Goodbye, Republican Party. And Good Riddance.

@kitt:

f4 with daddys money, but a real warrior so brave

let’s correct that to 4f. And then ask you if it’s legitimate for someone to be classified for medical reasons or not? Are you implying or flat out saying that ‘daddy’ bought the military doctors to give him that classification? I’ve seen or heard no evidence that his father did very much for Trump in any way. He has a brother that was apparently left the same thing he was and I haven’t; heard of him being a billionaire. Still haven’t heard your justification for being for someone that is not a natural born citizen running for president. Aren’t there enough qualified persons that you shouldn’t have to resort to an ineligible one. You keep listening to Rainbow Richie, he doesn’t even have the gonads to say he is going to vote for anyone. He just wants to take his marbles and go home and fly his rainbow flags.

@Richard Wheeler:

What did Trump do with the money SUPPOSEDLY raised for the VETS?

better question, what did you do with the money you raised for the animals in your ‘pride’ parade? Let’s see the numbers of money raised and the receipts for the donations. Before you start casting stones, perhaps you should have your own house in order. Who is in ‘charge’ of your organization? How much does he get from the funds raised? I’m gonna guess you’re not going to respond because the answers are not good for your side.
Kitt, if you want to see a real ‘song and dance routine’ ask Rich those questions because he will ignore my asking. Several of us already know the answer, you will not get a rational response from him. It was just his excuse for marching in a ‘pride’ parade.

Kitt, since you and RW are so concerned about the money raised by Trump for vets, and since RW is so credible, let’s look at his charity. Last year they raised $5 million. They used $2.5 million for the program and expenses. Question, where did the other $2.5 million go? is it residing in someone’s bank account? Why would they raise 5 million for animals and not spend 5 million for the animals? Just asking.

None of the money raised by Trump for the vets has gone anywhere except to vets. This money was raised in the last quarter, very few charities distribute all of their funds in the same quarter they are raised. Look at Rainbow Richie’s favorite charity, they raised 5 million last year and it still has been distributed for use by the charity. I’ve heard they’ve ordered a whole new batch of Rainbow flags.

@kitt: So you know Animal Charity Evaluators recommends The Humane League, Mercy For Animals, and Animal Equality as top 3 ( over 50 evaluated) “helping people find effective charities making each donation an investment in helping the most animals.”
I’ve worked for Merrill Lynch, Cushman and Wakefield and other Real Estate and Investment firms—-MFA is a great organization–check em out.

Re The Donald getting one mill as start up fom daddy–not bad
His older brother died of alcoholism which is reason Donald doesn’t drink.
Lack of military service—knows he got lucky there.

@Richard Wheeler:

Here he comes=4 posts in 19 minutes—poor guy have Tourettes?–

And your 3 posts in 6 minutes, is that a sign of Rainbow Warriors?
Most everyone does it that way. You come here after a few hours, read the comments and comment on them. If you have a different mission, just don your chaps and march away.

Kitt

The humane society has become a liberal scam, with the head getting 6 figures while they close down shelters.

Richie’s charity is the same way, raise 5 mill, use 2.5 for the animals and ‘whoops’ where did the rest go? Richie’s charity is NOT among the top three. No, wait, maybe he’s only ranking it amongst the gay run charities.

@Richard Wheeler: I saw it long ago he has addictions perhaps sexual in nature, a passive aggression, unhealthy need for attention but the experts:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/stop-walking-eggshells/201510/doe
Just saying there is something not right with him, his followers may be co-dependents.

The #Never Trumps and their Trump Derangement Syndrome

I don’t think I speak for myself alone when I confess utter bewilderment at the number of conservatives – among whom I count long-term friends – who seem to have lost their marbles when assessing the [possible] presidential candidacy of Donald Trump.

(Snip)

Bret Stephens and an all-too-prominent cohort of inside-the-beltway conservatives want to turn the presidency over to Hillary Clinton “to save conservatism.” What can this mean?

