Former Democrat Congressional page Chuck Todd thinks he understands, on an objective, nonpartisan level, the disagreement at play in this fake impeachment: You see, it’s because Republicans just don’t “accept the premise that facts are facts.”
“If we were all accepting the rules of the road as they are, we are living in a moment where we have a part of one of our major political parties that is just not accepting the premise, is just not accepting facts that are facts, is just prioritizing loyalty to a person, even more so loyalty to a party, let alone loyalty to a country,” Todd opined on NBC.
WATCH: @chucktodd: "We are living in a moment where we have a part of one of our major political parties that is just not accepting the premise, is just not accepting facts that are facts." pic.twitter.com/onoTqugG7f
— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) November 13, 2019
NBC News, largely comprised of perverts and rapists and rape enablers, swooned at the sight of a horrid drag queen at the fake impeachment hearings because Empowering.
Pissi Myles, as he likes to call himself (please Lord, we hope that doesn’t mean what we think it means), apparently fancies himself a journalist with a valid interest in covering impeachment politics. It’s a nice reminder of just how much of a circus the Dems’ attempt at removing Trump is, with freaks like Pissi Myles being the enthusiastic rent-a-clowns.
NBCNews.com reported on the attendance of “the award-winning drag performer,” composing a headline that would have made the founding fathers seriously contemplate abandoning their American experiment. Read it and weep: “Drag Queen Sashays into Trump Impeachment Hearing.”
Dan Bongino’s making all kinds of political GAINZZZ here: “Shut this [blank] down. Shut it down now. You want to play hardball? Let’s play hardball.”
Jim Jordon’s questions were particularly good: Jordan got Taylor — the Democrat coup-plotters’ star witness! — to admit that there was no quid pro and no talk of “linkage:” “We know that from your deposition in those 55 days that aid is delayed, you met with President Zelensky three times,” Jordan started. “The first one was July 26, the day after the famous call (now) between President Trump and President Zelensky. President Zelensky meets with you, Ambassador [to the U.N. Kurt] Volker, and Ambassador [to the E.U. Gordon] Sondland. And again according to your deposition, your testimony, there was no linkage of security assistance dollars to investigating Burisma or the Bidens.”
Taylor nodded throughout the congressman’s summary of his testimony.
Jordan continued: “The second meeting is August 27. President Zelensky meets with you, Ambassador [John] Bolton and others, and again there’s no linkage of dollars — security assistance dollars — to an investigation of the Bidens. Then of course the third meeting is September 5, President Zelensky meets with you and Senators [Ron] Johnson and [Chris] Murphy and once again there was no linkage of security assistance dollars to an investigation of Burisma and the Bidens.”
“Three meetings with the president of Ukraine and no linkage,” the congressman summarized. “That’s accurate?”
“Mr. Jordan, it’s certainly accurate on the first two. To my knowledge, Ukrainians were not aware of the hold on assistance until the 29th of August,” Taylor said. “The third meeting that you mentioned with the senators… there was discussion of the security assistance… but there was not discussion of linkage.”
An important point: Trump actually provided the “lethal aid” that Obama refused to provide.
And no one impeached Obama — even though Obama himself was pressuring Ukraine to do what Obama wanted them to do.
Which was to not prosecute Hunter Biden’s company.
Well, who WOULDN’T want to get the drag queen perspective on the impeachment? I mean, after all, Schiff is RUNNING the thing. Probably his date.
The Stalinists strike out again. And to make matters worst for these POS, Barr stated the IG report’s release is now “imminent”.
@another vet: So Barr actually found bigfoot scat on the trail? Does he have a hair sample,a cast of a footprint?
It will real news when it is actually released.
Only new thing is in aide eavesdropping heard trump through a phone.
@kitt:
People seem to be finding things of late.
@another vet: Sure we know they have the goods where are the grand juries, indictments. This is why the activists in the State Dept have their thongs in a knot this was not suppose to be investigated then along comes Rudy.
