FLASHBACK Jan. 14: WHO Tells Everyone Don’t Worry Because China Says Coronavirus Isn’t Contagious

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The World Health Organization (WHO) tried to cam fears of a pandemic on Jan. 14 by repeating China’s claim that coronavirus was not contagious among humans.

“Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,” the WHO tweeted.

Just 60 days later, the global death toll from coronavirus had topped 8000 and continued to climb. Over 200,000 cases had been documented in 145 countries.



But the virus’ means of transmission was far from the only misinformation coming from Chinese officials.

Beijing reported that the first known cases of the novel coronavirus were recorded in mid-December — but later reporting from outside sources suggested that the earliest cases were tracked in November and kept under wraps.

In addition, Caixin Global reported that Chinese officials had identified the virus as early as mid-December — but were instructed to destroy both their test results and their samples.

The UK Times reported:

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Just two weeks later, on Feb 3rd, President Trump took unprecedented action to shut off travel to and from China.
He made Americans returning from there sit in isolation 14 days, too.
Of course Dems were too busy trying to impeach him to help.
But, lately, that trend of cooperation has been growing.

@Nan G:

Of course Dems were too busy trying to impeach him to help.
But, lately, that trend of cooperation has been growing.

Whaaaa?!?! Why, just this morning, Schumer claimed the Democrats have been clamoring for action on this crisis for months. It’s too bad lies can’t cure the virus. For once, the Democrats would be able to save the day.

“Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,” the WHO tweeted.

Indeed, they hadn’t. The November 17 case was only recognized as the likely Patient Zero retrospectively. The association between illnesses and a new coronavirus wasn’t established until December 26. The first case suggestive of direct person-to-person transmission didn’t occur until January 14, the same day as the WHO notice. At that point, the common denominator appeared to be a particular seafood and animal market, so other vectors seemed more likely.

This was the situation on January 16, 2020: 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV), Wuhan, China

There were a total of only 40 known cases at that point, but the CDC was already paying close attention.

It’s a fact that Chinese officials reflexively went into denial mode and attempted to downplay the danger. This seems to be a problem not only in China, but it’s much worse there because of the government’s power and willingness to suppress information and dissenting opinion.

@Greg: Now go find the earliest article where the Dems were clamoring for action we are just a little over 6 weeks when the racist xenophobe in a knee jerk fashion stopped germ traffic from kung flu central.

@Greg: It’s heartening to see you giving the Communist Chinese all the benefit of the doubt you will NEVER extend to your very own President… who is doing a great job under difficult circumstances, by the way.

@Deplorable Me: Russian disinformation, now chinese propaganda and lies, I dont know if Greg has any discernment at all.

Next time a lib screams Trump isnt doing enough and hospitals will be overwhemed ask why the President has to deal with these crap regulations and anti-competition laws that drives up our costs

State Regulations Let Hospitals Literally Veto New Competition. Here’s How To Change That.

The federal government is full of this dumbness.

@Deplorable Me, #5:

I’m not giving them the benefit of the doubt. It’s known what information came in and when. The first case, November 17, wasn’t recognized by anyone for what it was until later. January 14 was the date of the first case suggestive of direct person-to-person transmission—a married couple in Wuhan who had no apparent contact with the market thought to be the point of origin. We were being told this was totally under control on January 22, at the same time China was very publicly locking down 36 million Chinese citizens to control the outbreak. Warnings being raised here were being blown off as a leftist fear mongering campaign and part of a plot against Donald Trump. Facts remain facts, whether we like them or not.

@kitt: Also, those who believe the military should be cut to the bone will have to contend with the reality that without the USN hospital ships and the Army’s MASH units, the situation could be far worse.

@Greg: Yeah, in fact you are. You thing on November 17 there was ONE case which, sometime later, someone suddenly remembered was the Wuhan? If it wasn’t suspicious and noted, we wouldn’t be knowing about it now. But, by all means… make your excuses and apologies for the goddamn communist Chinese who, apparently, are not satisfied with killing millions of their own people but need to export their lethal life style to the world.

And then you just can’t resist proving my point beyond any possible doubt. Provide your proof that Trump blew this off as a leftist fear mongering campaign. The leftist fear mongering campaign EXISTS, but it is NOT the virus itself and without it we would be much safer. We’ll all be anxiously awaiting your “evidence”.

@Deplorable Me, #9:

If it wasn’t suspicious and noted, we wouldn’t be knowing about it now.