Have they forgotten who Hillary Clinton is? As Secretary of State she was the foreign policy captain in an administration that abandoned Iraq, thereby betraying every American and Iraqi who gave his or her life to keep that benighted country out of the hands of the terrorists and Iran (not that any Republican had the temerity to say so).

ISIS is as much her godchild as Barack Obama’s. In creating the vacuum that ISIS filled Hillary was only carrying on the Democratic foreign policy tradition that Jimmy Carter inaugurated of sacrificing America’s security to pie-eyed internationalist delusions.

As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton supported the overthrow of an American ally in Egypt and its replacement by the Muslim Brotherhood, the fountainhead of al-Qaeda and ISIS. She colluded in the overthrow of an American ally in Libya – a country posing no threat to the United States – thereby turning it into a base for ISIS and al-Qaeda.

It was Hillary who was behind the gunrunning scheme to al-Qaeda rebels in Syria that led to the Benghazi disaster. She denied Ambassador Stephens – her American pawn in Benghazi – the security he requested in order to cover Obama’s retreat in the war on terror (it was election time), and then lied about his murder and that of three American heroes to the American people, to the mothers and fathers of the dead heroes, and to the world at large.

According to the official version she approved insulting the prophet Mohammed was the problem not the terrorist onslaught that she and Obama had helped to unleash. Now we have learned that she willfully violated America’s Espionage Act, resulting in tens of thousands of her emails, classified and unclassified falling into the hands of the Russians and other adversary powers, and leading to how many future American casualties we can only guess.

This is the president that Bret Stephens and Bill Kristol and George Will think would be better for conservative values and conservative concerns than Donald Trump, a man who has raised an admirable family (a character-reflecting feat his detractors always overlook) and whose patriotism in the course of a long public life has never been in question.

(Snip)

…The greatest obstacle to a Republican victory in November is the fratricidal war now being waged by the “Never Trump” crowd against the only person who might prevent the disaster awaiting us if the party of Obama and Kerry and Hillary and Sharpton prevails in November.

Their Trump hysteria notwithstanding, I still have the highest regard for the intellects of Bret Stephens and George Will and their comrades-in-arms. But I am hoping against hope that they come to their senses before it is too late.

I see the same thing happening here on FA. Trump (who is NOT a GOPe establishment candidate,) is promising to enact a good many things that the conservative party base (and a good many blue collar moderates,) have been demanding for decades, (only to get lip service from the RINO’s and ignored following the election.) These “conservatives held their noses and voted for establishment nominees.

Yet because this time they didn’t get Ted Cruz (or some other “true conservative” candidate,) they are deciding to pout and not vote for the one candidate who from day one has taken on what the people want and this nation needs. What petulant babies.

This is like the people of OZ deciding that they “would much rather take the chance of putting The Wicked Witch of the West in the Emerald City’s ‘oval office,’ rather than the self proclaimed “Great and powerful Wizard of OZ” in power.” (now that the Tin Man has been taken out of the running due to rain and rust). Sure the Wizard was a humbug, but he was a thoughtful one who cared enough so much about the good people of OZ that he kept them safe and happy, using all his theatrical tricks to help and protect them, and to place terror in the black hearts of the evil Witches, who dared not take on his power.

The only choice we have here today, is to trust Trump will keep to his conservative promises. Or to let Witch Hillary win the presidency and finish Obama’s and the progressive-fascist’s plan, to bring this once mighty nation into its utter destruction and make us all slaves to the progressive overlords.

What’s it going to be? Patriot or Slave? There is no other path.

i’m expecting “john Miller” will start calling in to Fox and CNN to have some good words for The Donald. Unbelievable that Trump would throw himself under the bus.

Kitt ” unhealthy need for attention” Can you believe this character/reality show host? This is getting funnier as it goes. He’s not returning phone calls–surely a first–and his T.V spokes people are choking out disclaimers that it’s not him. stopdigging.
i remember growing up in N.Y. one of the favorite expressions was” lie and deny”

Do any of you people actually trust this guy? Why?
and don’t give me “but Hillary–“

@kitt: I can’t stop laughing Thanks Kitt

Wait—Maybe I should be really afraid.

