Fifth Illegal Alien Arrested For Rape In Montgomery County, MD In Last Month

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This is how much the left actually CARES about public safety.

That’s what happens when conviction following a tragic shooting is based on flawed prosecutorial procedure, and the case has been so politicized that an objective assessment of the entire situation becomes virtually impossible.

@Greg:

res ipsa loquitur

But then, you are supportive of illegals, even those who should be in prison, because………………………….new Democrat voters. Immaterial that a young American woman, in the prime of her life, is dead by a man who has consistently violated American law.

Once deported, re-entering the U.S. is a felony. One can only pray that this slime bag eventually serves some hard time. Otherwise, there is no justice in America any more.

What a disgusting human being you are, Greggie Goebbels. Absolutely disgusting.

@Greg: No, that is proof positive that anything the left declares about gun control is purely political and aimed at disarming citizens, not safety.

@retire05, #52:

But then, you are supportive of illegals, even those who should be in prison, because … What a disgusting human being you are, Greggie Goebbels. Absolutely disgusting.

Actually, I think people like you are largely blame for the outcome. They made it all about his illegal alien status. Their howling for his head because of that generated the pressure that was behind prosecutorial overreach, and prosecutorial overreach was what ultimately led to him getting off with little more than deportation.

The prosecution should have gone straight to involuntary manslaughter charges. Conviction for murder in California, either 1 or 2, requires that malice aforethought be established. That would be virtually impossible to prove in any courtroom, given that the victim was killed 90 feet away as the result of a single shot that ricocheted off the pavement. It probably couldn’t even be proved beyond a doubt that Jose Inez Garcia-Zarate was aware of the victim’s presence. Forcing the jury to first deliberate patently unsupportable 2nd degree murder charges likely caused them to view manslaughter with an unwarranted degree of skepticism.

Clearly this was more the fault of zealots who thought they could turn the defendant into another poster boy for the cause than of those who consistently support the same even-handed application of the law for anyone. I would put myself in that latter category. I would cut Jose Inez Garcia-Zarate no more slack than I would cut Donald Trump.

@Greg:

Clearly this was more the fault of zealots who thought they could turn the defendant into another poster boy for the cause than of those who support the same even-handed application of the law for anyone.

The fault lies with the “catch and release” practice. Had this piece of human waste been prosecuted with felony reentry when he was caught, and then deported, the second time, he would not have been on the streets of California.

Fortunately, he is still facing federal felony charges and hopefully he will be in prison for a good amount of time soon.

Actually, I think people like you are largely blame for the outcome. They made it all about his illegal alien status.

He is an illegal alien, Greggie Goebbels. End of story. He should not have been in the U.S. unless he was breaking up big rocks to turn them into little rocks. But people like you, who support illegal immigration are the problem. And you, again, ignore the whole subject of this thread: illegal aliens, SIX OF THEM NOW, who have raped Americans in Montgomery County and not once, NOT ONCE, have you expressed any sympathy for those lives ruined. And please, don’t come back with some retort on how sad you are for those broken lives. Your platitudes ring hollow every time.

You are a prime example of just what disgusting human beings liberals are. You should not be allowed in polite society. Thank G-d you never had children.

@Greg: I think this bullshit you have concocted here in defense of illegal immigrants that kill exceeds all your other bullshit. Pathetic, just like your party.

@retire05, #55:

He is an illegal alien, Greggie Goebbels. End of story. He should not have been in the U.S. unless he was breaking up big rocks to turn them into little rocks. But people like you, who support illegal immigration are the problem.

That damning generalization would be the fixation that renders you incapable of rational thought with regard to any individual case. It renders you incapable of making a distinction between a illegal alien who happens to be a rapist or murderer, and a young man who was brought here illegally as an infant and has since become an honor student and a high school valedictorian.

You seem strongly inclined to make the same sort of highly negative generalization about the members of any identifiable group that oppose your views. And Donald Trump is here to throw gasoline on that sort of fire. That’s more than half of his strategy.

