probably find it.
So you’re admitting I’m right?
The problem was that you didn’t know how to properly write a statement illustrating what you intended it to say.
Why do you want to deny that Trump won the presidency with a 57% majority of votes cast for electing a president. There may have been a different vote that didn’t select a president that he didn’t get a majority of, but the vote for president, he got 57% of. That was made official by the congress today.
are you saying that 306 EC was 46%?
I’m telling you, you have a real case for a full refund of your tuition.
comment No. 50 on Nov 27 9:08 PM on thread “Everyone breathe. There’s little chance the election was hacked”
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then here’s my comment No. 51
See it didn’t take all that long to look up. Good ammunition to use in your demand for a tuition refund.
You certainly can look at earlier comments on that thread where we had agreed to abstain from name calling. which we both did until you could restrain yourself no longer and came out with your ‘true self’ in Comment 50.
@RedTeam:My point was by any measure be it Electoral College or popular vote Obama’s 2008 and 2012 numbers were substantially better than Trump’s in 2016. I have never denied Trump’s 2016 win so why would you lie about that?
What do you think of Intel telling DT that Putin orchestrated HACK to facilitate a Trump victory? You think these professinals who’ve worked for Reagan and both Bush Sr and Jr would make it up?
You’ve never stopped name calling RT. It’s in your DNA—Don’t let it incapacitate you again. You may not be so lucky next time.
@Richard Wheeler: Yet Trump, with 99% of the corrupt liberal media against him and promoting Hillary, became President. What a tremendous victory and public denouncement of Obama’s Presidency and liberal propaganda.
@Bill… Deplorable Me: At least you know how to read–
It was a denouncement of HRC who I did not vote for.
BHO still more popular than Trump
That damn lame stream media again Is Intel in cahoots with them?–Your thoughts on Intel’s claim that Putin ordered the hack to assist Trump
I’m wondering if either you or RT will provide an intelligent response
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@Richard Wheeler: Obama is popular; his accomplishments are not. Almost 75% of the nation thinks we are headed in the wrong direction under Obama, yet many of these same people like him. What does that tell you?
Well, it tells me a lot of people voted for celebrity and this and this alone is what drives Obama’s popularity numbers, something you liberals seem obsessed with. I base my assessment of him solely upon what he has done for (or to) this nation and our people. Based on this, he’s not too popular with me.
Obama apparently politically controls the intelligence community; they have been doing his political bidding, not providing the raw intelligence he needs to make intelligent decisions (with predictable results). The media, of course, is liberal and does the liberal bidding. Intelligence and the media are not necessarily colluding, they are simply serving the same master.
So, why do you think the intelligence briefing was leaked to NBC when Trump was told it was not ready for his Wednesday briefing and had to be delayed to Friday? You don’t find it fishy that this administration has to build a public case to sell their dead-bang evidence and they do this by leaking what is supposed to be classified information to the media BEFORE it is allegedly ready to be briefed to Trump?
As I have said before, the case could be as they state it; Russia did it with Putin at the helm. However, this corrupt administration does everything it can to cast doubt upon its own credibility and trustworthiness. Most transparent, my ass.
Here is what I would like your response on; what about the CONTENT? The leaked emails showed manipulation, lies, corruption, racism, anti-Semitism and elitism throughout the DNC and the Democrat party. How does this make you feel, in view of your dog-loyal submission to their agenda and candidates?
@Bill… Deplorable Me: #126
Your comments are spot on. There is no honesty in this administration or the apparatchiks who make up this despicable cadre of miscreants.
I think as soon as Jeff Sessions is appointed AG, he should open case investigations into many of this administrations violations of Law. And, let the chips fall where they may regardless of who it may be including obama.
This is the swamp that needs to be drained.
@Bill… Deplorable Me: You are correct–Russia did it with Putin at the helm. The content released was ugly and hurt HRC. I didn’t vote for her or Trump—two extremely flawed candidates.
@Richard Wheeler: And what is the Lawyer for Barnyard Animals doing today to help the nation?
You believe Putin did it; I believe we have to see verification before we should believe that. I find it curious Obama imposed sanctions before he HAD that evidence. I guess Obama’s promise to Putin (through Medevev) to be more flexible (i.e., bend over further) was about as good as his other promises.
@Richard Wheeler: 123
Sorry, they didn’t tell him that. At least not in anything he’s said or that was written in the ‘released’ non-confidential statement.