From JS :The diplomat, as I recall, suggested that Yovanovitch had just caused a commotion in Ukraine a few weeks before that country’s presidential election by calling for the firing of one of the prosecutors aligned with the incumbent president.
I remember the diplomat joking something to the effect of, “we always say that the Geneva Convention is optional for our Kiev staff.”
The Geneva Convention is the UN-backed pact enacted during the Cold War that governs the conduct of foreign diplomats in host countries and protects them against retribution. But it strictly mandates that foreign diplomats “have a duty not to interfere in the internal affairs of that State” that hosts them.
The Dems are going to lose the House over this.
Former Nixon lawyer John Dean made the statement that the first day of testimony was “thorough and damning”, and that House Democrats “already have more than they had against Richard Nixon to impeach him”.
Of course, it’s understood that the rabid right would go into spin mode regardless of anything. If Trump was to eat a live baby at 1 of his klan rallies and on live TV, we’d be hearing this same nonsense and denial from such rabid sites.
I don’t necessarily think the rabid and unhinged right is being knowingly dishonest but rather the cult has allowed themselves to fall for the slow drip indoctrination of Trump, Fox News, and Facebook memes which has instructed them to blindly follow rule # 2 of Propaganda 101 which states: “accuse your opponent of which you are guilty of”.
@Ronald J. Ward: You are right now place that mountain of evidence in front of the Senate and a supreme court justice…DO IT!
Call Pelosi tell her to defecate or get off the marijuana.
@kitt:
The “mountain of evidence” is irrelevant. It makes no difference.
Trump could shoot someone dead in the street, toss hand grenades into maternity wards, and have random people over 80 years of age stoned to death for being over the age of 80 and he could do this in front of live cameras while announcing it to the world and it would make no difference. You and your ilk would still defend him.
Do you deny this?
@Ronald J. Ward: @Ronald J. Ward:
Put that in front of the Senate and a Supreme Court Justice!
What we little people think isnt relevant.
My sticker says I VOTED, The Democrat representatives sticker says I DONT CARE.
hide the whistle blower, cause while under oath he is going to have to answer what he told Schiffs aides and when. How a CIA operative obtained classified information and the rules of what you do with that info.
But you and your ilk DGAF you have “hearsay” and you want to try the POTUS over that.
DO IT PLACE THE CALL DEMAND THEY SEND IT TO THE SENATE.
Pelosi says there is a coverup. Thats why he provided 1.5 million documents for the Mueller investigation, and gave a transcript for the call being investigated. He sucks at this cover-up business. He is sure to be removed from office.
@Ronald J. Ward:
The only thing the Democrats don’t have (besides ethics) is a crime. They’ve got lots of people TALKING about how they HEARD someone talking about hearing about a crime, but no crime. Dang it.
Wow. Did you write that out loud? A true statement never passed through the mind of a liberal. To these Democrats, evidence certainly does not make a difference. All that matters is they lost in 2016, Trump is doing a great job, Trump is not providing them any avenue to defeat him and they have a group of the most incompetent, pandering, out-of-touch idiots to select a candidate from that all they can see is “4 MORE YEARS”. Wow, again. How did truth get into you?
@kitt:
The Democrat sticker says, “So? We had 10 illegal immigrants and 5 corpses voting that wiped your vote out.”
@kitt:
My point that you’re obfuscating is that the glazed over Trump cult will never accept or be satisfied with any evidence, much less court rulings. It doesn’t matter what he does or how hideous and it doesn’t matter how much proof or evidence exist. You, “little people” or not, will still cry being victimized by not only your opponents but by your side and even the courts.
Do you not agree?
@Ronald J. Ward:
So, don’t even put forth the pretext of actually having a crime or evidence of a crime? Yeah, we get it. It just doesn’t fly, that’s all.
You can whine and cry all day and night that no one would turn on Trump if he committed a crime. Well, aside from your long history of being totally wrong about everything, I guess we won’t know until he actually commits a crime, will we? Just because we, unlike idiots, won’t turn on him when nothing but LIES are provided does not even come close to proving your idiotic point.