@Greg:

That damning generalization would be the fixation that renders you incapable of rational thought with regard to any individual case.

When, with your very first act, you violate the laws of the nation you want access to, why should you be allowed to stay?

It renders you incapable of making a distinction between a illegal alien who happens to be a rapist or murderer, and a young man who was brought here illegally as an infant and has since become an honor student and a high school valedictorian.

Again, with your circular arguments. When has your example of a young man brought here illegally even been discussed in this thread? It hasn’t, but once again, you being the radical left winger you are, tries to tug at the heart strings. You see, you, and your party have no answers just emotions. Laws are only for those that are acceptable by people like you. If you are part of the Democratic Party’s “privileged” groups (minorities but not whites) you are free to break our laws and still garner sympathy.

Tell me, Greggie Goebbels, how many illegals have you taken into your home and been financially responsible for because if the answer is zero (which I suspect it is) you have no right to demand the burden be placed on the rest of us.

You seem strongly inclined to make the same sort of highly negative generalization about the members of any identifiable group that oppose your views.

If by that you mean that I dispute what Socialists like yourself support, you are 110% right.

And Donald Trump is here to throw gasoline on that sort of fire. That’s more than half of his strategy.

Again, with you it’s Trump, Trump, Trump. He lives rent free in the tiny house that is your brain.

Or maybe you just hate all white people.

When, with your very first act, you violate the laws of the nation you want access to, why should you be allowed to stay?

The problem is that we can’t ask that question of 10 million people and expect to get a single, rational, one-size-fits-all answer. That some shouldn’t be allowed to stay is obvious. So is the fact that others are worthier people than many natural born citizens.

To my way of thinking, Obama’s policy of prioritizing deportation to remove the former made a lot more sense. So did his policy of putting those caught entering illegally back on the other side of the border. Now were capturing violators indiscriminately and locking them up indefinitely with no real plan how to deal with their growing numbers, at a cost to taxpayers of over $700 each per day. Apparently this is somebody’s idea of a solution—possibly the private corporations that are getting paid to hold them. Somebody is also making a bundle building a wall along a 1,954 border, when many illegal residents and most contraband arrives through normal ports of entry.

@Greg: The real truth is that if all illegals were not given sanctuary and were deported until they received asylum, then illegals would not be raping or killing citizens because they would not be here! Please not that I did not say that all illegals rape or kill.

@Greg:

That damning generalization would be the fixation that renders you incapable of rational thought with regard to any individual case.

People immigrate legally (known as “immigrants”) and people immigrate ILLEGALLY (known as “criminals”). It’s not generalization; it is demographic. What you are in fact describing is your acceptance of crime as a political weapon. When crimes serve your party’s political goals, they can be ignored or even encouraged. Rape or murder doesn’t make the crime any worse; the political ends must be achieved.

What you are in fact describing is your acceptance of crime as a political weapon.

Yet Trump—who has already been pronounced immune from prosecution—openly breaks laws to extend his immunity to include congressional oversight authority, and his supporters really don’t give a doodley damn…

@Greg:

The problem is that we can’t ask that question of 10 million people and expect to get a single, rational, one-size-fits-all answer.

There is only one question and it requires a simple yes or no; are they here LEGALLY? When the answer is “no” there is nothing more to ask. Just deport them.

That some shouldn’t be allowed to stay is obvious.

I would assume you mean criminals, which include those who break our law by illegal entering the U.S.

So is the fact that others are worthier people than many natural born citizens.

The fact is, Greggie Goebbels, that no one who is willing to violate our laws, live here illegally, and generally displace Americans who are under educated in the work force are good people.

Now were capturing violators indiscriminately and locking them up indefinitely with no real plan how to deal with their growing numbers, at a cost to taxpayers of over $700 each per day.