It was most likely notable for not being diagnosable at the time. That would be exactly the sort of thing epidemiologists would be screening records to find when attempting to trace a contagious disease back into the past to its point of origin. They’d be looking for any earlier, unexplained occurrences of the same set of symptoms, which weren’t particularly meaningful at the time but now have become so. We know about the first case now—or at least a very early case—because they were successful at doing so.

@Greg: Link to this quote of yours

Warnings being raised here were being blown off as a leftist fear mongering campaign and part of a plot against Donald Trump. Facts remain facts, whether we like them or not.

Show me, put up or shut up.
He was slapped by the leftist media for his travel ban Feb 2nd as a knee jerk racist xenophone.

@Greg:

Trump: Coronavirus is Democrats’ ‘new hoax’

And Trump is right. The causality rate is no more than this year’s flu.

@Randy, #13:

The U.S. population is 327,200,000. If 40 percent of the population becomes infected, and only 1 percent of those died, we would lose 1 million, three hundred and eight thousand Americans. That’s more than three times as many as died as a result of World War 2.

That’s what could happen if we don’t take serious enough measures to stop it. This isn’t the seasonal flu. It’s more contagious and more lethal. Besides the deaths, it could bring about a lingering economic depression.

@Greg: Now look at the dates where were democrats calling for travel bans etc?
Democrat Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf has shut down travelers rest areas.
Now lets think about that piece of brain fart. Regulations read Truck drivers can only drive x amount before mandated rest. with truck stops shut down no food for them either. Drive thru with the clearance bars impossible to navigate. The drivers should refuse to service PA.

@kitt:

Seems Comrade Greggie has a new job; press secretary for the Chinese Communist Party. Him and the NYTimes reporter who says we (America) owes a debt of gratitude to China.

@Greg:

most likely

Yeah, they had, I’m sure the best of intentions. However, though there was no collusion between Trump and ANY Russians, he is DEFINITELY a Russian agent. Though Zelensky never knew of any pressure, got all the aid he needed and never made any public announcements, there was DEFINITELY quid pro quo. But, why doubt the word of communist Chinese? I mean, when have THEY ever lied?

Besides… they’re just communists that have murdered hundreds of thousands… NOT Trump.

Coronavirus will ‘miraculously’ be gone by April ‘once the weather warms up’
Coronavirus Risk to Americans `Remains Very Low’
Trump: Coronavirus is Democrats’ ‘new hoax’

Once again, if you actually had an argument you wouldn’t have to rely of LIES.

That’s what could happen if we don’t take serious enough measures to stop it.

No, that’s what could happen if the Democrats keep pulling in the opposite direction and inciting fear. Which, of course, is what Democrats are shooting for.

@retire05: Pretty soon he’ll be outwardly cheering on the Chinese virus to defeat Trump. It’s a clear sign of utter desperation and it’s pretty sick.

@Greg: You really are stupid! You have no idea how to calculate causalities. You continue to drink the kool-aide. You know nothing about history or epidemiology, yet you spew ignorance with every word!

@Randy: @Randy: C’mon-you know that’s his regular schtick. Obviously the product of the academic cabal, dimocrat propaganda, and the brainwashing from the LSM. Not worth getting upset over. Why have a battle of wits with a half-armed opponent?

Maybe blacklist Bat Boy on your spam filter?

March 18, 2020 – Kushner coronavirus team sparks confusion, plaudits inside White House response efforts

Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and a senior adviser, has created his own team of government allies and private industry representatives to work alongside the administration’s official coronavirus task force, adding another layer of confusion and conflicting signals within the White House’s disjointed response to the crisis.

Kushner, who joined the administration’s coronavirus efforts last week, is primarily focused on attempting to set up drive-through testing sites with the help of technology and retail executives, as well as experts in health-care delivery. The goal, officials familiar with the work said, is to have limited testing in a handful of cities running by Friday and to expand the project from there.

But Kushner’s team is causing confusion among many officials involved in the response, who say they are unsure who is in charge given Kushner’s dual role as senior adviser and Trump family member. Some have privately dubbed his team a “shadow task force” whose requests they interpret as orders they must balance with regular response efforts.

Some members of Kushner’s team are working out of offices on the seventh floor of Health and Human Services headquarters — one floor above the office of HHS secretary Alex Azar — while others are working out of an office in the West Wing of the White House, officials said.

They include representatives of companies such as UPS, FedEx and Flatiron Health, as well as Kushner allies inside the government such as Brad Smith, director of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation.

Two senior officials said some government officials have become increasingly confused as they have received emails from private industry employees on Kushner’s team and have been on conference calls with them, unsure what their exact role is in the government response. Several people involved in the response said the involvement of outside advisers — who are emailing large groups of government employees from private email addresses — also raises legitimate security concerns about whether these advisers are following proper government protocols.