When and where did I say you lied about that?
@Bill… Deplorable Me: The classified evidence is there. It’s been presented to Obama and Trump. You’re not gonna see it. If you don’t believe the a-political intelligence authorities that’s your problem..
@Richard Wheeler:
Oh yes I did, go back and look at that thread. I even changed dimocrat to democrat for that period, then you blew a fuse and started your screeching name calling, as I’ve shown above and realized that no one should attempt to make a deal with lying dimocrats.
Haven’t seen where they’ve ‘made up’ anything. In fact, don’t see anything at all from them as proof of Russian involvement. I’ve seen statements by news people that claim the say it had to have been Russia, but NO PROOF.
So here you clearly say Hillary is a POS that no one, not even you, should have voted for, but you have to try to blame it on the Russians. Why not blame you for doing the bad mouthing of POS. Clearly you don’t think anyone should have voted for her, so why would the Russkies make a difference?
@RedTeam: See your #121 no apology necessary–You’ve falsely accused me of worse.lol
They did tell Trump and Obama that Putin Ordered and Orchestrated the hack–Listen up RT. Stop digging
Now if you don’t believe these career pros who have worked for Reagan and Bush—well that is your right RT
@RedTeamHRC A terrible candidate–Trump even worse. I’ve bad mouthed em both. Trump won.
Putin hates HRC and did his best to help Trump by ordering the hack—That’s what the intelligence says–pretty simple.Stop digging
How much the directed leaks hurt HRC- with the voters–WHO KNOWS.
@Bill… Deplorable Me:
I’m not so sure. I think the polling is being done by those that idolize Obozo. I think there is about as much proof that Obozo is popular as there is proof that Putin had anything to do with the election.
For the same reason they leak information to John McCain, they know they will have a friendly source to carry their water for them and spread the false information. McCain’s hearings were a complete joke. They even started out telling him that they had no smoking gun that would prove the Russians were involved, then the very first statement McCain made to the press afterward was that they certainly had given them the proof. What an idiot. The NorthVietnamese must have swapped out his brain cells while he was visiting them.
Bill you said to Richie:
Are you kidding? Richie is a strong believer that the Dims are working to make America better. I mean, all those things, if they make the Dims better, just imagine how good the country could be if the Repubs took up the same traits? I do think it’s appropriate that when you said ‘leaked emails’ that you are referring to the ones leaked by the Dims, not the Russians.
@Richard Wheeler:
Why can’t you give a quote? What is your proof that Putin was involved? Nothing that came out of these intelligence briefings and releases contain even one sentence of proof. Only statements alleging or assuring, nothing that proves anything.
I guess those oceanfront property in Arizona sellers have a ball with you.
You still working on that tuition refund? Need any help with that?
@RedTeam: I know you’re pretty proud of that deep south home schoolin your mama gave you but she shoulda sent you off to 6th grade with your dad.
In all seriousness we’re not gonna get the same info provided Trump. Believe what you want–you always do.
@Richard Wheeler:
Richard, that’s a little silly. When they gave the confidential briefings they specifically said that they told them there was no ‘smoking gun’. It was all only ‘conclusions of how it must have been’ that’s total BS and smoke and mirrors. If they had proof, they would have shown it to Obozo and Trump and both of them would then have said that they had seen indisputable proof. Neither of them said it because it DID NOT HAPPEN.
When you can quote Trump stating that, then I might start to believe it. Ain’t gonna happen.
@Richard Wheeler:
She did, I thought you would know that. And then I stayed on after that until if finished a great education. I don’t even need a refund as you do. Too bad you didn’t have the same opportunities. All that extra time with my Dad was really beneficial. Did you ever get to meet your dad?
They told the senate committee there was no smoking gun, they told Obozo there was no smoking gun they told Trump there was no smoking gun. Guess what, Richie…..There is no smoking gun.
More ammo for your refund..
@Richard Wheeler: #128 Had she and the DNC not done ugly things there wouldn’t be much to release, and much much more that having the internet cut from Assange only slowed down.
What is in that server that they didnt want our intelligence services to see, them hiring an outside company. there are rumors, this new fake news law signed a ministry of truth established in Dec. seems the government dosent like not being in charge of the propaganda.
@RedTeam: And Intel told all you mentioned that Putin ordered and directed the hack. Did you miss that part—Nobody else did. Stop digging
I know you’d trust Putin and Assange over our Intel Pros.