@Ronald J. Ward:
You really need to come up with something besides your twisted fantasies.
I heard from Deplorable that he knows a guy whos sister heard you have a friend, pretty solid. Call them and you both can call Pelosi.
@kitt:
Well, no, there’s nothing I need to do one way or the other, particularly at your whim.
My hypothetical isn’t based on fantasy but rather how the cult of Trump has reacted thus far. There is really no logical reason to deduce you’d react differently to anything he does going forward. It doesn’t matter to the cult of Trump what he does or what evidence is presented or in the event of any court convictions.
You seem to have a hard time with saying you agree or disagree with that reality.
@Ronald J. Ward:
reality
[rēˈalədē]
NOUN
the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Again, how exactly do you draw that conclusion? There has been no crime of Trump’s for anyone to ignore. What you have is your fantasy based on ignorance.
@Deplorable Me: Its wonderful living in our alternate reality, great economy, a President that does his best to keep campaign promises. The people Trump orders killed are actually terrorists. The highest absolute average gas price came in July 2008, at $4.12 we are now paying a tiny bit better than 1/2 of that. The AHCA mandate is dead this year, if I like my tax refund I can keep it.
I see trees of green Red roses, too I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself, “what a wonderful world”
I see skies of blue, And clouds of white
The bright blessed day the dark sacred night
And I think to myself, “what a wonderful world”
@Ronald J. Ward: And you are in the Cult of Democrat. You’ll believe anything they say and never question it.
See how that works?
I, and other people, support Trump because his ideas are better: this is demonstrated in both his numerous accomplishments (shared by the whole country) and his ability to not be illegally taken out by corrupt Dems.
The Dems won everything in the previous cycle with Obama…but their ideas and principals ultimately were shown to be wrong.
This is why your party is imploding, and the cheap tactic of “Trump cultist” is hilarious to hear…coming from the cult of the Left.
Your bias allows you to see evidence that isn’t there…mainly because your cult leaders on the Left tell you what to think. Your desperate for Trump’s downfall, because he challenges the false narratives and ideas you’ve swallowed.
It won’t matter in the end. Blather on about the “cult”, because that what a loser sounds like.
Trump will win the popular vote in 2020. Your party will not.
@Ronald J. Ward: On that same vein, I bet if Hillary lied before Congress about keeping sensitive, classified State Department documents on an unsecured, secret, private email server, Democrats would STILL support her.
I bet if Hillary left a consulate undefended in spite of security threats on the anniversary of 9/11 resulting in its sacking and the death of 4 Americans, Democrats would STILL support her.
I bet if Obama defended a program that ran guns to Mexican cartels, resulting in at least two Americans and hundreds of Mexicans being killed, Democrats would STILL support him.
I bet if Obama ran an IRS scheme targeting conservative groups and harassing them, Democrats would STILL support him.
I bet if Obama told the BIGGEST LIE IN HISTORY, telling Americans they could keep their doctor and insurance, if they liked them, Democrats would STILL support him.
I bet if Biden bragged on video that he extorted Ukraine with a billion dollars in US aid and force them to fire a prosecutor that was looking into corruption at a company his son was riding the gravy train on, Democrats would STILL support him.
Need I go on, AJ?
@Nathan Blue:
Actually, no.
I don’t come here on a regular basis to protect and defend a given political party or agenda whereas you and your comrades do.
Also, the degree of defending has been taken an entirely new level under the Trump admin. Granted, partisanship has always existed but nowhere in my lifetime have I seen the level of divisiveness and mendacity and corruption as I’ve seen with the party of Trump. Even in the day when Newt Gingrich was chastising Bill Clinton of the evils of lying about infidelity (while he himself was engaged in adultery) there were lines people simply did not cross to kowtow to their party. This is something the cult of Trump has put aside. It simply doesn’t matter what level of indecency or corruption the man goes to as folk like you will be here to protect him. Nothing.