“We don’t know who these people are,” one senior official said. “Who is this? We’re all getting these emails.”

Kushner defended his role in an interview, saying his team’s goal was to bring “an entrepreneurial approach” to the crisis.

An entrepreneurial approach? What does that even mean, in the context of a pandemic response? Is that the same approach he took with his Middle East peace plan?

@Randy, #18:

It’s simple arithmetic, Randy. And it’s not even the worst of the current worst scenario projections.

Current worst case estimates are that up to 70 percent of the U.S. population could eventually become infected, not the lower 40 percent I used in my example; as of yesterday—Tuesday, March 17—the U.S. COVID-19 death rate stood at 1.7 percent. It has been dropping as it has moved from nursing homes into the general population, and Anthony Fauci thinks that it might level out at the 1 percent I used in my calculation. But that leveling out depends upon maintaining our current level of medical care as the number of patients pouring into the system rapidly climbs.

The numbers and statistics are from the article below:

March 18, 2020 – One chart shows different countries’ current coronavirus death rates, based on the known number of cases and deaths

@Greg: Government protocols sent out faulty tests, then slowed tests developed by state labs.
Private enterprise works at a faster pace goal oriented. If they are confused let them speak to the Vice President he is the point man.
Speed is the main goal ,the cogs in a government wheel sometimes are waiting for some damn form that sits on a porn surfers desk…forgotten.
Washington Compost no names leaked,no doubt out of the NSC like a certain classified phone call.
Lets get er done, they have 1/2 of the economy at a standstill. How many do you want to die waiting on a desk monkey downloading titty pics?

It might be worth remembering that the entrepreneurial approach and maximization of profit is why we’re now dependent on China for around 90 percent of our most commonly used prescription drugs.

@Greg: Someone didnt think our drug supply was an important strategic asset. You know like computer chips used in our military , uranium etc.
Maximizing profit isnt the goal, identify hot spots and how fast this Kung flu has been spreading. We might have to limit travel to certain hot spots.
Tests only provide data to make decisions, where to funnel assets.
Whats your plan how would WaPo do it, no better ideas then STFU!

@Greg:

It might be worth remembering that the entrepreneurial approach and maximization of profit is why we’re now dependent on China for around 90 percent of our most commonly used prescription drugs.

If you had any business training, or experience, you’d understand how stupid that comment is.

I don’t think it’s stupid at all. It’s a matter of national security to retain the ability to produce certain critical items for ourselves. The only reason we’re dependent on China for many things is because more profit could be made by getting them there.

@Greg:

Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and a senior adviser, has created his own team of government allies and private industry representatives to work alongside the administration’s official coronavirus task force, adding another layer of confusion and conflicting signals within the White House’s disjointed response to the crisis.

Opinion and partisan rhetoric.

Stopped reading. Dismissed.

Perhaps you might want to consider the cost to your party, as you stand on the backs of dead Americans when you distort fact in a vain attempt for political gain?

@Nathan Blue: He is a hopeless case. He can only repeat the ultra simpleton explanations handed to him by the CIA mockingbird media.

Hey, I’m not this guy. The video is from Halftime Report, broadcast midday on Wednesday. He makes me seem positively calm. Of course I don’t stand to lose a billion dollars without massive corporate bailouts from the Trump administration.

Wednesday, March 18, 2020 – ‘Hell is coming’ — Bill Ackman has dire warning for Trump, CEOs if drastic measures aren’t taken now

@Greg: I really cant take that site seriously, the article on food shortages, there will be no shortage, ever hear of government cheese, its because the farmers have excess they are looking to sell their milk to any dairy. Butter cheese buy real food not almond milk and processed flavored plastic squares of tasteless vegetable oil goo. Buy good whole milk use butter. Eggs now 99 will be 69 cents a dozen soon the hens will because of spring, be laying like crazy.. Ignorant city boy wrote that garbage, to cause another panic buying spree of things that will spoil in the fridge. Is everyone going to eat french toast til they burst?
They have a severe shortage of brains on that site. UNPLUG THE AI TRADING MACHINE it may have a virus.
There never was a shortage of TP there was an insane run on it, selfish pigs buying too much and grandma who shops once bi-weekly goes without her 4 rolls.
Dont pay attention to the numbers of new flu cases til next week rapid testing will jump the numbers.