@Richard Wheeler: RW, out of the last 9 posts, 5 of them are by you. Enuff said. Who is John Miller? What is your problem with gays RT? I don’t recall saying I had a problem with you. Refresh my memory.

Kitt

a person that was born of an american citizen and was in the country since 4 years old

that’s not the definition of a ‘natural born citizen’. What’s your problem with following the US Constitution? Is it too hard for you? Can’t you understand it?

@kitt:

Those born to an American citizen on foreign soil are natural born that has been the law since 1790,

Not true then, not true now. American citizen, yes, natural born, no.

confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time.

Bingo. And the law, as written provides that a person born of American parents in some other country is a citizen ‘provided’ the do what is necessary to confirm that citizenship. i.e., they have to complete a naturalization process. look at the steps necessary for a citizen born abroad to ‘claim that citizenship’ if they were ‘natural born’, no steps would be necessary.
NO natural born citizen can be born as a citizen of another country. If they are, by definition, they are not ‘natural born’. Cruz was born as a citizen of either two or three. No way will he ever be declared ‘natural born’ if it ever goes to a court that rules on the constitution, not just ‘standing’

@kitt: I can live with that.

@Richard Wheeler: Its not RTs fault Fox CNN and the rest of the mainstream media have not reported facts. They are complicit with Hillary none of the truth about Trump will come out til AFTER the convention.
According to Trump himself all of his stumping points have been only suggestions he has no firm set in stone stands, none not 1.

@Richard Wheeler:

It seems that Trumpist RT has lost whatever sanity he may have once had–his head is so far up Trump’s ass he’s lost all reason–doesn’t know who John Miller is? How bout John Barron—come out for air and ask Trump RT.—Are you that clueless?

If these are buddies of Trump and I’ve never heard of them, kinda blows your theory that I’m a ‘Trumpist’ (whatever that is) doesn’t it.
isn’t your word worth anything, you said you were going to bypass my comments. Clearly you are reading them

Did you make any of those 26 kiddie flights with Slick Willie, that’s probably what he was doing when he was draft dodging.

@David: Additional comments:

For all intents and purposes, she is a natural born US citizen. If you want to argue the point, please direct your argument to the Department of Defense and the State Department.

I would leave off the ‘for all intents and purposes,’, I’d just say since you did what was required she is natural born. My point was that children born outside the US have to fulfill certain requirements, which you clearly did. In fact, every thing you said just strengthens my basic argument, that certain things have to be done, and Cruz did not do those ‘certain things’. But even if he had, he still would not be natural born because both of his parents were not US Citizens when he was born.

I live in a city with a large military base and see very many birth certificates every year with the registration of youth baseball leagues. Many of them are born in foreign countries and their birth certificates indicate all the pertinent data to insure the births are properly recorded.

@Redteam #129, #130

“Doesn’t that disprove what you are saying? Why did you ‘register’ her birth with the US Consulate, and waive her Italian citizenship. Isn’t that what I said they had to do. Had you not done that, she would not be natural born.

No, you did not say that is what had to be done. You said naturalization. Registering one’s birth with the US consulate and waiving the dual citizenship is not a naturalization process. The important part is waiving the dual citizenship is to prevent any citizenship issues and issues regarding future moves, not to discern who’s natural born or not.

Not every military parent that has a dependent child born abroad quickly registers the birth of their child. Some wait until they are about ready to rotate home. Others don’t do it all, saying they would leave it to their child to make the decision when the become an adult. There is no military regulation, no State Department requirement, nor statutory requirement that makes this mandatory. For non-military individuals, they may not be aware a citizenship issue may exist, or there is a process to prevent this from becoming an issue.

With regard to the “for all intents and purposes” phrase, that is in the legal terminology waiving the dual citizenship. It is to prevent individuals, organizations and others from questioning the citizenship status of those who were military dependent children born abroad. Since it appears you have a problem with that particular phrasing, I suggest you take that matter up with DoD or State.

I’m done discussing this topic.