If this isn’t true, why can you nor your comrades admit that you’d turn your back on Trump if he murdered babies? I know that I’d be ready to see a Democratic President thrown in jail for such.
@Ronald J. Ward: You may have no party affiliation but murdering babies is a democrat push, murdering elderly a democrat push. Sustainability is another word for rationing to only those the government deems worthy, ie young healthy tax slaves.
In England anyone over 59 cannot receive heart repairs or stents or bypass, pay taxes for many years but there isnt enough money in the system for you. (medicare for all except you if you live to 59)
Leave infants that survive abortions to die or euthanize them.
You would need to actually have examples of all of the other accusations you so like to chuck mindlessly about.
Not everything is all about Trump some things need to be defended, like the ability to face our accuser in a court of law, privacy of our papers and person. The right to gather in public peacefully without being attacked by masked fascists hell bent on taking our freedom of speech.
I dont expect you will comprehend any of this. Push push push
@Ronald J. Ward:
Yes you do. You’re angry, and a coward.
Your obsessive, irrational parroting of the indoctrination meme “Trump supporters are rabid and will justify anything he does” is laughable. It’s also projection.
Again, you come here and use nameless people as your personal punching bags, doing nothing but hurtling the same insults. The above divisiveness is much, much more to be attributed to cowards like you than anyone else.
You support the Democrats, and you are a Leftist. You are fascist in your angry attacks of people you know nothing about. You’re arguments are predigested and fed to you via the news, and not thoughts of your own.
Trump confuses and angers you, because his ideas and principals are working. Obama’s didn’t. Pelosi’s don’t, and your party’s candidates are a joke. The Dem party is truly in a crisis of character.
The level of your brainwashing is also commensurate with what non -liberals are concerned about. The Democrats were caught, actually caught, in real corruption. Trump? Not so much. That’s just your fantasy, fed from your hate-supplier because it’s easier that growing up and finding real purpose, and real identity.
That’s absurd. You and your party want to impeach Trump because you don’t understand why he’s winning, and it’s eating crow for all the Leftists. It’s a logical fallacy to suggest “murdering babies” as a thought experiment.
You and your party don’t even understand the level of injustice and lack of due process you’ve stooped to, so perhaps you need to mull that over before letting the devil continue to whisper that asinine, and completely f*cking stupid, argument you regurgitate every time you show up.
Trump’s ideas, and the values and policies he is serving, are superior to the Democrats ideas, values, and policies.
Period.
@Ronald J. Ward:
I would turn my back on Trump if he murdered babies. Question is, why don’t you turn your back on the PARTY that supports and promotes the murder of babies?
Now, how about addressing why the list of things YOU’VE excused? See #20. Those are but a few of the sickening things prominent Democrats have done which you condone and support.
@Deplorable Me: *sighs* He’s just here for his usually hate-filled drive-by…never actually engages after we’ve destroyed his argument, and his motivations.
He should be in therapy, instead.
@Nathan Blue: When the idiot AJ (ajay, aka @Ronald J. Ward: ) first showed his true warped mentality when he postulated what would appear to intelligent people a rhetorical question of would we support Hitler or Stalin in an election. When no one answered (again, such an absurd question, like the “baby killer” question) he thumped his sunken chest and pointed out how no one would dare answer his question. So, I played his childish game (as I did here) and clearly answered that no, of course not, I would not vote for Hitler or Stalin. Later, he claimed I said I WOULD support them over a Democrat. Basically, he is a cowardly, chickenshit liar, but being a liberal, that is a badge of honor for them.
So, I played his little immature game here, to shut him up. No doubt at a later date, in a day or two (typical liberal attention span) he will recount how I stated even if Trump murdered babies, I would unconditionally support him. So, remember this.
And, yes, when provided no path but to answer a question, he scurries away like the roach he is.