@Greg: Epidemiology is not simple arithmetic. If it was, even dummies like you could do it. It takes years of experience and complex formulas that must be altered to accommodate real situations. When you grow up greggie and learn something important, maybe you will understand. Until then, let the grownups be the experts.

@Greg: Then maybe you should have not voted for Obama the second term and should be supporting Trump right now! We all know greggie, your ideologically skewed thought process cannot allow you to do that!

@Greg: WHAT “senior officials”? Do you EVER have names associated with your propaganda?

It might be worth remembering that the entrepreneurial approach and maximization of profit is why we’re now dependent on China for around 90 percent of our most commonly used prescription drugs.

No, that is a result of onerous taxes, regulations and China’s influence within our government, such as their campaign contributions to the Bill Clinton campaigns. Necessity and survival is not “greed”.

I don’t think it’s stupid at all. It’s a matter of national security to retain the ability to produce certain critical items for ourselves.

Oh. Really. THAT’S what you believe? So tell us, WHY do you do all you can to DESTROY the one and only President that has EVER tried to restore US manufacturing and production capabilities? You and all your Democrats are flushable.

@kitt: Isn’t it odd how all those big central government controlling all the functions of our lives people suddenly want all the red tape dropped and instant action applied? THEY’VE promoted and built a system of numerous redundant and conflicting layers replete with power struggles and competition for resources. When they fail to meet goals, THEIR solution is to hire more people and dump more money into a failed process. Private enterprise solutions are to find people that drive efficiency and cut time and costs.

@Greg: This isn’t the silver bullet your employers are hoping for, bub.

Dems are most likely going to lose the House given their level of divisiveness during this time.

Everyone else is working together. Why can’t you and your troll mill shut down operations for 30 days and stop damaging the Republic?

You might not have a billion dollars to lose, but the people you ultimately are working for do.

@Nathan Blue:

Everyone else is working together. Why can’t you and your troll mill shut down operations for 30 days and stop damaging the Republic?

Because that renders the contest to a level playing field pitting ideas against ideas and performance against performance and the Democrats KNOW they can’t regain power that way.

Watching Gov. Cuomo and he is expressing frustration about the media taking every word and phrase (shelter in place, quarantine, evacuation, etc) and turning it into the worst possible implication. He should consider himself lucky that he has a FRIENDLY media and not one slicing his comments up to remove context and meaning and adding the left’s own flavors.

@Deplorable Me: That’s the rub of Trump in the first place: his ideas and principles are better than the Left’s, and that’s why he’s succeeded.

@Nathan Blue, #36:

A trillion dollars plus in massive bailouts, loans, and cash stimulus measures, all on top of a preexisting trillion-dollar deficit when tax revenues are about to drop through the floorboards… What ideas and principles are you referring to?

I’m not arguing that this isn’t necessary. Only that if it were a democrat proposing the same set of responses, you’d be organizing a mob with tar and feathers. I think maybe the troll mill is about 50 percent your own reflection.

@Greg: well let us see what can contribute to increased national debt. One of the issues of uncontrolled immigration (illegal immigration) has always been the potential for infecting the US population with diseases for which they are not immunized. Mumps, measles and whopping cough are a few that have increased in the US with illegal immigration. What segmentation of the US population has continuously supported illegal immigrants?

Uncontrolled homeless populations are a high potential for communicable diseases. Where are most of these populations located? I believe they are in most sanctuary cities that are governed by what segment of the US population?

From 2009 to 2016 many manufacturing companies moved out of the US to avoid the major increase in taxes supported by what segment of US society? Now, it is evident that the US can not even support its own health care programs. Who made that happen by major increases in corporate taxes?

Who destroyed the US auto industry in the US by illegally stripping bond holder of their first place positions during bankruptcy? Priority funds went to unions to support political agendas. Who made that happen?

Even now when the President is working with professional health personnel to minimize impact of the “Chinese flu” on the health of the US population and the economic health of the country, the media and one political party has delayed and resisted common sense approaches to solutions. What segment of the US population is guilty of this “resistance”?

So greggie, you have no one to blame except for you and those like you! I didn’t even get into the “racist” name calling and manipulation of home and business loans that caused the last recession. what segment of the US population made that likely?

@Greg: Might I remind you of a REAL WORLD historic incident where a Democrat passed an $865 billion “stimulus” that choked a 7.2% unemployment rate ALL THE WAY DOWN to 10.2% and resulted in NO stimulus? How much did the media attack that?

@Deplorable Me, #39:

Might I remind you of a REAL WORLD historic incident where a Democrat passed an $865 billion “stimulus” that choked a 7.2% unemployment rate ALL THE WAY DOWN to 10.2% and resulted in NO stimulus?