Make you traitorous?? That’s for others to decide.
Semper Fi define “smoking gun” as relevant here lol
@Richard Wheeler:
But you’ve seen it, right? You’ve verified it. Right? Otherwise, you take it on good faith. Right?
You’ve missed a lot in 140 posts. This is an administration that lies on a regular basis. This administration has fired people that would not play his game; it’s how ISIS became JV and al Qaeda was on the run. So, we have to accept the intelligence analysis on good faith. You still have faith… blind faith. My faith has to be restored.
I DO believe and trust the people that collect the intelligence and analyze the data. I do NOT believe and trust those who draw the conclusions and make the presentations. It is they that have done the lying, at Obama’s behest, the past 8 years.
Any time this administration has an ulterior motive, what they tell us must be doubted because it has a reputation of lying. Liberals felt the same way about Bush when they believed he lied about the intelligence of the WMD’s… even AFTER is was shown it was faulty intelligence, not lies (and WMD’s were there, anyway). So, the wise and intelligent will be skeptical. The blindly faithful will defend their ideological leader.
@Richard Wheeler: They never had their hands on it, that makes the whole bruhaha hearsay from Obama operatives in the government, had the CIA, or NSA, who just happen to have experts in house, examined the server I’d have more inclination to believe their opinion.
Exactly what evidence was presented? How did this evidence point to the conclusion. Join the coyotes howling at the moon, it had no bearing on the election.
@Bill… Deplorable Me: You’ve got your own take—along with a very small minority—–I don’t buy it. I’ll believe a guy like Clapper a former Marine in service to his country since JFK and who has served Ronald Reagan among others.
Don’t confuse the issue—It’s not about whether released info changed any votes–we don’t know.
It’s about whether Putin ordered the hack in order to hurt HRC and help Trump. You can argue that but to most all it’s clear he did.
I’m gonna get out and enjoy this beautiful California day.
@Richard Wheeler: No, it’s about how you liberals cannot stand the fact that the entire liberal agenda was rejected by the American people and you have to create a different excuse.
That is exactly what it is about. Otherwise, Obama would have acted upon previous hacking and been more proactive.
Assange is a worm but he is more trustworthy than Obama. What does that tell you about Obama?
@Bill… Deplorable MeYou say: “Assange is more trustworthy than The POTUS.” What does that say about you Bill?
Over 66 million people voted against Trump–way over half–what does that say about Trump?
Do you believe Putin over Clapper who has served his country for over 50 years?
You and the Reactionary Right got lucky this time—running against HRC was a gift.
Enjoy it while you can. You’ll be out in 4 years—or less.
@Richard Wheeler: What it says about me is that when someone continually lies to me to cover up his agenda and his failures, I become distrustful. Again, aside from being a worm, we don’t know that Assange has lied. In fact, he performed a public service, informing the American public on issues that our own corrupt media will not investigate. Obama has lied about running guns to Mexican cartels, health care, the VA, IRS targeting, the economy, Iranian ransom payments, ISIS, Syria, gun control, terrorism and voter fraud. Yet, you expect me to simply suspend reality and believe what he says about the Russians and a person he pledged to be “more flexible” with.
You, Rich, would be a con man’s dream, for you would keep buying the same scheme over and over and over, regardless of how many times you got burned.
You don’t get it; I don’t believe ANY of them for they have all lied. You believe what you WANT to believe. THAT’S the difference.
The Democrats had the media working their show and the President, on the taxpayer nickel, cheering on Hillary, and she lost. What does THAT tell you about Trump?
@Bill… Deplorable Me: Trump is the most unpopular president-elect in American history–on this there is no argument.
The bar is set very low which is good for him. Most think he’s a con man as evidenced by his monetary settlement to the defrauded students of Trump U. His arrogance, celebrated by some, is distained by most. Simply put he’s a nasty guy.
Flip flops on immigration, global warming, planned parenthood and many other issues will characterize his 4 years.
He’ll be fighting personal lawsuits—-he’ll be glad to get out.
You say you don’t believe any of them–yet you believe Trump? Really?
@Richard Wheeler:
Says… what? The same liberal manipulated polls which showed Hillary enjoying a decisive lead?
@Bill… Deplorable Me: No Bill The 66 million who voted against him in the poll that made DT Prez.