@Nathan Blue:
The fact that you continue to refuse disavowing anything Trump would do only leaves open the reality that you wouldn’t. All of your other claptrap word salad is meaningless.
@kitt:
I’m not sure what you’re referring to about murdering the elderly (I’m thinking it’s Rs that want to take their medicare and social security and other health care options, even cheering when Ron Paul said to let them go home and die) but I’m assuming you’re alluding to abortions pertaining to babies.
Now aside of the fact that Roe v Wade was a product of republicans (the year was 1973, it was pushed by R President Nixon, and ruled by the predominantly conservative Warren Burger Court by 7-2 with 5 conservative appointed judges voting for it and 2 liberal appointed justices voting against it), which party has done what to reduce abortions? The Adoption and Safe Families Act making it easier to adopt was passed by Democrats. FMLA preventing employers from firing women because of maternity leave was passed by Democrats..The Born-Alive Infants Protection Act guarantying infants born at any stage of development full legal rights and extended legal protections was passed by Democrats. The 2008 Democratic platform was “reducing the need for abortion by reducing the need for women seeking abortions” but that was shut down by a defiant Republican party hell bent on obstructing anything Obama presented.
It’s worth reminding that the Republican party just recently voted unanimously against the Violence Against Women Act. They unanimously allowed Trump’s pro-rape judge a lifetime seat. They have diligently weakened the Affordable Care Act which has lowered abortion in every single state that accepted it and expanded Medicaid. In Colorado, abortions have dropped by the 40% range in the past 5 years after the state implemented a free contraceptive program yet Republicans have adamantly targeted free or reduced pricing for contraceptives for women.
Rs can play the game of high morals yet they proudly kowtow to a president that surrounds himself with pedophiles such as Epstein, Casablancas, Arlf, Nader, Cohn, campaigned for pedophile Roy Moore for U.S. Senate, is even an admitted groper himself, appointed a pro-rape judge(Neomi Rao) for a lifetime seat, has over 24 women accusing him of sexual misconduct acts, generally defends male rapist while blaming victims, loves to coddle with and protect brutal murderous dictators (I’m just glad Obama took bin Laden out before Trump had a chance to buddy up with him), suggest there are good Nazis, and of course, promoting violence of his opposition. Rs are even proud to have the likes of Gym Jordon in their corner.
Your hypocrisy, and protecting that hypocrisy, knows no bounds.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Ah yes..there’s the projection…and intellectualization. You confirm all I’ve said, once again.
And it’s a logical fallacy you continue to spout, little dog. What exactly am supposed to disavow? Your Party’s coup attempt? You’re not positing anything to anyone, except just telling us to “shut up.”
You support and are part of a culture that promotes violence, media propaganda, and activism instead of education. The result is angry people who routinely attack “the other” with words, or worse, fists. That is the ideology you are part.
No, I won’t concede to your false umbrage about Trump’s ways.
Every poster here has conceded, easily, that the would never accept Trump breaking the law. That’s the what you contest, because then YOU and your party get to decide he “broke” the law without providing actual evidence and discipline in following due process.
You and your party have no credibility in deciding justice for Trump outside of something very clear and blatant.
I heard the Clinton’s killed Epstein, but I can’t prove it. Are you protesting the Dem party and asking for them to go to jail?
No.
The fact that you continue to refuse disavowing anything the Democrats would do only leaves open the reality that you wouldn’t.
You are, in truth, the stupidest poster I’ve ever read here…all hiding under the “word-salad” of an insecure dope. It’s too easy to refute, dismiss, and counter the…uh…arguments (more like Freudian ramblings) you vomit like a cat with a hairball.
@Nathan Blue:
You sound angry. Why are Trump enablers always so angry?
Is it because they/you know that no matter what evil or immoral or hideous acts Trump engages in, they/you are committed to abet?
If I were a person of that caliber, a person who has basically sold their soul to hatred and disdain and has obviously become numb to it, I suppose I’d be angry like you.
@Nathan Blue:
See? Can I call em or what?