Sure, but I know it’s total bullshit. Obama inherited an economic disaster and ended his second term with a solid recovery, the 75th consecutive month of job growth, and greatly reduced deficits—which promptly skyrocketed again after Trump took office. With the tax cuts and spending increases, we were running trillion-dollar deficits before coronavirus even entered the picture.

From FOX News, March 18, 2020 – Trump administration seeks 2 rounds of checks to Americans in massive coronavirus response

The White House is moving forward with a proposed $1 trillion coronavirus package that would infuse Americans’ bank accounts with two rounds of direct cash payments.

The draft of the plan outlines a major economic infusion that goes well beyond the stimulus and bailout plans during the last financial crisis and designed to prop up an economy that has ground to a halt as stores and restaurants and schools are shuttering nationwide and families are isolating at home.

The Trump administration’s stimulus package is bigger than the 2008 bank bailout, and the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which was passed and signed under former President Barack Obama and totaled $787 billion to help stabilize the economy about 14 months after the last recession began.

@Greg:

2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which was passed and signed under former President Barack Obama and totaled $787 billion to help stabilize the economy about 14 months after the last recession began.

We are not building parks here buddy we are keeping people fed, from getting evicted. Most of this was put together by Democrats in congress. Whats your plan? Nothing? STFU then, I hope its an advance on their tax refund, Obama just stole those refunds outright for not being able to afford or want his crappy insurance.

@Greg: NO solid recovery. NEVER a solid recovery. Weak, lethargic response fueled solely by quantitative easing… a debt TRUMP inherited. Obama, by the way, wanted to reinstitute the ruinous Community Reinvestment Act that brought about that recession… so he had NO idea what he was doing.

@kitt: True, and not giving unions a transfusion of taxpayer cash for them to remit a goodly portion of back to the DNC in campaign contributions.

Elsewhere I mentioned a reminder of Obama’s response to the Deepwater Horizon disaster… which HE caused. Slow, misguided and always careful to consult with political allies before he took any steps, his response increased the economic impact of millions of barrels of crude oil leaking many fold. But Democrats only expect “perfection” when they stand to benefit from criticism.

March 19, 2020 – Intelligence Chairman Raised Virus Alarms Weeks Ago, Secret Recording Shows

The above audio recording was secretly made at a private meeting with Senator Burr’s constituents three weeks before the general public was warned what was likely coming. The Trump administration was still asserting that the coronavirus threat was minimal and would quickly blow over.

@Greg: Good thing they didnt panic the public 3 or 4 weeks after the travel ban to China was announced, they would be stepping on the lame stream medias territory. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. They should discuss the worst things that could happen.
I thought you said they were not taking it seriously hmmm that recording kind of blows that theory out of the water.

@kitt: @Deplorable Me:

Obama inherited an economic disaster and ended his second term with a solid recovery, the 75th consecutive month of job growth, and greatly reduced deficits—

You know, I am really sick of hearing this talking point from far left agitators like Comrade Greggie. He, and his fellow Socialists want to blame the recession on George W. Bush because to admit the obvious reasons for the Great Recession would dispel all their blame games.

First; there is this from one of Comrade Greggie’s favorite sources:

https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/01/24/8234040/index.htm

Then there is this:
https://www.heartland.org/publications-resources/publications/why-the-united-states-has-suffered-the-worst-economic-recovery-since-the-great-depression

And this:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1211822

Now, I don’t want to read Comrade Greggie’s b/s again.

@kitt, #44:

We would have been far better off now with a lot less official denial and a lot more public apprehension beginning three weeks earlier.

@Greg: You mean greggie when Trump was being criticized by the left for minimizing travel into the US and being proactive while trying to minimize panic caused by the left?

@Randy, #47:

Yeah, that’s what I mean. If you tell people the truth they’ll understand why such measures are being taken. There might have been less market disruption, too. Panic wasn’t caused by the left. It was caused by holding information back from the public until denial was no longer possible, and then having a sudden avalanche of bad news coming more quickly than people could calmly process it.

@Greg: Brother 3 more weeks of stress and panic buying? You know better than that, have you not seen the physical fights over toilet paper in the stores? Now your sources saying there will be food shortages, and there will be, unless, the NE starts treating truck drivers that keep the stores stocked with some empathy.
Be calm do your part wash your hands and limit time out of your house. Dont panic buy and horde. Its been said over and over.
Stress is bad for the immune system.

@Greg: You just agreed with me! The media ramped up the potential issue.