We need to return all the alien children that we are taking care of. I have already posted the BILLIONS OF $$ that we spend every year on them alone. Send them back to the nations they come from and if any of those nations refuse to accept them, end all foreign aid to that nation. Do that and watch how illegal immigration drops precipitously.

Somebody is also making a bundle building a wall along a 1,954 border, when many illegal residents and most contraband arrives through normal ports of entry.

Here is the deal; if the person is here illegally, if it is their first time, they should be deported immediately and allowed to apply for entry the legal way. If they have been deported once before (not five times like the murderer of Kate) they should be denied entry permanently. Illegals are not U.S. citizens and are not entitled to be allowed to stay until they make it before an immigration judge two years down the road, if they even show up which most don’t. If they have reentered after deportation, they should be jailed, charged with a felony offense, have a trial and jailed to the maximum amount of the law.

Apparently this is somebody’s idea of a solution—possibly the private corporations that are getting paid to hold them.

You need to take that up with your Party as it is your Party that is encouraging illegal immigration. All those votes the Dems are counting on from illegals seem to be worth the lives of Americans.

Here’s the question again, Greggie Goebbels; how many illegals have you taken into your home and been financially responsible for? You think you have a right to answers from me, so buck up boy and answer my question or just go away. Your choice.

@Greg:

What you are in fact describing is your acceptance of crime as a political weapon.

Yet Trump—who has already been pronounced immune from prosecution—openly breaks laws to extend his immunity to include congressional oversight authority, and his supporters really don’t give a doodley damn…

Trump is not an illegal. I know it is inconvenient for you to stay on topic and your need to spew your liberal talking points, but you have long since shown that when you have no rational answer or debate, you resort back to “but, but……Trump.”

Me thinks it is you who should be deported. I hear Venezuela is nice this time of year.

@retire05, #63:

There is only one question and it requires a simple yes or no; are they here LEGALLY? When the answer is “no” there is nothing more to ask. Just deport them.

I guess you must have problems comprehending numbers like 10 million, and words like “logistics”. But that likely goes with the territory when someone has taken up full-times residence in fantasy land.

Here’s the question again, Greggie Goebbels; how many illegals have you taken into your home and been financially responsible for?

Most of them are self-supporting, paying their way using the proceeds of something called work, which is one of the things they come here seeking. Most likely a higher percentage of them work than do Trump’s supporters. In fact, some of them work for Trump’s hotels and resorts. Their Social Security taxes are probably helping to cover your Social Security checks. Some, in fact, are helping to back fill losses top the U.S. economy resulting from a rapidly aging U.S. workforce. They do many jobs U.S. employers couldn’t find domestic labor to perform.

@Greg:

I guess you must have problems comprehending numbers like 10 million, and words like “logistics”.

More like 20 million, Greggie Goebbels. But if every law enforcement agency was allowed to participate in turning illegals over to ICE unlike California which claims it is a sanctuary state, once the deportations started, it has a snowball effect and other illegals will self deport.

But that likely goes with the territory when someone has taken up full-times residence in fantasy land.

I don’t live in your Socialist fantasy world.

Most of them are self-supporting, paying their way using the proceeds of something called work, which is one of the things they come here seeking.

Yes, and taking jobs away from American workers. Glad you admit that. Glad to know that you support the disenfranchising of American workers.

Most likely a higher percentage of them work than do Trump’s supporters.

Your Trump Derangement Syndrome really needs some help from a mental health provider.

In fact, some of them work for Trump’s hotels and resorts.

And you know that how?

Their Social Security taxes are probably helping to cover your Social Security checks.

They (the illegals) don’t have Social Security numbers unless they have stolen one from an American citizen or legal immigrant.

They do many jobs U.S. employers couldn’t find domestic labor to perform.

After the raid on the Koch chicken plants, the company put on a job’s fair. In one day, over 150 people applied for those jobs that had been taken by illegals. One report states that a majority of those job applicants were black Americans. So go ahead and continue to peddle the “jobs Americans won’t do” lie that has been debunked time after time.

Bottom line, Greggie Goebbels, you support illegals but not Americans. You are a sick, despicable person.

@retire05, #66:

More like 20 million, Greggie Goebbels.

Nope. Twenty million was always hyperbole, and the number has significantly declined over the past decade. By 2017 the number had declined to an estimated 10.5 million.

Maybe Trump should announce the decline and take full credit for it, as he did with defeating ISIS and saving the economy. Maybe that was his motivation for wanting the question to be included in the 2020 census—as if undocumented aliens would dutifully report their illegal status in connection with their specific household addresses at a time when the Trump administration is threatening mass deportation. Does he think they’re stupid?

They (the illegals) don’t have Social Security numbers unless they have stolen one from an American citizen or legal immigrant.

From Marketplace, January 28, 2019 – Undocumented immigrants quietly pay billions into Social Security and receive no benefits

According to New American Economy, undocumented immigrants contributed $13 billion into the Social Security funds in 2016 and $3 billion to Medicare. Three years prior, the Chief Actuary of the Social Security Administration, Stephen Goss, wrote a report that estimated undocumented immigrants contributed $12 billion into Social Security.

Employers withhold and send in FICA taxes on employees even if they obtained their SSNs with phony documents. Such workers will likely never benefit from the taxes they pay, since applying for benefits requires the presentation of birth certificates and identity documents that must be confirmed to be authentic.

So go ahead and continue to peddle the “jobs Americans won’t do” lie that has been debunked time after time.

It hasn’t been debunked time after time. Ask vegetable and fruit growers how easy it is to to find domestic workers willing to do the work of migrants at rates they can pay and still stay in business.

@Greg:

Yet Trump

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Trump has neither supported sanctuary cities or open borders, yet these are the primary contributing factors to the rapes and murders at the hands of illegal immigrants. The left accepting and ignoring the crimes is the REAL crime and, again, Trump has no part in it. All Democrats, all the time.

Somebody is also making a bundle building a wall along a 1,954 border, when many illegal residents and most contraband arrives through normal ports of entry.

Not when the loopholes get closed. That is a recent development created by Democrats.

I guess you must have problems comprehending numbers like 10 million, and words like “logistics”

It’s more like 20 million, but who’s counting? Not Democrats, because they still oppose counting illegal immigrants on the census; it would reveal more liberal lies.

Most of them are self-supporting, paying their way using the proceeds of something called work, which is one of the things they come here seeking.

Yeah, that’s why it only costs the American taxpayer $200 billion a year to subsidize their existence here. Cut off that subsidy and the “logistical” problem is solved.

Their Social Security taxes are probably helping to cover your Social Security checks.

Are you accusing illegal immigrants of identity theft and fraud? Really?

Nope. Twenty million was always hyperbole, and the number has significantly declined over the past decade. By 2017 the number had declined to an estimated 10.5 million.

Maybe we should count them instead of using liberal estimates? Liberals tend to lie.

@Greg:

So you trust the Pew Hispanic Research to give honest answers about how many illegals are in the U.S.? Just because it changed its name doesn’t make it any more honest.

News flash you moron, the citizenship question, in one form or another, has been on the U.S. census since the 1800’s. It was Obama who took it off in 2010. Another major mistake made by your Messiah who will go down in history as one of the worst presidents we have ever had.

You are despicable, Greggie Goebbels. You would have fit right in with the rest of the despicable dictators. But then, you do subscribe to their mantras.

@Greg: #7 now. Another illegal immigrant, arrested for crimes, released to comply with liberal sanctuary policies, rapes.

Not your daughter, though. Nobody you know. Right?

Finally! Montgomery County decides to take action and DO something! They blame non-liberal media and Trump.

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/officials-in-sanctuary-county-lash-out-at-conservative-media-for-reporting-on-rash-of-illegal-alien-sex-crimes/